Moon Landing - Donald Trump WILL be our next President

[edjr 6,602]

 

It WAS the typical rhetoric too. The biggest thing I hate about politics is the pandering.

 

not the idiocy coming from the candidates?

[BLS 314]

 

not the idiocy coming from the candidates?

 

Honestly, the pandering bothers me more because people should be able to tell they're just saying what they want to hear.

And they eat it up. It's sad.

 

Idiocy? That happens in every profession.

[Voltaire 5,317]

Trump was an amusing side show, but the powers that be are going to replace him with Kasich in a brokered convention. Then the real siht show will begin.

Crossing my fingers it works.

[BLS 314]

Crossing my fingers it works.

 

If they put Kasich in, he'll lose by a mile to Hitlery

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

It WAS the typical rhetoric too. The biggest thing I hate about politics is the pandering.

 

Yet, you support Trump who is pandering to the idiots out there (and you fall for it).

[BLS 314]

 

Yet, you support Trump who is pandering to the idiots out there (and you fall for it).

 

They pretty much ALL pander, buddy. Ben Carson and Rand Paul were the only two I saw on stage that didn't pander.

Clinton and Sanders BOTH pander, too.

[hoytdwow 202]

 

If they put Kasich in, he'll lose by a mile to Hitlery

You don't put any stock in current polls that show Kasich is the only one who beats Hillary in the general? If no, I'm curious why.

[Sho Nuff 720]

You don't put any stock in current polls that show Kasich is the only one who beats Hillary in the general? If no, I'm curious why.

 

He thinks Trump is a lock...of course he does not believe in polls, odds, or facts.

[MDC 7,470]

You don't put any stock in current polls that show Kasich is the only one who beats Hillary in the general? If no, I'm curious why.

I don't put a lot of stock into speculative polls. I think Hillary would kill Kasich on his pro life record.

[hoytdwow 202]

I don't put a lot of stock into speculative polls. I think Hillary would kill Kasich on his pro life record.

I don't think it's really speculative...they call real people and ask, who would you vote for between Hillary and Kasich. And more people say Kasich.

 

If it was speculative, they'd call people up and say, who do you think will win the nominations?

[MDC 7,470]

I don't think it's really speculative...they call real people and ask, who would you vote for between Hillary and Kasich. And more people say Kasich.

 

If it was speculative, they'd call people up and say, who do you think will win the nominations?

What I mean is I don't out a lot of stock into polls about hypothetical matchups, since respondents likely have not researched the candidates to the degree that they might if it was an actual matchup.

[hoytdwow 202]

What I mean is I don't out a lot of stock into polls about hypothetical matchups, since respondents likely have not researched the candidates to the degree that they might if it was an actual matchup.

fair enough.

 

Here's an interesting tidbit from realclearpolitics.com:

 

Trump and Clinton top the “no way” list as 54 percent of American voters say they “would definitely not” vote for Trump, with 43 percent saying no to Clinton, 33 percent nixing Cruz, 27 percent saying no to Sanders and 14 percent saying no to Kasich.

[TD Ryan2 316]

I freely admit that at first i kinda enjoyed it all. The media squirming, the political establishment stomping their feet the holding their breath...ALL of the crying and moaning, just very gratifying.

 

That was enjoyed with some expectation that this would have all ended some time ago, and that reason would eventually prevail.

 

What I am left with is this notion that there are many people out there who are allowing emotion to dictate where logic should prevail. The Trump movement is really no better than BLM, or the KKK, or any other group based on illogical and a sick mentality.

good post Ray.

As I've said, Trump is a "guilty pleasure" for me - for many of the reason you stated above.

But he's not a legit answer - he is the crowd-mentality being given governing power - it's the mentality of lynch-mobs and pitchforks - and while it feels good at the time to hit back, to let your anger and frustration flow and react to the bubbling emotions - it's just not level headed, it's not right, it's not responsible, and it won't be an effective way to solve any of these problems in the long term.

[BLS 314]

You don't put any stock in current polls that show Kasich is the only one who beats Hillary in the general? If no, I'm curious why.

 

Yes, I put some stock in it. You have to.

But I do believe there are a lot of new or unregistered voters that are coming out to vote for Trump. This stems from the fact that voting has been up over the last election cycle; in some places by 100%. Those polls don't reflect new/party change voters and that does skew the numbers a bit.

 

Personally, I believe Trump will win the delegates needed to secure the nomination.

It's clear Hillary will win the nomination. So with that being said it seems like Trump vs. Hillary.

 

Many people (not all, by any stretch) are unhappy with Obama and the Democrats. (I think the same can be said for both sides, for the record)

Hillary represents (IMO) another Obama term. Trump does have his retractors, no doubt. But I believe when you put up the two of them side by side, he'll destroy her because of her terrible record/scandals (emails, Benghazi, etc).

 

Now if Hillary has a bunch of dirt on Trump (which could be possible), then I don't know. But from what I can see, Trump should have a very good chance of beating her.

 

I don't know what every Republican thinks, just like I don't know what every Democrat thinks. I can only go by those I talk to and the messageboards I'm on where politics is discussed frequently. Trump has a LOT of support.

 

IF...and that's a big IF...Kasich were to be put up as the nominee because Trump failed to win the delegates necessary, I think you would see some pretty p1ssed off people on the Republican side.

 

I just don't see Kasich getting it.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Trump has so much support he is struggling to gain the nomination before the convention.

He also is polarizing with his unfavorable.

 

People on the right don't like Obama...yet, if he could run, he would easily win a 3rd term.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,484]

I think a lot of people will flip out if they give it to Kasich. He's still finishing behind Rubio in primary's. Probably still won't stop the establishment from doing it, but it may affect turnout.

[hoytdwow 202]

But I believe when you put up the two of them side by side, he'll destroy her because of her terrible record/scandals (emails, Benghazi, etc).

 

 

Fair points, and I get the protest vote aspect of Trump supporters. But what about his childish behavior, general unfitness for the job of president and closet liberal-ness? You don't see these as cause for concern? I mean, he made news for reading a teleprompter. Remember when everyone used to make fun of Obummer for using one?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,484]

Trump has so much support he is struggling to gain the nomination before the convention.

He also is polarizing with his unfavorable.

 

People on the right don't like Obama...yet, if he could run, he would easily win a 3rd term.

Big deal. These tomato cans the right has put up this time are easier than the last ones

[Willis McGahee's Dentist 61]

the Clinton machine will have him killed before they let that happen, just like the hundreds of others who tried to get in their way.

I rarely hope you're right, but from your mouth to God's ears..

[BLS 314]

Fair points, and I get the protest vote aspect of Trump supporters. But what about his childish behavior, general unfitness for the job of president and closet liberal-ness? You don't see these as cause for concern? I mean, he made news for reading a teleprompter. Remember when everyone used to make fun of Obummer for using one?

 

No doubt he's said some stupid things. In face the GOP debates are embarrassing as far as I'm concerned.

Although the last one, he (and the others) were very cordial to each other. But I think that was more Trump being smart and realizing he's winning and he doesn't need to attack anymore. Almost as if, "good race boys, now I need to focus on Hillary". If that was the plan it was pure genius.

 

I don't think he's unfit for office, and I don't care for some of his policies. I also don't necessarily trust him on his word.

However, I do believe he knows how slimy DC is, and knows how to grease the skids from his past dealings. Which would make him capable of dealing with them from a political stance as well.

 

He may very well be the next Reagan. Or Ventura.

 

But no way would I vote for Cruz or Kasich. I'd rather abstain.

[KSB2424 3,148]

Just a point of note when talking about trusting a politician due to lobbyist and special interests.

 

IMO congressmen and senators are much more beholden to them than a Governor or a President. Congress makes the law, they write the laws, they vote to pass the laws. They are the people that an Agriculture lobby or a Big Pharma special interest targets most.

 

Goveners who are running for President, imo, are far less beholden to those groups. It's but one of several reasons I prefer a Governor to a Senator in a Presidential Election. Another reason is they have experience actually running a government entity (state) and all that comes with it.

 

But anyway, I digress...........

[Hardcore troubadour 15,484]

Just a point of note when talking about trusting a politician due to lobbyist and special interests.

 

IMO congressmen and senators are much more beholden to them than a Governor or a President. Congress makes the law, they write the laws, they vote to pass the laws. They are the people that an Agriculture lobby or a Big Pharma special interest targets most.

 

Goveners who are running for President, imo, are far less beholden to those groups. It's but one of several reasons I prefer a Governor to a Senator in a Presidential Election. Another reason is they have experience actually running a government entity (state) and all that comes with it.

 

But anyway, I digress...........

What about congressmen that leave office and take a job with the people they passed laws in favor of?

[drobeski 3,061]

Just a point of note when talking about trusting a politician due to lobbyist and special interests.

 

IMO congressmen and senators are much more beholden to them than a Governor or a President. Congress makes the law, they write the laws, they vote to pass the laws. They are the people that an Agriculture lobby or a Big Pharma special interest targets most.

 

Goveners who are running for President, imo, are far less beholden to those groups. It's but one of several reasons I prefer a Governor to a Senator in a Presidential Election. Another reason is they have experience actually running a government entity (state) and all that comes with it.

 

But anyway, I digress...........

rubio beat Kasich in Arizona you might want to move on

[RLLD 4,242]

rubio beat Kasich in Arizona you might want to move on

 

I saw that, it HAS to be one of the funniest things I have seen in these political peep shows....a guy that had dropped out of the race beats you.....I wonder what he sees when he looks in the mirror now...LMFAO.....

[hoytdwow 202]

 

I saw that, it HAS to be one of the funniest things I have seen in these political peep shows....a guy that had dropped out of the race beats you.....I wonder what he sees when he looks in the mirror now...LMFAO.....

Heard an interview with former AZ governor Jan Brewer last Friday and she said that 70% of people had already voted via mail (i.e., when Rubio was still in). So, that explains that.

[hoytdwow 202]

I opined in another thread some days ago that a Trump nomination would endanger the GOP's congressional majorities (all 435 House seats are up in Nov, and 40 or so Senate seats) since Trump scares sane people, and since he will get creamed by Hillary (even worse if it's Bernie, if you believe the polls)

 

Proof: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-gop--and-its-big-funders--scramble-to-insulate-congress-from-trump/2016/03/23/44b7734c-f10c-11e5-85a6-2132cf446d0a_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_trumpeffect-720pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

 

The behemoth Koch operation — which aims to spend almost $900 million before the November elections — is now considering abandoning Trump as a nominee and focusing its resources on behalf of GOP congressional candidates.

[KSB2424 3,148]

Heard an interview with former AZ governor Jan Brewer last Friday and she said that 70% of people had already voted via mail (i.e., when Rubio was still in). So, that explains that.

 

You'll have to excuse some of them, they don't realize that a large number of people early voted in AZ.

 

And yes, the only actually viable candidate who can beat Hillary will more than likely not be the nominee.

 

Hooray for Hillary. :confetti:

[Sho Nuff 720]

Ronald Brownstein ‏@RonBrownstein 6h6 hours ago

More @realDonaldTrump warning signs: in @CNN poll his unfavorables w/ all reg voters soar to 82% non-white, 79% college grads, 73% women

 

 

Double up your bets with BLS if that is your thing...

[TD Ryan2 316]

 

Double up your bets with BLS if that is your thing...

 

so... if you're black, Hispanic, female, or educated - you are not likely voting for Trump?

this sound about right.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,484]

Outrageous costs of college=less college grads=more Trump voters. The future looks bright.

[edjr 6,602]

that is where BLS is today.

 

pimping himself out to pay his debts

[hoytdwow 202]

 

so... if you're black, Hispanic, female, or educated - you are not likely voting for Trump?

this sound about right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXiK9xas7KU

[vuduchile 1,945]

I just bought the domain rateMrsTrumpsRump.com

[BLS 314]

Anybody else want in on that bet?

[Reality 3,121]

Clean sweep tonight, insane.

[hoytdwow 202]

I like how they called MD with 0% of precincts reporting

[Saint Elistan 106]

I still think we're going to have a four-way race on Election Day.

 

The Conservatives will put forth a challenger to Trump. Sanders could very well run on the Green Party ticket with Jill Stein as VP.

 

...and Sanders will win the Election.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Anybody else want in on that bet?

If you want more action, I'll double down.

[cyclone24 1,913]

Gotta love the old Trump is getting the "stupid" vote argument from the panicked masses.

 

So all of the millions of inner city folks who voted for Obama on the basis of getting free stuff are the smart folks ? Is that the argument ?

Its amazing how the left forgets who and where their voting base is.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

I still think we're going to have a four-way race on Election Day.

 

The Conservatives will put forth a challenger to Trump. Sanders could very well run on the Green Party ticket with Jill Stein as VP.

 

...and Sanders will win the Election.

Pipe dream