Tree of Knowledge 1,993 Posted August 19 7 hours ago, squistion said: No. Sad. Linus finally left the Kappy Pumpkin Patch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,939 Posted August 19 I respect Colin K. for trying to shed light on police brutality. It exists whether you choose to believe it or not. He gave up his career for his beliefs, which I agree with, and there is nothing he could say or do that would satisfy people who refuse to acknowledge racism in the police department. Colin like all of us is flawed. He doesn’t have to be a perfect human being in order to shed light on a national problem. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,203 Posted August 19 34 minutes ago, peenie said: racism Most Police forces especially in Cities are predominantly Blacks. Tell me again how they're racist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,939 Posted August 19 2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Most Police forces especially in Cities are predominantly Blacks. Tell me again how they're racist I believe black police officers can be racist against black people. Listen, I revere the police. My heart drowns in pain for the police working in troubled neighborhoods and for those officers that lose their lives in the line of duty. You can love the police and be critical of them at the same time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,636 Posted August 19 Kaepernicks career was about over when he decided to start kneeling. He’s FOS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,939 Posted August 19 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Kaepernicks career was about over when he decided to start kneeling. He’s FOS I don’t remember the facts but I do think someone pointed out that he only started kneeling when he was getting benched or some such, like he wasn’t playing well. I still respect his decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,636 Posted August 19 Nike gave him 10 million for kneeling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 783 Posted August 19 3 hours ago, peenie said: I believe black police officers can be racist against black people. Listen, I revere the police. My heart drowns in pain for the police working in troubled neighborhoods and for those officers that lose their lives in the line of duty. You can love the police and be critical of them at the same time. But you don't seem to be critical of the culture that breeds the problem of the 13%...... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,348 Posted August 19 3 hours ago, peenie said: I don’t remember the facts but I do think someone pointed out that he only started kneeling when he was getting benched or some such, like he wasn’t playing well. I still respect his decision. Actually he was benched because he was in the last year of a fully guranteed contract (I think, I'm hazy on the specific details but it was discussed numerous time in the PSF Kapernick thread). The 49ers were afraid he would get injured and they would get stuck for the entire amount, so he lost the starting job only until his contract was renegotiated elminating the injury gurantee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,636 Posted August 19 36 minutes ago, squistion said: Actually he was benched because he was in the last year of a fully guranteed contract (I think, I'm hazy on the specific details but it was discussed numerous time in the PSF Kapernick thread). The 49ers were afraid he would get injured and they would get stuck for the entire amount, so he lost the starting job only until his contract was renegotiated elminating the injury gurantee. So he wasn’t benched because he was stinking the joint up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,666 Posted August 19 7 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Nike gave him 10 million for kneeling. Throwsa Parks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,636 Posted August 19 9 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: Throwsa Parks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 293 Posted August 19 Kappy opted out of the last year of his contract with SF. March 1, 2017, SANTA CLARA, Calif. -- For the first time in his NFL career, quarterback Colin Kaepernick will be a free agent. Kaepernick is planning to opt out of the final season of his contract with the San Francisco 49ers on Thursday, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter. The league was notified in a letter sent to all teams by Kaepernick's representation, Select Sports Group. Thursday is the first day Kaepernick can opt out, and he has until the new league year begins March 9 to do it. Kaepernick's contract was originally supposed to keep him with the Niners through 2020, but the team worked with the 29-year-old to revamp it before he reclaimed the starting job in October. As part of the deal's reconfiguration, Kaepernick traded $14.5 million in injury guarantees during the 2017 season for the opportunity to opt out of his deal early and become a free agent. His decision saves the Niners his $14.5 million base salary in 2017 though he will still count nearly $2.5 million in dead money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,749 Posted August 19 9 hours ago, peenie said: I respect Colin K. for trying to shed light on police brutality. It exists whether you choose to believe it or not. He gave up his career for his beliefs, which I agree with, and there is nothing he could say or do that would satisfy people who refuse to acknowledge racism in the police department. Colin like all of us is flawed. He doesn’t have to be a perfect human being in order to shed light on a national problem. The statistics around police brutality against the black population don't support that it's a big enough problem that we need a national crisis. This is how it goes. The race hustlers that make a living convincing you that you need to be pissed off give you vagaries about how police are hunting down black people in the streets, and everyone just takes them at the word for fear of being labeled racist. Like, nah. You're making an accusation. You need to prove that sh¡t with facts and data not some hand wavey BS and anecdotes. Literally 9 unarmed black people a year get killed by police. That is not a systemic problem. His cause is stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,749 Posted August 19 If we care about black lives, we should figure out the biggest threat to black lives and mitigate that. Maybe there are some statistics on leading causes of deaths in the black community. I mean black lives matter, right? Instead of guessing at a problem, why not use data to make informed decisions so we can save black lives, right? Right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,402 Posted August 19 On 8/18/2025 at 6:10 AM, MLCKAA said: In one limited way, I have a shred of respect for it. Kneeling during the anthem is essentially a safe form of protest for the protesters. Take a look back to the 1960’s and understand that the people, white and black, who protested for civil rights actually risked something. Many of them risked their lives. Then compare that with pro athletes kneeling during the anthem and understand that their “protest” was one of the least risky things they could do. If NOTHING ELSE, Kap paid a price for his protest, misguided though it may have been to many people. He could’ve eaten crow and made his way back to the NFL, but he didn’t. I’m sure not saying MLK or Malcolm X or Medgar Evers or Thurgood Marshall would be proud of the guy, but at least he paid a price for his stance which is more than other players were willing to do. if he protested BEFORE HE GOT BENCHED I would agree with you, but he didn't care about police brutality when he was a starter, racism only entered his life after he got benched for a homo named blaine 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,749 Posted August 19 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: if he protested BEFORE HE GOT BENCHED I would agree with you, but he didn't care about police brutality when he was a starter, racism only entered his life after he got benched for a homo named blaine And his female got ahold of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,402 Posted August 19 Just now, nobody said: And his female got ahold of him. religion of peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,749 Posted August 19 There was this phenomenon where I grew up where people would test you just to see if you were a b¡tch. They would see you walking with a walkman or bike or wahtever and be like, "That's a nice walkman or bike or whatever. Let me borrow it." And if you were a b¡tch, they would just take your sh¡t. If you weren't, they'd leave you be. They just wanted to see if you were an easy mark. Will this dude just give it up for free. Complete free roll for them. What all these wokies like gutter and rusty and squisiton and the tims and probably Kaep who got used as a mouthpiece by his female don't realize. This race hustling is the same sh¡t. The hustlers are just trying sh¡t to see who's going to be a b¡tch and just give them sh¡t. It's the same grift. It's just more sophisticated. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLCKAA 586 Posted August 19 1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: if he protested BEFORE HE GOT BENCHED I would agree with you, but he didn't care about police brutality when he was a starter, racism only entered his life after he got benched for a homo named blaine Hmmm. If true, I didn’t know that. I suppose I didn’t follow his career much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,939 Posted August 19 7 hours ago, Nomad99 said: But you don't seem to be critical of the culture that breeds the problem of the 13%...... The answer to every cry of racism isn't, "Well if blacks wouldn't commit so many crimes." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,939 Posted August 19 2 hours ago, Mike Hunt said: Kappy opted out of the last year of his contract with SF. March 1, 2017, SANTA CLARA, Calif. -- For the first time in his NFL career, quarterback Colin Kaepernick will be a free agent. Kaepernick is planning to opt out of the final season of his contract with the San Francisco 49ers on Thursday, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter. The league was notified in a letter sent to all teams by Kaepernick's representation, Select Sports Group. Thursday is the first day Kaepernick can opt out, and he has until the new league year begins March 9 to do it. Kaepernick's contract was originally supposed to keep him with the Niners through 2020, but the team worked with the 29-year-old to revamp it before he reclaimed the starting job in October. As part of the deal's reconfiguration, Kaepernick traded $14.5 million in injury guarantees during the 2017 season for the opportunity to opt out of his deal early and become a free agent. His decision saves the Niners his $14.5 million base salary in 2017 though he will still count nearly $2.5 million in dead money. I don't understand what this means. Is this what happened to Russell Wilson? Meaning, did they bench him for contract reasons, not because he was playing poorly? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 783 Posted August 20 3 hours ago, peenie said: The answer to every cry of racism isn't, "Well if blacks wouldn't commit so many crimes." And it isn't necessarily racism when you bring up the disproportionate behavior of a certain group. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,939 Posted August 20 9 hours ago, Nomad99 said: And it isn't necessarily racism when you bring up the disproportionate behavior of a certain group. Well I didn’t bring it up, we’re discussing Colin K’s kneeling as protest and I simply agree with his decision. Why doesn’t your culture do something about all these mass shootings? Feel free to prove that racial bias, profiling and police brutality doesn’t exist. I didn’t start this thread either. You guys always want to make me out to be racist for pointing out racism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,348 Posted August 20 16 hours ago, Mike Hunt said: Kappy opted out of the last year of his contract with SF. Yes, he did because he was told by the 49ers to opt out of his contract if he wanted to remain with the team or be cut. This has been discussed numerous times in the Kaepernick thread over at the PSF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,636 Posted August 20 6 minutes ago, squistion said: Yes, he did because he was told by the 49ers to opt out of his contract if he wanted to remain with the team or be cut. This has been discussed numerous times in the Kaepernick thread over at the PSF. Because he sucked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 783 Posted August 20 4 hours ago, peenie said: You guys always want to make me out to be racist for pointing out racism. Not the case.....your racism manifests itself by what you point out......AND WHAT YOU AVOID. I looked it up....in 2024...74 unarmed people were killed by police......of that number, 20 were black. MEANWHILE....in Detroit alone, in 2024 there were 203 homicides....THE MAJORITY OF THEM were black on black violence....interestingly, more than 78% of victims of black on black violence KNEW THEIR ATTACKER. SO..there were more black on black homicides IN ONE CITY IN 2024 than there were TOTAL NUMBER OF UNARMED POLICE KILLINGS NATIONWIDE IN 2024 INCLUDING ALL ETHNICITIES. So....back to your racism. You CHOOSE to avoid these issues in favor of FAR LESS IMPACTFUL issues in an attempt to bolster your arguments. You continue to point out smoke where there is no fire all the while "whitewashing" the the alarmingly violent behavior blacks perpetrate on each other on a level of magnitude higher than anyone else. Should I include the percentage of black on white and white on black crime as well? You really can’t be the one throwing eggs and then cry racism...... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,939 Posted August 20 6 hours ago, Nomad99 said: Not the case.....your racism manifests itself by what you point out......AND WHAT YOU AVOID. I looked it up....in 2024...74 unarmed people were killed by police......of that number, 20 were black. MEANWHILE....in Detroit alone, in 2024 there were 203 homicides....THE MAJORITY OF THEM were black on black violence....interestingly, more than 78% of victims of black on black violence KNEW THEIR ATTACKER. SO..there were more black on black homicides IN ONE CITY IN 2024 than there were TOTAL NUMBER OF UNARMED POLICE KILLINGS NATIONWIDE IN 2024 INCLUDING ALL ETHNICITIES. So....back to your racism. You CHOOSE to avoid these issues in favor of FAR LESS IMPACTFUL issues in an attempt to bolster your arguments. You continue to point out smoke where there is no fire all the while "whitewashing" the the alarmingly violent behavior blacks perpetrate on each other on a level of magnitude higher than anyone else. Should I include the percentage of black on white and white on black crime as well? You really can’t be the one throwing eggs and then cry racism...... Okay, well I still support Colin K’s choice to kneel to highlight police brutality even if blacks commit a lot of crime. I think criminals should have the right to a fair trial and not be shot and killed when unarmed or not posing a threat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,636 Posted August 20 Police killings of blacks increased under Biden. Crickets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,939 Posted August 21 Lastly, nothing I’ve ever written has shown I’m racist against anyone. Racism is the belief that one race is superior to others . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,749 Posted August 21 4 hours ago, peenie said: Okay, well I still support Colin K’s choice to kneel to highlight police brutality even if blacks commit a lot of crime. I think criminals should have the right to a fair trial and not be shot and killed when unarmed or not posing a threat. It's like talking to a wall. The guy posts that 20 unarmed black people were killed by police in 2024 and your response implies criminals are being gunned down in the streets by racist police. 20 people... That's not systemic. That's barely a blip in a nation of 330 million people and 40 million black people. You have a better chance of being struck by lightening than being killed by a cop. Is lightening racist too? This is madness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,774 Posted August 21 9 minutes ago, peenie said: Lastly, nothing I’ve ever written has shown I’m racist against anyone. Racism is the belief that one race is superior to others . Exactly. Remember that when you accuse white people of being racist based on some newspaper article. But yes, you are racist. You've demonstrated it forever on this bored. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 783 Posted August 21 9 hours ago, nobody said: It's like talking to a wall. The guy posts that 20 unarmed black people were killed by police in 2024 and your response implies criminals are being gunned down in the streets by racist police. 20 people... That's not systemic. That's barely a blip in a nation of 330 million people and 40 million black people. You have a better chance of being struck by lightening than being killed by a cop. Is lightening racist too? This is madness. This Not only will she not prioritize issues, she won't even acknowledge that it's a huge issue.......but black lives matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,203 Posted August 21 9 hours ago, peenie said: Lastly, nothing I’ve ever written has shown I’m racist against anyone. Racism is the belief that one race is superior to others . Or talking about how much white people are racist?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,939 Posted August 21 5 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: Or talking about how much white people are racist?? Where have I written that white people are racist? You all are some sort of weird projection artists. Please re-read and copy and paste anything that implies that I am racist towards whites. Find the exact post and quote my racist words. Or even if you can't find it, because I do delete a lot, tell me what words I've used to imply that I feel whites are inferior to blacks. If I think whites or you are racist, that doesn't make me racist. Me pointing out that I feel others are unjust doesn't make me unjust. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 783 Posted August 21 2 hours ago, peenie said: Where have I written that white people are racist? You all are some sort of weird projection artists. Please re-read and copy and paste anything that implies that I am racist towards whites. Find the exact post and quote my racist words. Or even if you can't find it, because I do delete a lot, tell me what words I've used to imply that I feel whites are inferior to blacks. If I think whites or you are racist, that doesn't make me racist. Me pointing out that I feel others are unjust doesn't make me unjust. If you aren't racist, you are at least one of the most disingenuous people I've ever had the displeasure of reading their musings....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,774 Posted August 21 2 hours ago, peenie said: Where have I written that white people are racist? You all are some sort of weird projection artists. Please re-read and copy and paste anything that implies that I am racist towards whites. Find the exact post and quote my racist words. Or even if you can't find it, because I do delete a lot, tell me what words I've used to imply that I feel whites are inferior to blacks. If I think whites or you are racist, that doesn't make me racist. Me pointing out that I feel others are unjust doesn't make me unjust. You have literally called me racist for saying I found a specific AA woman hot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,749 Posted August 22 5 hours ago, peenie said: If I think whites or you are racist, that doesn't make me racist. Me pointing out that I feel others are unjust doesn't make me unjust. If you think "whites are racist" that's pretty racist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,274 Posted August 22 3 hours ago, Strike said: You have literally called me racist for saying I found a specific AA woman hot. She thought you were racist for finding a woman on American Airlines hot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,846 Posted August 22 On 8/19/2025 at 6:59 AM, peenie said: I respect Colin K. for trying to shed light on police brutality. It exists whether you choose to believe it or not. He gave up his career for his beliefs, which I agree with, and there is nothing he could say or do that would satisfy people who refuse to acknowledge racism in the police department. Colin like all of us is flawed. He doesn’t have to be a perfect human being in order to shed light on a national problem. Colin is a moron. Forget the issue for a moment, because the way he went about it pretty much ensured no one would talk about the issue. of course, racism exists in some police departments, just as it exists in lots of "departments" and just as it exists against blacks, whites, asians, etc. The problem with Colin is that he chose to "bring awareness" by disrespecting the flag and service men and women of the country he lives in that allow him the freedoms to play football for millions of dollars. By doing this, the narrative became about what he did and how he did it rather than why he did it. There were so many other ways he could have gone about using his celebrity status to raise awareness for an issue. He could have spoke to youth, he could have donated large amounts of money, he could have set up programs (he didn't do any of these things until after the fact). He could have protested by sitting out games, which he never would have done because he would have lost game checks... he wore socks with pigs on them like an idiot. He wasn't black balled by the NFL the way people want to cry about. When you have a job, your actions impact your job... and in his line of work, teams have every right to not want the media distraction that would have come with having someone like that on their team, whose skills are declining anyway, plain and simple. Remember Ray Rice? did he get another shot after his domestic violence incident? Even after he apologized, and took every step to repent and reform? Teams don't want the attention it brings and when your skills are declining, you're SOL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites