drobeski 3,061 Posted March 28, 2011 Like conservatives said during the election about him legitimizing our enemies by meeting with them unconditionally. Like the will of the people on the health care debate .....ignore .....ance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,243 Posted March 29, 2011 This issue is a huge win for Obama so it makes total sense for him to continue to not show his birth certificate just to make frothing at the mouth lunatics look foolish whenever try to put it front and center. I don't like Obama and don't want to vote for him but people obsessed with his birth certificate have no idea how stoopid and ridiculous they sound to everybody else. Believe me, you look like a fool for bringing this up repeatedly and are inadvertently hurting your own cause to get Obama out of office. I advise you to accept the advice of your more intelligent allies, shut your mouth, and hook onto one of the mountain of legitimate things to criticize him about and spend your efforts on something productive that actually helps and not hurts your cause. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted March 29, 2011 This issue is a huge win for Obama so it makes total sense for him to continue to not show his birth certificate just to make frothing at the mouth lunatics look foolish whenever try to put it front and center. I don't like Obama and don't want to vote for him but people obsessed with his birth certificate have no idea how stoopid and ridiculous they sound to everybody else. Believe me, you look like a fool for bringing this up repeatedly and are inadvertently hurting your own cause to get Obama out of office. I advise you to accept the advice of your more intelligent allies, shut your mouth, and hook onto one of the mountain of legitimate things to criticize him about and spend your efforts on something productive that actually helps and not hurts your cause. he obviously has something to hide. takes a real man to admit his secrets and he is not. sunshine is the best cleanser Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 29, 2011 This issue is a huge win for Obama so it makes total sense for him to continue to not show his birth certificate just to make frothing at the mouth lunatics look foolish whenever try to put it front and center. I don't like Obama and don't want to vote for him but people obsessed with his birth certificate have no idea how stoopid and ridiculous they sound to everybody else. Believe me, you look like a fool for bringing this up repeatedly and are inadvertently hurting your own cause to get Obama out of office. I advise you to accept the advice of your more intelligent allies, shut your mouth, and hook onto one of the mountain of legitimate things to criticize him about and spend your efforts on something productive that actually helps and not hurts your cause. Tell that to mr trump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 29, 2011 still no legitimate reasons....from so many intelligent folks too.... you should all get refunds from your liberal professors Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted March 29, 2011 still no legitimate reasons....from so many intelligent folks too.... you should all get refunds from your liberal professors Do you think his short form certificate is legit or fake? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted March 29, 2011 Do you think his short form certificate is legit or fake? Bump. Hello? Drobeski? Yooohoooo. Someone's trying to ask you a question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,156 Posted March 29, 2011 The birthers consider the short form a forgery so why wouldn't they consider the long form a forgery? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIVEfVGLBQ So this chaod has his face blurred, his voice changed, but gives his full name and allows the camera to get images of his family pictures in the background? uhm.....what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted March 29, 2011 Like conservatives said during the election about him legitimizing our enemies by meeting with them unconditionally. I don't know, which "enemies" were being referred to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 596 Posted March 29, 2011 So this chaod has his face blurred, his voice changed, but gives his full name and allows the camera to get images of his family pictures in the background? uhm.....what? Just exemplifies how retarded the birthers are Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted March 29, 2011 It's in the same box with his school transcripts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted March 29, 2011 The reason he shows only the short form is because the long form has his religion as Muslim stated on it. Obama is hiding his long form, not because he wasn't born here, but because he thought it wasn't good "politically". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted March 29, 2011 The reason he shows only the short form is because the long form has his religion as Muslim stated on it. Obama is hiding his long form, not because he wasn't born here, but because he thought it wasn't good "politically". So you've seen the long form, then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted March 29, 2011 So you've seen the long form, then? No, it's my theory. A theory based on facts. The fact that he won't show it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted March 29, 2011 No, it's my theory. A theory based on facts. The fact that he won't show it. So when you say "the long form has his religion as Muslim stated on it", you are talking out of your ass since you have no idea what it says on it. Because you certainly didn't say "I suspect the long form has his religion as Muslim stated on it". But I'm sure your bullsh1t "theory" will be enough to satisfy drobeski. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted March 29, 2011 So when you say "the long form has his religion as Muslim stated on it", you are talking out of your ass since you have no idea what it says on it. Because you certainly didn't say "I suspect the long form has his religion as Muslim stated on it". But I'm sure your bullsh1t "theory" will be enough to satisfy drobeski. If you can't disprove a theory through the scientific process, it must be true. :overhead: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted March 29, 2011 If you can't disprove a theory through the scientific process, it must be true. :overhead: You've got science mixed up with...well, something else, I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,620 Posted March 29, 2011 This issue is a huge win for Obama so it makes total sense for him to continue to not show his birth certificate just to make frothing at the mouth lunatics look foolish whenever try to put it front and center. I don't like Obama and don't want to vote for him but people obsessed with his birth certificate have no idea how stoopid and ridiculous they sound to everybody else. Believe me, you look like a fool for bringing this up repeatedly and are inadvertently hurting your own cause to get Obama out of office. I advise you to accept the advice of your more intelligent allies, shut your mouth, and hook onto one of the mountain of legitimate things to criticize him about and spend your efforts on something productive that actually helps and not hurts your cause. Perhaps, perhaps not. Remember, the vast majority of people who vote are pretty dumb. That being said, I'm fascinated by the ire generated by this topic. I've always been in the "just show the dadgum thing" camp. IMO there are only two valid reasons not to: 1. It is lost, or doesn't exist, and to admit as much just adds fuel to the birther fire. 2. It has something incriminating, like the Muslim theory. To say that he has it and is just sitting on it because of some deep strategy doesn't pass the sniff test. Again IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted March 29, 2011 If you can't disprove a theory through the scientific process, it must be true. :overhead: I have observed other birth certificates from the era and see no sign of a religion field. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted March 29, 2011 You've got science mixed up with...well, something else, I guess. You've got me mixed up with someone who gives a ratsass about this subject. :banana: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted March 29, 2011 You've got me mixed up with someone who gives a ratsass about this subject. :banana: Not really. At what point did I say you cared about it? :doublethumbsup: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted March 29, 2011 You've got me mixed up with someone who gives a ratsass about this subject. :banana: ROFL!!!! Yet you cared enough to open the thread. Why do you continue to lie? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted March 29, 2011 ROFL!!!! Yet you cared enough to open the thread. Why do you continue to lie? Entertainment purposes, Bubbles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MedStudent 56 Posted March 29, 2011 The reason he shows only the short form is because the long form has his religion as Muslim stated on it. Obama is hiding his long form, not because he wasn't born here, but because he thought it wasn't good "politically". The "long form" does not have a box for religion. Your theory lasted less than an hour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 29, 2011 Do you think his short form certificate is legit or fake? Don't know could be real, by him hiding the long form it calls it into question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 29, 2011 The "long form" does not have a box for religion. You saw it ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MedStudent 56 Posted March 29, 2011 You saw it ? I didn't see Obama's long form but I have seen other Hawaiian long forms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted March 29, 2011 Drobeski, do you believe his short form birth certificate is authentic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted March 29, 2011 Don't know could be real, by him hiding the long form it calls it into question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 29, 2011 Drobeski, do you believe his short form birth certificate is authentic? Don't know and neither do you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted March 29, 2011 Don't know and neither do you But a 2nd piece of paper that says the same thing as the first piece of paper would convince you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted March 29, 2011 I didn't see Obama's long form but I have seen other Hawaiian long forms. If you look at the two forms one thing comes to mind. Obama's looks unusually modern. The other is obviously done on a typewriter. Letters are at different heights, different ink densities, etc........... Obama's looks like it came off an inkjet printer. Do we have another Dan Rather forgery here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted March 29, 2011 Don't know and neither do you And how, exactly, would that change if it was in long form? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted March 29, 2011 The "long form" does not have a box for religion. Of course not. However the long form reeked of curry and when signed by the mother she also wrote: "Alhamdulillah!". If it walks like a duck, and..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 29, 2011 And how, exactly, would that change if it was in long form? Don't know, just like we don't know why he simply won't show in and has spent millions not to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted March 29, 2011 So when you say "the long form has his religion as Muslim stated on it", you are talking out of your ass since you have no idea what it says on it. Because you certainly didn't say "I suspect the long form has his religion as Muslim stated on it". But I'm sure your bullsh1t "theory" will be enough to satisfy drobeski. Oh wait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted March 29, 2011 Perhaps, perhaps not. Remember, the vast majority of people who vote are pretty dumb. That being said, I'm fascinated by the ire generated by this topic. I've always been in the "just show the dadgum thing" camp. IMO there are only two valid reasons not to: 1. It is lost, or doesn't exist, and to admit as much just adds fuel to the birther fire. 2. It has something incriminating, like the Muslim theory. To say that he has it and is just sitting on it because of some deep strategy doesn't pass the sniff test. Again IMO. ^^this. You listening, penultimatestraw? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted March 29, 2011 Don't know, just like we don't know why he simply won't show in and has spent millions not to. I'm sure he's having a blast watching all the retards carry on about something so stupid. Also, link to him spending millions not to show it? He's already satisfied the requirements that were necessary for him to become President. At this point, he's just laughing at lunatics. He has nothing he has to prove to you and the other whackos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MedStudent 56 Posted March 29, 2011 Don't know and neither do you Do you know that the Republican Governor of hawaii said the short form was legit. This is the same woman who was stumping for McCain. If you lived in hawaii and needed a copy of your birth certificate for a driver's license or a passport, you would be issued what Obama has already shown as proof of birth. So, during the original birther controversy, the campaign finally released the "short form", to shut the nut jobs up. What happened? It stirred a hornets nest of whackos who said it was a forgery. why would he release anything else? There was also his birth announcement in the Honululu newspaper. I guess they just figured he would be President so they called the newspaper from kenya so that they could one day say he was an American citizen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites