Gurely 2017

[snatchit 108]

Could he be the steal of the draft ? Bounce back ?

[cmh6476 752]

Surely

[enak 1]

Good players on bad offenses are DnD for me

[IGotWorms 3,315]

Did you miss the thread about Fisher's contract extension?

[Flgatorguy87 160]

Could be, but I think he's likely a volume RB2 next year

[rsmnutt 8]

Fisher received a contract extension so the Rams are in for more of the same = DND

[Showboat 145]

Fisher has had productive RBs before - remember when Zac Stacy was a hot commodity? (And wasn't he with the Titans when LenDale White & Chris Johnson were running wild?)

 

I attribute Gurley's struggles mostly to QB play. If Goff can start forcing defenses to at least respect the potential for a passing game, Gurley will be fine. If not, expect more of the same.

[Oriole8159 86]

he could be next year's version of Melvin Gordon, so surely worth keeping an eye on going into your draft.

[weepaws 2,460]

I'm sure he's going to be in the top twelve.

 

I'm in all ppr leagues so he's no first rounder that's for sure.

[Oriole8159 86]

I'm sure he's going to be in the top twelve.

 

I'm in all ppr leagues so he's no first rounder that's for sure.

 

well that's too rich for me then

[weepaws 2,460]

What do you think ? Do you think he will be ranked in the top twelve?

 

Update.

 

I'm talking about Rb rankings.

 

I think he will make the top twelve for Rbs.

 

I'm not buying especially in a ppr league.

 

But I think the market will still place him in the top twelve in Rb only rankings.

[bandrus1 413]

He has to be draft3d at like rb10ish on volume alone

[Kent 228]

DND. Guy in my money league who drafted him missed the playoffs. Gurley was a killer.

[tanatastic 2,061]

Yuck no way, DND for me. I'm sure he will be a value for someone else. Zack Stacy part 2.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Fisher has had productive RBs before - remember when Zac Stacy was a hot commodity? (And wasn't he with the Titans when LenDale White & Chris Johnson were running wild?)

 

I attribute Gurley's struggles mostly to QB play. If Goff can start forcing defenses to at least respect the potential for a passing game, Gurley will be fine. If not, expect more of the same.

Who's fault is it for the offense being so horrid? You are going to give Fischer a pass on the Rams offense being horrid every year he is the coach?

[Kent 228]

Fisher has had productive RBs before - remember when Zac Stacy was a hot commodity? (And wasn't he with the Titans when LenDale White & Chris Johnson were running wild?)

 

I attribute Gurley's struggles mostly to QB play. If Goff can start forcing defenses to at least respect the potential for a passing game, Gurley will be fine. If not, expect more of the same.

The QB play last year was good when Gurley was a star? Does not compute.

[BobSanders_33 127]

He has to be draft3d at like rb10ish on volume alone

Except that volume has not been an issue and he is around rb 30 in scoring this year. You have the big 3 I'm Zeke, DJ and Bell. Then if volume is your thing a volume back on a better offense like Gordon, McCoy, Murray. Guys like Blount and Rawls might get a look fist. Fournette and Chubb in the right spot will be considered. Jay Ajai could be a hot name although he has cooled lately. But wait there's more! Freeman, Howard, Hyde and even Miller.

 

I don't say DND but I can't take a back tied to Fischer and that offense unless it is middle 3rd or later. Someone else will take that risk.

[FeelingMN 273]

Won't count his first game as a pro, but in the other 24 games in his career he's had 4ypc or less in 17 times. His bad play actually started middle of last year. Not all the blame is his coaching staff/teammates. Gurley deserves some too, and his first four games where he smoked the competition are looking like the outliers.

 

DND for me in 2017. Need to see him actually produce like someone other than Trent Richardson before I invest a top 25-30 pick in him.

[delchay 6]

Did you miss the thread about Fisher's contract extension?

This means more of the same next year. Good defense, lousy offensive line and crappy receivers. I don't touch Gurley and it's not his fault.

[Law 220]

Someone else will think more of him next year than will I so it's unlikely he's on any of my teams.

