avoiding injuries 1,684 Posted 21 hours ago 3 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said: It's as if MAGAs haven't even looked at the video. It's as if they think a crazy woman bent on cop killing was driving her 10,000-pound SUV at 100 mph straight at the agent, and he had no choice but to kill or be killed. Give me a fukking break. Grandpa’s up 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,674 Posted 21 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Strike said: I heard he was as seasoned, well trained agent, but you keep with your DNC talking point narratives. You heard from where? You know his name? How many years experience? Seems like you're the one repeating talking points. I'm dealing with facts, that ICE agents get about 1/3 of the training as real cops. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,535 Posted 21 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: To get away from the masked man trying to open her car door. Why would she turn the wheels away from the man standing in front of her if she was trying to hit him? Why was she trying to get away from the ice agent when she was trying to block him? If she really wanted to get away from him, she wouldn't have tried to block his path. Therefore the only logical conclusion is that she was planning a confrontation, then when presented with the opportunity to take out an agent, she most likely took it. Should have thought of her kids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,787 Posted 21 hours ago 12 minutes ago, MDC said: I’m probably splitting hairs here, but I think it’s more accurate to say he acted in what he thought was self defense. Legally it’s the same thing. He won’t face any charges and that’s probably the right call. Don’t you think it’s a little odd that the President and DHS Secretary are calling this woman a domestic terrorist and insisting she was trying to run the agent down? Obviously that’s false. Goo luck with that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,684 Posted 21 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Strike said: Nah, he should have hung on to the bottom of the SUV and slowly worked his way to the back of the SUV while being dragged along the ground, climbed up the rear door, busted the window out and climbed in from the back. He could have drained the oil while he was down there and gave her a real issue to deal with down the road. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,674 Posted 21 hours ago 1 minute ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Why was she trying to get away from the ice agent when she was trying to block him? If she really wanted to get away from him, she wouldn't have tried to block his path. Therefore the only logical conclusion is that she was planning a confrontation, then when presented with the opportunity to take out an agent, she most likely took it. Should have thought of her kids. She wasn't trying to block them she waved them to go by, but they got out of the car and tried to grab her, so she fled, or tried to until getting 3 bullets in the head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,109 Posted 21 hours ago Just now, Frozenbeernuts said: Should have thought of her kids. Maybe she was thinking of her kids. There's a go fund me for her family and I have no doubt it will be a huge success. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,966 Posted 21 hours ago 1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said: Of course you liked the things that agreed with your point of view and ignored the things that didn't. You also ignored the first order to move the car. But that's because it doesn't match up with what you want it to be. I did acknowledge the first order. I made a similar post to yours in the other thread on this topic yestersy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 2,173 Posted 21 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Horseman said: The guy responsible for reporting the news last night "accidentally" said she was murdered. Wonder here he got that from. TDS Ron has literally called him a murderer multiple times today. No trial, no evidence presented. Crazy guy is melting down in front of our eyes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,535 Posted 21 hours ago Just now, Ron_Artest said: She wasn't trying to block them she waved them to go by, but they got out of the car and tried to grab her, so she fled, or tried to until getting 3 bullets in the head. Waved them to go by by parking her car perpendicular in the middle of the street? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,208 Posted 21 hours ago 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Goo luck with that @Strike and I were in rare agreement so I thought I’d play it forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,684 Posted 21 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Why was she trying to get away from the ice agent when she was trying to block him? Evidently, she really wanted to play in the snow pile of parked cars on the other side of the street. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,787 Posted 21 hours ago 5 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said: He could have drained the oil while he was down there and gave her a real issue to deal with down the road. After seeing the wiper fluid reservoir empty. This cop would have unloaded his clip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,674 Posted 21 hours ago 5 minutes ago, supermike80 said: TDS Ron has literally called him a murderer multiple times today. No trial, no evidence presented. Crazy guy is melting down in front of our eyes RDS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,674 Posted 21 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Waved them to go by by parking her car perpendicular in the middle of the street? Yes, to follow the other car that just went by Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,684 Posted 21 hours ago 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: After seeing the wiper fluid reservoir empty. This cop would have unloaded his clip. Rightfully so as she was accelerating at him. Wipers were well past 60,000 miles. That may have contributed in the attempted vehicular manslaughter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,957 Posted 21 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Strike said: Nah, he should have hung on to the bottom of the SUV and slowly worked his way to the back of the SUV while being dragged along the ground, climbed up the rear door, busted the window out and climbed in from the back. Lol Indiana Jones style…nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grace Under Pressure 254 Posted 21 hours ago Arrest and trial. Jury decides. This is America still, right? Or is it now "dictator MAGA, support Trump at all costs" nation? I already know the answer from most of the dopey posts here. This is why MAGA is dangerous, have been saying it for years. You MAGAs fkd this country up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,684 Posted 21 hours ago Just now, Grace Under Pressure said: Arrest and trial. Jury decides. This is America still, right? Or is it now "dictator MAGA, support Trump at all costs" nation? I already know the answer from most of the dopey posts here. This is why MAGA is dangerous, have been saying it for years. You MAGAs fkd this country up. This would never even make it to a grand jury 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,596 Posted 21 hours ago democrats continue to show they are retards why is a woman crossing state lines, remember when that was a thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,957 Posted 21 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: She wasn't trying to block them she waved them to go by, but they got out of the car and tried to grab her, so she fled, or tried to until getting 3 bullets in the head. This is barely factual. Been several reports that she was one of the leaders of this caravan that I was following them around, causing problems, blocking traffic. Yes at some point, you’re going to get arrested…She chose to break more laws and ran and paid for it. Can’t have your leaders spew this rhetoric,, go to active scenes and then throw your hands up and go poor me!! When something bad finally happened. I mean, there was a reason of happening in those blue states and it’s because you’re so brainwashed to think you were the good guys a harboring criminals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,535 Posted 21 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Yes, to follow the other car that just went by Oh so there was a car that decided to innocently pass through, the ice agents saw that, but then decided instead of letting this woman get out of our way, let's yank her out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,787 Posted 21 hours ago 3 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said: Rightfully so as she was accelerating at him. Wipers were well past 60,000 miles. That may have contributed in the attempted vehicular manslaughter. This woman should not have placed herself in this situation. I listen to cops, hysterical ones, quiet ones, etc. From the info we have though this wasn’t like an active bank robbery, they weren’t even arresting people at the time or whatever it is ICE does. They got stuck in the snow (good grief) and this lady was there maybe harassing them? I’d prefer a cop in this situation to not get to a scenario where he is shooting person in the face. That was very poor judgement on his part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,596 Posted 21 hours ago 3 minutes ago, thegeneral said: This woman should not have placed herself in this situation. I listen to cops, hysterical ones, quiet ones, etc. From the info we have though this wasn’t like an active bank robbery, they weren’t even arresting people at the time or whatever it is ICE does. They got stuck in the snow (good grief) and this lady was there maybe harassing them? I’d prefer a cop in this situation to not get to a scenario where he is shooting person in the face. That was very poor judgement on his part. dont cross state lines and commit felonies and you dont get shot its pretty simple Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,501 Posted 20 hours ago That other agent didn’t have the legal authority to try and open her door either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 2,082 Posted 20 hours ago Quote Sitting with Times journalists just hours after the incident, Trump repeated the position he’d stated online that Good had tried to “run over” the ICE agent who shot her. “I want to see nobody get shot,” the president said. “I want to see nobody screaming and trying to run over policemen either. That was a vicious situation that took place.” He added that Good “behaved horribly. And then she ran him over. She didn’t try to run him over. She ran him over.” When the reporters argued in return that this was not clear from the video recorded at the scene, Trump replied: “I’ll play the tape for you right now.” He ordered aide Natalie Harpe to run the video. As the slow-motion footage played on a laptop beside the Resolute Desk, the reporters noted, again, that the video did not clearly show an officer being run over. “Well… I – the way I look at it…” he said while watching. At the end of the clip, Trump said: “It’s a terrible scene. I think it’s horrible to watch. No, I hate to see it.” Pressed on what he’d just seen, the reporters said that Trump pivoted to attack the immigration policies of his predecessors. Even Trump backed off the initial comments. MAGA mooks are quickly trying to get their new marching orders. Give them about 30 minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 859 Posted 20 hours ago 24 minutes ago, squistion said: From what I've read, ICE has been conducting some sort of ongoing operation in that neighborhood for six weeks, according to statements from people who live there. Thank you. So basically a sweep, just looking for anyone who looks “suspiciously” illegal alien? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,787 Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: dont cross state lines and commit felonies and you dont get shot its pretty simple I thought she lived in Minneapolis now. In any case she put herself in a situation to get shot. Looking at this situation that it escalated to that is pretty unbelievable. Poor cop work. How did you feel about Ashley Babbitt getting shot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,596 Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: I thought she lived in Minneapolis now. In any case she put herself in a situation to get shot. Looking at this situation that it escalated to that is pretty unbelievable. Poor cop work. How did you feel about Ashley Babbitt getting shot? I believe in darwinism I am against EVERY SINGLE PROTEST stupid people do stupid things, and I truly don't care what happens to them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,109 Posted 20 hours ago 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I thought she lived in Minneapolis now. In any case she put herself in a situation to get shot. Looking at this situation that it escalated to that is pretty unbelievable. Poor cop work. How did you feel about Ashley Babbitt getting shot? One, it's Ashli. Try to show some respect. Two, Ashli Babbitt didn't have a 5000 pound SUV to use as a weapon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,787 Posted 20 hours ago Where is the video before what we have already seen - the car sideways in the road, she’s waiving cars through, and then the cop runs up to her door. Is that anywhere? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,512 Posted 20 hours ago 1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: There will be a trial on this and a jury will decide. An Ice - That’s (1) Immigration & (2) Customs Enforcement - agent nowhere near any border with zero reasonable suspicion of any crime being perpetrated was trying to stop an American white woman who is a mother of 3 children, who had just waved 2 other LE vehicles ahead of her, from following that line of cars as she slowly pulled away, wheels turned from his position. Is there additional video anywhere showing what was happening leading up to it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 859 Posted 20 hours ago 1 hour ago, squistion said: I haven't seen any riots yet or is that coming today? The governor & mayor have done a strong job on calling on MSP pride to represent their city well. It seems to be working. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,674 Posted 20 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Oh so there was a car that decided to innocently pass through, the ice agents saw that, but then decided instead of letting this woman get out of our way, let's yank her out? Yes, there is a video of it. Seriously time for you to stop. You're an embarassment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 859 Posted 20 hours ago Just now, TimHauck said: Is there additional video anywhere showing what was happening leading up to it? I really don’t know, it seems like this point is glossed over by the news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,787 Posted 20 hours ago Just now, Strike said: One, it's Ashli. Try to show some respect. Two, Ashli Babbitt didn't have a 5000 pound SUV to use as a weapon. She was part of a riot where cops were beaten, complete chaos, she was crawling through a window ahead of a mob that was just broken out after minutes of being screamed at to leave the building she was illegally in. That was murder but this lady in Minn was a clean shooting and good cop work Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,674 Posted 20 hours ago 3 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Where is the video before what we have already seen - the car sideways in the road, she’s waiving cars through, and then the cop runs up to her door. Is that anywhere? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,787 Posted 20 hours ago 4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I believe in darwinism I am against EVERY SINGLE PROTEST stupid people do stupid things, and I truly don't care what happens to them I agree with this. This ICE shet isn’t being done well, these cops are being placed in bad positions, I don’t see how they could all be properly trained as quickly as this has been ramped up. But you shouldn’t be placing yourself in this situation. We don’t have, or I haven’t seen, what led up to this either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,816 Posted 20 hours ago 10 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I thought she lived in Minneapolis now. In any case she put herself in a situation to get shot. Looking at this situation that it escalated to that is pretty unbelievable. Poor cop work. How did you feel about Ashley Babbitt getting shot? That whatabout didn't work yesterday. 18 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: Ashley didn't try to murder someone. Dumb comp! Maybe try again tomorrow? Third times the charm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,355 Posted 20 hours ago 28 minutes ago, Grace Under Pressure said: Arrest and trial. Jury decides. This is America still, right? Or is it now "dictator MAGA, support Trump at all costs" nation? I already know the answer from most of the dopey posts here. This is why MAGA is dangerous, have been saying it for years. You MAGAs fkd this country up. You already wrapped up your investigation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites