Self Defense Killing in Florida...Geeks got an opinion?

[kutulu 1,724]

Did you catch NorthernVike's racist post a few pages back? (It has since been deleted; I don't know why NV wasn't banned but he should have been.)

 

Because as disgusting as that post was, I think it was one of the more truthful posts from the pro-Zimmerman crowd. He merely said what some of you are thinking in the back of your mind.

Getting banned here is like winning the lottery....almost never happens.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,433]

Isn't the key to this incident the identification of the person yelling for help?

 

If it is Trayvon, it should be a lay-up for a murder charge.

 

If it is Zimmerman, he may very well have been acting in self defense.

 

 

No, I don't think so. The key is determining who initiated the altercation.

 

- if Zimmerman tracks down Martin and approaches him in a manner in which Martin is threatened, then you are talking murder/manslaughter

- if Martin walks up to Zimmerman and punches him in the face with no provocation (as Zimmerman has supposedly claimed), then you have self-defense

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Did you catch NorthernVike's racist post a few pages back? (It has since been deleted; I don't know why NV wasn't banned but he should have been.)

 

Because as disgusting as that post was, I think it was one of the more truthful posts from the pro-Zimmerman crowd. He merely said what some of you are thinking in the back of your mind.

Begging for someone to get banned? What a nutless wonder you are.

 

And I love how anyone who hasn't tried and convicted Zimmerman on the sketchy details we know is somehow racist.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,433]

Begging for someone to get banned? What a nutless wonder you are.

 

And I love how anyone who hasn't tried and convicted Zimmerman on the sketchy details we know is somehow racist.

 

Frankly, I am little p!ssed that you haven't gone down the path of bashing Messicans who commit crimes.

[redtodd 7]

No, I don't think so. The key is determining who initiated the altercation.

 

- if Zimmerman tracks down Martin and approaches him in a manner in which Martin is threatened, then you are talking murder/manslaughter

- if Martin walks up to Zimmerman and punches him in the face with no provocation (as Zimmerman has supposedly claimed), then you have self-defense

 

Your first bullet point is kind of fuzzy.

 

Would "threatened" mean "get your arse out of here or I will call the cops?" or is he waving the gun in his face screaming "I will blow your head off" or did he punch Travon?

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,433]

Your first bullet point is kind of fuzzy.

 

Would "threatened" mean "get your arse out of here or I will call the cops?" or is he waving the gun in his face screaming "I will blow your head off" or did he punch Travon?

 

Of course it is "fuzzy". Florida's law is "fuzzy". He would just have to be in reasonable fear that he could receive great bodily harm. In your example, I don't think that the threat of having the cops called would be "reasonable". The other two are reasonable IMO.

[MDC 8,084]

We do know he's a welching mascara wearing secretary who failed miserably at his dream to become a writer and lives in the scientifically proven sh!ttiest city on the planet.

 

I am a writer and I love living in Philadelphia. What does this have to do with Zimmerman / Martin.

[redtodd 7]

Of course it is "fuzzy". Florida's law is "fuzzy". He would just have to be in reasonable fear that he could receive great bodily harm. In your example, I don't think that the threat of having the cops called would be "reasonable". The other two are reasonable IMO.

 

The tough thing will be that no one will (most likely) know what happened in the beginning of the interaction between the two (unless there is a credible eye witness, which I don't think there is yet).

 

After that, I think you can only go on what evidence is in front of you which is eye witnesses near the end and after and an audio of the cries for help. I got chills when I first heard the cries for help when I thought it was Trayvon. Now it is up for debate on who it is, apparently.

 

I would think someone can figure out who it is through technology (assumption of mine). Unless someone can prove Zimmerman assaulted Trayvon first, it will be hard to prove it wasn't self defense if that voice is Zimmerman's. If that voice is Trayvon's, then Zimmerman needs to pay the price for killing someone begging for help no matter who started it.

[Bishop82 61]

Your first bullet point is kind of fuzzy.

 

Pun intended??

[nikki2200 4]

No shiot. You, worms and the slvt have decided a man is guilty until proved innocent.

 

 

 

Have you had your mongoloid kid yet? Meybe you can name him Trayvon

 

 

I'm assuming I am the slvt being mentioned here. Link to where I said I already convicted him.

 

I am of the camp that is appalled at the fact that a teenager has ended up dead after being followed by a psychopath with a gun, and over a month later said psychopath has not been charged with anything. I am confuzzled over what kind of laws could exist that would allow this to happen.

 

And nothing I have read about any of the "facts" make it any easier to believe that an unarmed teenager walking home from a store deserved to be shot and killed given the chain of events.

 

But now we have outrage over the media referring to a white guy as white. A dead teenager who is being depicted as a criminal thug because he had and empty pot baggie on him and got suspended from school (although the fact that the crazy dude with the gun had previously been arrested for assaulting a police officer and has restraining orders against him isn't being discussed, which I never even knew until MDC posted it in this thread). And anyone who thinks that the guy should have to stand trial for killing another human being is just a puppet in the race wars in this country.

 

This isn't a case where a prolonged investigation should need to take place. They didn't have to bring in the CSI team with their hazmat suits looking for strands of hair. We have a dead kid and a guy holding a gun standing over him. Why is that not enough for a trial to happen?

 

And if a trial did happen, there is a person who was on the phone with Trayvon at the time of the incident who is willing to testify that she heard Zimmerman approach him and a scuffle ensue. Or have we all determined that piece of evidence is irrelevant?

 

Apparently the investigator who interviewed Zimmerman after the incident agrees because he recommended he be charged, but the DA and the police chief decided not to.

 

Also considering that we didn't hear a peep about this until weeks after it happened when the parents called the NAACP because they were infuriated that no charges had been filed, all of this could have been avoided if they just charged Zimmerman for killing an unarmed teenager. Now there is no way Zimmerman will get a fair trial. Additional violence will certainly occur. And Zimmerman will probably have to be put in protective custody if he is eventually found innocent. The whole situation is a mess and it is still my opinion that based on all the FACTS, that it could have been avoided if Zimmerman was arrested and charged. I am unaware that a guy saying he killed someone in self defense is enough in this country to get off scott free after killing someone under questionable circumstances. And if there is some whacked out law in Florida that makes that not possible, it is my opinion that law is focked up.

 

And maybe there is something in me that is appalled by this tragedy because a kid was killed. I would imagine that had the circumstances been exactly the same and the kid was yours, you would also be appalled at the chain of events and not be willing to say.... meh... he was a trouble maker. He probably deserved it. Let's move on.

[phillybear 366]

I'm assuming I am the slvt being mentioned here. Link to where I said I already convicted him.

 

I am of the camp that is appalled at the fact that a teenager has ended up dead after being followed by a psychopath with a gun, and over a month later said psychopath has not been charged with anything. I am confuzzled over what kind of laws could exist that would allow this to happen.

 

And nothing I have read about any of the "facts" make it any easier to believe that an unarmed teenager walking home from a store deserved to be shot and killed given the chain of events.

 

But now we have outrage over the media referring to a white guy as white. A dead teenager who is being depicted as a criminal thug because he had and empty pot baggie on him and got suspended from school (although the fact that the crazy dude with the gun had previously been arrested for assaulting a police officer and has restraining orders against him isn't being discussed, which I never even knew until MDC posted it in this thread). And anyone who thinks that the guy should have to stand trial for killing another human being is just a puppet in the race wars in this country.

 

This isn't a case where a prolonged investigation should need to take place. They didn't have to bring in the CSI team with their hazmat suits looking for strands of hair. We have a dead kid and a guy holding a gun standing over him. Why is that not enough for a trial to happen?

 

And if a trial did happen, there is a person who was on the phone with Trayvon at the time of the incident who is willing to testify that she heard Zimmerman approach him and a scuffle ensue. Or have we all determined that piece of evidence is irrelevant?

 

Apparently the investigator who interviewed Zimmerman after the incident agrees because he recommended he be charged, but the DA and the police chief decided not to.

 

Also considering that we didn't hear a peep about this until weeks after it happened when the parents called the NAACP because they were infuriated that no charges had been filed, all of this could have been avoided if they just charged Zimmerman for killing an unarmed teenager. Now there is no way Zimmerman will get a fair trial. Additional violence will certainly occur. And Zimmerman will probably have to be put in protective custody if he is eventually found innocent. The whole situation is a mess and it is still my opinion that based on all the FACTS, that it could have been avoided if Zimmerman was arrested and charged. I am unaware that a guy saying he killed someone in self defense is enough in this country to get off scott free after killing someone under questionable circumstances. And if there is some whacked out law in Florida that makes that not possible, it is my opinion that law is focked up.

 

And maybe there is something in me that is appalled by this tragedy because a kid was killed. I would imagine that had the circumstances been exactly the same and the kid was yours, you would also be appalled at the chain of events and not be willing to say.... meh... he was a trouble maker. He probably deserved it. Let's move on.

 

I have never, never, never been so certain of anything in my life. You are mentally retarded.

[drobeski 3,061]

I'm assuming I am the slvt being mentioned here. Link to where I said I already convicted him.

 

I am of the camp that is appalled at the fact that a teenager has ended up dead after being followed by a psychopath with a gun, and over a month later said psychopath has not been charged with anything. I am confuzzled over what kind of laws could exist that would allow this to happen.

 

And nothing I have read about any of the "facts" make it any easier to believe that an unarmed teenager walking home from a store deserved to be shot and killed given the chain of events.

 

But now we have outrage over the media referring to a white guy as white. A dead teenager who is being depicted as a criminal thug because he had and empty pot baggie on him and got suspended from school (although the fact that the crazy dude with the gun had previously been arrested for assaulting a police officer and has restraining orders against him isn't being discussed, which I never even knew until MDC posted it in this thread). And anyone who thinks that the guy should have to stand trial for killing another human being is just a puppet in the race wars in this country.

 

This isn't a case where a prolonged investigation should need to take place. They didn't have to bring in the CSI team with their hazmat suits looking for strands of hair. We have a dead kid and a guy holding a gun standing over him. Why is that not enough for a trial to happen?

 

And if a trial did happen, there is a person who was on the phone with Trayvon at the time of the incident who is willing to testify that she heard Zimmerman approach him and a scuffle ensue. Or have we all determined that piece of evidence is irrelevant?

 

Apparently the investigator who interviewed Zimmerman after the incident agrees because he recommended he be charged, but the DA and the police chief decided not to.

 

Also considering that we didn't hear a peep about this until weeks after it happened when the parents called the NAACP because they were infuriated that no charges had been filed, all of this could have been avoided if they just charged Zimmerman for killing an unarmed teenager. Now there is no way Zimmerman will get a fair trial. Additional violence will certainly occur. And Zimmerman will probably have to be put in protective custody if he is eventually found innocent. The whole situation is a mess and it is still my opinion that based on all the FACTS, that it could have been avoided if Zimmerman was arrested and charged. I am unaware that a guy saying he killed someone in self defense is enough in this country to get off scott free after killing someone under questionable circumstances. And if there is some whacked out law in Florida that makes that not possible, it is my opinion that law is focked up.

 

And maybe there is something in me that is appalled by this tragedy because a kid was killed. I would imagine that had the circumstances been exactly the same and the kid was yours, you would also be appalled at the chain of events and not be willing to say.... meh... he was a trouble maker. He probably deserved it. Let's move on.

So its safe to assume you consider Obama white also right ? After all he did have a white mom

[BudBro 185]

But now we have outrage over the media referring to a white guy as white.

i think the new outrage is over the fake outrage generated by the media trying to advance an agenda prior to an election cycle for an incumbent who needs race, gender, and economic class division in order to contend.

 

as to the case, if the latino dude murdered the black kid, he should be judged, convicted, and given the death penalty. in fact, if it was a murder, it would be fine to turn him over to the black panthers. and the next time a black guy murders a white person, it would be fine to turn the murderer over to the skinheads.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,433]

I'm assuming I am the slvt being mentioned here. Link to where I said I already convicted him.

 

I am of the camp that is appalled at the fact that a teenager has ended up dead after being followed by a psychopath with a gun, and over a month later said psychopath has not been charged with anything. I am confuzzled over what kind of laws could exist that would allow this to happen.

 

And nothing I have read about any of the "facts" make it any easier to believe that an unarmed teenager walking home from a store deserved to be shot and killed given the chain of events.

 

But now we have outrage over the media referring to a white guy as white. A dead teenager who is being depicted as a criminal thug because he had and empty pot baggie on him and got suspended from school (although the fact that the crazy dude with the gun had previously been arrested for assaulting a police officer and has restraining orders against him isn't being discussed, which I never even knew until MDC posted it in this thread). And anyone who thinks that the guy should have to stand trial for killing another human being is just a puppet in the race wars in this country.

 

This isn't a case where a prolonged investigation should need to take place. They didn't have to bring in the CSI team with their hazmat suits looking for strands of hair. We have a dead kid and a guy holding a gun standing over him. Why is that not enough for a trial to happen?

 

And if a trial did happen, there is a person who was on the phone with Trayvon at the time of the incident who is willing to testify that she heard Zimmerman approach him and a scuffle ensue. Or have we all determined that piece of evidence is irrelevant?

 

Apparently the investigator who interviewed Zimmerman after the incident agrees because he recommended he be charged, but the DA and the police chief decided not to.

 

Also considering that we didn't hear a peep about this until weeks after it happened when the parents called the NAACP because they were infuriated that no charges had been filed, all of this could have been avoided if they just charged Zimmerman for killing an unarmed teenager. Now there is no way Zimmerman will get a fair trial. Additional violence will certainly occur. And Zimmerman will probably have to be put in protective custody if he is eventually found innocent. The whole situation is a mess and it is still my opinion that based on all the FACTS, that it could have been avoided if Zimmerman was arrested and charged. I am unaware that a guy saying he killed someone in self defense is enough in this country to get off scott free after killing someone under questionable circumstances. And if there is some whacked out law in Florida that makes that not possible, it is my opinion that law is focked up.

 

And maybe there is something in me that is appalled by this tragedy because a kid was killed. I would imagine that had the circumstances been exactly the same and the kid was yours, you would also be appalled at the chain of events and not be willing to say.... meh... he was a trouble maker. He probably deserved it. Let's move on.

 

Can we get back to your sluttiness?

[nikki2200 4]

So its safe to assume you consider Obama white also right ? After all he did have a white mom

 

Obama is half white, half black.

 

Zimmerman is all white because Hispanics are focking white. I'm not going to get into this again. Just because you don't like them, does not make them not white. Hispanic is an ethnicity within the white race. Just like I am Italian and you are Polish, but still white. Get it?

[KSB2424 3,174]

Obama is half white, half black.

 

Zimmerman is all white because Hispanics are focking white. I'm not going to get into this again. Just because you don't like them, does not make them not white. Hispanic is an ethnicity within the white race. Just like I am Italian and you are Polish, but still white. Get it?

Why didn't you help me with my outrage color matrix I was building. Maybe you can now.

 

What about Indian (as in middle east). White or Black? TIA

[nikki2200 4]

Can we get back to your sluttiness?

 

I think Obama should call me and apologize for me being called a slvt simply because I am expressing my views on something.

[parrot 790]

I'm assuming I am the slvt being mentioned here. Link to where I said I already convicted him.

 

I am of the camp that is appalled at the fact that a teenager has ended up dead after being followed by a psychopath with a gun, and over a month later said psychopath has not been charged with anything. I am confuzzled over what kind of laws could exist that would allow this to happen.

 

And nothing I have read about any of the "facts" make it any easier to believe that an unarmed teenager walking home from a store deserved to be shot and killed given the chain of events.

 

But now we have outrage over the media referring to a white guy as white. A dead teenager who is being depicted as a criminal thug because he had and empty pot baggie on him and got suspended from school (although the fact that the crazy dude with the gun had previously been arrested for assaulting a police officer and has restraining orders against him isn't being discussed, which I never even knew until MDC posted it in this thread). And anyone who thinks that the guy should have to stand trial for killing another human being is just a puppet in the race wars in this country.

 

This isn't a case where a prolonged investigation should need to take place. They didn't have to bring in the CSI team with their hazmat suits looking for strands of hair. We have a dead kid and a guy holding a gun standing over him. Why is that not enough for a trial to happen?

 

And if a trial did happen, there is a person who was on the phone with Trayvon at the time of the incident who is willing to testify that she heard Zimmerman approach him and a scuffle ensue. Or have we all determined that piece of evidence is irrelevant?

 

Apparently the investigator who interviewed Zimmerman after the incident agrees because he recommended he be charged, but the DA and the police chief decided not to.

 

Also considering that we didn't hear a peep about this until weeks after it happened when the parents called the NAACP because they were infuriated that no charges had been filed, all of this could have been avoided if they just charged Zimmerman for killing an unarmed teenager. Now there is no way Zimmerman will get a fair trial. Additional violence will certainly occur. And Zimmerman will probably have to be put in protective custody if he is eventually found innocent. The whole situation is a mess and it is still my opinion that based on all the FACTS, that it could have been avoided if Zimmerman was arrested and charged. I am unaware that a guy saying he killed someone in self defense is enough in this country to get off scott free after killing someone under questionable circumstances. And if there is some whacked out law in Florida that makes that not possible, it is my opinion that law is focked up.

 

And maybe there is something in me that is appalled by this tragedy because a kid was killed. I would imagine that had the circumstances been exactly the same and the kid was yours, you would also be appalled at the chain of events and not be willing to say.... meh... he was a trouble maker. He probably deserved it. Let's move on.

 

So Zimmerman is a "psychopath" now?

[nikki2200 4]

Why didn't you help me with my outrage color matrix I was building. Maybe you can now.

 

What about Indian (as in middle east). White or Black? TIA

 

Indians aren't from the Middle East. OMFG.

 

However I'm not sure if they count as Asians or if they are just considered Indian. They are not white however because they are not of European descent.

[nikki2200 4]

So Zimmerman is a "psychopath" now?

 

Someone who has called the police 50 times in the past year to report suspicious people in the neighborhood, including a 7 year old, has assaulted a police officer, has a restraining order against him by his ex-girlfriend, and decided to take the law into his own hands and get a gun and follow a teenager walking down the street thinking he is batman or something, in my mind is a psychopath. Yes.

[KSB2424 3,174]

Indians aren't from the Middle East. OMFG.

 

However I'm not sure if they count as Asians or if they are just considered Indian. They are not white however because they are not of European descent.

I've been to Hyderabad, India. You? It's a nice place.

 

Also, help me out here. A black person who's parents come from Jaimaica. African American?

 

A white due who's parents moved to Philadelphia form South Africa before he was born. African American?

 

TIA

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,433]

Someone who has called the police 50 times in the past year to report suspicious people in the neighborhood, including a 7 year old, has assaulted a police officer, has a restraining order against him by his ex-girlfriend, and decided to take the law into his own hands and get a gun and follow a teenager walking down the street thinking he is batman or something, in my mind is a psychopath. Yes.

 

Oh, like you have not had at least 3 of these types show up as blind dates before.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,433]

I've been to Hyderabad, India. You?

 

Hey, Hadji. Cut the chit-chat and get me my curry chicken.

[TimmySmith 2,783]

Someone who has called the police 50 times in the past year to report suspicious people in the neighborhood, including a 7 year old, has assaulted a police officer, has a restraining order against him by his ex-girlfriend, and decided to take the law into his own hands and get a gun and follow a teenager walking down the street thinking he is batman or something, in my mind is a psychopath. Yes.

You ever considered that it was the perfect storm of what you mentioned + plus a young kid full of attitude with a recent history of rebellion. Zimmerman had never shot anyone before, doctor, despite his "psychosis".

[DankNuggs 305]

Obama is half white, half black.

 

Zimmerman is all white because Hispanics are focking white. I'm not going to get into this again. Just because you don't like them, does not make them not white. Hispanic is an ethnicity within the white race. Just like I am Italian and you are Polish, but still white. Get it?

LOL... crazy talk, latino has always been an ethnicity... According to you, the only minorities are black... why call them minorties then if blacks have a monopoly on it?

 

Blow my mind people are arguing that hispanic is now white, just to futher some hell bent race angle... Its not about race, Zimmerman called the cops 40+ times for suspicious activity and had stopped a number of attempted break ins..

 

1.) this is NOT a good neighborhood

2.) crime is prevalent

3.) the kid was bashing the dudes head into the pavement

 

the case is based on facts that haven't been released, its ALL stupid, unfounded conjecture. All assumption and guesstimation...

[phillybear 366]

Obama is half white, half black.

 

Zimmerman is all white because Hispanics are focking white. I'm not going to get into this again. Just because you don't like them, does not make them not white. Hispanic is an ethnicity within the white race. Just like I am Italian and you are Polish, but still white. Get it?

 

As a person that has done statistical analysis on such topics as ethnicity, the main categories tend to be:

 

African American

Asian/Pacific Islander

Caucasian

Latino/a

Native American/Inuit

Other

 

At no point are Latino/a's considered white. If anything, there is a subgroup of "People of Color" which would include everybody other than "Caucasian" and "Other". Logically, don't you think it would be retarded for anybody to consider the 2nd largest ethnicity group in the country as the same as the first? That makes any information gathering nearly irrelevant if one group accounts roughly 80% of the entire pie.

 

FACE.

[Phurfur 70]

I think Obama should call me and apologize for me being called a slvt simply because I am expressing my views on something.

 

Sorry, but as always you are just regurgitating someone else's view.

[nikki2200 4]

I've been to Hyderabad, India. You? It's a nice place.

 

Also, help me out here. A black person who's parents come from Jaimaica. African American?

 

A white due who's parents moved to Philadelphia before he was born. African American?

 

TIA

 

No. I have not been to Hyderabad. I don't think that fact makes it anymore likely that India is considered a Middle Eastern country.

 

 

I call black people black. You may have to ask peenie when they should be called African American. But didn't even the Jamaicans all originate from Africa at some point?

 

I would also like to discuss the case of Trayvon Martin in this thread. If you want to start a thread about where we all came from and what to call them, I will answer you there.

[MDC 8,084]

Sorry, but as always you are just regurgitating someone else's view.

 

It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation.

 

- Herman Melville

 

[nikki2200 4]

As a person that has done statistical analysis on such topics as ethnicity, the main categories tend to be:

 

African American

Asian/Pacific Islander

Caucasian

Latino/a

Native American/Inuit

Other

 

At no point are Latino/a's considered white. If anything, there is a subgroup of "People of Color" which would include everybody other than "Caucasian" and "Other". Logically, don't you think it would be retarded for anybody to consider the 2nd largest ethnicity group in the country as the same as the first? That makes any information gathering nearly irrelevant if one group accounts roughly 80% of the entire pie.

 

FACE.

 

The US Census considers them white you focking mongloid. And then there is a sub-category for Hispanics. But they are counted as WHITE. Are people from Spain not white?

[DankNuggs 305]

No. I have not been to Hyderabad. I don't think that fact makes it anymore likely that India is considered a Middle Eastern country.

 

 

I call black people black. You may have to ask peenie when they should be called African American. But didn't even the Jamaicans all originate from Africa at some point?

 

I would also like to discuss the case of Trayvon Martin in this thread. If you want to start a thread about where we all came from and what to call them, I will answer you there.

The basis of your case is that racial prejudices fueled a raging psychopath to kill a black guy in the name of the white race... Now his bigoted psychopath tutors black struggling students on the weekends and has had his black neighbors vouch for his tolerance and kind heartedness...

 

 

the case of Trayvon won't move forward until the evidence in the case is released, until then its just race biting and retardedness. carry on.

[nikki2200 4]

Sorry, but as always you are just regurgitating someone else's view.

 

Whose?

[Vikings4ever 570]

That'll help the cause

 

MIAMI -- North Miami Beach Police are investigating after a group of high school students who walked out of school in protest of the Trayvon Martin shooting were caught on video ransacking a drug store last week.

 

The incident happened shortly before 11 a.m. Friday at the Walgreens at 1501 Northeast 163rd Street, minutes after between 400-500 North Miami Beach Senior High students walked out to protest the 17-year-old's shooting death in Sanford.

 

According to North Miami Beach Police, the protest was mostly peaceful and orderly with the exception of the 80-100 students who flooded into the Walgreen's store, ransacking shelving displays and breaking merchandise.

[nikki2200 4]

The basis of your case is that racial prejudices fueled a raging psychopath to kill a black guy in the name of the white race... Now his bigoted psychopath tutors black struggling students on the weekends and has had his black neighbors vouch for his tolerance and kind heartedness...

 

 

the case of Trayvon won't move forward until the evidence in the case is released, until then its just race biting and retardedness. carry on.

 

Oh really? So the basis of my case is that Zimmerman is a racist? So anyone who thinks that Zimmerman should have to stand trial for killing an unarmed teenager thinks so because they believe this was a racist hate crime?

 

For people that like to blame others for jumping to conclusions, you are making some giant leaps there.

 

 

I swear sometimes I come here and I can't believe I live on the same planet as some of you people.

[BudBro 185]

Obama is half white, half black.

 

nope, not now, he's been black all along...you can't use the white part of him now to justify fake outrage. latinos aren't from poland or germany or switzerland or old york. nope.

[KSB2424 3,174]

The US Census considers them white you focking mongloid. And then there is a sub-category for Hispanics. But they are counted as WHITE. Are people from Spain not white?

NewbieJr is from bumfock Penslyvania and he's considred Orange.

 

Whats your point?

[DankNuggs 305]

Oh really? So the basis of my case is that Zimmerman is a racist? So anyone who thinks that Zimmerman should have to stand trial for killing an unarmed teenager thinks so because they believe this was a racist hate crime?

 

For people that like to blame others for jumping to conclusions, you are making some giant leaps there.

 

 

I swear sometimes I come here and I can't believe I live on the same planet as some of you people.

you called his a psychopath... there are scenarios for him being 100% innocent, to 100% guily and all inbetween... it has nothing to do with race. He should stand trial if there is cause for him to stand trial based on the investigation... Thats how the system works.

[phillybear 366]

The US Census considers them white you focking mongloid. And then there is a sub-category for Hispanics. But they are counted as WHITE. Are people from Spain not white?

 

The U.S. government does not consider them white. I submit info to them constantly. People from Mexico, South American, Central America, the Caribbean, among other places are not focking white, you numbskull. Please, stop. You are making an ass out of yourself.

 

The census can go sit on a traffic cone and spin. It's worthless.

[phillybear 366]

This is the new torridjoe moment. Being in this country illegally is not a crime.

[KSB2424 3,174]

What about the albinos? If an albino kills a black guy is that a hate crime or black on black crime?

 

I'm so confused.