LeBron is a focking loser

[nobody 2,557]

Lebron is the biggest, strongest, fastest player on the court.  You guys act like he wouldn't adjust to physical play because he adjusted to the officiating now.  

You're holding him to a higher standard than anyone else.  He'd have to dominate any era, but no one else is held to that criteria.  Jordan essentially played by his own officiating separate from the rest of the league.  No one ever seems to mention that.  

 

[TBayXXXVII 2,481]

17 minutes ago, nobody said:

People are just talking out of their asses then.  None of you have seen wilt, Oscar Robertson, or bill Russell play on a regular basis, so by your criteria no one here is qualified to determine the goat.  But I guess it's obvious by most of the comments here that 95% of you don't watch basketball on a regular basis anyway.

Yeah, a guy who won 11 championships in 13 seasons and is STILL #2 rebounder in NBA history, and a 5-time league MVP needs to be watched to know how great/dominant he was.

A guy who lead the NBA in scoring his first 6 years in the league... averaged over 33 ppg 8 times, averaged 40 ppg once and 50 ppg once.  Is currently still in the top 10 in scoring, still #1 in rebounding, a 4-time league MVP, and 11-time rebounding leader, oh and he was also so dominant, that the league changed a rule, strictly to limit how dominant he was.  Yeah, he to be watched to know how great/dominant he was. 

Come on dude.

Just as a side note... if I never watched LeBron, Jordan, Wilt, or Russell, aren't I more qualified to judge them equally than you, since you've only watched LeBron and Jordan?

[TBayXXXVII 2,481]

5 minutes ago, nobody said:

Lebron is the biggest, strongest, fastest player on the court.  You guys act like he wouldn't adjust to physical play because he adjusted to the officiating now.  

You're holding him to a higher standard than anyone else.  He'd have to dominate any era, but no one else is held to that criteria.  Jordan essentially played by his own officiating separate from the rest of the league.  No one ever seems to mention that.  

 

Players are coddled way more today by their league-mates, officials, and league WAY more than back in the day.  LeBron cries now when no one touches him.  He'd literally be crying for his mom if he had to play in the 60's, 70's, and 80's.  He's such a baby.

If Wilt and Russell, had todays rules and technology/money, like LeBron did, they'd have averaged 75 points and 50 rebounds a game.

[nobody 2,557]

4 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

 

Just as a side note... if I never watched LeBron, Jordan, Wilt, or Russell, aren't I more qualified to judge them equally than you, since you've only watched LeBron and Jordan?

No.  The fact that you think that is rather telling

 

 

[nobody 2,557]

4 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

 

If Wilt and Russell, had todays rules and technology/money, like LeBron did, they'd have averaged 75 points and 50 rebounds a game.

No they wouldn't.  

Today's game is all about skilled swing men.  In that era it was all about dumping it into the post every single possession.  

This is sad.  

[TBayXXXVII 2,481]

2 minutes ago, nobody said:

No.  The fact that you think that is rather telling

 

 

I'm giving equal weight based on results.  You're favoring one group over another, despite the evidence.  So yes, it's very telling where both of us are coming from.

[League Champion 1,896]

5 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Players are coddled way more today by their league-mates, officials, and league WAY more than back in the day.  LeBron cries now when no one touches him.  He'd literally be crying for his mom if he had to play in the 60's, 70's, and 80's.  He's such a baby.

He'd absolutely dominate the 60's to 80's. He's an Adonis compared to those jobbers. Nobody back then was as conditioned or as strong as Lebron. He'd absolutely abuse 95% of those old timers. He's faster stronger bigger, more agile and a far superior athlete. 

It wouldn't even be fair. 

AND I'M ANTI-LEBRON 

[TBayXXXVII 2,481]

Just now, League Champion said:

He'd absolutely dominate the 60's to 80's. He's an Adonis compared to those jobbers. Nobody back then was as conditioned or as strong as Lebron. He'd absolutely abuse 95% of those old timers. He's faster stronger bigger, more agile and a far superior athlete. 

It wouldn't even be fair. 

AND I'M ANTI-LEBRON 

If LeBron was born in 40's or 50's, he'd have been a post up big man in 60's and 70's.  He is what he is because of what he grew up with in the 90's.

[League Champion 1,896]

Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

If LeBron was born in 40's or 50's, he'd have been a post up big man in 60's and 70's.  He is what he is because of what he grew up with in the 90's.

The guy is a stud in any era. If you can't see that then you don't know basketball. 

Lebron would run circles around those cats, they were slow as molasses compared to him. Nobody would be able to guard him. 

They weren't athletes back then, they were basketball players. He'd abuse them in all aspects of the game. 

[KSB2424 3,148]

On 2/28/2023 at 12:51 PM, nobody said:

Not a single one of those guys would've dragged those sorry cavs teams to a finals.

As much as I hate what LeBron has become @nobody is correct.  He just is.....

[KSB2424 3,148]

LeBron and MJ are the two best basketball players I've ever seen.  I'm 47.  I personally rank MJ 1 and LeBron 2  but I won't argue with anyone who flips it. 

I caught the late Kareem and vividly remember the Magic and Bird era.  Obviously Kobe, Duncan, Hakeem and Shaq plus the new guys like KD, Steph.

MJ and LeBron are the top in their own tier.  It's not even a question. A "DUH!" statement. 

[phillybear 366]

On 2/28/2023 at 12:51 PM, nobody said:

Not a single one of those guys would've dragged those sorry cavs teams to a finals.

When they look back at the anals of history, people are going to be talking about three things: the discovery of fire, invention of the submarine, and the Flint Michigan Mega Bowl. And how Lebron James could never lead his team to win the Flint Michigan Mega Bowl. 

FACE!!!

[League Champion 1,896]

8 hours ago, phillybear said:

When they look back at the anals of history, people are going to be talking about three things: the discovery of fire, invention of the submarine, and the Flint Michigan Mega Bowl. And how Lebron James could never lead his team to win the Flint Michigan Mega Bowl. 

FACE!!!

And he has zero NHL scoring titles. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,481]

13 hours ago, League Champion said:

The guy is a stud in any era. If you can't see that then you don't know basketball. 

Lebron would run circles around those cats, they were slow as molasses compared to him. Nobody would be able to guard him. 

They weren't athletes back then, they were basketball players. He'd abuse them in all aspects of the game. 

LOL, yes, a person who grew up with the advancement in technology and nutrition of today, would run circles around people who never had that in an era where said advancements didn't exist.

[Strike 5,184]

I was never a Lebron fan but man he is just a shell of his former self.  Just jacking up threes last night that weren't even close.  

[supermike80 1,799]

4 minutes ago, Strike said:

I was never a Lebron fan but man he is just a shell of his former self.  Just jacking up threes last night that weren't even close.  

That's all the NBA is anymore.   a 3 point shooting contest.  It's boring

[Strike 5,184]

2 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

That's all the NBA is anymore.   a 3 point shooting contest.  It's boring

This is true for much of the NBA but not 100%, but you do you.

[supermike80 1,799]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

This is true for much of the NBA but not 100%, but you do you.

Wait.You mean every single shot isn't a 3 pointer?   Wow..Thats quite the correction on your part.   

[Cloaca du jour 2,147]

Moon Landing

[RogerDodger 797]

42 minutes ago, Strike said:

I was never a Lebron fan but man he is just a shell of his former self.  Just jacking up threes last night that weren't even close.  

His legs (assuming knees) look like a 60 year old man walking out there.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

2 hours ago, Strike said:

I was never a Lebron fan but man he is just a shell of his former self.  Just jacking up threes last night that weren't even close.  

hes a linebacker with speed.  if he drives into the paint in the 4th quarter, the other team hard fouls him to the ground to try to injure him because theres no other way to stop him.  his career mightve ended at age 32 if he kept doing that.  the refs wont penalize other teams for doing that enough to stop it, so it evolves into a 3 point shooting contest.

[edjr 6,578]

On 3/1/2023 at 8:14 PM, KSB2424 said:

LeBron and MJ are the two best basketball players I've ever seen.  I'm 47.  I personally rank MJ 1 and LeBron 2  but I won't argue with anyone who flips it. 

I caught the late Kareem and vividly remember the Magic and Bird era.  Obviously Kobe, Duncan, Hakeem and Shaq plus the new guys like KD, Steph.

MJ and LeBron are the top in their own tier.  It's not even a question. A "DUH!" statement. 

Bird did far more with way less and white. 

[The Real timschochet 6,402]

2 hours ago, Strike said:

I was never a Lebron fan but man he is just a shell of his former self.  Just jacking up threes last night that weren't even close.  

He had a a bad shooting night on the road. He’ll do much better at home. This series is far from over. 

[Strike 5,184]

9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

He had a a bad shooting night on the road. He’ll do much better at home. This series is far from over. 

How about a ban bet?   Nuggets win you leave and never come back?  

[Gepetto 1,288]

2 hours ago, Strike said:

I was never a Lebron fan but man he is just a shell of his former self.  Just jacking up threes last night that weren't even close.  

Don't forget key turnovers in last minute of the two losses against the Nuggets and a couple blown layups last night.

 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

bird, jordan, kobe, lbj were all profilic shooters that had amazing accuracy.  lbj led the league in shooting efficiency for 6 years at one point.  but the difference is that lbj does it in the body of a linebacker so everyone is like "oh dear god hes unstoppable".

[Strike 5,184]

2 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

Don't forget key turnovers in last minute of the two losses against the Nuggets and a couple blown layups last night.

 

Yeah, that breakaway when he was gonna try some super dunk with one hand and dropped the ball out of bounds was classic. 

[avoiding injuries 1,505]

Sad

[JustinCharge 2,397]

5 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

Sad

lebron is nowhere near 100% right now.  he wouldnt even be playing due to the ankle but its the west finals.  he probably tweaked the ankle right there.  not a flop just genuine pain.

[thegeneral 2,889]

Top 5 player all time no questions, arguably right behind MJ.

[listen2me 23 1,825]

41 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

Sad

Super sad.  Pathetic.  

[posty 2,609]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

How about a ban bet?   Nuggets win you leave and never come back?  

LOL...  HT will welch on it...

[posty 2,609]

53 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

Sad

LeBron wouldn't have fallen if he didn't push off so hard...

[posty 2,609]

55 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

Sad

Then a little later...

 

[posty 2,609]

This quote by LeBron is so funny...

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/lebron-james-flop-video-lakers-nuggets-leflop/gqzcdj43rbzaelaydix64dau

"I just know that we, our coaching staff and us players, we don't work on flopping... That's not even a part of our game. Our game is to attack, attack the paint. We don't mind physical contact. We actually like the contact and we don't shy away from it, so we're just not a team that goes out there looking for flopping opportunities. 

"That's just not us. It's never been — it's actually never been any team that I've played on in my 20 years, where we've been a flopping team. But it is what it is, they have their right to say what they want to say."