Colin Kaepernick is a diick

[Baker Boy 1,688]

Let's talk:

 

Does the actual distribution of police victims confirm the Black Lives Matter allegation that policing is lethally biased? That depends on the benchmark chosen for assessing police actions.

 

Typically, activists and the media measure police actions against population ratios. Given that blacks are 13 percent of the nation’s population, a 26 to 28 percent black share of police gun fatalities looks disproportionate. But policing should be measured against crime rates, not population percentages, because law enforcement today is data-driven. Officers are deployed to where people are most being victimized, and that is primarily in minority neighborhoods.

 

In America’s 75 largest counties, comprising most of the nation’s population, blacks constituted 62 percent of all robbery defendants in 2009, 57 percent of all murder defendants, and 45 percent of all assault defendants — but roughly 15 percent of the population in those counties. In New York, where blacks make up 23 percent of the city’s population, blacks commit three-quarters of all shootings and 70 percent of all robberies, according to victims and witnesses. (Whites, by contrast, commit less than 2 percent of all shootings in New York City and 4 percent of all robberies, though they are nearly 34 percent of the population.)

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/07/18/police-shootings-and-race/?utm_term=.e3d927e1812f

[MDC 7,142]

Yeah. And they are. Wasn't mentioned in previous cycles

Yes they're talking about it in the dumbest way imaginable. Credit Trump with people saying words though, I guess.

[wiffleball 4,788]

Just saw a headline that ESPN (or whomever) isn't going to air the National Anthem for San frans game v. chargers.

[peenie 1,905]

Let's talk:

 

In America’s 75 largest counties, comprising most of the nation’s population, blacks constituted 62 percent of all robbery defendants in 2009, 57 percent of all murder defendants, and 45 percent of all assault defendants — but roughly 15 percent of the population in those counties. In New York, where blacks make up 23 percent of the city’s population, blacks commit three-quarters of all shootings and 70 percent of all robberies, according to victims and witnesses. (Whites, by contrast, commit less than 2 percent of all shootings in New York City and 4 percent of all robberies, though they are nearly 34 percent of the population.)

 

 

And if the police shootings that people have been protesting about involved a person with a gun or who was in the act of committing a crime, maybe this post would have relevance.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,242]

 

And if the police shootings that people have been protesting about involved a person with a gun or who was in the act of committing a crime, maybe this post would have relevance.

 

peenie, which police shootings didnt involve a gun, an attack or a perceived threat? I am curious, cause I am still waiting for one that BLM can stand on

 

maybe Korryn Gaines is the winner

[Reality 3,102]

Showed up to a press conference wearing a Fidel Castro t-shirt..

 

 

It's as I expected, he's just a fukin idiot.

[wiffleball 4,788]

It is perfectly within a black person's rights to try and rip a cop's gun out of his hands.

 

Because, until you're successful doing that, you are unarmed.

 

It's basically self-defense.

[frank 2,276]

 

peenie, which police shootings didnt involve a gun

All shootings involve a gun.

[peenie 1,905]

Eric Garner - I can't breathe guy, unarmed

John Crawford - in Walmart looking at a toy bb gun

Michael Brown - unarmed not anywhere near police officer, jaywalking

Tamir Rice - in park playing with toy gun, police just shot him. they never gave him a second to put down his toy gun, to explain, nothing, just shot dead

Walter Scott - unarmed running away from police officer who shot him and tried to plant a gun on him

Freddie Gray - was apprehended because he ran from police, they did find that he was carrying a knife, died of spinal cord injury

Anthony Hill - air force vet was running around naked because he suffered from mental illness was shot and killed, once again, he was naked.

 

No one killed Jared Loughner after he shot Gabrielle Giffords in the head.

White men shoot up movie theaters and are safely arrested and brought to trial.

I watched a man bulldoze his neighborhood and police officers basically thought it was funny while arresting the guy.

 

Now, if white men fear the sight of black men that much, they need to stop being police officers. It's clearly not a career they should pursue.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Peenie, when you use Michael Brown as an example, you are only hurting your argument.

[peenie 1,905]

I'll cross off Michael Brown and replace it with plain clothes police officer on duty being shot by white police officers.

Or off duty black police officers being shot by white police officers.

Or Amadou Diallo shot when they told him to hold up his hands and he was shot when they mistook his wallet for a gun.

Or when they mistake a cell phone for a gun.

[peenie 1,905]

Instead of trying to prove black people are paranoid and statistically show how criminal blacks are and that we deserve to be shot, why not just say nothing?

[Sho Nuff 720]

I dont kow about paranoid...but i think some grab on to really bad examples to use to promote any discussion

[wiffleball 4,788]

Peenie, when you use Michael Brown as an example, you are only hurting your argument.

Yup

[Mungwater 593]

Eric Garner - I can't breathe guy, unarmed

John Crawford - in Walmart looking at a toy bb gun

Michael Brown - unarmed not anywhere near police officer, jaywalking

Tamir Rice - in park playing with toy gun, police just shot him. they never gave him a second to put down his toy gun, to explain, nothing, just shot dead

Walter Scott - unarmed running away from police officer who shot him and tried to plant a gun on him

Freddie Gray - was apprehended because he ran from police, they did find that he was carrying a knife, died of spinal cord injury

Anthony Hill - air force vet was running around naked because he suffered from mental illness was shot and killed, once again, he was naked.

 

No one killed Jared Loughner after he shot Gabrielle Giffords in the head.

White men shoot up movie theaters and are safely arrested and brought to trial.

I watched a man bulldoze his neighborhood and police officers basically thought it was funny while arresting the guy.

 

Now, if white men fear the sight of black men that much, they need to stop being police officers. It's clearly not a career they should pursue.

The main point is you have folks who weren't compliant with officers.

[KSB2424 3,148]

Now, if white men fear the sight of black men that much, they need to stop being police officers. It's clearly not a career they should pursue.

I've stayed out of this but it's comments like this that irk me.

 

It really shows how out of touch you are.....

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,242]

Yes there are mistakes. Tamir rice was not a mistake but there are very few if any cases where a cop goes out and shoots someone just cause they are a certain skin color. It happens on occasion but when it does justice has been served. Also Freddie gray was an accident that could have happened to anyone. They didn't purposely hurt him or let him die

 

For everyone you list there are an equal number of whites Mexicans and Asians shot by police

 

If the culture as a whole would work to decrease crime maybe officers would t be so scared to deal with them. 13% of the population commit 51% of the violent crimes. That is not whities fault

[Kopy 559]

Put on the NFL network and who do I see preaching about social justice ect? Jim Brown. Ray Rice wasn't available? The NFL is so full of it, and they and now their players are doing their best to turn people off.

Ray Rice never tried to kill anyone. Jim Brown on the other hand has. If he says he wants to go on TV and talk, you say yes sir, right away Mr. Brown.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Instead of trying to prove black people are paranoid and statistically show how criminal blacks are and that we deserve to be shot, why not just say nothing?

Twice as many white people are killed by police and I'll bet you don't know the name of one of them.

[peenie 1,905]

Twice as many white people are killed by police and I'll bet you don't know the name of one of them.

 

omg, honestly, i'm so tired of this subject. it's really just something for me to argue about.

i really don't care that much.

[Strike 5,214]

Just saw a headline that ESPN (or whomever) isn't going to air the National Anthem for San frans game v. chargers.

 

When I read this all I can think of is that old adage "If a tree falls in the forest but there isn't anyone around to hear it fall, does it make a sound?"

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,242]

 

When I read this all I can think of is that old adage "If a tree falls in the forest but there isn't anyone around to hear it fall, does it make a sound?"

 

whats great is that its on Military appreciation day

[Saint Elistan 106]

Good to see #VeteransforKaepernick trend on Twitter yesterday.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

i really don't care that much.

No one really cares. And for the record I can't name a white guy killed by cops either.

[tanatastic 2,062]

Lol at naming all the victims. you know their names because it sells media clicks and ratings. If you had a list of white names shot by cops in this same timespace it would be too long to even get through. What a joke. BLM are the real racists here. Kaep should leave the country if its so terrible.

[iam90sbaby 2,493]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/north-korea-executes-vice-premier-for-not-sitting-up-straight_us_57c6c7d8e4b0e60d31dc3939

 

 

 

[Baker Boy 1,688]

“You have Hillary who has called black teens or black kids 'super predators,' you have Donald Trump who’s openly racist,”We have a presidential candidate who has deleted emails and done things illegally and is a presidential candidate. That doesn't make sense to me because if that was any other person you’d be in prison. So, what is this country really standing for?”

Colin Kaepernick

[peenie 1,905]

Lol at naming all the victims. you know their names because it sells media clicks and ratings. If you had a list of white names shot by cops in this same timespace it would be too long to even get through. What a joke. BLM are the real racists here. Kaep should leave the country if its so terrible.

 

 

Come on now, I didn't know their names, but Google did.

[Baker Boy 1,688]

Eric Garner - I can't breathe guy, unarmed

John Crawford - in Walmart looking at a toy bb gun

Michael Brown - unarmed not anywhere near police officer, jaywalking

Tamir Rice - in park playing with toy gun, police just shot him. they never gave him a second to put down his toy gun, to explain, nothing, just shot dead

Walter Scott - unarmed running away from police officer who shot him and tried to plant a gun on him

Freddie Gray - was apprehended because he ran from police, they did find that he was carrying a knife, died of spinal cord injury

Anthony Hill - air force vet was running around naked because he suffered from mental illness was shot and killed, once again, he was naked.

 

No one killed Jared Loughner after he shot Gabrielle Giffords in the head.

White men shoot up movie theaters and are safely arrested and brought to trial.

I watched a man bulldoze his neighborhood and police officers basically thought it was funny while arresting the guy.

 

Now, if white men fear the sight of black men that much, they need to stop being police officers. It's clearly not a career they should pursue.

This is a list of Police Officers killed as of July 19, 2016:

 

2016

End of Watch* Name Department Cause of death

2016-01-17 Officer Thomas W. Cottrell, Jr.[889] Danville Police Department, OH Gunfire

2016-01-17 Officer Douglas Barney[890] Unified Police Department Salt Lake City, UT Gunfire

2016-01-20 Correctional Officer Adam Conrad[891] Marion County Sheriff's Office, IL Automobile accident

2016-02-05 Sergeant Jason Goodding[892] Seaside Police Department, OR Gunfire

2016-02-10 Deputy Sheriff Scott Ballantyne[893] Tulare County Sheriff's Office, CA Aircraft accident

2016-02-10 Deputy Derek Geer[894] Mesa County Sheriff's Office, CO Gunfire

2016-02-10 Deputy Mark Logsdon[895] Harford County Sheriff's Office, MD Gunfire

2016-02-10 Deputy Patrick Dailey[896] Harford County Sheriff's Office, MD Gunfire

2016-02-11 Major Gregory E. "Lem" Barney[897] Riverdale Police Department, GA Gunfire

2016-02-11 Officer Jason Moszer[898] Fargo Police Department, ND Gunfire

2016-02-27 Officer Ashley Guindon[899] Prince William County Police Department, VA Gunfire

2016-03-04 Sergeant Scot Fitzgerald [900] South Jacksonville Police Department, IL Automobile accident

2016-03-12 Deputy John Robert Kotfila, Jr.[901] Hillsborough County Sheriffs Office, FL Automobile accident

2016-03-18 Officer David Hofer902] Euless Police Department, TX Gunfire

2016-03-18 Officer Allen Jacobs[903] Greenville Police Department, SC Gunfire

2016-03-20 Deputy Carl A. Koontz[904] Howard County Sherriffs Office, IN Gunfire

2016-04-12 Officer Steven M. Smith[905] Columbus Division of Police, OH Gunfire

2016-05-09 Detective Brad Lancaster[906] Kansas City Police Department, KS Gunfire

2016-05-18 Officer David Glasser[907] Phoenix Police Department, AZ Gunfire

2016-06-14 Officer Michael Katherman[908] San Jose Police Department, CA Automobile accident

2016-07-07 Officer Brent Thompson[909] Dallas Area Rapid Transit, TX Gunfire

2016-07-07 Officer Michael Smith Dallas Police Department, TX Gunfire

2016-07-07 Officer Patrick Zamarripa Dallas Police Department, TX Gunfire

2016-07-07 Officer Michael Krol Dallas Police Department, TX Gunfire

2016-07-07 Officer Lorne Ahrens Dallas Police Department, TX Gunfire

2016-07-11 Security Supervisor Joseph Zangaro[910] Berrien County Courthouse Security, MI Gunfire

2016-07-11 Court Officer Ronald Kienzle[911] Berrien County Courthouse Security, MI Gunfire

2016-07-17 Deputy Brad Garafola East Baton Rouge Parish Sheriff's Office, LA Gunfire

2016-07-17 Officer Matthew Gerald Baton Rouge Police Department, LA Gunfire

2016-07-17 Officer Montrell Jackson Baton Rouge Police Department, LA Gunfire

2016-07-19 Captain Robert Melton[912] Kansas City Police Department, KS Gunfire

[drobeski 3,061]

A true dirtbag, he should get shot by a cop.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/8832/colin-kaepernicks-practice-socks-pig-cops-hat-james-barrett

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,242]

A true dirtbag, he should get shot by a cop.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/8832/colin-kaepernicks-practice-socks-pig-cops-hat-james-barrett

 

yep like every supporter of BLM, doubling down whenever they are wrong

[Hardcore troubadour 14,952]

49'rs and the NFL allow this. Keep it up, I barely go to games now, that can change fast.

[wiffleball 4,788]

Looks like BB wins in the statistics mode.

 

 

What pisses me off are those who compare Kap to Ali.

 

Um, anybody who thinks life is anywhere NEAR the same for blacks of today vs. Ali's time is an idiot.

 

And, Peenie - did I miss it, or did you even express any kind of general sadness or sympathy for the two white nuns who were killed by a black man? I'm not asking you to apologize for an entire race, but like I said, all this outrage over the statistically minimal killing of (largely resistant, criminal) black folks by cops, but "hey, boys will be boys" attitude toward black men killing each other and innocent, giving civilians is pretty telling.

[drobeski 3,061]

Thug

[cyclone24 1,912]

I don't mind the protest I don't like protesting the end result of police shootings as the problem in Black America. If your only concern is what authorities do and you're going to nitpick every decision every use of force every procedure they do we are never going to get anywhere. What needs to happen is to get on the front end of the problems in the black community and these things have nothing to do with white people or police.

If Colin wants to help he can do it pretty easily. He should take 1 million dollars and devoted 2 local schools to help fix them up. This would help with the almost 50% Dropout rates in the black community. He should then take another million dollars and devote it to either a center or speak himself about single family homes that are destroying the black community at almost 70%. He should then take million and start up several businesses in poor communities to get these people jobs.

It would help educate, employ and teach young black men about the power of family. All of these would reduce crime and awful interactions with police and put money back into their communities.

You can't just focus on police actions because you can tweak a bunch of things but you still have a pipeline of dumbass kids who are uneducated not working and poor coming down the pipeline that you'll never stop

[wiffleball 4,788]

Shaq just came out and said the same thing I said when this first broke:

 

"What I want to know is why now?"

 

Shaq went on to say that Ali and others were consistent, but Kap stood happily for 3,4 years. And that 'social injustice' has been around a long time.

 

All very valid questions.

 

 

The only that changed now is that Kap doesn't want to sit the bench and now will have a built in excuse when he's cut.

[posty 2,613]

"What I want to know is why now?"

It is because he is irrelevant now...

[vuduchile 1,945]

Why do we give sh!t if he sits and why do we even want to know his reasons for doing so?

 

Football is not war, and has nothing to do with the government or the military.

 

Standing for the National Anthem is just a patriotic custom that most people observe at the beginning of each game.

 

I happen to like it, but I couldn't care less if a wash out 9er QB wants to sit in protest.

 

People really need to find some real problems to focus on.

 

This isn't one.

[posty 2,613]

Why do we give sh!t if he sits and why do we even want to know his reasons for doing so?

 

Football is not war, and has nothing to do with the government or the military.

 

Standing for the National Anthem is just a patriotic custom that most people observe at the beginning of each game.

 

I happen to like it, but I couldn't care less if a wash out 9er QB wants to sit in protest.

 

People really need to find some real problems to focus on.

 

This isn't one.

Then why hasn't he been sitting his entire life?

[vuduchile 1,945]

Then why hasn't he been sitting his entire life?

I don't know

 

And

 

I don't care