Dallas Cowboys 2018 & Beyond

[DonS 3,292]

2 hours ago, TimmySmith said:

NFL writers are really humping this non story about "dragging it out".  Why is allowing a contract to expire "dragging anything out"?

If Garrett's contract expires rather than getting fired, then he probably won't qualify for COBRA benefits, right? How cruel of Jerry. 

[Cruzer 1,995]

The Fan is reporting:

McCarthy's interview went so well, he stayed in town and never left..... Jerry said K. Moore, the Qb coach (Kitna) and O-line coach (Columbo) are all staying.

No mention of Marinelli staying - thank Gawd.

[Bert 1,128]

7 minutes ago, Cruzer said:

The Fan is reporting:

McCarthy's interview went so well, he stayed in town and never left..... Jerry said K. Moore, the Qb coach (Kitna) and O-line coach (Columbo) are all staying.

No mention of Marinelli staying - thank Gawd.

McCarthy has been hired.

[Gladiators 1,995]

McCarthy.  

[Cruzer 1,995]

4 minutes ago, Gladiators said:

McCarthy.  

You think this is funny - wait until they announce Jason Garrett as the new HC of the Giants.

 

[vuduchile 1,945]

15 minutes ago, Bert said:

McCarthy has been hired.

zzzzzz

[Mike Honcho 5,296]

1 minute ago, Cruzer said:

You think this is funny - wait until they announce Jason Garrett as the new HC of the Giants.

 

Packer fan chiming in...

McCarthy isn't bad-I've been reading that he has spend the last year self-evaluating every thing he's done as coach of the Packers, particularly at where the game has moved on and he had become stagnant.   If he adapts a bit, I think he could be a good fit with the current Cowboy team..that all being said, I don't know how well he is equipped to deal with JJ, and from the outside, JJ seems the biggest impediment to success in Dallas.  

Wish him well 

[Cruzer 1,995]

Just now, Mike Honcho said:

.... .he has spend the last year self-evaluating every thing he's done as coach of the Packers, particularly at where the game has moved on and he had become stagnant.   If he adapts a bit, I think he could be a good fit with the current Cowboy team.

Interesting enuff, a beat writer here (mike fisher) was speaking of this very thing/self evaluation - as far back as last week when McCarthy's name was 1st mentioned.

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1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said:

Packer fan chiming in...

McCarthy isn't bad-I've been reading that he has spend the last year self-evaluating every thing he's done as coach of the Packers, particularly at where the game has moved on and he had become stagnant.   If he adapts a bit, I think he could be a good fit with the current Cowboy team..that all being said, I don't know how well he is equipped to deal with JJ, and from the outside, JJ seems the biggest impediment to success in Dallas.  

Wish him well 

I don't see the relationship lasting long unless McCarthy is willing to let the puppet master have control.Good luck Mike but personally I don't see it working.

[Gladiators 1,995]

I think McCarthy is terrible.  It's one thing to self evaluate and say you're going to adapt, it's another to do it and do it correctly.  We shall see.

[Mike Honcho 5,296]

Mike McCarthy from The Athletic---need a subscription,  copy of the relevant stuff.

Quote

 

Shortly after his firing, he started The McCarthy Project, which consists of his former boss with the Saints (Jim Haslett) and two former Packers assistants who worked for McCarthy last year (ex- inside linebackers coach Scott McCurley and ex-quarterbacks coach Frank Cignetti, Jr.).

Together, they not only broke down film each week of the NFL’s 32 teams – including the Packers – but also spent time evaluating everything McCarthy did during a tenure that included eight straight playoff berths, three NFC Championship Game appearances and that Super Bowl XLV title.

“The best part professionally about this time is I’ve had to reflect. I’ve reflected on everything – coaching staff hirings, how you install (the playbook) … I’ve gone through every segment of my career,” said McCarthy, who went 135-85-2 (including 10-8 in the postseason) as Packers coach and hadn’t spent a football season out of the game since his coaching career began as a graduate assistant at Fort Hays State in 1987.

“The reality is in 13 years, I made a lot of decisions. At the end of the day, were those decisions in the best interest of winning that year? I don’t regret the decisions I made in the past because they were made with a sound evaluation process. But we all have to grow.”

McCarthy insists that he has. He says he’s taken a hard look at his offensive scheme – which, fair or not, drew criticism from some for being antiquated – and has incorporated many of the NFL’s trends while staying true to his core philosophies.

“Obviously, it’ll be quarterback driven. The offense has to be built around making the quarterback successful. That’s what I’ve always believed, and that won’t change,” McCarthy said. “But to keep up with the trends, there’ll probably be more shifts and motions."

 

 

 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

McCarthy benefitted from Rogers to be sure, BUT 9 playoff trips in 10 seasons can't be overlooked.  Now comes the Prescott saga. 

[Mike Honcho 5,296]

1 minute ago, TimmySmith said:

McCarthy benefitted from Rogers to be sure, BUT 9 playoff trips in 10 seasons can't be overlooked.  Now comes the Prescott saga. 

Benefited at the beginning, not so much the last few years. I think Rogers ego has gotten out of control though and he may not be coach-able anymore.  He complained about McCarthy's offense becoming stagnant, would audible out of nearly half the plays and got MM fired.   New coach gets there, talks about how there aren't many audible options in his offense and Rogers threw a bit of a hissy fit, until LaFleur added more audible opportunities for Aaron. Outside of the injuries, I put more of the results of the last few years on Rogers than MM.  

Just from outside observations of Prescott, I think that might be a pretty good fit between the two.   But, I'm clearly not see a lot or know that much about Dak.   

[Cruzer 1,995]

Who's offensive tree is McCarthy from? What style offense does he like to run? 

[Baker Boy 1,703]

17 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

McCarthy benefitted from Rogers to be sure, BUT 9 playoff trips in 10 seasons can't be overlooked.  Now comes the Prescott saga. 

Actually it is 9 appearances in 13 years and he missed the playoffs the last two years.

[Mike Honcho 5,296]

5 minutes ago, Cruzer said:

Who's offensive tree is McCarthy from? What style offense does he like to run? 

Bill Walsh:  McCarthy learned from Paul Hackett, who learned from Walsh.   Runs a standard WCO, but if we are to believe what he says, it will be modified to run more shifts, motions and plays designed to scheme guys more open.   

[Cruzer 1,995]

2 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Bill Walsh:  McCarthy learned from Paul Hackett, who learned from Walsh.   Runs a standard WCO, but if we are to believe what he says, it will be modified to run more shifts, motions and plays designed to scheme guys more open.   

Man that would be fantastic. I've been begging for somebody to get Dak into something like that. He is way more suited for a WCO style than anything else.

We shall see.

[Mike Honcho 5,296]

4 minutes ago, Cruzer said:

Man that would be fantastic. I've been begging for somebody to get Dak into something like that. He is way more suited for a WCO style than anything else.

We shall see.

Last thing off the top of my head is that MM is he is WAY TOO loyal to his assistants.   That probably cost him at least one more appearance in a SB, because he held on to Capers and special teams coaches way past when they just weren't providing effective schemes, leadership anymore.   It will be important for him to get the right guys around him on the first try, cause he will give guys loyal to him too many chances.   

Boring guy at press conferences, all coach speak, but a solid if not cutting edge choice.   Good luck, I hope he finishes 2nd to the Packers every year in the NFC for years to come. 

[Cruzer 1,995]

13 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Last thing off the top of my head is that MM is he is WAY TOO loyal to his assistants.   That probably cost him at least one more appearance in a SB, because he held on to Capers and special teams coaches way past when they just weren't providing effective schemes, leadership anymore.   It will be important for him to get the right guys around him on the first try, cause he will give guys loyal to him too many chances.   

Boring guy at press conferences, all coach speak, but a solid if not cutting edge choice.   Good luck, I hope he finishes 2nd to the Packers every year in the NFC for years to come. 

Well, he does have a kick ass record in Jerry World!

There's talk here this a.m. of Mike Nolan coming to be DC.

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1 hour ago, Cruzer said:

It's official -

Mike McCarthy IS the Dallas new HC.

I just threw up in my mouth...

[listen2me 23 1,874]

Hes not the worst. 

Most everyone was happy to see him leave GB though.  

Cant be worse than Garrett. 

Bizarre way they went about this whole situation.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

39 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Actually it is 9 appearances in 13 years and he missed the playoffs the last two years.

Actually we are both right.  And 9 appearances in 10 or 13 is impressive.  I did agree with his firing from GB, he had run his course.  

[Cruzer 1,995]

Apparently MM has totally embraced the "analytics" approach. Looks like he's assembling a huge team of #'s crunchers and geeks to head this up.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2020/1/6/21051553/dallas-cowboys-take-a-deep-dive-into-the-new-mike-mccarthy-including-his-thoughts-on-analytics

[Cruzer 1,995]

Mike Nolan has been hired as the new DC.

[posty 2,714]

5 hours ago, Cruzer said:

You think this is funny - wait until they announce Jason Garrett as the new HC of the Giants.

That would be funny as hell...

[Big Guy 1,413]

UGH!!! 

[Big Guy 1,413]

 

[Big Guy 1,413]

Can you tell by now I'm using this as a personal Dallas Cowboy Time Capsule?  

You guys chiming in is just icing on the Cake.

This needs to be here....

 

 

[Cruzer 1,995]

On 1/6/2020 at 5:42 PM, Big Guy said:

UGH!!! 

The dust has settled and after having time to process it all  - I've concluded something.

I'm on board............... I'm not only on board with this hire, I'm rather excited about it. How so?

* McCarthy didn't just take year off from football. He took a year off and worked his ass off. He and his team did a complete self-evaluation of his entire GB career - they literally sat down in a room, watched every game tape - and totally revamped his coaching approach. They diagnosed his strengths, his weaknesses, what he needed to do better.

* McCarthy is not only going to use analytics, but he's amassing an entire team to study and break them down.

* McCarthy OWNED Jason Garrett. If anyone knows the weaknesses of this Cowboys team - it's him. And when you know your faults, you know where and how to get better.

[Big Guy 1,413]

6 minutes ago, Cruzer said:

The dust has settled and after having time to process it all  - I've concluded something.

I'm on board............... I'm not only on board with this hire, I'm rather excited about it. How so?

* McCarthy didn't just take year off from football. He took a year off and worked his ass off. He and his team did a complete self-evaluation of his entire GB career - they literally sat down in a room, watched every game tape - and totally revamped his coaching approach. They diagnosed his strengths, his weaknesses, what he needed to do better.

* McCarthy is not only going to use analytics, but he's amassing an entire team to study and break them down.

* McCarthy OWNED Jason Garrett. If anyone knows the weaknesses of this Cowboys team - it's him. And when you know your faults, you know where and how to get better.

I am now as well 

Nolan & Fassel are upgrades as well

We shall see

[Cruzer 1,995]

Just now, Big Guy said:

I am now as well 

Nolan & Fassel are upgrades as well

Omg, I forgot to include that as well.

Yes - the "clean house" factor can not be undersold. The fact McCarthy is cleaning house and bringing in his own people already shows he's been given more power than Garrett. In fact, I bet Garrett is fuming at the sight of McCarthy getting to hire/fire his own staff - Red was never given that authority.

Marinelli leaving is going to be almost as huge as Red - now if Jerry will only focus on the defense early on in the draft.

[Big Guy 1,413]

BONES!  

 

 

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[Big Guy 1,413]

too funny not to share 

 

 

[Big Guy 1,413]

Jimmy Johnson 328 

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,510]

Now that JJ is in the HOF, think Jerruh can get around to putting him in the ring of honor? 

[Cruzer 1,995]

21 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Now that JJ is in the HOF, think Jerruh can get around to putting him in the ring of honor? 

If he puts him now, it looks like he did it just bcoz of the HOF selection.... If he doesn't, he's a priick for still not acknowledging his greatness.

JJ is stuck - either way he's gonna look like an ass...... deservedly so.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,510]

3 minutes ago, Cruzer said:

If he puts him now, it looks like he did it just bcoz of the HOF selection.... If he doesn't, he's a priick for still not acknowledging his greatness.

JJ is stuck - either way he's gonna look like an ass...... deservedly so.

Time to rip the band-aid off. I get that it’s hard for Jerry, I’m sure Jimmy ripped him behind his back and to his face. Jimmy is probably considered a villain in the Jones family. But the guy built something special with not a lot to start with. It carried the Cowboys for a long time and made them crazy rich. Get on with it. 

[Mike Honcho 5,296]

After watching this weekends games, I changed my mind, they should have hired Eric Bieniemy --- 

[Bert 1,128]

3 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

After watching this weekends games, I changed my mind, they should have hired Eric Bieniemy --- 

Unfortunately the Cowboys don't play 900 year old defensive coordinators with a horrible head coach every week.