Coronavirus - Doomsday

[KSB2424 3,148]

I wore / wear a mask indoors at the grocery store, home improvement store, whatever in the beginning as we didn't quite know exactly what this virus was all about.  I never wore one outdoors and never by myself in a car    I am rule follower and did what I thought was best at the time for not only myself but my fellow man.   That is logical, but these people are insane.

 

 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

9 hours ago, KSB2424 said:

I wore / wear a mask indoors at the grocery store, home improvement store, whatever in the beginning as we didn't quite know exactly what this virus was all about.  I never wore one outdoors and never by myself in a car    I am rule follower and did what I thought was best at the time for not only myself but my fellow man.   That is logical, but these people are insane.

 

 

These sad, scared people will truly think it's a miracle they made it through this alive. A virus that killed roughly 1 out of 600, all of whom were very ill to begin with. No reasoning with insanity. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

What maddow needs to rewire can't be fixed. That chick is certifiably retarded.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Maddow went to Oxford too. 

[Fireballer 2,644]

The fact that Madcow allowed herself to be "rewired" to be afraid of people without a mask says it all.

[Utilit99 4,099]

5 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

The fact that Madcow allowed herself to be "rewired" to be afraid of people without a mask says it all.

This is leftism. They completely think in terms of rewiring, reprogramming, reeducating, retraining the MINDS of people. 

 

[lod001 1,344]

On 5/15/2021 at 9:16 PM, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

So we see story after story of people who had the vaccine getting covid but I don’t see story after story of people getting covid a second time without it

Along with the excuses as to why they got it.

[TimHauck 2,931]

On 5/15/2021 at 9:16 PM, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

So we see story after story of people who had the vaccine getting covid but I don’t see story after story of people getting covid a second time without it

Does Gleyber Torres count?  He had covid AND the vaccine.

We know it happens, but it's rare - https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/04/22/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us/

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,365]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Does Gleyber Torres count?  He had covid AND the vaccine.

We know it happens, but it's rare - https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/04/22/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us/

I mean people who haven’t got the vaccine at all

[DonS 3,292]

Clearly any deaths after receiving vaccine is a case of dying from something else.  Original covid death numbers are to be believed, however.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cdc-director-walensky-criticism-updated-guidance-coronavirus-deaths

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During an interview on CNN's "State of the Union," Walensky was asked about vaccinated Americans who have contracted the virus – and whether anyone has died from an infection, despite being inoculated. Walensky said the CDC is aware of 223 so-called "break-through" infections in vaccinated Americans, but clarified that many of those individuals died due to other causes.

"Not all of those 223 cases who had COVID actually died of COVID," she said. "They may have had mild disease but died, for example, of a heart attack."

 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

14 minutes ago, DonS said:

Clearly any deaths after receiving vaccine is a case of dying from something else.  Original covid death numbers are to be believed, however.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cdc-director-walensky-criticism-updated-guidance-coronavirus-deaths

 

He was on CNN.  What he said was not meant for intelligent people. 

[TimHauck 2,931]

16 minutes ago, DonS said:

Clearly any deaths after receiving vaccine is a case of dying from something else.  Original covid death numbers are to be believed, however.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cdc-director-walensky-criticism-updated-guidance-coronavirus-deaths

 

Original covid death numbers were overstated, by about 9-10%, since they measured both "with covid" deaths and deaths where covid was the underlying cause, but covid was the underlying cause in 90-91% of "with covid" deaths.   That's still over 500k deaths.

Looks like they stopped officially counting breakthrough infections, only hospitalizations (1,359), and they're saying 18% of the 223 deaths were not related to covid.  But considering asymptomatic infections are likely a higher % of total infections in vaccinated people, that doesn't seem unreasonable - https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

[TimHauck 2,931]

On 5/5/2021 at 4:29 PM, Utilit99 said:

So are masks forever?

 

On 5/5/2021 at 5:04 PM, Fireballer said:

If you look at social media, possibly. Many people are advocating for wearing them all the time. 

LOL

[lod001 1,344]

19 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Original covid death numbers were overstated, by about 9-10%, since they measured both "with covid" deaths and deaths where covid was the underlying cause, but covid was the underlying cause in 90-91% of "with covid" deaths.   That's still over 500k deaths.

Looks like they stopped officially counting breakthrough infections, only hospitalizations (1,359), and they're saying 18% of the 223 deaths were not related to covid.  But considering asymptomatic infections are likely a higher % of total infections in vaccinated people, that doesn't seem unreasonable - https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

Still believing the BS they feed ya, I see.

 

35 minutes ago, DonS said:

Clearly any deaths after receiving vaccine is a case of dying from something else.  Original covid death numbers are to be believed, however.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cdc-director-walensky-criticism-updated-guidance-coronavirus-deaths

 

The BS flows out of this woman's mouth and Dr. Birx back a year ago. Now it's completely the opposite. What a surprise. Anyone that saw this and can think rationally, knew right then that it was a scamdemic.

 

[TimHauck 2,931]

13 minutes ago, lod001 said:

Still believing the BS they feed ya, I see.

 

The BS flows out of this woman's mouth and Dr. Birx back a year ago. Now it's completely the opposite. What a surprise. Anyone that saw this and can think rationally, knew right then that it was a scamdemic.

 

Again, I'm admitting that covid deaths were overcounted.  By 9-10%.   Yes all deaths with a positive test are tracked as "with covid" deaths.   But 90-91% of "with covid" deaths had covid as the underlying cause on the death certificate.   I'm sure a gunshot wound would be noted as the underlying cause.  But when you are working with a small number of deaths like the "Colorado coroner," obviously those %'s can vary - especially when those "2 of 5" were a married couple that died by murder suicide as was the case in that example.

[TimHauck 2,931]

Frankly if the CDC was full of "BS," they would have only included the "not related to covid-19" in the table, not just as a footnote below.  And it's still 82% so it's not like they're reducing the number significantly.     I guess you could be critical of Walensky for saying "many" though.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

16 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

 

Again, I'm admitting that covid deaths were overcounted.  By 9-10%.   Yes all deaths with a positive test are tracked as "with covid" deaths.   But 90-91% of "with covid" deaths had covid as the underlying cause on the death certificate.   I'm sure a gunshot wound would be noted as the underlying cause.  But when you are working with a small number of deaths like the "Colorado coroner," obviously those %'s can vary - especially when those "2 of 5" were a married couple that died by murder suicide as was the case in that example.

How do you know it was 10 pct? 

[TimHauck 2,931]

8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

How do you know it was 10 pct? 

https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Weekly-Counts-of-Deaths-by-State-and-Select-Causes/muzy-jte6

[Cloaca du jour 2,151]

https://republicandaily.net/2021/05/cdc-dir-rochelle-walensky-makes-an-astonishing-admission-about-covid-deaths/

[TimHauck 2,931]

13 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said:

https://republicandaily.net/2021/05/cdc-dir-rochelle-walensky-makes-an-astonishing-admission-about-covid-deaths/

LOL, I love how you guys think that this is some sort of revelation.  CDC has been keeping the same exact stats for covid deaths.  Look one post above.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

LOL, I love how you guys think that this is some sort of revelation.  CDC has been keeping the same exact stats for covid deaths.  Look one post above.

Yep just like they have been saying that health is the #1 factor in deaths. 

[TimHauck 2,931]

14 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Yep just like they have been saying that health is the #1 factor in deaths. 

Example?

[Strike 5,601]

https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-wearing-binkies-to-wean-themselves-off-masks

[Strike 5,601]

Wanna know why some of us are very skeptical of the government on this?

Here's Fauci a couple months ago in front of congress:

Here's Fauci now that the CDC has updated it's guidance, admitting he wasn't being truthful then:

 

[Reality 3,121]

6 minutes ago, Strike said:

Wanna know why some of us are very skeptical of the government on this?

Here's Fauci a couple months ago in front of congress:

Here's Fauci now that the CDC has updated it's guidance, admitting he wasn't being truthful then:

 

Cuz, you know, science... What a focking joke this has all been.

[fandandy 3,313]

I had countless conversations with customers who said, you watch after the election this will all magically disappear.  I just heard on the news that since January, cases have gone down 82%, and deaths 87%.  (Those numbers might be transposed)

If this was all a novel it would be so far-fetched that we wouldn't even finish it.  

[TimmySmith 2,782]

38 minutes ago, Reality said:

Cuz, you know, science... What a focking joke this has all been.

And why does the douche say "indoor setting".  Once vaccinated, your odds of getting it anywhere are extremely low. If you want to look anywhere at why vaccinations are not where they want them to be, look at this guy, our #1 "scientist".

[TimHauck 2,931]

9 minutes ago, fandandy said:

I had countless conversations with customers who said, you watch after the election this will all magically disappear.  I just heard on the news that since January, cases have gone down 82%, and deaths 87%.  (Those numbers might be transposed)

If this was all a novel it would be so far-fetched that we wouldn't even finish it.  

The election was November 2020.   It's May 2021.   Quick disappearing act!

[lod001 1,344]

Fauci is a drunk and a liar, capitalizing on the stupid of this country over a weak virus, to make big $. The CDC has become a total untrustworthy joke. 

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

The election was November 2020.   It's May 2021.   Quick disappearing act!

Ya can't just flip off the BS switch or you will be easily exposed. They had to go full on fear until Nov. and then start the dance. You have to do a long dance to fool the masses. Fauci is making mistakes because he can't keep up with his own lies (see Strike's post) but if you drag it out long enough, everyone is happy it's just over with. We are at that point. People have had it with the BS and they see that. Florida and Texas open along with Mich incompetence exposed them to the intelligent portion of the population.

[fandandy 3,313]

9 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

The election was November 2020.   It's May 2021.   Quick disappearing act!

When was Biden inaugurated?  So, basically, since his inauguration cases and deaths have declined 80 plus percent.  It's a miracle.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Just now, fandandy said:

When was Biden inaugurated?  So, basically, since his inauguration cases and deaths have declined 80 plus percent.  It's a miracle.

Botcuck heard the truth and ran in to deflect and troll. As usual. 

[TimHauck 2,931]

Just now, fandandy said:

When was Biden inaugurated?  So, basically, since his inauguration cases and deaths have declined 80 plus percent.  It's a miracle.

It is a miracle, it's called the vaccine.  Thanks for agreeing.

[fandandy 3,313]

All the tinfoil hatters were right.  That's crazy.

[fandandy 3,313]

Next, it will be proven to have come from the lab in Wuhan.

[fandandy 3,313]

I think we called that on page two of this thread.

[TimHauck 2,931]

1 minute ago, fandandy said:

Next, it will be proven to have come from the lab in Wuhan.

I agree that it probably did.

[TimHauck 2,931]

1 minute ago, fandandy said:

All the tinfoil hatters were right.  That's crazy.

right about what?  a worldwide pandemic was created to get rid of Trump in the US?

[TimHauck 2,931]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

Wanna know why some of us are very skeptical of the government on this?

Here's Fauci a couple months ago in front of congress:

Here's Fauci now that the CDC has updated it's guidance, admitting he wasn't being truthful then:

 

First one is bad.  Honestly it looks like he got a little flustered since he originally started talking about non-vaccinated people which would have been a reasonable argument - one reason for continued mask mandates was that we can't really differentiate between vaccinated/unvaccinated without people pretending they're in Nazi Germany. 

Or at least he could have admitted that while the risk is low of vaccinated/previously infected people catching it, it's not zero which I thought was part of the reason the CDC was previously still saying vaccinated people should wear masks.    Which is basically what he says in the second video.

[Strike 5,601]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

First one is bad.  Honestly it looks like he got a little flustered since he originally started talking about non-vaccinated people which would have been a reasonable argument - one reason for continued mask mandates was that we can't really differentiate between vaccinated/unvaccinated without people pretending they're in Nazi Germany. 

Or at least he could have admitted that while the risk is low of vaccinated/previously infected people catching it, it's not zero which I thought was part of the reason the CDC was previously still saying vaccinated people should wear masks.    Which is basically what he says in the second video.

WTF are you talking about?  In the 2nd video he admits he lied in the first and that he's been misleading the country re: masks.  The CDC changed their stance for political reasons.  Why do you keep clinging to the notion that there was science behind it?  FFS.

[TimHauck 2,931]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

WTF are you talking about?  In the 2nd video he admits he lied in the first and that he's been misleading the country re: masks.  The CDC changed their stance for political reasons.  Why do you keep clinging to the notion that there was science behind it?  FFS.

I was agreeing with you on the first video - it's bad.   But I don't think the second was, other than proving the first one was bad.

I also wouldn't say the CDC changed their stance for "political reasons".  They knew the risk of the vaccinated (or previously infected...which btw I do think an antibody test should be equivalent to getting the vaccine) catching covid was low.  But it wasn't zero, which was the reason for the original guidance.   I think they were just betting on more people getting the vaccine if their guidance for vaccinated had less restrictions, which ultimately would be more beneficial than trying to prevent a few vaccinated people from getting it.