Official President Trump Impeachment Inquiry Thread

[drobeski 3,061]

15 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Answered

 

Fail on all accounts

[Mike Honcho 5,297]

42 minutes ago, drobeski said:

So the facts that are know known to date..

Trump favor request was explicitly regarded the 2016 Russian collusion scam. The transcript verifies this. 

The Ukraine president has publicly stated he wasnt pressured.

An anonymous CIA agent who not only supports but works for a 2020 candidate filed a 3rd hand whistleblower complaint. The rules for whistleblower needed changed to make this phony rat a qualified whistleblower.  

This so called whistleblower went to team Schiff with his concerns prior to going to the IG , thus technically disqualifying him as a whistleblower.  

The first whistleblower set up has been exposed to be a fraud, so now we have a second so called  whistleblower.  

Did I miss anything ?

Oh wait, I got another one...

Clearly not any meals!!!

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

8 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Stop reading Breitbart and and Gateway Pundit for your news sources. The entire world is not out to get Trump. That’s just a super convenient narrative for him to use to excuse all his crap away.

Face the facts. Trump has always been a shitty human being. Becoming president, didn’t magically transform him into the savior of the USA.

I posted facts. You're too busy swallowing whatever the MSM tells you to fit the narrative they're selling you.

John Solomon is the journalist breaking those documents out of hiding. He writes for the left of center The Hill. https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/463307-solomon-these-once-secret-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story#.XY02ewYDEV8.twitter

I don't give two squirts of p!ss what you or anyone else thinks about Trump. The guy is putting America first and getting results. You'd rather have some focktard liberal up on a podium lying to you and selling influence so long as they remain 'diplomatic'. Screw that.

 

[drobeski 3,061]

5 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

The form always said the IG CANNOT process a complaint with second hand knowledge, now it doesn't.  Who is being duped. 

They are that retarded. It's like bringing your car in to be detailed with gray seats,  and when done they are bl

 

13 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Stop reading Breitbart and and Gateway Pundit for your news sources. The entire world is not out to get Trump. That’s just a super convenient narrative for him to use to excuse all his crap away.

Face the facts. Trump has always been a shitty human being. Becoming president, didn’t magically transform him into the savior of the USA.

Dumb 

[Reality 3,121]

2 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

I’m just a schmuck in an office behind a keyboard.  But here are......

Things I don’t know:   All the “Impeachment” laws, in’s and out’s yada yada.  

Things I do know:  The Ukraine President said there was no pressure to do anything.   Current Libs will do anything, I mean anything to undermine the current POTUS. 

So here I sit with my hands up, thinking that there is an election just 13 months away. Let America speak then.  

 

Normal people, including left leaning folks (not psycho's who spend all day on message boards), are sick of all this garbage.  Cried wolf 1 too many times.  This won't end well for Democrats. 

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

23 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

You do know that a change to the form didn’t change the law, right? The law has always been that first hand knowledge is not necessary. It states clearly in the article, that the changes to the forms were to clear up that misconception. 

Stop reading conspiracy sites... 

What is a valid reason to back date a change to a form to prior to a whistle blower complaint?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

So libtards, after Trump is tossed out of office, then what? Does America become a sanctuary country? How many people can we let in? Lots and lots want to come here. And who's  buying? 

 

[RLLD 4,254]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So libtards, after Trump is tossed out of office, then what? Does America become a sanctuary country? How many people can we let in? Lots and lots want to come here. And who's  buying? 

 

Meh, he won get removed, that is not even possible here and the Dem's know it.

This is about doing what ever it takes to impede him being re-elected which they know they are helpless to stop otherwise.  This is their only hope.... and I expect it to get worse over time.

It wont work, it likely backfires, but when you are desperate you do what you have to. Being denied power ans control over people is proving to be more than they can take.

[OldMaid 2,130]

5 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

What is a valid reason to back date a change to a form to prior to a whistle blower complaint?

https://fortune.com/2019/10/01/whistleblower-rules-changed-laws/

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Just now, RLLD said:

Meh, he won get removed, that is not even possible here and the Dem's know it.

This is about doing what ever it takes to impede him being re-elected which they know they are helpless to stop otherwise.  This is their only hope.... and I expect it to get worse over time.

It wont work, it likely backfires, but when you are desperate you do what you have to. Being denied power ans control over people is proving to be more than they can take.

They're desperate to stay out of prison. The only way that happens is if they can get the White House and shut down the DOJ..........AGAIN.

[OldMaid 2,130]

When the only place your facts come from are right leaning... you might be getting ‘alternative’ facts.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

1 minute ago, OldMaid said:

https://fortune.com/2019/10/01/whistleblower-rules-changed-laws/

Nope.............no spin.

What is a valid reason for back dating a change he made prior to (at least a month) a whistle blower complaint? It's quite obvious there is no valid reason other than to cover up a minor detail they forgot. 

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

2 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

When the only place your facts come from are right leaning... you might be getting ‘alternative’ facts.

Where are you getting your facts from? Are you seriously considering them center?

I posted an article from the Hill. Please show us a link to where John Solomon has EVER been wrong. 

[OldMaid 2,130]

9 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

Nope.............no spin.

What is a valid reason for back dating a change he made prior to (at least a month) a whistle blower complaint? It's quite obvious there is no valid reason other than to cover up a minor detail they forgot. 

You’re so far down the rabbit hole, the only place peddling this crap are right wing conspiracy websites. That’s the problem with this stuff, only a very small subset is "reporting’ this crap, because everyone else knows it’s absurd. So fact checking it becomes rather difficult. Which in turn only further fuels you conspiracy theory nuts.

If even 1/4 of what you post was true, every single news agency would be all over it. Why? Because it would sell. 

[The Observer 641]

36 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

If the Democrats spent 1/10th the amount of energy they do on Trump with actually trying to make America better for their constituents they represent in Congress, it’d be nice to see.  

Like coming up with a bipartisan background check bill?   Guess where that sits? 

[The Observer 641]

28 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

I’m just a schmuck in an office behind a keyboard.  But here are......

Things I don’t know:   All the “Impeachment” laws, in’s and out’s yada yada.  

Things I do know:  The Ukraine President said there was no pressure to do anything.   Current Libs will do anything, I mean anything to undermine the current POTUS. 

So here I sit with my hands up, thinking that there is an election just 13 months away. Let America speak then.  

 

Let's wait till Trump is out of office to ask the Ukraine president how much pressure he felt. WTF do you think he's going to say?  He needs the US desperately. He's not going to say anything damaging about the president.

[OldMaid 2,130]

9 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

Where are you getting your facts from? Are you seriously considering them center?

I posted an article from the Hill. Please show us a link to where John Solomon has EVER been wrong. 

I used BBC, USA Today and Fortune in these replies.

[RLLD 4,254]

Just now, OldMaid said:

I used BBC, USA Today and Fortune in these replies.

[The Observer 641]

22 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So libtards, after Trump is tossed out of office, then what? Does America become a sanctuary country? How many people can we let in? Lots and lots want to come here. And who's  buying? 

 

Immigration was at a 50 year low when Obama left office.  Trump f*cked it all up. Problem was being handled. It'll continue to be handled once a real leader is in office.

[The Observer 641]

1 minute ago, OldMaid said:

I used BBC

This is a story I'd be interested in hearing.  Is it true what they say?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

9 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

You’re so far down the rabbit hole, the only place peddling this crap are right wing conspiracy websites. That’s the problem with this stuff, only a very small subset is "reporting’ this crap, because everyone else knows it’s absurd. So fact checking it becomes rather difficult. Which in turn only further fuels you conspiracy theory nuts.

If even 1/4 of what you post was true, every single news agency would be all over it. Why? Because it would sell. 

So you have no valid reason. I'll accept your concession.

And the news media is at the very least complicit in the effort against Trump. They've been caught in lie after lie with the Russian Collusion crap, Kavanaugh crap and now this debacle. They're still saying Trump is ignoring subpoenas by the House. The House hasn't issued subpoenas.

5 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

I used BBC, USA Today and Fortune in these replies.

All left of center. Mmmmmmmmmmkay?

[iam90sbaby 2,621]

Repeal the 19th

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

2 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

So you have no valid reason. I'll accept your concession.

All left of center. Mmmmmmmmmmkay?

So, what should be used.  Fox News can't be used because they are pretty far right.  A news source that is closer to the center seems to be the best option.

[drobeski 3,061]

25 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

When the only place your facts come from are right leaning... you might be getting ‘alternative’ facts.

And the other way around ? 

[The Observer 641]

5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

So, what should be used.  Fox News can't be used because they are pretty far right.  A news source that is closer to the center seems to be the best option.

In his mind, and unfortunately, most Trump supporters, Fox News is dead center. The beacon of truth. And every other news outlet is left or far left.  This is why they see things in such a cloudy, convoluted way. They are never told the facts. Or the truth. And when a Chris Wallace or Shep Smith finally decide to speak the truth and stop following the Trump playbook, Fox viewers are livid and want them fired.

[drobeski 3,061]

13 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Let's wait till Trump is out of office to ask the Ukraine president how much pressure he felt. WTF do you think he's going to say?  He needs the US desperately. He's not going to say anything damaging about the president.

So we should rely on an anonymous 3rd hand CIA democrat supporting operative for the truth ?

Good one

[The Observer 641]

3 minutes ago, drobeski said:

So we should rely on an anonymous 3rd hand CIA democrat supporting operative for the truth ?

Good one

I'm fine just relying on Trump's words.  HTH

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

13 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

So, what should be used.  Fox News can't be used because they are pretty far right.  A news source that is closer to the center seems to be the best option.

I use Brietbart, Conservative Treehouse, John Solomon as well as other journalists. If you disagree with any of those, please show where they've been wrong.

The effort to keep believing the MSM at this point is baffling. They've been caught in lie after lie as well as outright buffoonish behavior.

Question: what site has accurately portrayed what the Democrats are doing by using the House Intel Committee instead of the usual House Judiciary Committee? Conservative Treehouse. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/10/08/big-picture-white-house-responds-to-speaker-pelosi-unconstitutional-impeachment-effort-full-pdf-and-background/

Do you even know why they're doing that? It's so that all testimony is behind closed doors and without Republicans present. Why would they want to hide that? The answer is simple enough. They want to lie about the testimony and who will be the wiser.

 

You guys are being conned on a level unprecedented in human history and you don't even realize it. Or more frightening is the possibility that you are willfully ignorant so long as you agree with it politically.

[The Observer 641]

We need a :cuckoo: emoji

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

17 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Immigration was at a 50 year low when Obama left office.  Trump f*cked it all up. Problem was being handled. It'll continue to be handled once a real leader is in office.

Well that's a relief. Great news! How will this real leader handle it? What's the plan? I await your non-answer. Because you don't have one. The plan please. 

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

1 minute ago, The Observer said:

We need a :cuckoo: emoji

Link

[OldMaid 2,130]

6 minutes ago, The Observer said:

We need a :cuckoo: emoji

Filthy should change his screen name to Don Quixote. 

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Just now, OldMaid said:

Filthy should change his screen name to Don Quixote. 

Still no valid reason to back date that change? 

Change your name to 'She with head in sand/up own a$$' 

[The Observer 641]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Well that's a relief. Great news! How will this real leader handle it? What's the plan? I await your non-answer. Because you don't have one. The plan please. 

Why do I need a plan? Am I running for president?  Again, since you ignore what you don't have an answer for, illegal immigration was at a 50 year LOW when Obama left office.  Then under Trump, it hit a 17 year HIGH.  The guys who likes to say he's tough on immigration has totally screwed up the progress we've made.  I don't know the plan, just as I didn't know the plan under Obama.  But I bet the Barrack would have no problem sitting down with the next president and explaining it to him/her.

 

[The Observer 641]

2 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Filthy should change his screen name to Don Quixote. 

Is Arthur Jones taken?

[TimmySmith 2,782]

45 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

https://fortune.com/2019/10/01/whistleblower-rules-changed-laws/

So he changed it to do exactly what the right is claiming.  But you still haven't addressed the timing.  Although the IG did claim to do it "earlier in the year".  What exactly is the date of "earlier in the year?".

[OldMaid 2,130]

2 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

Still no valid reason to back date that change? 

Change your name to 'She with head in sand/up own a$$' 

Please prove the change was backdated. TIA

 

[Reality 3,121]

9 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

Do you even know why they're doing that? It's so that all testimony is behind closed doors and without Republicans present. Why would they want to hide that? The answer is simple enough. They want to lie about the testimony and who will be the wiser.

This but, they will completely ignore it.

Trump is smart not to fall for this garbage though.

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

7 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

I use Brietbart, Conservative Treehouse, John Solomon as well as other journalists. If you disagree with any of those, please show where they've been wrong.

The effort to keep believing the MSM at this point is baffling. They've been caught in lie after lie as well as outright buffoonish behavior.

Question: what site has accurately portrayed what the Democrats are doing by using the House Intel Committee instead of the usual House Judiciary Committee? Conservative Treehouse.

Do you even know why they're doing that? It's so that all testimony is behind closed doors and without Republicans present. Why would they want to hide that? The answer is simple enough. They want to lie about the testimony and who will be the wiser.

 

You guys are being conned on a level unprecedented in human history and you don't even realize it. Or more frightening is the possibility that you are willfully ignorant so long as you agree with it politically.

How are any of those you listed not biased towards the right?  How are they so much better than something biased towards the left.  Just because you agree with them doesn't make them better.

Didn't Solomon just get called out for a bogus story on Comey?  I don't see how he is any better and is just another journalist telling you what you like to hear.

[RLLD 4,254]

In terms of News outlets I see Fox as being basically what it always has been, so the fact that it now seems the most centrist of all sources says alot about how many media outlets have changed.