 

That said, I was NOT high on him this year, but picking 7th he appeared to be good value. It was an illusion.

He's been an anchor to my worst team in 14 years.

[snatchit 108]

I got creamed this year... Had Gurely as a keeper another guy threw all in and had the 1st pick. He wanted to trade the 1st pick ( Elliott ) for Gurely. I turned him down. He is in 1st place and I have 6 wins. Makes me sick. Gurely is catching passes as of late, so I am not worried about the ppr deal. I had Gurely and Dez as my keepers ( 12 team ppr ) I know there are a lot of Dez haters, but I had total faith in keeping him this year. His best year is when they had a great running game. Anyways I am going to be looking at keeping Dez and Gurely again next year. If they both stay healthy and can see at least low end number #1's.

[snatchit 108]

I got creamed this year... Had Gurely as a keeper another guy threw all in and had the 1st pick. He wanted to trade the 1st pick ( Elliott ) for Gurely. I turned him down. He is in 1st place and I have 6 wins. Makes me sick. Gurely is catching passes as of late, so I am not worried about the ppr deal. I had Gurely and Dez as my keepers ( 12 team ppr ) I know there are a lot of Dez haters, but I had total faith in keeping him this year. His best year is when they had a great running game. Anyways I am going to be looking at keeping Dez and Gurely again next year. If they both stay healthy and can see at least low end number #1's.

I dont know, maybe he really isnt that good.... he did tail off at the end of last year. I dont think I would have the ballls to throw him back in. If he keeps suckking the next 4...maybe I should. I wouldnt be surprised if NYG gets some Oline help, and Paul Perkins learns how to block... he could produce more.... there are a few guys like that. I am just so frustrated, this is my 20 plus year, big money league. I am used to being at the top or close to it. Crazy year

[TimHauck 1,800]

With the current state of RB's I don't think you can really make anyone a DND

[FeelingMN 273]

With the current state of RB's I don't think you can really make anyone a DND

He's going to be a second....early third round pick next year. Probably something like RB10-12. An every week starter. He's had almost twice as many games with 50 yards or less than 100 yard rushing games in his career (9 to 5). That's nearly 40% of his career with fewer than 50 yards rushing. He's had like one or two runs of 20 yards this year. No 40 yard runs this year. Those stats are horrible.

 

If the Rams land a good OC and retool their OL, maybe I'd rethink it. But as it is now....no way.

[Showboat 145]

The QB play last year was good when Gurley was a star? Does not compute.

Fair enough, but I think that defenses had a little more respect for Foles last season (and maybe that contributed to his lackluster performances and opened things up just a little bit for Gurley) than Keenum/Goff this season.

[Showboat 145]

Who's fault is it for the offense being so horrid? You are going to give Fischer a pass on the Rams offense being horrid every year he is the coach?

It's not about giving Fisher a pass (although the Rams apparently have). The point is, there have been plenty of decent fantasy performers (especially RBs) from teams that were coached by Fisher. I mentioned a few - going a little further back there is also Eddie George.

[IGotWorms 3,315]

It's not about giving Fisher a pass (although the Rams apparently have). The point is, there have been plenty of decent fantasy performers (especially RBs) from teams that were coached by Fisher. I mentioned a few - going a little further back there is also Eddie George.

Jim Brown ain't walking through that door

[MissOlivia 0]

I won't touch him, I finally had to send him to the bench a month ago, couldn't get any decent trade offers either.

[Oriole8159 86]

Guys, there's always a point where these types of guys become too good to pass up and are worth the pick.

Just look at Demarco Murray this year. I got him in the 6th rd this year, and I still was very "meh" about the pick at the time, but he hit that point where it was just too good value to pass up. Needless to say, I'm much happier today.

 

Gurley is not completely undraftable.

[TimHauck 1,800]

He's going to be a second....early third round pick next year. Probably something like RB10-12. An every week starter. He's had almost twice as many games with 50 yards or less than 100 yard rushing games in his career (9 to 5). That's nearly 40% of his career with fewer than 50 yards rushing. He's had like one or two runs of 20 yards this year. No 40 yard runs this year. Those stats are horrible.

 

If the Rams land a good OC and retool their OL, maybe I'd rethink it. But as it is now....no way.

He's the RB20 in my league. There are several guys ahead of him that probably won't bring about much excitement either for next year.

 

Obviously people may not like him at his ADP, but to say he's a DND if he falls below that could be a mistake.

[Kopy 491]

I still got alot of faith in the kid. Right now in my 12 team ppr dynasty league, I got an offer out to his owner which I think is fair.

Gurley for the lions backfield. Ameer Abdullah, Theo Riddick and a 2017 first rounder (it'll be between 7 an 12).

I'm really hoping the guy bites. I don't have much to send, so this initial offer is all pretty much the best I can do also.

[knight11e 10]

Guys, there's always a point where these types of guys become too good to pass up and are worth the pick.

Just look at Demarco Murray this year. I got him in the 6th rd this year, and I still was very "meh" about the pick at the time, but he hit that point where it was just too good value to pass up. Needless to say, I'm much happier today.

 

Gurley is not completely undraftable.

Exact same situation for me, except I got him in round 7 (!?). I passed on DM in round 4, somebody will surely take him. Passed again in 5, then 6. By round 7 I felt like I had no choice but to give him a look. Glad I did.

[polecatt 403]

He could still finish strong the last 4 games and some what salvage his season. That would certainly boost him up the rankings into the off season. They could improve at QB or OL as well.

If that happens I could see him going as a solid RB1 by the time next season rolls around.

I doubt that happens though. I don't see him having a strong 4 games. I believe he has a big game left in him this year, 2 if we're lucky. Not 3 or 4 though.

I don't think the decline this season is due to a lack in skill. I think it's mainly situational. That means there is still hope.

That said there is a line of RBs who shine in their rookie season and appear destined for stardom, only to have it all come crashing down. Trent Richardson is the clear recent example of this.

The late Rashaan Salaam fell victim to this as well. Could Gurley be the latest? Let's hope not.

I still think many will draft him based on his perceived talent level and rookie success. I could see him as a 3rd rounder or possibly even late second rounder if things improve around him.

I don't see him dropping out of the 3rd. Many will still view him as top 5 RB potential. Who says he doesn't have it? He'll get a lot of touches, and he's stayed healthy.

He pretty much has to improve on this season, right?

[Oriole8159 86]

Exact same situation for me, except I got him in round 7 (!?). I passed on DM in round 4, somebody will surely take him. Passed again in 5, then 6. By round 7 I felt like I had no choice but to give him a look. Glad I did.

and I went zero RB early too, so I was able to get him plus 3 top WRS and a top TE.

[Oriole8159 86]

He could still finish strong the last 4 games and some what salvage his season. That would certainly boost him up the rankings into the off season. They could improve at QB or OL as well.

If that happens I could see him going as a solid RB1 by the time next season rolls around.

I doubt that happens though. I don't see him having a strong 4 games. I believe he has a big game left in him this year, 2 if we're lucky. Not 3 or 4 though.

I don't think the decline this season is due to a lack in skill. I think it's mainly situational. That means there is still hope.

That said there is a line of RBs who shine in their rookie season and appear destined for stardom, only to have it all come crashing down. Trent Richardson is the clear recent example of this.

The late Rashaan Salaam fell victim to this as well. Could Gurley be the latest? Let's hope not.

I still think many will draft him based on his perceived talent level and rookie success. I could see him as a 3rd rounder or possibly even late second rounder if things improve around him.

I don't see him dropping out of the 3rd. Many will still view him as top 5 RB potential. Who says he doesn't have it? He'll get a lot of touches, and he's stayed healthy.

He pretty much has to improve on this season, right?

 

I fell victim to this sophomore RB thing a long time ago, and boy was it painful.

 

Laurence Maroney in Rd 1, Reggie Bush in Rd 2, Brandon Jacobs in Rd 4.

 

That was not a fun year.