usurpers26 26 Posted November 25, 2019 34 minutes ago, Cruzer said: Like I said, that series of downs - cost Red his job. The 9-plus-years-of-at-best-mediocre-coaching sure didn't help. (lifelong Boys fan) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,414 Posted November 25, 2019 I'm not blaming the refs for this loss, but they did play a major part. Here are the 2 phantom tripping calls...... Cowboys Get Cheated By Refs vs Patriots, Called For “Tripping” Twice Late In Game https://dailysnark.com/cowboys-get-cheated-by-refs-vs-patriots-called-for-tripping-twice-late-in-game/?fbclid=IwAR25w0tGVVKqExSxi4E6uCO0qFIQXNViJIAv5eUEUbp28c8GioHtujCpuTE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted November 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Big Guy said: I'm not blaming the refs for this loss, but they did play a major part. Here are the 2 phantom tripping calls...... https://dailysnark.com/cowboys-get-cheated-by-refs-vs-patriots-called-for-tripping-twice-late-in-game/?fbclid=IwAR25w0tGVVKqExSxi4E6uCO0qFIQXNViJIAv5eUEUbp28c8GioHtujCpuTE Don't blame them for the loss. Blame them for not having the opportunity to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted November 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, Big Guy said: I'm not blaming the refs for this loss, but they did play a major part. Here are the 2 phantom tripping calls...... Cowboys Get Cheated By Refs vs Patriots, Called For “Tripping” Twice Late In Game https://dailysnark.com/cowboys-get-cheated-by-refs-vs-patriots-called-for-tripping-twice-late-in-game/?fbclid=IwAR25w0tGVVKqExSxi4E6uCO0qFIQXNViJIAv5eUEUbp28c8GioHtujCpuTE you think we weren't watching? 2 absolutely HORRIBLE calls. 2 of the worst I have ever seen, in the same game too. No excuse. The still couldn't score. That's why they lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted November 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, edjr said: you think we weren't watching? 2 absolutely HORRIBLE calls. 2 of the worst I have ever seen, in the same game too. No excuse. The still couldn't score. That's why they lost. Patriot fans should stay out of this. It's the rest of us without a dog in the fight who have the proper outlook. It happens too often with refs determining how a game will unfold. Take wins and losses out of it. Half the fans and betters will be happy. The rest of us were robbed of a compelling game, which is why we tuned in. I didn't care who won. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted November 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Patriot fans should stay out of this. right, I didn't admit they were 2 of the worst calls I have ever seen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted November 25, 2019 Just now, edjr said: right, I didn't admit they were 2 of the worst calls I have ever seen They were as bad as any calls you have ever seen. As bad as the Saints call last year? No. That was a playoff game. But the refs not getting it right is the theme. The second tripping call just didn't happen. A figment of the refs imagination. For some reason he wanted to call it. Why? I don't know. But he did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted November 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: They were as bad as any calls you have ever seen. As bad as the Saints call last year? No. That was a playoff game. But the refs not getting it right is the theme. The second tripping call just didn't happen. A figment of the refs imagination. For some reason he wanted to call it. Why? I don't know. But he did. There have been 9 tripping calls all year. 2 happened in that game and there was at least 1 in the Seahawks/Eagles game. My guess is that there was a memo sent to officials and that they were looking for tripping this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted November 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: There have been 9 tripping calls all year. 2 happened in that game and there was at least 1 in the Seahawks/Eagles game. My guess is that there was a memo sent to officials and that they were looking for tripping this week. Probably. And another instance of the leauge going about it all wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,945 Posted November 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: There have been 9 tripping calls all year. 2 happened in that game and there was at least 1 in the Seahawks/Eagles game. My guess is that there was a memo sent to officials and that they were looking for tripping this week. Probably so. There might also have been a NE player or coach in the ref's ear during game complaining about the Cowboys tripping them or sticking their legs out. Players and coaches are always jawing at the refs. Maybe it got to them this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted November 25, 2019 I simply don't know how you get tripping wrong. Either you see a trip or you don't. What happened yesterday isn't in the universe of tripping. I doubt you'll see another tripping call all year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 937 Posted November 25, 2019 35 minutes ago, edjr said: right, I didn't admit they were 2 of the worst calls I have ever seen Seeing that you're a Pats fan what was your take on this one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,995 Posted November 25, 2019 I know this is just Rapoport talking out his ass to make headlines.........but what a dream it would be! https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/ny-jason-garrett-pat-shurmur-dallas-cowboys-20191125-s5lfv3lnvnebvhk3wijwrqjj6u-story.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted November 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Cruzer said: I know this is just Rapoport talking out his ass to make headlines.........but what a dream it would be! https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/ny-jason-garrett-pat-shurmur-dallas-cowboys-20191125-s5lfv3lnvnebvhk3wijwrqjj6u-story.html Half of that is true. Garrett would not be welcomed by the fan base. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,995 Posted November 25, 2019 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Half of that is true. Garrett would not be welcomed by the fan base. Omg, how crazy would that be? lol He could never go out in the city - he'd have to live in a bubble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted November 25, 2019 53 minutes ago, nzoner said: Seeing that you're a Pats fan what was your take on this one? Not sure why I don't remember that. Brutal. Did not touch him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, TimmySmith said: I simply don't know how you get tripping wrong. Either you see a trip or you don't. What happened yesterday isn't in the universe of tripping. I doubt you'll see another tripping call all year. Now close your eyes and pretend the coaches could challenge all calls. Howdy Doody challenges both calls and loses 2 time outs and both challenges NFL is a farce 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted November 25, 2019 57 minutes ago, nzoner said: Seeing that you're a Pats fan what was your take on this one? You know how you know that's really bad ( besides the video proof) ? Brady didn't beg for the flag. Not that he's the only one that does it. It's the football equivalent of flopping in soccer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted November 25, 2019 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: You know how you know that's really bad ( besides the video proof) ? Brady didn't beg for the flag. Not that he's the only one that does it. It's the football equivalent of flopping in soccer. Before I watched the video, I fully expected tommy to be jumping up and down screaming for a call. The only thing that saves this is it wasn't 3rd down, it was 2nd and 7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 937 Posted November 25, 2019 24 minutes ago, edjr said: Not sure why I don't remember that. Brutal. Did not touch him. Even more brutal AFC Championship game and same play had happened earlier on Mahomes with no call,announcers even talk about it at end of video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted November 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, nzoner said: Even more brutal AFC Championship game and same play had happened earlier on Mahomes with no call,announcers even talk about it at end of video. It would be nice if just one important NFL game could be completed without the refs jacking it up someone. I don't recall anything from last years SuperBowl, off hand anyway. I am sure something happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 937 Posted November 25, 2019 23 minutes ago, edjr said: NFL is a farce As a betting man I'm sure you can appreciate last night,final minute or so spread easily decided at 38-7 but wait the total was 48 and here come the flags to keep the Packer drive alive and keep those over/under bettors on the edge of their seats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted November 25, 2019 The refs robbed the customers of what would have been a great Super Bowl last year. Brees vs Brady. Instead we got Goff and one of the worst, boring Superbowls ever played. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 937 Posted November 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: The refs robbed the customers of what would have been a great Super Bowl last year. Brees vs Brady. Instead we got Goff and one of the worst, boring Superbowls ever played. Having family in Louisiana we were hoping for Brees/Mahomes as we were traveling there for my niece's wedding.Ended up not even watching last years SB,first one missed in 40+ years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted November 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, nzoner said: As a betting man I'm sure you can appreciate last night,final minute or so spread easily decided at 38-7 but wait the total was 48 and here come the flags to keep the Packer drive alive and keep those over/under bettors on the edge of their seats. can't remember last time I did an O/U bet. Drives me crazy watching. My last bet I got absolutely chokefocked. I bet Baylor moneyline vs Oklahoma - $100 to make $450 Baylor up 31 to 10 at half time, so I stopped watching. Figure i'd check late in the game, tied 31 to 31, only to see Baylor not score another point and they lose 34 to 31 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted November 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, nzoner said: Having family in Louisiana we were hoping for Brees/Mahomes as we were traveling there for my niece's wedding.Ended up not even watching last years SB,first one missed in 40+ years. Picked a good one to skip. The blowouts are better than that crap last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,414 Posted November 25, 2019 Wow, a whole lot of non Cowboy football talk focking up my thread "Don't you have homes?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 937 Posted November 25, 2019 You should change the header to..... BIG GUY'S DALLAS COWBOYS 2018 & BEYOND THREAD 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted November 25, 2019 It's mine now. Told you I would be here. Not going away. But the wounds are too fresh, I'll be nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted November 25, 2019 Apparently, they had massive ratings for Dallas/NE yesterday https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/25/cowboys-patriots-game-draws-massive-tv-ratings/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted November 26, 2019 39 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: Apparently, they had massive ratings for Dallas/NE yesterday https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/25/cowboys-patriots-game-draws-massive-tv-ratings/ Shocked. Considering that Jax/ TN was the other game. BFD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,414 Posted November 26, 2019 I think this is the 3rd time this year that THEY got it wrong, screwing us over and then admitting it. Cowboys News: NFL Informed Dallas Tripping Penalty vs. Patriots Was Incorrect https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2864283-cowboys-news-nfl-informed-dallas-tripping-penalty-vs-patriots-was-incorrect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,414 Posted November 26, 2019 3 hours ago, nzoner said: You should change the header to..... BIG GUY'S DALLAS COWBOYS 2018 & BEYOND THREAD I simply don't want it muddied up with NON Cowboy fluff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,871 Posted November 26, 2019 8 hours ago, edjr said: you think we weren't watching? 2 absolutely HORRIBLE calls. 2 of the worst I have ever seen, in the same game too. No excuse. The still couldn't score. That's why they lost. Yep Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,945 Posted November 26, 2019 NFL admits mistake on tripping penalty. Thanks for nothing. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-tells-cowboys-gamealtering-tripping-penalty-should-not-have-been-called-020722942.html 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,414 Posted November 26, 2019 check out this chit..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,414 Posted November 26, 2019 22 hours ago, Cruzer said: I know this is just Rapoport talking out his ass to make headlines.........but what a dream it would be! https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/ny-jason-garrett-pat-shurmur-dallas-cowboys-20191125-s5lfv3lnvnebvhk3wijwrqjj6u-story.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted November 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, Big Guy said: check out this chit..... then read a few of these..... https://cowboyszone.com/threads/another-clip-of-refs-cheating-for-patriots.446564/ Two things: 1. Nice editing. If you look at where it is on the first time that it shows 2nd down, the line to gain was the 4. Of course that is not identified at all. Also, if 1st down was at the 15, then the Cowboys were cheating because the ball was well past that during the initial snap. 2. More importantly, the official chains are on the other side (the Cowboys sideline). The moving of the marker at the top of the screen has no bearing whatsoever on where the first down is. But let's not let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,414 Posted November 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: Two things: 1. Nice editing. If you look at where it is on the first time that it shows 2nd down, the line to gain was the 4. Of course that is not identified at all. Also, if 1st down was at the 15, then the Cowboys were cheating because the ball was well past that during the initial snap. 2. More importantly, the official chains are on the other side (the Cowboys sideline). The moving of the marker at the top of the screen has no bearing whatsoever on where the first down is. But let's not let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory. OK, I guess you're correct, but I've never seen the chains worked that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites