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   I've heard three or four different members say that he has already been suspended for physically threatening other members. The guy is obviously in the throes of a mental crisis. I have a feeling we might be all the poor guy has.

3 or 4? Name 2

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we are arguing that the United States murder rate has dropped even more during that same time without a gun ban

The US size and demographics are so wildly different than Australia, that's a pretty meaningless argument.

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The US size and demographics are so wildly different than Australia, that's a pretty meaningless argument.

 

 

agree completely, yet you guys use Australia continually as a look it works argument

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 Are you IMMensa? You sure do have a lot of concern anytime someone mentions him. Sorry, but I'm not going back to read every post I've read in the past couple of weeks to find the ones where I saw someone mention his previous tough guy acts. But you can certainly do the research if you have the time.

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Vegas shooter had 200+ reports of suspicious activities, large financial transactions in casinoshttps://www.yahoo.com/gma/vegas-shooter-had-200-reports-suspicious-activities-large-004306919--abc-news-topstories.htmlSee something, say something?but no one will care

Not sure what you're trying to prove. Any transaction over 10k is reported to the government. I guess we better go arrest Daniel Negreneau for all his "suspicious activities."

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  Are you IMMensa? You sure do have a lot of concern anytime someone mentions him. Sorry, but I'm not going back to read every post I've read in the past couple of weeks to find the ones where I saw someone mention his previous tough guy acts. But you can certainly do the research if you have the time.

Ok, so just MDC. Why lie?

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lol you're talking about a bolt action rifle. That makes up a small percentage of guns. That's like saying "well the recall on the mini coops involves a lot of cars!" Yea it's a stick shift which makes up a very small percentage of cars. Use your head for more than a hat rack

 

 

Mini coops are also one of the biggest pieces of sh1t on the road today. Just thought I'd point that out.

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Mini coops are also one of the biggest pieces of sh1t on the road today. Just thought I'd point that out.

you mean littlest

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agree completely, yet you guys use Australia continually as a look it works argument

I didn't use it, I'm just taking issue with people denying the actual hard fact that homicide rates have actually declined in that time.

 

If you want to argue that gun laws in the US or Australia have no affect on homicide rates have at it.

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No you just engaged in your typical passive/agressive crap by trying to make it seem like I had just randomly insulted him when that wasn't what happened at all. Maybe give the stalky, whiny, horsesh!t a rest for a day - or a lifetime - or two.

Total projection on your part. Passive/aggressive? My but you're thenthitive.

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Someone insults me, I'm going to insult them back. You don't like it drag your vagina back to the mange bored or wherever. I really couldn't care less. :dunno:

Writing ^^^, and calling people 'assclown'...is passive/aggressive. You're simply projecting your guilt outward.

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Wait: the overall murder rate in Australia spiked within a year or two of the gun ban and its dropped ever since. I believe it's at it's lowest level in decades.

 

Are we arguing that the gun ban had no affect?

Why don't you read what the argument is instead of guessing what the argument is?

 

It was plainly explained to you. The murder rate in the US dropped the same as it did in Australia. But we ADDED guns.

 

So - clearly - you cannot attribute a drop in the murder rate in Australia to a lack of guns, since it nearly exactly duplicated the drop in the murder rate in America.

 

In fact - and I'm repeating myself because you're apparently too lazy to read the original post - if more guns is supposed to equal MORE murder, and our murder rate dropped - then Australia merely keeping up with our rate of decline instead of massively outpacing it as a result of their ban means that removing guns from their society prevented the murder rate from declining MORE.

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There are 194 countries in the world (depending on how you count.)

 

You think 93rd in murder rate is ok? Considering that most of the countries on earth are overpopulated poverty stricken third world sh!tholes, that doesnt impress. Especially since we have more police per capita and more imprisioned persons per capital than most.

 

Compare us to other industrialized first world countries. Europe. The civilized parts of Asia. Hell, even many of the not so civilized parts.

 

Anyway. I regret getting sucked into this. Its a waste of time. Nobodys opinions are gonna change. Welcome back to the sewer over here at the geek club.

Here's someone who thought about guns and gun control exactly as you did. Her name is Leah Libresco. She's a statistician and former writer for 538. She's a leftist. Unlike you, she did the research. Exhaustively.

 

And she was forced to face the reality that you and others here refuse to face. This should be eye-opening for you, if you actually read it.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i-used-to-think-gun-control-was-the-answer-my-research-told-me-otherwise/2017/10/03/d33edca6-a851-11e7-92d1-58c702d2d975_story.html?utm_term=.75795ee81dc9

 

An excerpt:

 

I researched the strictly tightened gun laws in Britain and Australia and concluded that they didnt prove much about what Americas policy should be. Neither nation experienced drops in mass shootings or other gun related-crime that could be attributed to their buybacks and bans. Mass shootings were too rare in Australia for their absence after the buyback program to be clear evidence of progress. And in both Australia and Britain, the gun restrictions had an ambiguous effect on other gun-related crimes or deaths.

The article hotlinks the actual research she cites.

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   I've heard three or four different members say that he has already been suspended for physically threatening other members. The guy is obviously in the throes of a mental crisis. I have a feeling we might be all the poor guy has.

Meanwhile, Newbie, you've been outed. :lol:

 

The next time you demonstrate that you know what you're talking about will be the first time you demonstrate that you know what you're talking about.

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Every 2-hours, three people are killed in alcohol-related highway crashes. The consequences of drinking and driving are arrests, property damage, injuries, and thousands of deaths each year. An estimated 4 million U.S. adults reported driving under the influence of alcohol at least once in 2010yielding an estimated 112 million alcohol-impaired driving episodes. Men accounted for 81 percent of these incidents.

https://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/publications/by_the_numbers/drunk_driving/index.html

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Every 2-hours, three people are killed in alcohol-related highway crashes. The consequences of drinking and driving are arrests, property damage, injuries, and thousands of deaths each year. An estimated 4 million U.S. adults reported driving under the influence of alcohol at least once in 2010yielding an estimated 112 million alcohol-impaired driving episodes. Men accounted for 81 percent of these incidents.

https://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/publications/by_the_numbers/drunk_driving/index.html

Ban alcohol!!!!!!

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Suicide success rate is probably true, but there are less messy alternatives.

Probably true?

 

I'm sure Dgb will be in to correct you shortly, followed by Mensa spewing a barely coherent thought with flowery language.

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yes we have had this discussion ad naseum, and nothing you have every shown, says that they increase suicides or homicides, just that the guns are used more frequently to do the job, they don't create more deaths

Jesus, dude, did you even read the links?? I've posted them at least three times, one specifically for your benefit.

 

Gun ownership increases your risk of suicide and homicide, period. Not just suicide or homicide by gun. Period. Look it up or use the search function, and actually read what you find.

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The car statement is blatant stupidity. He KNOWS it. He just doesn't want to ADMIT it. Despite the statistics that someone died from a car wreck, what, once every 26 seconds? Average of 3,276/day. You do the math (just did which is roughly ever you 26 seconds). So...he's either stupid or doesn't want to admit it. I'm going with doesn't want to admit it. Dumbest argument someone can make in reference to it. Besides, weren't these people just getting upset over a guy using a car as a weapon in Charlottesville to run over people in a crowd?

You may be right, I'm not sure. Although almost everyone is a driver or passenger in motor vehicles at some point, but people too poor/unable to own a vehicle probably have their own set of problems.

 

I'm not saying owning a car doesn't increase your risk of dying in a car accident; I'm wondering if an overall mortality difference has ever been shown between car owners and non owners.

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Still butthurt over that one too huh? If you're going to start hanging around here again you really have to learn to take your beatins' and move on. HTH.

That would be a major paradigm shift.

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Have extreme gun laws prevented terrorism in Europe? So far this year:

 

 

1/1: Mass shooting, Istanbul night club, 39D/70I

 

 

3/22: Car attack, London Westminster bridge, 5D/49I

 

 

4/3: Suicide bomb, St Petersburg metro, 15D/87I

 

 

4/7: Truck attack, Stockholm street, 5D, 14I

 

 

4/20: Shooting, Paris Champs-Elysees, 1D, 3I

 

 

5/22: Suicide bomb, Manchester Arena Concert (Ariana Grande) , 22D, 120I

 

 

6/3: Van attack, stabbings, London Bridge, 8D, 48I

 

 

8/17: Van Attack, stabbings, Barcelona Las Ramblas, 16D, 152I

 

 

Evil people will find a way, be it using knives, bombs, vehicles, or illegally acquired firearms.

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Have extreme gun laws prevented terrorism in Europe? So far this year:

 

 

1/1: Mass shooting, Istanbul night club, 39D/70I

 

 

3/22: Car attack, London Westminster bridge, 5D/49I

 

 

4/3: Suicide bomb, St Petersburg metro, 15D/87I

 

 

4/7: Truck attack, Stockholm street, 5D, 14I

 

 

4/20: Shooting, Paris Champs-Elysees, 1D, 3I

 

 

5/22: Suicide bomb, Manchester Arena Concert (Ariana Grande) , 22D, 120I

 

 

6/3: Van attack, stabbings, London Bridge, 8D, 48I

 

 

8/17: Van Attack, stabbings, Barcelona Las Ramblas, 16D, 152I

 

 

Evil people will find a way, be it using knives, bombs, vehicles, or illegally acquired firearms.

 

 

 

Not only will they find a way but they'll encounter much less resistance.

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Jesus, dude, did you even read the links?? I've posted them at least three times, one specifically for your benefit.

Gun ownership increases your risk of suicide and homicide, period. Not just suicide or homicide by gun. Period. Look it up or use the search function, and actually read what you find.

And alcohol is a bigger problem but you dont care about that because you drive drunk and feel it is ok. Go figure!

 

A drunk population is easier to fool than a population with guns.

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And alcohol is a bigger problem but you dont care about that because you drive drunk and feel it is ok. Go figure!

 

A drunk population is easier to fool than a population with guns.

I agree, penultimate is a big offender of this. We need to lock his drunk, worthless, a$s away.

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Probably true?

I'm sure Dgb will be in to correct you shortly, followed by Mensa spewing a barely coherent thought with flowery language.

:lol:

 

This is really all you've got. Precious.

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The board wordsmith is up and at it again. Blah blah blah blah blah Get ready for a multi-quote bonanza!!

 

Bwahahahaha, you tell them guy. You call anybody a pvssy yet today?

 

ROFLLMAO, amirite?

 

:music_guitarred:

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The board wordsmith is up and at it again. Blah blah blah blah blah Get ready for a multi-quote bonanza!!

Jealous. It's a theme with you.

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Who am I jealous of? IMMensamind? Are you nuts?

Yes. You're a noted attention and quite stupid. He has the things you want.

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Yes. You're a noted attention ###### and quite stupid. He has the things you want.

Like 5% body fat?

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Yes. You're a noted attention ###### and quite stupid. He has the things you want.

Well, I couldn't tell you where he lives, if he's married, or what he does. All I know is that he tries to impress with long, boring posts that sound like gibberish. So I guess I must want that too. You're not a real bright one, are you?

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And since he's threatened to beat up someone, he must be really tough. That would be nice, I guess.

Holy moly! This coming from the "shatter your jaw" guy!

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Never shattered a jaw in my life. You must be dreaming about me

Oh I'm sorry, you just got here. There was this huge doosh that used to post here that would talk about shattering jaws, eating ass and his lonely life. Actually called for the death of another human being because he didn't like him. I mistaked him for you. My bad. Oh, he was also a rat. Asked for people to be banned, but then he got banned. Funny right?

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