lod001 1,344 Posted September 22, 2021 The # 1 reason I won't take this crapola. Russian roulette with garbage that doesn't even work after a few months. Pretty sure this guy doesn't take it back when he died if he knew the crap wears off. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/health/covid-vaccine-death.html But pfizer of course...nooo way. Health authorities are investigating the case of a Florida doctor who died from an unusually severe blood disorder 16 days after receiving the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine. Dr. Gregory Michael, a 56-year-old obstetrician and gynecologist in Miami Beach, received the vaccine at Mount Sinai Medical Center on Dec. 18 and died 16 days later from a brain hemorrhage, his wife, Heidi Neckelmann, wrote in a Facebook post. Shortly after receiving the vaccine, Dr. Michael developed an extremely serious form of a condition known as acute immune thrombocytopenia, which prevented his blood from clotting properly. In a statement, Pfizer, the maker of the vaccine, said it was “actively investigating” the case, “but we don’t believe at this time that there is any direct connection to the vaccine.” sure you are. According to Ms. Neckelmann, three days after her husband got the vaccine, he developed tiny reddish spots, or petechiae, caused by bleeding under the skin of his hands and feet. Recognizing the spots as a danger sign, he went to the emergency room. A blood test showed the level of his platelets, a blood component essential for clotting, to be at zero, she wrote, and he was admitted into the intensive care unit with a diagnosis of acute immune thrombocytopenia. Dr. Michael had “absolutely no medical issues” and no underlying conditions, Ms. Neckelmann, who declined to be interviewed by phone as she made funeral preparations, said in a text message to The New York Times. “Never had any reaction to any medication nor vaccines.” Her husband, she added, was a healthy, active person who did not smoke or take any medication. For two weeks, doctors tried to raise Dr. Michael’s platelet count, and “experts from all over the country were involved in his care,” she wrote on Facebook. “He was conscious and energetic through the whole process, but two days before a last-resort surgery, he got a hemorrhagic stroke caused by the lack of platelets that took his life in a matter of minutes,” she wrote. Dr. Jerry L. Spivak, an expert on blood disorders at Johns Hopkins University, who was not involved in Dr. Michael’s care, said that based on Ms. Neckelmann’s description, “I think it is a medical certainty that the vaccine was related. Now Spivak still recommends getting but I don't know why since 4-6 months later you got nothing. Certainly not worth the risk for ANYONE who is healthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,905 Posted September 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, lod001 said: The # 1 reason I won't take this crapola. Russian roulette with garbage that doesn't even work after a few months. Pretty sure this guy doesn't take it back when he died if he knew the crap wears off. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/health/covid-vaccine-death.html But pfizer of course...nooo way. Health authorities are investigating the case of a Florida doctor who died from an unusually severe blood disorder 16 days after receiving the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine. Dr. Gregory Michael, a 56-year-old obstetrician and gynecologist in Miami Beach, received the vaccine at Mount Sinai Medical Center on Dec. 18 and died 16 days later from a brain hemorrhage, his wife, Heidi Neckelmann, wrote in a Facebook post. Shortly after receiving the vaccine, Dr. Michael developed an extremely serious form of a condition known as acute immune thrombocytopenia, which prevented his blood from clotting properly. In a statement, Pfizer, the maker of the vaccine, said it was “actively investigating” the case, “but we don’t believe at this time that there is any direct connection to the vaccine.” sure you are. According to Ms. Neckelmann, three days after her husband got the vaccine, he developed tiny reddish spots, or petechiae, caused by bleeding under the skin of his hands and feet. Recognizing the spots as a danger sign, he went to the emergency room. A blood test showed the level of his platelets, a blood component essential for clotting, to be at zero, she wrote, and he was admitted into the intensive care unit with a diagnosis of acute immune thrombocytopenia. Dr. Michael had “absolutely no medical issues” and no underlying conditions, Ms. Neckelmann, who declined to be interviewed by phone as she made funeral preparations, said in a text message to The New York Times. “Never had any reaction to any medication nor vaccines.” Her husband, she added, was a healthy, active person who did not smoke or take any medication. For two weeks, doctors tried to raise Dr. Michael’s platelet count, and “experts from all over the country were involved in his care,” she wrote on Facebook. “He was conscious and energetic through the whole process, but two days before a last-resort surgery, he got a hemorrhagic stroke caused by the lack of platelets that took his life in a matter of minutes,” she wrote. Dr. Jerry L. Spivak, an expert on blood disorders at Johns Hopkins University, who was not involved in Dr. Michael’s care, said that based on Ms. Neckelmann’s description, “I think it is a medical certainty that the vaccine was related. Now Spivak still recommends getting but I don't know why since 4-6 months later you got nothing. Certainly not worth the risk for ANYONE who is healthy. Yeah, that guy was one of the few that seemed to have been related. Which was discussed when this happened 8 months ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted September 22, 2021 On 12/12/2020 at 9:10 AM, TimHauck said: Agreed, if we're getting 50 million of the Pfizer doses, and likely some of the Moderna ones too, we should probably be OK until next spring And needed to be reposted since the crapola you champion does not work. Back 9+ months ago you were all bowed up about your jab juice and look at ya now. The laughing stock of the board. Next spring (2022) huh? MWAHAHAHHAHA. Quit listening to fauci and start listening to real doctors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted September 22, 2021 FL picks a winner as new surgeon general. Someone who believes in HCQ and Ivermectin while totally opposed the the BS jab juice mandates. Now we just need FL to man up, start using it, exposé this BS and end it. If you are a libtard in FL, just go get the fock outta here. It's land of the free. https://www.wsj.com/articles/vaccine-mandate-covid-19-unvaccinated-breakthrough-delta-boosters-fluvoxamine-antibodies-11631820572 https://trialsitenews.com/has-the-u-s-medical-establishment-become-too-cautious-in-the-face-of-covid-19-a-ucla-doc-thinks-so/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/09/floridas-new-surgeon-general-skeptical-of-vaccines-opposes-masks/ Ladapo has argued against mask mandates and vaccine mandates and played up fears about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines, which have been found to be remarkably safe as well as effective. Yeah real effective. Meanwhile, Ladapo has pointed to unproven and ineffective drugs, such as ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, as treatments for COVID-19. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,905 Posted September 22, 2021 23 minutes ago, lod001 said: And needed to be reposted since the crapola you champion does not work. Back 9+ months ago you were all bowed up about your jab juice and look at ya now. The laughing stock of the board. Next spring (2022) huh? MWAHAHAHHAHA. Quit listening to fauci and start listening to real doctors. That post was made in 2020, "next spring" was 2021. Below is the post that was ultimately in reference to, which said that we may not be able to get more Pfizer does until June 2021. On 12/7/2020 at 10:22 PM, wiffleball said: Oh, FFS: Dec 07, 5:40 pm Trump officials passed when Pfizer offered US more vaccine doses this summer The Trump administration declined additional doses of the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine late this summer when the pharmaceutical company offered them to the U.S. government, a senior Trump administration official familiar with the matter confirmed to ABC News. Pfizer may be unable to produce more of the vaccine for United States citizens until June 2021 because it has committed those doses to other countries. The main point of my post was to say that I doubt we'd have any issue with having a shortage of doses which of course was correct. No, I didn't originally think anyone would be getting 3 doses in 2021, but I also didn't think ~25% of eligible adults would refuse to take the vaccine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted September 22, 2021 Pure race hustler...is shocking and sad that his ideas have so much influence on our society 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted September 22, 2021 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: That post was made in 2020, "next spring" was 2021. Below is the post that was ultimately in reference to, which said that we may not be able to get more Pfizer does until June 2021. The main point of my post was to say that I doubt we'd have any issue with having a shortage of doses which of course was correct. No, I didn't originally think anyone would be getting 3 doses in 2021, but I also didn't think ~25% of eligible adults would refuse to take the vaccine. So your prediction is even worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted September 22, 2021 Yahoo just an assembly line of dead fat people they are pimping with scare tactics. https://www.yahoo.com/news/unvaccinated-bride-spent-her-wedding-084141575.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/idaho-nurse-told-her-family-151051192.html It's like this every day. Just google a pic of these people and you see why they are dead. They are obese. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,905 Posted September 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, lod001 said: Yahoo just an assembly line of dead fat people they are pimping with scare tactics. https://www.yahoo.com/news/unvaccinated-bride-spent-her-wedding-084141575.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/idaho-nurse-told-her-family-151051192.html It's like this every day. Just google a pic of these people and you see why they are dead. They are obese. This one was in my area - https://people.com/human-interest/mom-of-4-dies-of-covid-week-after-death-of-firefighter-husband/ Husband and wife with 4 kids aged 6-14 both died of covid. Husband had been a fireman for 24 years. They're not winning any marathons anytime soon but I don't think I'd call them obese. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,496 Posted September 22, 2021 https://people.com/human-interest/family-of-vaccinated-mom-who-died-of-covid-says-she-lost-her-life-because-others-chose-not-to-be/ She was vaccinated and died from Covid, and got it from non-vaccinated persons? How does she know she didn't get it from another 'break through' infection from a vaccinated person? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted September 22, 2021 27 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: https://people.com/human-interest/family-of-vaccinated-mom-who-died-of-covid-says-she-lost-her-life-because-others-chose-not-to-be/ She was vaccinated and died from Covid, and got it from non-vaccinated persons? How does she know she didn't get it from another 'break through' infection from a vaccinated person? This is what I don't understand and it isn't science. In thr NFL if there is an outbreak that is caused by an unvaccinated player (how do you know???) A team may have to forfeit games. But like with the Saints if 7 vaccinated people get covid then nothing happens. No unvaccinated player on their team tested positive fot covid. Swept under the rug. What if a vaccinated player spreads it to an unvaccinated player? Do they automatically say it was the unvaccinated player who spread it? What science are they using? It is automatically just assumed that any vaccinated person got covid from an unvaccinated person. If they can't trace it or find an unvaccinated person with covid around then it is just poof...swept under the rug. Apparently doesn't matter. It is asinine. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 22, 2021 39 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: https://people.com/human-interest/family-of-vaccinated-mom-who-died-of-covid-says-she-lost-her-life-because-others-chose-not-to-be/ She was vaccinated and died from Covid, and got it from non-vaccinated persons? How does she know she didn't get it from another 'break through' infection from a vaccinated person? How does she know she was vaccinated at all? Did she have antibodies? If not, she wasn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 22, 2021 55 minutes ago, TimHauck said: They're not winning any marathons anytime soon but I don't think I'd call them obese. The CDC may have other opinions. Defining Adult Overweight & Obesity | Overweight & Obesity | CDC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted September 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: This is what I don't understand and it isn't science. In thr NFL if there is an outbreak that is caused by an unvaccinated player (how do you know???) A team may have to forfeit games. But like with the Saints if 7 vaccinated people get covid then nothing happens. No unvaccinated player on their team tested positive fot covid. Swept under the rug. What if a vaccinated player spreads it to an unvaccinated player? Do they automatically say it was the unvaccinated player who spread it? What science are they using? It is automatically just assumed that any vaccinated person got covid from an unvaccinated person. If they can't trace it or find an unvaccinated person with covid around then it is just poof...swept under the rug. Apparently doesn't matter. It is asinine. Yep. You're looking to find logic in an illogical situation. It's all about narrative. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,905 Posted September 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: The CDC may have other opinions. Defining Adult Overweight & Obesity | Overweight & Obesity | CDC Do you know what their height and weight are? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted September 22, 2021 Holy sh!t. Whitmer worried about re-election ya think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 198 Posted September 22, 2021 That's what happens when the polls have you down 6 points. Pathetic. That's why you vote out trash like her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,470 Posted September 22, 2021 Major companies are requiring all or some of employees to be vaccinated if they’re medically able. Good news - there’s no excuse at this point to not be vaccinated. Hope this helps reduce the spread of variants. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted September 22, 2021 27 minutes ago, MDC said: Major companies are requiring all or some of employees to be vaccinated if they’re medically able. Good news - there’s no excuse at this point to not be vaccinated. Hope this helps reduce the spread of variants. Of course, people with prior infection and antibodies are exempt, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,470 Posted September 22, 2021 27 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Of course, people with prior infection and antibodies are exempt, right? No idea! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted September 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, MDC said: No idea! What about your company? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,356 Posted September 22, 2021 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8m7l1V9GccA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,470 Posted September 22, 2021 28 minutes ago, Fireballer said: What about your company? Didn’t mention it so I guess there’s no exception! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 22, 2021 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: Do you know what their height and weight are? Nope, please tell me. You seemed to know. Or are you fos again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted September 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, MDC said: Didn’t mention it so I guess there’s no exception! Makes sense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,313 Posted September 22, 2021 368 pages Will you guys shut up already, please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,313 Posted September 22, 2021 And you stoopid fockers think you solved a riddle of sorts. Just zip it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,313 Posted September 22, 2021 We all have the same internet. Shut the fock up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,905 Posted September 22, 2021 31 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: Nope, please tell me. You seemed to know. Or are you fos again? No, that’s why I said “I don’t think..” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,905 Posted September 23, 2021 5 hours ago, lod001 said: Yahoo just an assembly line of dead fat people they are pimping with scare tactics. https://www.yahoo.com/news/unvaccinated-bride-spent-her-wedding-084141575.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/idaho-nurse-told-her-family-151051192.html It's like this every day. Just google a pic of these people and you see why they are dead. They are obese. I don’t usually like doing this to former anti-vaxxers but here’s one that’s not obese https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10009793/amp/Mother-four-unmasked-unmuzzled-unvaccinated-dies-COVID-19-age-40.html?__twitter_impression=true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,925 Posted September 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Fireballer said: Holy sh!t. Whitmer worried about re-election ya think? Oh yeah she should be scared. Then again she will just get that Detroit 4am bump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 23, 2021 15 hours ago, Fireballer said: Holy sh!t. Whitmer worried about re-election ya think? Like every other lib, their fallback position is the truth. They know masks are a lie. bot cuck will agree in 2 weeks when he is told to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,905 Posted September 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: Like every other lib, their fallback position is the truth. They know masks are a lie. bot cuck will agree in 2 weeks when he is told to. No I’ll always say I think masks help. But I’m ok with easing any requirements if test positivity is low. I’d also be in favor of not needing them in schools if they were able to institute daily testing instead (not likely). And I’ve never been in favor of vaccine mandates except for like nursing home employees. I’m not a law expert though, isn’t the mandate basically a federal one saying employers need to require it if over 100 employees? How will states get around that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted September 23, 2021 15 hours ago, Fireballer said: Holy sh!t. Whitmer worried about re-election ya think? They know the truth. The only thing more important than power is reelection or winning an election. When votes are secured or ballots are found under a table....they can go back to the power grab. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thornton Melon 622 Posted September 23, 2021 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: And I’ve never been in favor of vaccine mandates except for like nursing home employees. I’m not a law expert though, isn’t the mandate basically a federal one saying employers need to require it if over 100 employees? How will states get around that? The 10th Amendment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 23, 2021 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: And I’ve never been in favor of vaccine mandates except for like nursing home employees. I’m not a law expert though, isn’t the mandate basically a federal one saying employers need to require it if over 100 employees? How will states get around that? Same way they got around Obammycare. Everyone will be a contractor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,356 Posted September 23, 2021 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: No I’ll always say I think masks help. But I’m ok with easing any requirements if test positivity is low. I’d also be in favor of not needing them in schools if they were able to institute daily testing instead (not likely). And I’ve never been in favor of vaccine mandates except for like nursing home employees. I’m not a law expert though, isn’t the mandate basically a federal one saying employers need to require it if over 100 employees? How will states get around that? Do you even realize how stupid the mandate is? Why 100? Is 99 that much safer? It’s focking ridiculous just like the 100 pitch count in baseball Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,905 Posted September 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Do you even realize how stupid the mandate is? Why 100? Is 99 that much safer? It’s focking ridiculous just like the 100 pitch count in baseball agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted September 23, 2021 45 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Do you even realize how stupid the mandate is? Why 100? Is 99 that much safer? It’s focking ridiculous just like the 100 pitch count in baseball I would be very concerned if I was lucky employee #100. Last in, first out. BOOM! 99 employees and a b1tch mandate ain't one! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted September 23, 2021 22 hours ago, Fireballer said: Pure race hustler...is shocking and sad that his ideas have so much influence on our society Life in AmeriKKKa is so raciss when POC can't get a valid ID or a readily available vaccination. Evil Whitey is keeping them down!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites