jerryskids 6,926 Posted April 30, 2015 and still hired me Don't forget to play Rock Lobster. It's a real song. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,087 Posted April 30, 2015 We have our first gay Geek marriage. Tantastic is marrying Adam Ant! Don't worry Ed will play Goody Two Shoes a LOT! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 519 Posted April 30, 2015 I'm for it. Plus it Could be a good thing as it will maybe become a non-issue and social conservatives will have one less ridiculous issue to demand of their candidates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted April 30, 2015 I'm for it. Plus it Could be a good thing as it will maybe become a non-issue and social conservatives will have one less ridiculous issue to demand of their candidates. Unless they do something really stupid like run on a platform of amending the constitution Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,252 Posted April 30, 2015 I am friends with a gay couple that has been married for years. If you put 100 people in a room and asked which were gay I assure you that no one would pick these guys. They both look like Vikings.....and not the Adrian Peterson beating his kid type of Viking the Pillage rape and burn type. Nicest guys you would ever want to meet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,363 Posted April 30, 2015 I've been out of the country the last 13 years so this whole gay phenomenon has passed me by and I'm happy about that. My attitude is do what you want. I don't have a right to tell other people how they should live their lives. I don't mind that they win all these rights, OK fine. If you act normal in public I can be your friend. But don't put any of this gay stuff in my face, please (now I like lesbian pron with hot chicks but I can't stand seeing the scary ogre-ette lesbians that filed the Michigan gay marriage lawsuit even holding hands). I don't have religious objections, I hate religion. It just really, truly does disgust me. I probably couldn't DJ a gay wedding. I sure as heck couldn't photograph one. Now, what I could do... I could bake a cake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 1,001 Posted April 30, 2015 In 50 years the gay marriage opposition will look as bigoted as the inter-racial marriage opposition with similar antiquated "ain't natural" arguments. It's only weird because it's new. However, I am opposed to gay adoption. Need generations of science before I sign off on that because my guess it's detrimental. I also think churches look ridiculous marrying gay couples after 2,000+ years of calling it a horrible sin. I'm not even religious, but churches who do that should lose their entire congregations. How does the church keep any credibility after that flip-flop? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,563 Posted April 30, 2015 We have our first gay Geek marriage. Tantastic is marrying Adam Ant! Don't worry Ed will play Goody Two Shoes a LOT! I fuckin hate you right now, parrot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,563 Posted April 30, 2015 Sorry. The term marriage is the union between a man and a woman Why can't the gheys just accept that and move on? You want the same tax benefits? No problem. Yes, we know...You're here, your queer. Fine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,926 Posted April 30, 2015 In 50 years the gay marriage opposition will look as bigoted as the inter-racial marriage opposition with similar antiquated "ain't natural" arguments. It's only weird because it's new. However, I am opposed to gay adoption. Need generations of science before I sign off on that because my guess it's detrimental. I also think churches look ridiculous marrying gay couples after 2,000+ years of calling it a horrible sin. I'm not even religious, but churches who do that should lose their entire congregations. How does the church keep any credibility after that flip-flop? I struggle a little with ghey adoption, and have settled on that it is only relevant as a tie-breaker with a comparable hetero couple. Our new governor, Doug Ducey, just re-enabled such adoption -- I absolutely love this guy (not in a ghey way); he is the former CEO of Cold Stone Creamery and is a total problem solver. Married same-sex couples will be allowed to adopt and foster Arizona children together, effective immediately, according to a statement Gov. Doug Ducey issued Wednesday night. The statement came shortly after Ducey and his administration learned the Arizona Department of Child Safety in early February had ordered its staff to halt joint foster care licenses and adoptions for same-sex couples. "With 17,000 children under the state's care, we need more adoption in Arizona, not less. That's why I feel strongly – as I have said many times before – that all loving families should be able to serve as foster parents and adopt," Ducey said in his statement. "Practices have been brought to my attention that do not match those priorities, therefore, I'm instructing the Arizona Department of Child Safety to immediately ensure that all legally married couples in Arizona are able to jointly serve as foster parents and adopt. All children deserve a loving home, and under my watch, I'm committed to making sure government encourages that." http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/arizona/politics/2015/04/23/arizona-sex-couples-can-adopt-foster-together/26224297/ I'd rather a kid in the care of a loving ghey couple than in the loveless state system, not to mention the reduced tax burden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,363 Posted April 30, 2015 In 50 years the gay marriage opposition will look as bigoted as the inter-racial marriage opposition with similar antiquated "ain't natural" arguments. It's only weird because it's new. However, I am opposed to gay adoption. Need generations of science before I sign off on that because my guess it's detrimental. I also think churches look ridiculous marrying gay couples after 2,000+ years of calling it a horrible sin. I'm not even religious, but churches who do that should lose their entire congregations. How does the church keep any credibility after that flip-flop? Maybe you're right. I didn't grow up around gay people and it was always weird and strange. Like some cr@p they did in San Francisco. Most of them were probably just pretending and they'd probably get over it at some point. Or maybe it was a psychological problem. I never gave them much thought. Then when they first started complaining about wanting more rights, it was hard to take them seriously. It was like 'do what you want in private, I don't care about your weird lifestyle choices, just keep your creepy ass quiet and don't let the children see you (or me I don't want to see it either).' I did appreciate that they got the evangelicals to hate them in a sort of 'enemy of my enemy' way. I still like gays more than evangelicals. Then marriage, well, I don't have a right to tell you what to do. Now they want to take over the parades so they can have the freaks strut around in front of everybody's kids. Can't they just declare victory and stop? I mean they still and always will disgust me but I'm more likely to warm and support them better if they're not shoving their pen*ses in everybody's face all the time. China sure has many shortcomings as a place to raise my kids. I have to deal with that. One thing I'm grateful for is this lack of gayness everywhere that's taking over the US. Gays here aren't everywhere, they keep to themselves and behave like everybody else in public, like they use to do in the US when I was growing up. As for churches some support gay marriage, most some don't. It's up to them. Each denomination is different and even inside a denomination there are differences of opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,252 Posted April 30, 2015 In 50 years the gay marriage opposition will look as bigoted as the inter-racial marriage opposition with similar antiquated "ain't natural" arguments. It's only weird because it's new However, I am opposed to gay adoption. Need generations of science before I sign off on that because my guess it's detrimental. I also think churches look ridiculous marrying gay couples after 2,000+ years of calling it a horrible sin. I'm not even religious, but churches who do that should lose their entire congregations. How does the church keep any credibility after that flip-flop? Why the struggle with gay adoption? 40k kids are placed in foster care every year. Guess how many of those were placed there by gay parents being pieces of shitt? You worried that gay parents who go through the process to get a child will somehow abuse the kid in some...gay way? That happens every day to foster kids on straight people's homes. We are left with the big one. What if the gay parents make the adopted kids gay? Kinda like a white couple adopting a black baby and turning him white. That shitt happens all the time. It's called michaeljacksonitus. My Viking friends have 2 of the most well rounded kids I have ever seen and you know why they know for sure their dads love them? Because instead of being a mistake the kids are a blessing. Something they had to move out of state for. In 50 years our kids will look at a time when we legislated someone's sexual orientation the same as prohibition of alcohol or Jim Crow laws. Something that simply does not make sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted April 30, 2015 As long as all of this doesn't also include the 'state' forcing an entity (business, church, individual) to do something against their will then I'm all for ghey marriage. Bob and Bill can go get married and live unhappily ever after all they want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,332 Posted April 30, 2015 Get ready Geeks, the Supreme Court is going to hold that the Constitution requires that gays can marry. Will be a 6-3 decision. Kennedy and the libs, with Roberts concurring. I think you are wrong. Roberts won't join. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,332 Posted April 30, 2015 As long as all of this doesn't also include the 'state' forcing an entity (business, church, individual) to do something against their will then I'm all for ghey marriage. Bob and Bill can go get married and live unhappily ever after all they want. It's called the first amendment(church) and that's not what this is about, never was. As far as business...business can't discriminate based on sex or race, but you feel it's okay to discriminate based on sexual preference, yeah okay, sorry, not really a protected right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted April 30, 2015 As long as all of this doesn't also include the 'state' forcing an entity (business, church, individual) to do something against their will then I'm all for ghey marriage. Bob and Bill can go get married and live unhappily ever after all they want.Can you give examples of what 'forced' things you're talking about regarding business, church, individual? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,683 Posted April 30, 2015 Until there is a federal mandate to demand bakery's bake gay cakes, this battle isn't over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted April 30, 2015 Until there is a federal mandate to demand bakery's bake gay cakes, this battle isn't overIt'll all iron itself out. LOng after slavery was abolished, there were still ignorant people not allowing blacks to use 'white' drinking fountains. It takes time. Eventually, being a bigot is so frowned upon that even the most neanderthalic people come around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfreak 84 Posted April 30, 2015 Can you give examples of what 'forced' things you're talking about regarding business, church, individual?this right here is the center of the debate what does it look like to force another persons lifestyle choice(s) upon a business Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted April 30, 2015 I've been out of the country the last 13 years so this whole gay phenomenon has passed me by and I'm happy about that. My attitude is do what you want. I don't have a right to tell other people how they should live their lives. I don't mind that they win all these rights, OK fine. If you act normal in public I can be your friend. But don't put any of this gay stuff in my face, please (now I like lesbian pron with hot chicks but I can't stand seeing the scary ogre-ette lesbians that filed the Michigan gay marriage lawsuit even holding hands). I don't have religious objections, I hate religion. It just really, truly does disgust me. I probably couldn't DJ a gay wedding. I sure as heck couldn't photograph one. Now, what I could do... I could bake a cake. My response to this would be if you don't want to see something, don't look. I'm sure that it's not that difficult to get through each and every day without having any "gay stuff" being put in your face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 893 Posted April 30, 2015 will they then stop with their perverted parades, forcing their agenda on kindergarteners, intolerance towards people who think marriage is a union between man & woman, etc? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,683 Posted April 30, 2015 you know what else is coming? me thinking about gay marriage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,683 Posted April 30, 2015 will they then stop with their perverted parades, forcing their agenda on kindergarteners, intolerance towards people who think marriage is a union between man & woman, etc? I think my grandparents having sex is disgusting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted April 30, 2015 In 50 years the gay marriage opposition will look as bigoted as the inter-racial marriage opposition with similar antiquated "ain't natural" arguments. It's only weird because it's new. However, I am opposed to gay adoption. Need generations of science before I sign off on that because my guess it's detrimental. I also think churches look ridiculous marrying gay couples after 2,000+ years of calling it a horrible sin. I'm not even religious, but churches who do that should lose their entire congregations. How does the church keep any credibility after that flip-flop? What exactly would be detrimental about it in your opinion? There are studies out there right now that have followed kids of gay couples and the general consensus of legitimate research is that there are no ill effects that arise from being raised by gay couples, and in fact, some studies have shown that they actually do better in certain areas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted April 30, 2015 will they then stop with their perverted parades, forcing their agenda on kindergarteners, intolerance towards people who think marriage is a union between man & woman, etc? I love how when anti-gay bigots rant about gays flaunting their sexuality, the first, and generally only thing they reference is parades. You going to so many parades that it's impossible to avoid the gays, porky? I went to one parade last year, and it was boring as fock. It probably could have used a few dudes in banana hammocks to liven it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 893 Posted April 30, 2015 I love how when anti-gay bigots rant about gays flaunting their sexuality, the first, and generally only thing they reference is parades. You going to so many parades that it's impossible to avoid the gays, porky? I went to one parade last year, and it was boring as fock. It probably could have used a few dudes in banana hammocks to liven it up. i love when diverse tolerant gay lovers use derogatory gay slurs and insults. how LGBT night at the ballparks all over the country? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted April 30, 2015 As long as all of this doesn't also include the 'state' forcing an entity (business, church, individual) to do something against their will then I'm all for ghey marriage. Yeah I hate it when "the state" forces lunch counters to serve blacks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted April 30, 2015 i love when diverse tolerant gay lovers use derogatory gay slurs and insults. how LGBT night at the ballparks all over the country? Which gay slur did I use on you, Mr. Sensitive? Is someone forcing you or anyone to go to LGBT night at the ballpark? No? Then they're not putting it in your face. But I get it. Baseball is "America's Past-time", and those stinking gays are taking it over (for one game), therefore they're ruining America. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted April 30, 2015 If the only topic or question is "Should the government allow same sex marraiges" my answer is .......Sure, of course. It's why I voted for Ghey Marraige in my state a few years ago when it was on the ballot. If we could go back in time and get gov't totally out of the marraige business I'd do that first, but that would take a time machine. So since we cannot unweave that web, since gov't is in the marraige business and thats the reality, then gheys should also have the right. My only concern is what happens next. How far will the "gov't in the marraige business" go. I simply think the Freedom of Religion trumps any effort to make ghey marraige and the ceremony of it "protected". As in a church, private business or even an individual would face a fine, penalty ,or crime by expressing their religious freedom. I'm all for Ghey Marraige, I'm also all for Freedom of Religion. In the eyes of the state (gov't) they should be able to coexist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted April 30, 2015 will they then stop with their perverted parades, forcing their agenda on kindergarteners, intolerance towards people who think marriage is a union between man & woman, etc?Where do you live that this sh!t is a problem for you? Once in a blue moon I'll see a male couple walking in the mall or two chicks holding hands at a wine festival. My town doesn't have a gay pride parade, but if they did, I simply wouldn't go. Life is simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted April 30, 2015 i love when diverse tolerant gay lovers use derogatory gay slurs and insults. how LGBT night at the ballparks all over the country? I can be diverse and tolerant and still think you're a . I fuckin hate you right now, parrot It's only 8:00 and my work here is done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted April 30, 2015 It's only 8:00 and my work here is done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted April 30, 2015 I'd rather a kid in the care of a loving ghey couple than in the loveless state system, not to mention the reduced tax burden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 191 Posted April 30, 2015 If someone in your family was gravely ill and the best Doctor was gay you wouldn't care. If the plane was going down and the only person that could fly it was gay you wouldn't care. If you needed a transplant to live and the donor was gay you wouldn't care. If your house was on fire and the fireman were gay you wouldn't care. There were gay men who strormed the beaches of Normandy and fought at Iwo Jima. There were gay men who fought in the revolutionary war and every war since. Why can't they be happy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted April 30, 2015 If someone in your family was gravely ill and the best Doctor was gay you wouldn't care. If the plane was going down and the only person that could fly it was gay you wouldn't care. If you needed a transplant to live and the donor was gay you wouldn't care. If your house was on fire and the fireman were gay you wouldn't care. There were gay men who strormed the beaches of Normandy and fought at Iwo Jima. There were gay men who fought in the revolutionary war and every war since. Why can't they be happy?The Bible dude. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted April 30, 2015 Sorry. The term marriage is the union between a man and a woman Why can't the gheys just accept that and move on? You want the same tax benefits? No problem. Yes, we know...You're here, your queer. Fine Why is that term such a big deal? Why does calling it a marriage for gays matter so much to anyone else? How does it actually affect you or your own marriage? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted April 30, 2015 History will look back and laugh that gays were fighting to get married. An institution making 50% of the people so miserable they divorce, and who knows what % of the other 50% because of what some guy in the clouds told them to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted May 1, 2015 History will look back and laugh that gays were fighting to get married. An institution making 50% of the people so miserable they divorce, and who knows what % of the other 50% because of what some guy in the clouds told them to do. Divorce rate is actually considerably lower than 50% these days... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 1,001 Posted May 1, 2015 I'd rather a kid in the care of a loving ghey couple than in the loveless state system, not to mention the reduced tax burden. That's the main argument for allowing gay couples to adopt. "It may, or may not be detrimental to the kid, but it beats the alternative - unqualified parents or state child care." If gays were only allowed to adopt unwanted kids (mental and health problems), I'd support that theory. But equal footing with heteros for healthy young babies? Even if it turns out after a 100+ years of study on the various generations that follow there's no mental problems (which hasn't happened yet), isn't there still something to be said for putting kids in an environment that many (possibly most) will undoubtedly be ashamed/embarrassed about throughout childhood and beyond? I'm not on board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,590 Posted May 1, 2015 Divorce rate is actually considerably lower than 50% these days... No doubt due to financial burdens and the fact that people get married significantly later in life than they used to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
