Antiramie 50 Posted December 8, 2008 This may sound crazy, but I'm really considering starting Thigpen over Brees next week. Bears D is looking scary again, and the forecast says it might be 5 degrees with the wind chill. Not exactly dome-team friendly... I really don't want to sit a stud for a playoff game, but this matchup screams BENCH! Anyone else drinking my kool-aid? If so, who you replacing Brees with? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenixTx972 2 Posted December 8, 2008 same exact situation, brees or thigpen haven't started anyone different at QB all year. Having said that, he's averaged 17 pts away, and 14 pts in outside stadiums this year. Combine that with that the game will be a Thursday night where it will be snowing and in the twenties. VS Thiggy, averaging 23 pts at home vs a chargers. Weather.com says high of 46 with a chance of rain... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBlade 3 Posted December 8, 2008 Along those same lines, how do you think the weather affects other matchups in this game? I'm looking at being forced to start P Thomas as one of my RBs due to the two injuries yesterday to Gore and Hillis. Normally, the Saints passing offense is good enough against just about any team to open up some running lanes, but if the weather's that bad I think they'll be lucky to not be frozen solid right there on the field. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luckdogg17 0 Posted December 8, 2008 tough call. i would wait until thursday night and look at the latest weather forecasts for both games and then make my final decision. unless it is very windy, i would expect the saints to throw it a lot because that is usually what they do. the bears defense looked good today, but that was against jax, who has been mostly unimpressive this year. at the same time, the kc/sd game could easily be a high-scoring shootout. the brees/thigpen decision is surprisingly a difficult one that could go either way. if you're anything like me, i would recommend just deciding which guy you believe will have the best game and then start the other guy. obviously, you want to start the guy that will put up the most points, but it would probably be a rough off-season if you bench brees, lose, and would have won if you would have started brees. this is just one more factor to consider, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimESmalls 0 Posted December 8, 2008 This is NOT a difficult decision. Brees a million percent of the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter34 3 Posted December 8, 2008 As a Bears fan, I'm afraid that Brees will pick apart the Bears pass D regardless of weather. I would start him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted December 8, 2008 You have got to be kidding me. Brees against Chi is a must start. Cold weather. These are pros we are talking about. Don't be the wuss you think Brees is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuse9 128 Posted December 8, 2008 I have Brees in three leagues. I'll be starting Warner over him in one league. The other two though.....it's Brees all the way. My option in one league is Jeff Garcia and my option in the other league is.......JeMarcus Russell, I don't think so!! Bears are good, but they do have injuries to their secondary. With a healthy Reggie, Brees is that much better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
16 and 33 0 Posted December 8, 2008 This may sound crazy, but I'm really considering starting Thigpen over Brees next week. Bears D is looking scary again, and the forecast says it might be 5 degrees with the wind chill. Not exactly dome-team friendly... I really don't want to sit a stud for a playoff game, but this matchup screams BENCH! Anyone else drinking my kool-aid? If so, who you replacing Brees with? Against which quality QB have the 2008 Bears looked scarey? They have had trouble with several average QBs. 5 degrees with wind chill screams BENCH to you? Did you watch Matt Schaub pass for 400+ in 2 degrees actual? Anybody who carries Warner with Brees has a case to be made; everyone else, start him with confidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted December 8, 2008 This may sound crazy, but I'm really considering starting Thigpen over Brees next week. Bears D is looking scary again, and the forecast says it might be 5 degrees with the wind chill. Not exactly dome-team friendly... I really don't want to sit a stud for a playoff game, but this matchup screams BENCH! Anyone else drinking my kool-aid? If so, who you replacing Brees with? The Bears have the 28th ranked defense vs. the pass. Unless there's a blizzard, I'm starting him with confidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n_omarley 11 Posted December 8, 2008 People quite often over-rate the impact of weather The boys from Houston didn't seem to have much of a problem moving the ball in sub-zero temps yesterday I have Brees in both of my leagues, and I plan to sink or swim with him all the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PATSSOX 22 Posted December 8, 2008 The Bears have the 28th ranked defense vs. the pass. Unless there's blizzard, I'm starting him with confidence. yes DA BEARS pass defense is awful!!!! if i pull out victory this week im rollin with brees. he can throw during snow, sleet, rain, blizzard, wind, or what ever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hood 9 Posted December 8, 2008 This will also not be something new for Brees. He's played late season games in Chicago for the last 2 years straight. (Week 17 and the NFC Champ.) He put up very good numbers in both and threw it a ton (109 attempts total). Bears pass D is MUCH worse this year too. You'd have to be crazy to not start him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Headslap75 0 Posted December 8, 2008 Brees went to college at Purdue.....played in bad weather games all the time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoonCrew 2 Posted December 8, 2008 I have Brees as well but I also have Rodger Vs. Jax. This will be a tough call to bench Brees but if the weather is bad what would you do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoCalMakos 0 Posted December 8, 2008 The Houston vs. GB game yesterday was a great example. Cold does'nt seem to have that much to do with a QBs stats the only thing that would worry me is if there are strong winds. Brees did well in the 06 NFC Championship game, not as cold but went 27/49 -354 -2 TDs. I have Bush and Lance Moore so I will be watching the weather report. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted December 8, 2008 You people crack me up. Why on Earth would you bench Brees? The guy is an elite QB!!! Stop overthinking these matchups. I know everyone's scoring system might be different but David Garrard, based on my league's scoring, put up 12 points against the Bears. If Garrard put up 12 with only 1 viable offensive threat, what do you think Brees will do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pee-diddy 27 Posted December 8, 2008 Don't overthink it fellas. Unless it is a swamp on the field and 80 degree winds I am starting Brees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted December 8, 2008 I own Brees & P. Thomas. I'm starting both without a doubt. Why? Because in the playoffs, you go with the studs that got you there. The worst thing that can happen is for you to stick someone in there over Brees and lose. Not the time to get Cute. If you going to lose, at least lose with your best players my friends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted December 8, 2008 Against which quality QB have the 2008 Bears looked scarey? They have had trouble with several average QBs. 5 degrees with wind chill screams BENCH to you? Did you watch Matt Schaub pass for 400+ in 2 degrees actual? Anybody who carries Warner with Brees has a case to be made; everyone else, start him with confidence. QFT IMO that's the only way you'd sit Brees. Consider that if it's really windy, Pierre Thomas and Reggie will still catch that underneath stuff and work their magic. BTW, I am rolling with P. Thomas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted December 8, 2008 I own Brees & P. Thomas.I'm starting both without a doubt. Why? Because in the playoffs, you go with the studs that got you there. The worst thing that can happen is for you to stick someone in there over Brees and lose. Not the time to get Cute. If you going to lose, at least lose with your best players my friends. Could you imagine how bad you'd feel watching Brees put up 300 yards and 3 TDs on your bench as your team goes down in flames? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted December 8, 2008 Could you imagine how bad you'd feel watching Brees put up 300 yards and 3 TDs on your bench as your team goes down in flames? Dude! You just dogged me for starting Romo! Consistency! Catch it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted December 8, 2008 Dude! You just dogged me for starting Romo! Consistency! Catch it! I'm starting Brees vs. the 28th ranked pass defense, you started Romo vs. #1 ranked defense. I think I'm being pretty consistent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted December 8, 2008 I'm starting Brees vs. the 28th ranked pass defense, you started Romo vs. #1 ranked defense. I think I'm being pretty consistent. It falls under the category of not benching your studs. If Romo had a history of not putting up numbers against tough defenses, that would be one thing. He doesn't. I'll give it to you that he has a history of choking in certain game situations, but on a whole, he's too good to bench. Be honest. If you were, say, a Barber owner, would you bench him against the Steelers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted December 8, 2008 It falls under the category of not benching your studs. If Romo had a history of not putting up numbers against tough defenses, that would be one thing. He doesn't. I'll give it to you that he has a history of choking in certain game situations, but on a whole, he's too good to bench. Be honest. If you were, say, a Barber owner, would you bench him against the Steelers? He has a history in cooling off come December and during critical games. Facing a Steelers team that's limiting opponents to about 250 total offense and less than 14.5 points a game IS the one time you should bench him. I'd have benched MBIII too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted December 8, 2008 It falls under the category of not benching your studs. If Romo had a history of not putting up numbers against tough defenses, that would be one thing. He doesn't. I'll give it to you that he has a history of choking in certain game situations, but on a whole, he's too good to bench. Be honest. If you were, say, a Barber owner, would you bench him against the Steelers? It depends on your other options. It funny you should ask though, since I do own Barber and had him on my bench even before I heard he wasn't playing, in favor of Dunn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AintNoStoppinMeNow 68 Posted December 8, 2008 Brees went to college at Purdue.....played in bad weather games all the time This. I would start Brees and not worry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Gladstone 33 Posted December 8, 2008 Brees is going to carve up the Bears. Dont ever bench him unless his (throwing) arm is amputated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 1,941 Posted December 9, 2008 I'm in New Orleans!!! Thomas or MJD? I'm leaning on PT Cruiser to ride it out! What say you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheaties 0 Posted December 9, 2008 I have both Brees and Warner. The only thing that concerns me about Brees this week is his TD/INT ratio on the road. Home: 19 TD / 4 INT Away: 7 TD / 10 INT Granted he still averages 300 ypg on the road, but those are pretty awful home/road splits. However, Minnesota (for Warner) has only allowed 12 passing TDs this year... so he's not exactly the better matchup either. I'm probably starting Brees... along with Forte... so that Thursday night game will basically make-or-break my playoff run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted December 9, 2008 Scoring on Thursday night games have been pretty high over the past 2 seasons. Offense get an edge with shorten weeks. Here's hoping that we get a 45-35 type game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smelly_spider 0 Posted December 9, 2008 I have been debating this for 2 days and I just now realized...what the FOCK am I thinking...its Drew FOCKING Brees am I FOCKING stupid??...Unless you have Warner or Cutler it has to be Brees Cheers Spider Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ringquest 0 Posted December 9, 2008 The weather is predicted to be not that bad...low 20s, little wind, and little precipitation. The harder question is: if you are a Brees owner, would you start K. Walter in a dome vs. TENN over M. Colston????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craphouse rats 0 Posted December 9, 2008 How about the other way around. is anyone starting Orton against a banged up Saints D? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krizay 0 Posted December 9, 2008 This may sound crazy, but I'm really considering starting Thigpen over Brees next week. Bears D is looking scary again, and the forecast says it might be 5 degrees with the wind chill. Not exactly dome-team friendly... I really don't want to sit a stud for a playoff game, but this matchup screams BENCH! Anyone else drinking my kool-aid? If so, who you replacing Brees with? I had a Warner/Thigpen decision 5 minutes ago. I really don't like either matchup. So I picked up Shaun Hill and not looking back. If I had Brees I'd be looking at Shaun Hill as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjanson 0 Posted December 9, 2008 Brees went to college at Purdue.....played in bad weather games all the time What he said - I've never been colder than I was at the bucket game in '00. Granted it was IU - but DB will be fine. If memory serves he threw for somewhere around 250-2 in that game. And the temps were in the single digits. Start him - I am! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MUHOF 0 Posted December 9, 2008 This may sound crazy, but I'm really considering starting Thigpen over Brees next week. Bears D is looking scary again, and the forecast says it might be 5 degrees with the wind chill. Not exactly dome-team friendly... I really don't want to sit a stud for a playoff game, but this matchup screams BENCH! Anyone else drinking my kool-aid? If so, who you replacing Brees with? Bears homer here, I think it's a HUGE mistake not to start Brees. The Bears have looked good against St. Louis & Jacksonville recently . Look what the Packers and Vikings did to them, they're not as good as everyone thinks, this stigma about the Bears D is strange as I've seen every play, every game. Early in the year they could have put a few wins together and got on a roll, but they let Brain Griese shred them, and they let Delhomme and Carolina come back and beat them. Start Brees with confidence, cold weather doesn't mean a thing, -20 maybe but it's not supposed to be that bad Thursday. The ONLY way you don't start him is if the wind is blowing 20+ MPH. Good luck!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,563 Posted December 9, 2008 Start Addai, LJ, and Hightower over Brees. Play those matchups. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craphouse rats 0 Posted December 9, 2008 Bears homer here, I think it's a HUGE mistake not to start Brees. The Bears have looked good against St. Louis & Jacksonville recently . Look what the Packers and Vikings did to them, they're not as good as everyone thinks, this stigma about the Bears D is strange as I've seen every play, every game. Early in the year they could have put a few wins together and got on a roll, but they let Brain Griese shred them, and they let Delhomme and Carolina come back and beat them. Start Brees with confidence, cold weather doesn't mean a thing, -20 maybe but it's not supposed to be that bad Thursday. The ONLY way you don't start him is if the wind is blowing 20+ MPH. Good luck!!! What about starting Orton? Do you think he can have some success? Possibly 2-3 TD's and yards? I want to start him against a beat up NO secondary but need some affirmation from a Bears fan fan who has seen him play this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RamslovaMartzhata 3 Posted December 9, 2008 Chicago is 28th in the league vs the pass. The only tupe of weather that typically concerns me is wind... so if the reports in this thread are true about 5 mph or less, than I have no problems starting Brees in the Windy city. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites