himmystyles 29 Posted November 19, 2017 I'm sure this has been discussed in the past and possibly this year somewhere else. Do you guys not allow teams which are mathematically eliminated from playoff contention to add/drop? We don't allow them to trade, but them adding and dropping with a better priority than playoff teams also seems wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark32esu 18 Posted November 19, 2017 Trade, no. But our high points prize goes to week 16 in our league so they can still add/drop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,836 Posted November 19, 2017 No trades but still need to at least fill out a roster. They can effect playoff races if they tank. We went to rolling waivers a few years ago.....we like it. Makes you gameplan and save your waiver priority a little. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
himmystyles 29 Posted November 19, 2017 Trade, no. But our high points prize goes to week 16 in our league so they can still add/drop Yes we also pay high points but what are the chances a team not finishing in the top 6 in a 12 team league wins high points for the year? I mean I guess it's possible lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antiramie 50 Posted November 19, 2017 We do a payout for high points until the playoffs, so any team can make trades before the deadline and add/drop until the end of week 13. Once playoffs start non-playoff teams are locked. Most teams that get mathematically eliminted usually stop caring, so its typically not an issue unless top tier teams try to prey on their apathy. I personally never try and trade with eliminated teams out of principle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Challenger 72 Posted November 19, 2017 We do both high points and none playoff teams fight for higher draft next year. Solve almost all problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brotherbock 349 Posted November 19, 2017 Yes we also pay high points but what are the chances a team not finishing in the top 6 in a 12 team league wins high points for the year? I mean I guess it's possible lol. Some leagues pay high points week by week too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
himmystyles 29 Posted November 19, 2017 Some leagues pay high points week by week too. That's a good idea. Makes weekly decisions mean more. I like it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donkey 34 Posted November 19, 2017 Have to let them add/drop. Hopefully they're still interested in trying to win for league integrity. Otherwise teams playing against them have an advantage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ric0 20 Posted November 19, 2017 Yes we also pay high points but what are the chances a team not finishing in the top 6 in a 12 team league wins high points for the year? I mean I guess it's possible lol. the non-playoff teams fight for next year's draft positions. keeps things competitive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
himmystyles 29 Posted November 19, 2017 the non-playoff teams fight for next year's draft positions. keeps things competitive. I'm going to bring this up next year. We play in a high stakes money league, and have been for 15 years, but each year is completely independent. This is a great idea to keep it worth something and not just blocking the playoff teams out of spite (it happens). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamageIncVacc 6 Posted November 19, 2017 Yeah we have weekly prize for most points. so even the teeams out of it want to pick up players to try to win the weekly prize. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroTolerance 582 Posted November 19, 2017 Yes we also pay high points but what are the chances a team not finishing in the top 6 in a 12 team league wins high points for the year? I mean I guess it's possible lol. Oh, it's possible. I've personally had the pleasure of fielding two 4-9 teams in 17 years who were first and second in points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brotherbock 349 Posted November 19, 2017 Oh, it's possible. I've personally had the pleasure of fielding two 4-9 teams in 17 years who were first and second in points. I'm with you. My losing teams who have been bottom half in points are fewer than my losing teams who have been top half. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,096 Posted November 19, 2017 Yeah we have weekly prize for most points. so even the teeams out of it want to pick up players to try to win the weekly prize. We do the same in our league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,516 Posted November 20, 2017 Yeah we have weekly prize for most points. so even the teeams out of it want to pick up players to try to win the weekly prize. Plus we do head to head plus a full season total points. So yeah I have no problem with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted November 20, 2017 Add drop yes, trade deadline should have passed by now. Late deadlines only encourage tanking. I recommend week 8-9 at latest. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,438 Posted November 20, 2017 Yes they can do anything. Just like a real team. Jesus, is this really a debate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrmcguire 36 Posted November 20, 2017 Getting sick of the league im in when they leave players on byes in their starting lineup One guy has Vinatieri on a bye with Tucker on his bench and is losing by 1.5 points I think the commish needs to step in a have him drop Vinatieri and pickup Walsh for tomorrow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hair McNair 0 Posted November 20, 2017 I'm sure this has been discussed in the past and possibly this year somewhere else. Do you guys not allow teams which are mathematically eliminated from playoff contention to add/drop? We don't allow them to trade, but them adding and dropping with a better priority than playoff teams also seems wrong. Eliminated, yes they can make moves. But when playoffs start in 14 then no moves for non-playoff teams. Of course, with varying keeper/dynasty rules mileage will vary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,516 Posted November 20, 2017 Getting sick of the league im in when they leave players on byes in their starting lineup One guy has Vinatieri on a bye with Tucker on his bench and is losing by 1.5 points I think the commish needs to step in a have him drop Vinatieri and pickup Walsh for tomorrow Penalty is indeed needed too be installed for doing that. It will eliminate that problem. In my league lose points if you don't have a filled position, the points you lose is the your teams avg that your team normally scores at that position that isint filled. Plus you lose cash based on your over all postion based on total points. We don't have that problem i this league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrmcguire 36 Posted November 20, 2017 Getting really sick of it....may need to find a league with people who actually pay attention Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,516 Posted November 20, 2017 Getting really sick of it....may need to find a league with people who actually pay attention Whe they pay there is attention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,886 Posted November 20, 2017 I'm sure this has been discussed in the past and possibly this year somewhere else. Do you guys not allow teams which are mathematically eliminated from playoff contention to add/drop? We don't allow them to trade, but them adding and dropping with a better priority than playoff teams also seems wrong. If you seriously want any eliminated teams to not be able to do trades or adds then they are limited in being competitive. Which means, that any teams scheduled to play that team moving forward have a schedule advantage over other teams who played them earlier in the year. That is not a fair way to determine the final standings. If you go that route of taking options away from eliminated teams, then you may as well just remove them from any future scheduled games and figure out a new way to define the schedule from that point on. I believe all teams should be allowed to add/drop and trade all regular season long. It's the leagues fault if there are no incentives for an 8th place team to not want to be in 7th or 6th place by end of year. It doesn't take a genius imagination to come up with ways to make a team who is in 10th place with 3 weeks to go to want to finish in 9th place. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oriole8159 86 Posted November 20, 2017 If you seriously want any eliminated teams to not be able to do trades or adds then they are limited in being competitive. Which means, that any teams scheduled to play that team moving forward have a schedule advantage over other teams who played them earlier in the year. That is not a fair way to determine the final standings. If you go that route of taking options away from eliminated teams, then you may as well just remove them from any future scheduled games and figure out a new way to define the schedule from that point on. I believe all teams should be allowed to add/drop and trade all regular season long. It's the leagues fault if there are no incentives for an 8th place team to not want to be in 7th or 6th place by end of year. It doesn't take a genius imagination to come up with ways to make a team who is in 10th place with 3 weeks to go to want to finish in 9th place. I agree with this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaTick 29 Posted November 22, 2017 Yes. Here is a run down by transaction type. Free Agency, as long as they are playing. Trades, end with regular seasons. (yet to have one this year). Post Season - 2 tournaments. - Championship and a Toilet Bowl (losers advance.) First week, all teams still involved. After that, only those still performing. High Points for week, season and player ends at end of regular season. I'd say keep them involved Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thomsoad 1 Posted November 22, 2017 Trades no. Waiver wire only after the waiver for that week has been completed by the "contenders". Person eliminated gets the leftovers of the players still on waivers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rotisserieking 34 Posted November 22, 2017 Yes. Here is a run down by transaction type. Free Agency, as long as they are playing. Trades, end with regular seasons. (yet to have one this year). Post Season - 2 tournaments. - Championship and a Toilet Bowl (losers advance.) First week, all teams still involved. After that, only those still performing. High Points for week, season and player ends at end of regular season. I'd say keep them involved Everything said here I agree with. As a commissioner I fully expect each team to compete through the end of the season. With the toilet bowl every team gets at least 1 playoff game and in my other league where I'm sitting at 5-6 in 8th place it's now my goal to play spoiler and take down my next 2 opponents - it's all I've got to play for in that league Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,886 Posted November 22, 2017 Trades no. Waiver wire only after the waiver for that week has been completed by the "contenders". Person eliminated gets the leftovers of the players still on waivers. This is a recipe for having teams quit completely as early as week 8 or 9 even. Those eliminated teams still have to play against non eliminated teams. So those playing eliminated teams get a huge advantage that was not there before, because the eliminated teams have no reason to care the rest of the season and get bottom priority. Its these types of leagues that generate a lot of player complaints. You may as well just remove the eliminated teams from the schedule if this is the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites