Voltaire 5,317 Posted May 12, 2016 The way I see it, Trump can only win a plurality not a majority of Republican voters. How is he going to win a majority of all voters, when he can't even win a majority of Republicans alone? I've been voting Dem over the years and will swing over to him, but it seems to me that a lot more are heading for the exits than coming in. It's why I took BLS's bet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,491 Posted May 13, 2016 The way I see it, Trump can only win a plurality not a majority of Republican voters. How is he going to win a majority of all voters? I've been voting Dem over the years and will swing over to him, but it seems a lot more are heading for the exits than coming in. It's why I took BLS's bet. Trump is on pace for the most votes ever in a republican primary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,317 Posted May 13, 2016 Trump is on pace for the most votes ever in a republican primary. The entire Bushtard/Romney/McConnell/Cayman Islands wing of the party and all their well-placed talking head pundits hate him and are plotting his demise as are the entirety of the Dems machine. Plus he has the inherent GOP disadvantage in Electoral College mapping that make it an uphill fight for any Republican. I know I've been less enthusiastic lately myself with dumb comments, of course that's nothing new either. Nothing has been worse than what's already out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted May 13, 2016 talking to my mom and brother about the bet. they said they'd like to bet me too because trump is going to win and what planet have i been on to think hillary will win. i'm like, what?? women and minorities don't like trump. they're like, yes they do! i'm like, he's not presidential! they said, that's what people like about him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted May 13, 2016 The entire Bushtard/Romney/McConnell/Cayman Islands wing of the party and all their well-placed talking head pundits hate him and are plotting his demise as are the entirety of the Dems machine. Plus he has the inherent GOP disadvantage in Electoral College mapping that make it an uphill fight for any Republican. I know I've been less enthusiastic lately myself with dumb comments, of course that's nothing new either. Nothing has been worse than what's already out there. GOP will come around. Hell it could just be a plot, like "hey we decided he's OK after all, so don't worry you can vote for him." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,491 Posted May 13, 2016 The GOP has to worry about the down ballot races. They have to support him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,317 Posted May 13, 2016 I'd really like to see him tie in with Gigrich or Kasich - 90s Republicans who are budget hawks - than any of these Bushtard era deficit exploding nationbuilders. You have to figure the VP will be super important seeing as if by some miracle he wins, he'd need somebody with a clue to help him out. For how bad he is, the Republican apple cart needs to be overturned. If he doesn't succeed the Ryan/McConnell people will be trying to put the pieces back together of all the big money donor priorities with the militarists. If Trump wins, he'll reshape the party. If he loses, Congress is full of Bushtarded fellow travelers and enablers anxious to reassert control away from the masses back home and towards their corporate paymasters. Trump is deeply flawed but he's also maybe the only chance we'll ever get to get things right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted May 13, 2016 I'd really like to see him tie in with Gigrich or Kasich - 90s Republicans who are budget hawks - than any of these Bushtard era deficit exploding nationbuilders. You have to figure the VP will be super important seeing as if by some miracle he wins, he'd need somebody with a clue to help him out. For how bad he is, the Republican apple cart needs to be overturned. If he doesn't succeed the Ryan/McConnell people will be trying to put the pieces back together of all the big money donor priorities with the militarists. If Trump wins, he'll reshape the party. If he loses, Congress is full of Bushtarded fellow travelers and enablers anxious to reassert control away from the masses back home and towards their corporate paymasters. Trump is deeply flawed but he's also maybe the only chance we'll ever get to get things right. Cool story bro. What does Xi Jinping think about it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted May 13, 2016 I'd really like to see him tie in with Gigrich or Kasich - 90s Republicans who are budget hawks - than any of these Bushtard era deficit exploding nationbuilders. You have to figure the VP will be super important seeing as if by some miracle he wins, he'd need somebody with a clue to help him out. For how bad he is, the Republican apple cart needs to be overturned. If he doesn't succeed the Ryan/McConnell people will be trying to put the pieces back together of all the big money donor priorities with the militarists. If Trump wins, he'll reshape the party. If he loses, Congress is full of Bushtarded fellow travelers and enablers anxious to reassert control away from the masses back home and towards their corporate paymasters. Trump is deeply flawed but he's also maybe the only chance we'll ever get to get things right. Trump is a charlatan and a fraud. Now maybe you don't care since you're way the Fock over in China anyways, but I sure as Fock don't think the American people should be electing such a person to the highest office in the land Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetdoc 20 Posted May 19, 2016 Trump leading Clinton in two major polls. This website's hits just increased 1000%... http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/become.asp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted May 19, 2016 Trump leading Clinton in two major polls. This website's hits just increased 1000%... http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/become.asp I have been telling people, it will just take one little scandal or revelation about Hilary to start shifting the pendulum the other way. I cant wait to see what Trumps team digs up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted May 19, 2016 I was wondering why hoyty stopped giving us the daily poll numbers.. Kind of funny how that works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,498 Posted May 19, 2016 talking to my mom and brother about the bet. they said they'd like to bet me too because trump is going to win and what planet have i been on to think hillary will win. i'm like, what?? women and minorities don't like trump. they're like, yes they do! i'm like, he's not presidential! they said, that's what people like about him. i am a woman (not a minority), and I'd vote Trump before Hillary or Bernie. I've felt that way since the start. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted May 19, 2016 I was wondering why hoyty stopped giving us the daily poll numbers.. Kind of funny how that works. Because people like you are too stupid to realize that you need to look at polls in the aggregate, not single ones that favor your guy. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted May 19, 2016 Because people like you are too stupid to realize that you need to look at polls in the aggregate, not single ones that favor your guy. HTH So, that's why you stopped updating us, because I'm too busy cherry picking polls? Really, that's why you stopped... You are such a dipsh!t.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted May 19, 2016 So, that's why you stopped updating us, because I'm too busy cherry picking polls? Really, that's why you stopped... You are such a dipsh!t.. Poll averages still show Clinton winning nationally, and in every swing state. You all set? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted May 19, 2016 i am a woman (not a minority), and I'd vote Trump before Hillary or Bernie. I've felt that way since the start. You're pretty right wing though from what I recall. Right wing women are still going to vote for Trump; it's the independents he's going to have to win over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,498 Posted May 19, 2016 You're pretty right wing though from what I recall. Right wing women are still going to vote for Trump; it's the independents he's going to have to win over Actually, I am a registered Independent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted May 19, 2016 I was wondering why hoyty stopped giving us the daily poll numbers.. Kind of funny how that works. Also funny how the right told us how much polls didn't matter. Until now that Trump is even or ahead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted May 19, 2016 Because people like you are too stupid to realize that you need to look at polls in the aggregate, not single ones that favor your guy. HTH You're welcome to put some money on that bravado buddy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,491 Posted May 19, 2016 Actually, I am a registered Independent. To the far left ninnies that are running the Democratic Party now, anyone who doesn't go along with their demands is a right wing loon. Makes it easier for them to be dismissive that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted May 19, 2016 Also funny how the right told us how much polls didn't matter. Until now that Trump is even or ahead. They didn't matter, until there was an actual choice, As sh1tty as it is. The choices were hypothetical, which proved to be useless. That was the point..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted May 19, 2016 They didn't matter, until there was an actual choice, As sh1tty as it is. The choices were hypothetical, which proved to be useless. That was the point..... The choices (in a way) are still hypothetical and polls in aggregate are still more accurate as Hoyt has said. Singular polls taken just after stuff is brought up tend to be outliers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted May 19, 2016 Actually, I am a registered Independent. It doesn't matter what you're registered as, but how you actually think and talk and vote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted May 19, 2016 polls in aggregate are still more accurate as Hoyt has said. Absolutely, this is news to know one. The absurd spreads have disappeared and there is a reason for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,498 Posted May 19, 2016 It doesn't matter what you're registered as, but how you actually think and talk and vote I probably think/talk/vote depending on the issue; there are some things I am probably more right about, then then others I am more left about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted May 19, 2016 You're welcome to put some money on that bravado buddy. It's not bravado fucknuts!!! It's polls!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted May 19, 2016 I probably think/talk/vote depending on the issue; there are some things I am probably more right about, then then others I am more left about. I don't believe you based on your posts here over the years, but there's no sense arguing about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted May 19, 2016 It's not bravado fucknuts!!! It's polls!!!! Then PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS, YOU FUCKIN CUNTWRINKLE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted May 19, 2016 Then PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS, YOU FUCKIN CUNTWRINKLE. I'll try using small words. My mouth isn't anywhere on this. There is a website called realclearpolitics.com that collects poll data. I cited numbers from there. Polls are made by calling people on the phone. I have never taken part in a poll such as this. Do you understand now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted May 19, 2016 CUNTWRINKLE. Nice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted May 20, 2016 I'll try using small words. My mouth isn't anywhere on this. There is a website called realclearpolitics.com that collects poll data. I cited numbers from there. Polls are made by calling people on the phone. I have never taken part in a poll such as this. Do you understand now?did they stop updating, when things started to go against their wishes, like you ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted May 20, 2016 when things started to go against their wishes, like you ? Merely a coincidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,491 Posted May 20, 2016 I'll try using small words. My mouth isn't anywhere on this. There is a website called realclearpolitics.com that collects poll data. I cited numbers from there. Polls are made by calling people on the phone. I have never taken part in a poll such as this. Do you understand now? Post the latest data punk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted May 20, 2016 I'll try using small words. My mouth isn't anywhere on this. There is a website called realclearpolitics.com that collects poll data. I cited numbers from there. Polls are made by calling people on the phone. I have never taken part in a poll such as this. Do you understand now? I understand you're a fluffy-eyed cupcake, who wishes to espouse his superior intellect and sooth-saying abilities to predict the future. I understand you're quite confident Hitlery will win the POTUS, but you're still too goddamned chickenshit to put some money on it. you understand that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted May 23, 2016 Poll averages still show Clinton winning nationally, and in every swing state. You all set? No update today? I'll help ya out.. No longer the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,491 Posted May 23, 2016 Poll averages still show Clinton winning nationally, and in every swing state. You all set? DOH! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,356 Posted May 23, 2016 you know I really didn't think Trump had a chance, but unless Hilary picks Bernie as VP, I think he wins. Bernie is going to get the most write in votes ever, and those that don't probably vote Trump. They hate Hilary more than anyone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted May 23, 2016 you know I really didn't think Trump had a chance, but unless Hilary picks Bernie as VP, I think he wins. Bernie is going to get the most write in votes ever, and those that don't probably vote Trump. They hate Hilary more than anyone He very well could. I underestimated just how bad Hillary was...and just how stupid righty (and other) voters are supporting such a jackwagon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 597 Posted May 23, 2016 He very well could. I underestimated just how bad Hillary was...and just how stupid righty (and other) voters are supporting such a jackwagon. She's horrifically bad, and she should be happy it's Donald trump against her. If it was a candidate that was more established, the dem party would absolutely tell her to go away and make Biden run. Because it's trump is the only reason she will get the nomination. They think that as bad as she is, she could still beat him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites