Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 31, 2019 24 minutes ago, MDC said: Wait a minute: Did the IMF want this same prosecutor dismissed? Wasn’t the prosecutor investigating Burisma for things they allegedly did before Hunter was fired? Simple yes or no please thanks. The prosecutor was fired while Hunter was working there and mere hours after Biden made the threat. The prosecutor signed a sworn statement that Hunter Biden was to be interviewed as part of that investigation. U.S. officials made up accusations and once Shokin was fired, they apologized and tried to make ammends. https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/463307-solomon-these-once-secret-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story?amp&__twitter_impression=true Also, your assertion doesn't match the facts much less the other lie your party is telling. If he was investigating Burisma prior to Hunter working there then it conflicts with the story several nations & Biden wanted him fired for not fighting corruption. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted October 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Filthy Fernadez said: Also, your assertion doesn't match the facts much less the other lie your party is telling. If he was investigating Burisma prior to Hunter working there then it conflicts with the story several nations & Biden wanted him fired for not fighting corruption. They mean fighting "other" corruption. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intense Observer 344 Posted October 31, 2019 9 hours ago, BirdGang said: Maybe you are better off hiding in your safe space where your out of touch with reality views are protected and coddled? Let's not run off Hawkeye, he is a quality anti Trump poster, they are the type that are good to have around for discussion/debate. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,514 Posted October 31, 2019 10 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said: The prosecutor was fired while Hunter was working there and mere hours after Biden made the threat. The prosecutor signed a sworn statement that Hunter Biden was to be interviewed as part of that investigation. U.S. officials made up accusations and once Shokin was fired, they apologized and tried to make ammends. https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/463307-solomon-these-once-secret-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story?amp&__twitter_impression=true Also, your assertion doesn't match the facts much less the other lie your party is telling. If he was investigating Burisma prior to Hunter working there then it conflicts with the story several nations & Biden wanted him fired for not fighting corruption. Yes or no: 1. The IMF wanted the same prosecutor fired. 2. The prosecutor was investigating the company in relation to events that happened before Hunter’s time there. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intense Observer 344 Posted October 31, 2019 The fact that Nancy is too chicken shite to call an actual impeachment vote should be enough for everyone to see this for the sham it is. If the House had any faith in their evidence they would bring impeachment. Instead we get this "inquiry" vote with special rules to prevent any questions or witnesses that might contradict the narrative they are pushing. The only goal is to muddy the waters and obstruct POTUS from carrying out his duties as head of the executive branch. It plays well to the OMB Fringe but moderates and non-political Americans only see a never ending tantrum. "Trump should be impeached because he asked a foreign country to help investigate corruption involving their country and our own government" Jigaa please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 31, 2019 18 minutes ago, MDC said: Yes or no: 1. The IMF wanted the same prosecutor fired. 2. The prosecutor was investigating the company in relation to events that happened before Hunter’s time there. Thanks. Why does the IMF matter ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted October 31, 2019 17 minutes ago, MDC said: Yes or no: 1. The IMF wanted the same prosecutor fired. 2. The prosecutor was investigating the company in relation to events that happened before Hunter’s time there. Thanks. So Biden got the guy fired for investigating Hunter's company BEFORE he worked there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,942 Posted October 31, 2019 1 hour ago, MDC said: Wasn’t the IMF and other countries also pushing for the prosecutor’s firing, before Hunter worked for the Ukrainian energy company? https://johnsolomonreports.com/debunking-some-of-the-ukraine-scandal-myths-about-biden-and-election-interference/ Your stupid schit is blown up by the facts. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,514 Posted October 31, 2019 30 minutes ago, MDC said: Yes or no: 1. The IMF wanted the same prosecutor fired. 2. The prosecutor was investigating the company in relation to events that happened before Hunter’s time there. Thanks. Beuller? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted October 31, 2019 The IMF is one of the most corrupt organizations on earth. Sheeez, using them as a source just speaks to ignorance. May as well ask Goldman Sachs how they feel about the SEC. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,942 Posted October 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, MDC said: Beuller? Your asinine arguments are squashed by the link I posted. Anyway, this thread is about the attempted coup by the Democrats against Trump. What evidence can you bring to the table in support of your heroes? Facts only, not assumptions and accusations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted October 31, 2019 12 minutes ago, MDC said: Beuller? Dumbass. God, can you get any more stupid than you currently are? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 31, 2019 48 minutes ago, MDC said: Yes or no: 1. The IMF wanted the same prosecutor fired. 2. The prosecutor was investigating the company in relation to events that happened before Hunter’s time there. Thanks. You understand that can be true AS WELL AS the facts I've posted can be true, right? Yes or No Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,514 Posted October 31, 2019 Just now, Filthy Fernadez said: You understand that can be true AS WELL AS the facts I've posted can be true, right? Yes or No Just answers please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 31, 2019 29 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: https://johnsolomonreports.com/debunking-some-of-the-ukraine-scandal-myths-about-biden-and-election-interference/ Your stupid schit is blown up by the facts. Since MDC won't read your link, allow me to highlight the part that stump breaks him like Brokeback Mountain. "Myth: Ukraine’s investigation into Burisma Holdings was no longer active when Joe Biden forced Shokin’s firing in March 2016. The Facts: This is one of the most egregiously false statements spread by the media. Ukraine’s official case file for Burisma Holdings, provided to me by prosecutors, shows there were two active investigations into the gas firm and its founder Mykola Zlochevsky in early 2016, one involving corruption allegations and the other involving unpaid taxes. In fact, Shokin told me in an interview he was making plans to interview Burisma board members, including Hunter Biden, at the time he was fired." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,514 Posted October 31, 2019 59 minutes ago, MDC said: Yes or no: 1. The IMF wanted the same prosecutor fired. 2. The prosecutor was investigating the company in relation to events that happened before Hunter’s time there. Thanks. Anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 31, 2019 1 minute ago, MDC said: Anyone? In May 2016 when new Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko was appointed, Buretta then sent a letter to the new prosecutor seeking to resolve the investigations of Burisma and Zlochevsky. You can read that letter here. Buretta eventually gave a February 2017 interview to the Kiev Post in which he divulged that the corruption probe was resolved in fall 2016 and the tax case by early January 2017. You can read Buretta’s interview here. In another words, the Burisma investigations were active at the time Vice President Biden forced Shokin’s firing, and any suggestion to the contrary is pure misinformation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,995 Posted October 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, MDC said: Anyone? No and No Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 31, 2019 21 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said: In May 2016 when new Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko was appointed, Buretta then sent a letter to the new prosecutor seeking to resolve the investigations of Burisma and Zlochevsky. You can read that letter here. Buretta eventually gave a February 2017 interview to the Kiev Post in which he divulged that the corruption probe was resolved in fall 2016 and the tax case by early January 2017. You can read Buretta’s interview here. In another words, the Burisma investigations were active at the time Vice President Biden forced Shokin’s firing, and any suggestion to the contrary is pure misinformation Ouch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 31, 2019 MDC flailing about. Shokin on the job a mere 14 months while Hunter Biden is with Burisma. Supposedly gets fired at the request of several countries, IMF and Biden for lack of going after corruption. New prosecutor immediately gets contacted by Burisma to settle open cases against them. Where was the outrage by the several countries, IMF and Biden against the new prosecutor for closing those investigations? Didn't they want corruption rooted out? Maybe the IMF isn't as squeaky clean as you think. Your story has more holes in it than the A$$hole Day Parade. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted October 31, 2019 (CNN) — A top National Security Council official testified Thursday that he was told President Donald Trump wanted a top Ukrainian official to announce an investigation that would help the President politically before US security aid to Ukraine would be released, corroborating a key part of US diplomat Bill Taylor's testimony that's central to the Democrats' impeachment inquiry, according to sources familiar with the testimony. Tim Morrison, the top Russia and Europe adviser on the National Security Council, also told House impeachment investigators that he was advised by then-White House official Fiona Hill to stay away from the parallel Ukraine policy being pursued by Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, according to one of the sources. Morrison said in his closed-door testimony that he was concerned the July 25 call transcript between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky would leak and could have negative ramifications, according to multiple sources. But he made clear he saw nothing wrong with the July call, saying he was "not concerned" that "anything illegal" was discussed, according to one source. Morrison, who will soon be departing the White House, was involved with discussions after the call about how to handle the transcript, the sources said. Ultimately, the call transcript was filed in a highly classified system, a decision that's among the issues Democrats are seeking answers about in their impeachment investigation into Trump and Ukraine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 31, 2019 Full transcript or STFU Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intense Observer 344 Posted October 31, 2019 10 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said: Full transcript or STFU Apparently they think if they get enough career politicians to give their opinion that OMB it somehow outweighs the facts of the transcript. And just a reminder, the US and Ukraine signed a treaty under Clinton to assist each other on corruption investigations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 31, 2019 Several people including those making the call state no concerns with the call. The left trotted out a whistleblower who worked with Biden and got fired from NSC for leaking to reporters, and they trotted out another hack who got busted trying to plant evidence and was meeting with registered foreign agents. Now they can't even allow witnesses to answer Republican questions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 31, 2019 51 minutes ago, MDC said: Anyone? No rebuttal? Has your bleeding stopped yet? The swelling make take a few days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted October 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Filthy Fernadez said: Several people including those making the call state no concerns with the call. The left trotted out a whistleblower who worked with Biden and got fired from NSC for leaking to reporters, and they trotted out another hack who got busted trying to plant evidence and was meeting with registered foreign agents. Now they can't even allow witnesses to answer Republican questions. I thought it was transcripts or STFU? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 31, 2019 Just now, IGotWorms said: I thought it was transcripts or STFU? Full transcripts, not the talking points the MSM was given. I'm posting facts about your resistance wannabe heroes trying to solidify something, anything to keep the ruse going. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted October 31, 2019 Kinda shameful to me that guy wore his uniform, as if it were a costume. You work in a suit, wear a suit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masshole 642 Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Intense Observer said: The fact that Nancy is too chicken shite to call an actual impeachment vote should be enough for everyone to see this for the sham it is. If the House had any faith in their evidence they would bring impeachment. Instead we get this "inquiry" vote with special rules to prevent any questions or witnesses that might contradict the narrative they are pushing. The only goal is to muddy the waters and obstruct POTUS from carrying out his duties as head of the executive branch. It plays well to the OMB Fringe but moderates and non-political Americans only see a never ending tantrum. "Trump should be impeached because he asked a foreign country to help investigate corruption involving their country and our own government" Jigaa please. This! After Russia hoax, Kavanaugh hearings, Ukraine, and this ridiculous bastardization of the impeachment process - I don't know how people don't get just flat ass angry about this stuff. This stuff makes my blood boil. And that's not saying that Trump is Lincoln, T Roosevelt, & Reagan reincarnated. But there is no way that Trump is so bad that there is any justification for this type of gross misconduct. I am fascinated and terrified by the 2020 election. If Trump wins, esp wins big, I think it will mean that a lot of people are paying attention and understand how vile this stuff has been and how dangerous it is to our political system and philosphy. If it's "President Warren" or "President Biden" - then we have way too many people who let themselves get indoctrinated into OMB and/or bought the BS that was thrown at them and not to be too hyperbolic - I would fear for the future of our country. I pray its the former not the latter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,163 Posted October 31, 2019 21 minutes ago, Masshole said: This! After Russia hoax, Kavanaugh hearings, Ukraine, and this ridiculous bastardization of the impeachment process - I don't know how people don't get just flat ass angry about this stuff. This stuff makes my blood boil. And that's not saying that Trump is Lincoln, T Roosevelt, & Reagan reincarnated. But there is no way that Trump is so bad that there is any justification for this type of gross misconduct. I am fascinated and terrified by the 2020 election. If Trump wins, esp wins big, I think it will mean that a lot of people are paying attention and understand how vile this stuff has been and how dangerous it is to our political system and philosphy. If it's "President Warren" or "President Biden" - then we have way too many people who let themselves get indoctrinated into OMB and/or bought the BS that was thrown at them and not to be too hyperbolic - I would fear for the future of our country. I pray its the former not the latter. I say if a Democrat gets elected the Republicans push for impeachment as soon as they take control of the House. Heck, it doesn't even have to be 2020. The next time a Democrat wins the WH the GOP needs to start impeachment hearings the day after they are sworn in. Since the standard of impeachment is now "I don't like the results of the election. IT WAS HER TURN!!!" I guess we will always be in an impeachment process from now on. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted October 31, 2019 37 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Kinda shameful to me that guy wore his uniform, as if it were a costume. You work in a suit, wear a suit. I'll bet $100 that fatty had to get it let out before the hearing. Probably hasn't worn it in 50 pounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,514 Posted October 31, 2019 3 hours ago, MDC said: Yes or no: 1. The IMF wanted the same prosecutor fired. 2. The prosecutor was investigating the company in relation to events that happened before Hunter’s time there. Thanks. Filthy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 1, 2019 45 minutes ago, MDC said: Filthy? I already trashed you on this FFS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 1, 2019 http://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-plundering-of-ukraine/ Dems plundering of Ukraine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,559 Posted November 1, 2019 We all know there won't be a vote at the House unless democrats take over the Senate. They know this is purely a political maneuver and not a legal one. Once 2020 is over and the Republicans take over the House and Senate, the impeachment process will end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,163 Posted November 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: We all know there won't be a vote at the House unless democrats take over the Senate. They know this is purely a political maneuver and not a legal one. Once 2020 is over and the Republicans take over the House and Senate, the impeachment process will end. I say the GOP should turn the tables and start impeaching Democrats wherever they can. Especially that lying sack of sh#t Schiff. Dude lies more than Trump and he's as corrupt as hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 1, 2019 Vindman Tied to Ukrainian Arms Dealers, Ukrainian Oil and Gas and the Atlantic Council https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/10/lying-schiffs-star-witness-alexander-vindman-tied-to-ukrainian-arms-dealers-ukrainian-oil-and-gas-and-the-atlantic-council/ 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,559 Posted November 1, 2019 1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: I say the GOP should turn the tables and start impeaching Democrats wherever they can. Especially that lying sack of sh#t Schiff. Dude lies more than Trump and he's as corrupt as hell. I'm hoping the country does the right thing and vote for Republicans until the Democrats act like rational human beings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 1, 2019 Dem narrative destroyed: “I want to be clear, I was not concerned that anything illegal was discussed,” Morrison said. “Morrison also testified that the memorandum of the call released by the White House is accurate to his recollection and he does not know the whistleblower’s identity,” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,514 Posted November 1, 2019 33 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said: I already trashed you on this FFS. Just take 1 minute from your limitless spare time and answer the questions focker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites