Hawkeye21 2,405 Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Filthy Fernadez said: Who would get better results from the Democratic candidates? You are basing results on what you want done so it's obvious you don't think any Democrat can accomplish anything. I honestly don't know who will accomplish the most. I want someone who isn't Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,942 Posted November 4, 2019 I want whoever doesn't want to give illegals any benefits. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: You are basing results on what you want done so it's obvious you don't think any Democrat can accomplish anything. I honestly don't know who will accomplish the most. I want someone who isn't Trump. Doesn't everyone in the country want a robust economy? Record low unemployment? Rising wages? Lower taxes? If that list is something the Dems are against, I assume results don't matter with you so long as it's not Trump. You'd rather have someone more polished without a care for them actually doing the job? Staggering to think your vote should count as much as someone who cares for the country. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,405 Posted November 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said: Doesn't everyone in the country want a robust economy? Record low unemployment? Rising wages? Lower taxes? If that list is something the Dems are against, I assume results don't matter with you so long as it's not Trump. You'd rather have someone more polished without a care for them actually doing the job? Staggering to think your vote should count as much as someone who cares for the country. My taxes didn't really change that much. I save some each paycheck but got so much less on my refund it was a wash. The wealthy saved a ton though, so that's nice. Overall, I don't care all that much about the tax reform other than he didn't accomplish what he promised. There are numerous reports on wages and they all vary. I don't think I've seen one that shows Trump is responsible for raising wages though. Unemployment is low and that's awesome. Is Trump directly responsible for it? The economy is doing well but I don't think Trump is setting us up well for the future. I have concerns about his long term planning for our country. I don't like how he has increased the deficit so drastically when we have such a good economy right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I save some each paycheck but got so much less on my refund it was a wash. Wrong; you net more every year; period. There are numerous reports on wages and they all vary. I don't think I've seen one that shows Trump is responsible for raising wages though. You are reading the wrong news sites which is to say they're not news sites. Unemployment is low and that's awesome. Is Trump directly responsible for it? Yes and that can't be debated. Contrast that with everyone of those in the Democratic party are for raising taxes, supporting the killing of babies that were born, open borders, giving trillions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to the Climate Change Cult. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,405 Posted November 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said: Contrast that with everyone of those in the Democratic party are for raising taxes, supporting the killing of babies that were born, open borders, giving trillions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to the Climate Change Cult. What is the end all, be all for news then? You keep telling me that I am reading the wrong news sites so it's obvious that you must know which ones are the right ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 4, 2019 25 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: What is the end all, be all for news then? You keep telling me that I am reading the wrong news sites so it's obvious that you must know which ones are the right ones. Is it more about the site, or the message? Why do folks choose to kill babies over taking precautions to not have them in the first place? And why would any country want open borders in this day and age? Isn't Europe suffering from this now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 4, 2019 28 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: What is the end all, be all for news then? You keep telling me that I am reading the wrong news sites so it's obvious that you must know which ones are the right ones. https://www.breitbart.com/ https://theconservativetreehouse.com/ As well as several people on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MZHemingway https://twitter.com/drawandstrike https://twitter.com/jsolomonReports https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog https://twitter.com/paulsperry_ https://twitter.com/ByronYork Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,405 Posted November 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: Is it more about the site, or the message? Why do folks choose to kill babies over taking precautions to not have them in the first place? And why would any country want open borders in this day and age? Isn't Europe suffering from this now? I’m confused as to what this has to do what I asked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,405 Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Filthy Fernadez said: https://www.breitbart.com/ https://theconservativetreehouse.com/ As well as several people on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MZHemingway https://twitter.com/drawandstrike https://twitter.com/jsolomonReports https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog https://twitter.com/paulsperry_ https://twitter.com/ByronYork I figured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: I figured. Read them for a week. Really read them. Enlightening once you see how the sites you frequent lie and manipulate you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intense Observer 344 Posted November 4, 2019 8 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: What are your thoughts on this if it's actually true? https://spectator.us/seven-whistleblowers-jared-kushner-bin-salman/ Kushner (allegedly) gave the green light to MBS to arrest the dissident journalist, Jamal Khashoggi, who was later murdered and dismembered in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul. A second source tells Cockburn that this is true and adds a crucial twist to the story. This source claims that Turkish intelligence obtained an intercept of the call between Kushner and MBS. And President Erdogan used it to get Trump to roll over and pull American troops out of northern Syria before the Turks invaded. This has to be a new low among the Jew hating left. Muh Kushner. I bet your comrades are having a field day with this latest bit of Fake News. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted November 4, 2019 They’ve published a couple of the deposition transcripts. I may actually read them. Though it’s like 500 pages (quick pages, but still) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intense Observer 344 Posted November 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said: https://www.breitbart.com/ https://theconservativetreehouse.com/ As well as several people on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MZHemingway https://twitter.com/drawandstrike https://twitter.com/jsolomonReports https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog https://twitter.com/paulsperry_ https://twitter.com/ByronYork Speaking of John Solomon, he just destroyed the false narrative the left has been pushing about Burisma and US interference in 2016: https://johnsolomonreports.com/hunter-bidens-ukraine-gas-firm-pressed-obama-administration-to-end-corruption-allegations-memos-show/ Quoted: During that February 2016 contact, a U.S. representative for Burisma Holdings sought a meeting with Undersecretary of State Catherine A. Novelli to discuss ending the corruption allegations against the Ukrainian firm where Hunter Biden worked as a board member, according to memos obtained under a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit. (I filed that suit this summer with the help of the public interest law firm the Southeastern Legal Foundation.) Just three weeks before Burisma’s overture to State, Ukrainian authorities raided the home of the oligarch who owned the gas firm and employed Hunter Biden, a signal the long-running corruption probe was escalating in the middle of the U.S. presidential election. Hunter Biden’s name, in fact, was specifically invoked by the Burisma representative as a reason the State Department should help, according to a series of email exchanges among U.S. officials trying to arrange the meeting. The subject line for the email exchanges read simply “Burisma.” “Per our conversation, Karen Tramontano of Blue Star Strategies requested a meeting to discuss with U/S Novelli USG remarks alleging Burisma (Ukrainian energy company) of corruption,” a Feb. 24, 2016, email between State officials read. “She noted that two high profile U.S. citizens are affiliated with the company (including Hunter Biden as a board member). “Tramontano would like to talk with U/S Novelli about getting a better understanding of how the U.S. came to the determination that the company is corrupt,” the email added. “According to Tramontano there is no evidence of corruption, has been no hearing or process, and evidence to the contrary has not been considered.” 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Intense Observer said: Speaking of John Solomon, he just destroyed the false narrative the left has been pushing about Burisma and US interference in 2016: https://johnsolomonreports.com/hunter-bidens-ukraine-gas-firm-pressed-obama-administration-to-end-corruption-allegations-memos-show/ Quoted: During that February 2016 contact, a U.S. representative for Burisma Holdings sought a meeting with Undersecretary of State Catherine A. Novelli to discuss ending the corruption allegations against the Ukrainian firm where Hunter Biden worked as a board member, according to memos obtained under a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit. (I filed that suit this summer with the help of the public interest law firm the Southeastern Legal Foundation.) Just three weeks before Burisma’s overture to State, Ukrainian authorities raided the home of the oligarch who owned the gas firm and employed Hunter Biden, a signal the long-running corruption probe was escalating in the middle of the U.S. presidential election. Hunter Biden’s name, in fact, was specifically invoked by the Burisma representative as a reason the State Department should help, according to a series of email exchanges among U.S. officials trying to arrange the meeting. The subject line for the email exchanges read simply “Burisma.” “Per our conversation, Karen Tramontano of Blue Star Strategies requested a meeting to discuss with U/S Novelli USG remarks alleging Burisma (Ukrainian energy company) of corruption,” a Feb. 24, 2016, email between State officials read. “She noted that two high profile U.S. citizens are affiliated with the company (including Hunter Biden as a board member). “Tramontano would like to talk with U/S Novelli about getting a better understanding of how the U.S. came to the determination that the company is corrupt,” the email added. “According to Tramontano there is no evidence of corruption, has been no hearing or process, and evidence to the contrary has not been considered.” Was just reading that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intense Observer 344 Posted November 4, 2019 Tldr: Burisma paid a US firm (Blue Star) to convince the State Dept 3rd in command that there was no corruption, despite the CEO of Burisma having his home raided 3 weeks prior. The lawyer at Blue Star is now working for Biden's campaign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted November 4, 2019 Uh-oh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intense Observer 344 Posted November 5, 2019 Just to recap this "impeachment inquiry": 1. Hunter Biden sat on a board in a corrupt former USSR country, an oil and gas company no less, and collected $50k/mo for 5 years 2. This company was under investigation according to the country itself, and according to the company itself 3. According to the IMF and Joe Biden, the corruption investigation was not moving fast enough 4. The company hired a US firm to influence the State Dept and get them to stop the investigation 5. Joe Biden, according to his own confession on video, bribed the president of Ukraine with a billion dollars in US aid, to fire the lead prosecutor investigating the company his son was collecting $500k+ annually from 6. Prosecutor was fired, investigation was wrapped up, no charges against the company. All during a US election year (2016) 7. Trump speaks with new Ukrainian president and asks him to keep him updated on the investigation, which was reopened under the new administration 8. Joe Biden is one of 20 possible candidates in an election 16 months away 9. Drumpf was obviously bribing a foreign country for dirt on his political opponent in 2020, despite the fact that the Dems only just finished their first debate and Biden looked like a bumbling fool that nobody was supporting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted November 5, 2019 So, they are trying to impeach president Trump for what Biden did. Shameless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: They’ve published a couple of the deposition transcripts. I may actually read them. Though it’s like 500 pages (quick pages, but still) They didn't release the Volker one though. Could it be because Schiff pushed Volker to say Ukraine felt pressured by Trump? https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/schiff-pressed-volker-to-say-ukraine-felt-pressure-from-trump Release ALL the transcripts; not just ones where the Dems think they have a talking point. 4 minutes ago, Intense Observer said: Just to recap this "impeachment inquiry": 1. Hunter Biden sat on a board in a corrupt former USSR country, an oil and gas company no less, and collected $50k/mo for 5 years It was revealed Hunter got more than $50k per month. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,939 Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Intense Observer said: Just to recap this "impeachment inquiry": 1. Hunter Biden sat on a board in a corrupt former USSR country, an oil and gas company no less, and collected $50k/mo for 5 years 2. This company was under investigation according to the country itself, and according to the company itself 3. According to the IMF and Joe Biden, the corruption investigation was not moving fast enough 4. The company hired a US firm to influence the State Dept and get them to stop the investigation 5. Joe Biden, according to his own confession on video, bribed the president of Ukraine with a billion dollars in US aid, to fire the lead prosecutor investigating the company his son was collecting $500k+ annually from 6. Prosecutor was fired, investigation was wrapped up, no charges against the company. All during a US election year (2016) 7. Trump speaks with new Ukrainian president and asks him to keep him updated on the investigation, which was reopened under the new administration 8. Joe Biden is one of 20 possible candidates in an election 16 months away 9. Drumpf was obviously bribing a foreign country for dirt on his political opponent in 2020, despite the fact that the Dems only just finished their first debate and Biden looked like a bumbling fool that nobody was supporting You forgot a couple of things 7.1 Ambassador tries to set up the Trump admin with a text message at 12:30am. 7.2 Trump Admin smells it from a mile away and says the ambassador is WRONG in his understanding and there is no quid pro quo 8.1 Whistleblower meets with Adam Shifts people before filing a complaint. 8.2 Files complaint. 8.3 First whistleblower is gone 8.4 Second whistleblower blower comes forward. 8.5 Transcript released shows an absolute nothing burger 8.6 Democrats hold closed-door meetings in the basement of all places 10. Orange Man Bad 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted November 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said: They didn't release the Volker one though. Could it be because Schiff pushed Volker to say Ukraine felt pressured by Trump? https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/schiff-pressed-volker-to-say-ukraine-felt-pressure-from-trump Release ALL the transcripts; not just ones where the Dems think they have a talking point. Careful what you wish for. I believe they are releasing more, it just takes time to get them finalized, redacted etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Careful what you wish for. I believe they are releasing more, it just takes time to get them finalized, redacted etc Volker was the first one, right? Redacted for what? That information isn't classified. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted November 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Filthy Fernadez said: Volker was the first one, right? Redacted for what? That information isn't classified. Fock if I know, but I’d be surprised if they didn’t release Volker transcript now. I agree, you can’t cherry pick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 5, 2019 https://videos.files.wordpress.com/2kz47NeD/steve-hilton-vs-marie-harf-fireworks-on-fox-steve-hilton-accuses-corruption-by-biden-and-kerry_dvd.mp4 Steve Hilton brings the pain to the big blonde b!tch. 'Investigate Kerry as well' and she tries saying there's no evidence and he calls her out for assisting in the cover up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted November 5, 2019 I'm willing to wager that the majority of trump supporters on this board don't listen to 20 minutes of the guys pressers or Read his 147 tweets per week. Dude just loses it on things like chocolate cake and totally confusing telephone conversations with letters, etc. Objectively, the guy is just freaking nuts. Now he claims we're building a wall in Colorado to keep the Mexicans out. I sincerely hope he doesn't actually believe that New Mexico is part of Mexico. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,997 Posted November 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, wiffleball said: I sincerely hope he doesn't actually believe that New Mexico is part of Mexico. WTF is this supposed to mean? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,942 Posted November 5, 2019 Maybe he thinks it's one of the 57 states? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 5, 2019 27 minutes ago, wiffleball said: I'm willing to wager that the majority of trump supporters on this board don't listen to 20 minutes of the guys pressers or Read his 147 tweets per week. Dude just loses it on things like chocolate cake and totally confusing telephone conversations with letters, etc. Objectively, the guy is just freaking nuts. Now he claims we're building a wall in Colorado to keep the Mexicans out. I sincerely hope he doesn't actually believe that New Mexico is part of Mexico. I see wiff has surfaced briefly. I guess he's out of xanax and doesn't have gas money to get more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Filthy Fernadez said: https://videos.files.wordpress.com/2kz47NeD/steve-hilton-vs-marie-harf-fireworks-on-fox-steve-hilton-accuses-corruption-by-biden-and-kerry_dvd.mp4 Steve Hilton brings the pain to the big blonde b!tch. 'Investigate Kerry as well' and she tries saying there's no evidence and he calls her out for assisting in the cover up. You should take a look at the transcripts. It’s interesting that right up front there are republicans talking and asking questions. You remember when you were spreading those lies about how republicans weren’t even allowed in the room? You have no credibility Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted November 5, 2019 33 minutes ago, wiffleball said: I'm willing to wager that the majority of trump supporters on this board don't listen to 20 minutes of the guys pressers or Read his 147 tweets per week. Dude just loses it on things like chocolate cake and totally confusing telephone conversations with letters, etc. Objectively, the guy is just freaking nuts. Now he claims we're building a wall in Colorado to keep the Mexicans out. I sincerely hope he doesn't actually believe that New Mexico is part of Mexico. I don't. I care what he does, not what he says. He's a politician. Everything that comes out of their mouths is BS. With Trump it's most. He keeps some of his promises. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 5, 2019 13 hours ago, Filthy Fernadez said: Was just reading that. Explosive, but the sheep like honcho, worms and hawk will stick their fingers in their ears and pretend it didnt happen like the good little sheep they are. They'll wait for their marching orders from CNN and snopes to deflect from this truth. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,942 Posted November 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, drobeski said: Explosive, but the sheep like honcho, worms and hawk will stick their fingers in their ears and pretend it didnt happen like the good little sheep they are. They'll wait for their marching orders from CNN and snopes to deflect from this truth. The crime isn't the crime. Investigating the crime is the crime. Orange man bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,256 Posted November 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, drobeski said: Explosive, but the sheep like honcho, worms and hawk will stick their fingers in their ears and pretend it didnt happen like the good little sheep they are. They'll wait for their marching orders from CNN and snopes to deflect from this truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted November 5, 2019 13 hours ago, Filthy Fernadez said: Was just reading that. I mean Damn..... It's definitely all starting to make sense now. They have to get Trump out of office, their actual freedom is on the line, as in prison time.... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted November 5, 2019 28 minutes ago, drobeski said: Explosive, but the sheep like honcho, worms and hawk will stick their fingers in their ears and pretend it didnt happen like the good little sheep they are. They'll wait for their marching orders from CNN and snopes to deflect from this truth. Cokehead Hunter as a board member for a foreign gas and oil company that was under investigation before he was hired and the investigation dropped after is just the same as Don Jr. working for his dad. Exactly the same. Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,256 Posted November 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Reality said: I mean Damn..... It's definitely all starting to make sense now. They have to get Trump out of office, their actual freedom is on the line, as in prison time.... I agree. I think this explains the fervent way they are going about this, there is a desperation to their behavior that seems warranted given these details. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 5, 2019 11 hours ago, IGotWorms said: You should take a look at the transcripts. It’s interesting that right up front there are republicans talking and asking questions. You remember when you were spreading those lies about how republicans weren’t even allowed in the room? You have no credibility That's what was reported at the time. Perhaps they eventually were allowed to ask questions. Vindman was told not to answer Republican questions......why? You bought into the Trump Russia collusion, Flynn traitor bullsh!t, this Ukraine nonsense, etc....don't speak of credibility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, Reality said: I mean Damn..... It's definitely all starting to make sense now. They have to get Trump out of office, their actual freedom is on the line, as in prison time.... It's not just Biden and the previous admin either. USAID and IMF funds gor laundered through Ukraine and a good portion came back stateside to politicians; former and present. Their The entire swamp is teetering in the balance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,520 Posted November 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: Cokehead Hunter as a board member for a foreign gas and oil company that was under investigation before he was hired and the investigation dropped after is just the same as Don Jr. working for his dad. Exactly the same. Exactly. It’s totally different. One is nepotism and influence peddling by a Democrat in the past, which is bad. The other is nepotism and influence peddling by a current Republican POTUS, which is good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites