cyclone24 1,814 Posted February 18, 2017 Im just trying to figure out which one of you gets credit for this beating of shonuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted February 18, 2017 did you ? Depends on which instance. Much of his calling out was tame. Not screaming fake news at them and telling them to sit down in press conferences or labeling them enemy of the people. As I said...the situations aren't even similar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted February 18, 2017 Im just trying to figure out which one of you gets credit for this beating of shonuff. Beating? This is why I think you are a moron...you are seriously that stupid to think anyone is beating me down right now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,814 Posted February 18, 2017 Beating? This is why I think you are a moron...you are seriously that stupid to think anyone is beating me down right now. Umm its multiple people in this thread. As usual you have no backing. Carry on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted February 18, 2017 Umm its multiple people in this thread. As usual you have no backing. Carry on. It's multiple people in this thread unable to answer questions or having a logical point in opposing me...but you think just them opposing me is kicking my ass. Hence you're an idiot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 18, 2017 Im just trying to figure out which one of you gets credit for this beating of shonuff.I usually take the wins in pretty much every thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 18, 2017 Depends on which instance. Much of his calling out was tame. Not screaming fake news at them and telling them to sit down in press conferences or labeling them enemy of the people. As I said...the situations aren't even similar. in any instance ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,814 Posted February 18, 2017 I usually take the wins in pretty much every thread. Sonofabitch.....true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted February 18, 2017 in any instance ? Bring what evidence you have if you have any. Still not really comparable to whatvTrump has done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 18, 2017 Bring what evidence you have if you have any. Still not really comparable to whatvTrump has done evidence of you bashing Obama for bashing fox news ? Good one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted February 18, 2017 evidence of you bashing Obama for bashing fox news ? Good one. Got any of you even doing it...search the threads all you want post them here then see if I supported such action. I would have bashed him had he labeled them the enemy of the people or any politician. Or quit trying to equate things that simply aren't the same Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted February 18, 2017 I can only imagine how you're judging Obama and his results. If there were any. Overall, an ineffective leader. What I think of Obama or Trump has no influence on me thinking that what Trump said was flat out wrong. Plenty of fault with the media.....but I wouldn't say they are an enemy of the American people. Irresponsible in my opinion. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,734 Posted February 18, 2017 This won't be covered by Breitbart either. http://politi.co/2l4eCjJ Trump granting club members access to interviews for key government jobs. Pay to play isn't just a Clinton Foundation thing. The hypocritical outrage here is going to be hilarious. Those on the left that denounced CF criticisms will be up in arms. Those on the right that lambasted the CF will say, "But she did it" and justify it. Meanwhile, the people that can't stand either get to sit in middle class purgatory. So, no answer to my question. Anyhow, I have read it twice now, and judging by the conclusions you have reached , I don't think you read it once. It's as if you made things up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,734 Posted February 18, 2017 Overall, an ineffective leader. What I think of Obama or Trump has no influence on me thinking that what Trump said was flat out wrong. Plenty of fault with the media.....but I wouldn't say they are an enemy of the American people. Irresponsible in my opinion. Irresponsible? Nah, I would say hyperbolic. If you want to hear some irresponsible speech, I direct you to nearly everything Obama said while he was pushing his healthcare plan. Or sending out your lackeys and misblaming (lying) about a terrorist attack that claimed the lives of Americans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted February 18, 2017 Irresponsible? Nah, I would say hyperbolic. If you want to hear some irresponsible speech, I direct you to nearly everything Obama said while he was pushing his healthcare plan. Or sending out your lackeys and misblaming (lying) about a terrorist attack that claimed the lives of Americans Irresponsible because it serves to further divide this country. Did Obama divide the country? Sure. But with Trump I get the impression there's an endgame here. Bannon in his ear. It's no coincidence he's this antagonistic toward the MSM. If he focks up, no need to even try to spin it. Just say the MSM is the enemy and go about your business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,742 Posted February 19, 2017 This. Sho is what he professes to mock. The guy is completely unhinged. This thread is just further proof of that fact. That you can't see that Trump is the most unhinged there is is telling. That none of you can answer what the media should have covered differently about Obama also telling. If you're going to do this... You should stop doing this... It screams "I'm a focking hypocrite!" hth I responded to a question. I didn't bring it up dumbass. When I try saying just stick to the topic and not answer things...you all throw a fit. Bunch of children. Please show me where I asked a question. You did bring it up dumbass. Further proof you're unhinged. Do your family a favor and seek help. They rely on you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted February 19, 2017 Irresponsible? Nah, I would say hyperbolic. If you want to hear some irresponsible speech, I direct you to nearly everything Obama said while he was pushing his healthcare plan. Or sending out your lackeys and misblaming (lying) about a terrorist attack that claimed the lives of Americans Nearly everything? I remember someone trying to get a bill passed that he thought would benefit the people of this country. There was no alternative proposed that seemed worth a damn at the time. Maybe there was some small movement to get some kind of alternative health care plan passed, but it wasn't gaining enough steam to become popular. Allowing Children to stay on a parents insurance plan until 26, and eliminating the practice where an insurance company can refuse someone for a pre existing condition, those were two great wins with the Affordable Care Act. I also did appreciate the attempt to get everyone covered by insurance. I have talked to a lot of people in the health industry that say Obama care was a train wreck for their jobs. I believe them. The plan was far from perfect, but I think a lot of us agreed with this at the time. We just knew something had to be done, and at least I had hoped passing SOMETHING would lead to revisions as we experiment and find the proper course. The republicans have already set aside plans to just flat out scrap Obama care. That is a great thing. It means they can't just scrap it and set us back to the way insurance used to be. They have to actually address the issue and come up with a plan to replace Obama care. I think it's a good thing. It was an experiment that really didn't last all that long. I think the problems it caused were more like "first world problems". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted February 19, 2017 This won't be covered by Breitbart either. http://politi.co/2l4eCjJ Trump granting club members access to interviews for key government jobs. Pay to play isn't just a Clinton Foundation thing. The hypocritical outrage here is going to be hilarious. Those on the left that denounced CF criticisms will be up in arms. Those on the right that lambasted the CF will say, "But she did it" and justify it. Meanwhile, the people that can't stand either get to sit in middle class purgatory. Trump openly doing what every politician in the world has long done behind closed doors. Obama claimed transparency, Trump is walking the walk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted February 19, 2017 Trump openly doing what every politician in the world has long done behind closed doors. Obama claimed transparency, Trump is walking the walk. What a thing to celebrate... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 20, 2017 When the media decides on what and how to report on things, they are censoring therefore an Enemy to the People. Report it all; not just what fits into your narrative. CNN started censoring years ago when it deemed the American people couldn't handle some of the news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 20, 2017 What a thing to celebrate... What was there to celebrate for Obama? UBL? Would we not have gotten him anyway? Anything remotely positive left from Obama? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,652 Posted February 20, 2017 Filthy, go for a walk. Chris Wallace did a good job on this whole thing Sunday. Took exceptional umbrage to the whole EOP nonsense. Probably best so far. And that's FoxNews. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 20, 2017 Filthy, go for a walk. Chris Wallace did a good job on this whole thing Sunday. Took exceptional umbrage to the whole EOP nonsense. Probably best so far. And that's FoxNews. If the sh!t fits........ Anyone with any credibility and honesty admits the truth. The mainstream media is nothing more than a propaganda network for the party they back. You mention FoxNews and him (Wallace) taking issue with Trump. Now imagine CNN/MSNBC or the likes doing likewise against Obama/Hillary/Schumer/Pelosi. If you're honest, you can't even imagine them broadcasting that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,652 Posted February 20, 2017 If the sh!t fits........ Anyone with any credibility and honesty admits the truth. The mainstream media is nothing more than a propaganda network for the party they back. You mention FoxNews and him (Wallace) taking issue with Trump. Now imagine CNN/MSNBC or the likes doing likewise against Obama/Hillary/Schumer/Pelosi. If you're honest, you can't even imagine them broadcasting that. Boy, this is going to be easy. Took about a four second Google search. Always cracks me up that the guys who swear they never watch the lamestream media I think they know exactly Everything there is to know About those Networks. How exactly does that work? Unless you're getting all of your talking points from Breitbart or Hannity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 20, 2017 Boy, this is going to be easy. Took about a four second Google search. Always cracks me up that the guys who swear they never watch the lamestream media I think they know exactly Everything there is to know About those Networks. How exactly does that work? Unless you're getting all of your talking points from Breitbart or Hannity. So you did a four second Google search and led you to...........................a drunken rant? WTF are you trying to say? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted February 20, 2017 Control the media (and the masses) so only your point of view is heard. Hitler would be proud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 313 Posted February 20, 2017 You both would have fit in well in Lenin's Russia. Sorry...but it's a painfully ignorant thing to say. No wonder you think it was great. Right? As I said...the collective of you are complete morons if you actually believe that. That's excellent. A liberal, who advocates socialist goverment, calling the others fascists. You have absolutely no foundation for what you're saying, other than muh feelz. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,814 Posted February 20, 2017 Control the media (and the masses) so only your point of view is heard. Hitler would be proud. Yes list for me the newspapers hes had shut down. How about one reporter hes had detained. How about killed How about even one story hes had stopped from being published. He sucks at being hitler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted February 20, 2017 When the media decides on what and how to report on things, they are censoring therefore an Enemy to the People. Report it all; not just what fits into your narrative. CNN started censoring years ago when it deemed the American people couldn't handle some of the news. Why wouldn't the media decide in how and what to report? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted February 20, 2017 That's excellent. A liberal, who advocates socialist goverment, calling the others fascists. You have absolutely no foundation for what you're saying, other than muh feelz. I don't advocate a socialist government. No foundation? Read up on Brannon's love for Lenin...read up on history of the phrase enemy of the people/state? Then try again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,734 Posted February 20, 2017 Yes list for me the newspapers hes had shut down. How about one reporter hes had detained. How about killed How about even one story hes had stopped from being published. He sucks at being hitler. Remember that time the German courts said Hitler couldn't deport the Jews? And Hitler peacefully complied? Yeah, Trump is just like Hitler. And remember the German version of SNL used to lambaste Hitler every Saturday night, and Hitler tweeted about it? People who make the Hitler analogy are the dumbest ones around. Congrats Newbie, you've done it again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 313 Posted February 20, 2017 I don't advocate a socialist government. No foundation? Read up on Brannon's love for Lenin...read up on history of the phrase enemy of the people/state? Then try again. Brannon is the President? You don't advocate for Obama Care? Shall i go look it up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,814 Posted February 20, 2017 Why wouldn't the media decide in how and what to report? On the surface yes you're right they should but we know that it doesn't work out that way. We have much of televised media that goes out of its way to put their slant on the news. Heck we have one station that went out of their way to try to actually affect the election. That's not right for either side I think you can agree with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted February 20, 2017 Yes list for me the newspapers hes had shut down. How about one reporter hes had detained. How about killed How about even one story hes had stopped from being published. He sucks at being hitler. Actually, that's not the progression. Trump knows his base is hateful. He's already instilled the violence in them at his rallies. Eventually, one of his mentally challenged followers is going to injure or kill a reporter. His goal right now is to make the public think that everything negative about him is fake. To try to delegitimize any media that isn't blowing smoke up his ass. He's five weeks in. Baby steps. Baby steps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted February 20, 2017 Brannon is the President? You don't advocate for Obama Care? Shall i go look it up? Bannon is a top advisor and much of his influence is seen in this admin thus far. I advocated for a change to our healthcare. That is not equal to advocating for a socialistic government. That's the disconnect and your big leap in logic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted February 20, 2017 On the surface yes you're right they should but we know that it doesn't work out that way. We have much of televised media that goes out of its way to put their slant on the news. Heck we have one station that went out of their way to try to actually affect the election. That's not right for either side I think you can agree with that. You all keep mixing slant on news vs the opinion shows. Which is funny given the defense of fox for years on this board was whining that it was only the opinion shows. The media does decide how and what they put in their networks. To best serve their consumers. That is a free press Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,814 Posted February 20, 2017 Actually, that's not the progression. Trump knows his base is hateful. He's already instilled the violence in them at his rallies. Eventually, one of his mentally challenged followers is going to injure or kill a reporter. His goal right now is to make the public think that everything negative about him is fake. To try to delegitimize any media that isn't blowing smoke up his ass. He's five weeks in. Baby steps. Baby stepsThey are violent? Wow look at all those protests and riots and beating of who people that were Clinton supporters. Oh wait that was liberals doing that to Trump supporters. Any violence that occurred at a rally with Trump by Trump supporters was because a bunch of hired idiots came in trying to disrupt which I'm sorry but you should get your ass kicked for that. If Republicans did that to Democrats I would say the same thing. Let's not shed a tear for either of our sides idiots Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted February 20, 2017 They are violent? Wow look at all those protests and riots and beating of who people that were Clinton supporters. Oh wait that was liberals doing that to Trump supporters. Any violence that occurred at a rally with Trump by Trump supporters was because a bunch of hired idiots came in trying to disrupt which I'm sorry but you should get your ass kicked for that. If Republicans did that to Democrats I would say the same thing. Let's not shed a tear for either of our sides idiots "I'd like to punch them right in the face" "Don't hurt him too bad on the way out. But if you do, I'll pay the lawyer bills" Donald Trump. Pumping up his base. Just watch. One of those morons are going to attack a reporter soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,814 Posted February 20, 2017 "I'd like to punch them right in the face" "Don't hurt him too bad on the way out. But if you do, I'll pay the lawyer bills" Donald Trump. Pumping up his base. Just watch. One of those morons are going to attack a reporter soon. Way to excuse what the left is doing by going back to a quote from one of his rallies about an idiot interrupting one of his rallies. And again a person that should have his ass kicked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,814 Posted February 20, 2017 And good Lord nobody is attacking a reporter. We don't really silence people with opposing views. We leave that to you guys. Asking for fair journalism isn't.... heck screw Fair journalism how about just one that gets backed up with sources? Either way asking for that is not silencing the media. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites