lod001 1,344 Posted December 3, 2021 On 12/3/2021 at 9:38 AM, TimHauck said: "the jab" works, especially at preventing deaths. Except for the ones it kills. 100% positive they would disagree with you if they were not dead. On 12/3/2021 at 9:39 AM, Mr Anonymous said: A mild variant is a friggin' gift from nature. For low risk people, which is most of us, getting Omicron is an opportunity to further increase antibodies and build herd immunity. We shouldn't be doing anything to combat this from spreading amongst anyone aside from the high risk individuals. This whole thing continues to be manipulated and dealt with in the worst possible way. Of course that's by design so none of this is surprising. Yep. Exactly. They should allow this to circle the globe as fast as possible. The problem is the jackwads that keep getting the temporary juice are focking everything up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted December 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Seriously pathetic that this worm is still talking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: So you agree that the vaccines save lives? Your issue is that because Fauci has been wrong on some things that people don't trust the vaccine even though they should and not as many people have gotten them as would have otherwise? Has Fauci claimed that he specifically has saved lives? If not, then it's not hypocritical. The vaccine is saving lives. Mandating it isn't (and thus not mandating it isn't killing people). C'mon man. We don't really know that it's any more mild than prior strains yet (hopefully it is). ALL of the variants have been mostly mild. But ~0.5-1% still adds up. That’s your take away? I know the virus kills people, and he has half assed and been dishonest with his non scientific, political approach to stopping the spread of it. Not calling for the border to be shut down or at least saying people should be tested before coming in is proof of that, it’s not a “different issue”. It’s denial of science for political purposes. Guilty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Anonymous 24 Posted December 3, 2021 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: We don't really know that it's any more mild than prior strains yet (hopefully it is). ALL of the variants have been mostly mild. But ~0.5-1% still adds up. Big surprise everyone - Tim's chosen media hasn't informed him that Omicron hasn't hospitalized even one person in South Africa, much less killed anyone. But the jury is out if this is mild or not. Now why would they hide that from him? Oh, that's right, liberals need to hype these variants to justify mail in ballots as the only safe way to vote next election cycle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted December 3, 2021 White House says domestic travel vax requirements "on the table" for omicron. https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-says-domestic-travel-193406744.html White House says domestic travel vaccine requirements on the table due to omicron variant Brooke Singman Thu, December 2, 2021, 11:34 AM The White House on Thursday said a COVID-19 vaccine requirement for domestic travel is still on the table as the United States heads into the winter months and battles the new omicron variant, saying the Biden administration will continue to "evaluate and assess on a daily basis." President Biden on Thursday is set to formally announce a series of steps to take on COVID-19, including a requirement for all international passengers flying to the U.S. to test for COVID within 24 hours of departure – regardless of vaccination status – and an extension of its mask requirement on all domestic flights and public transportation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted December 3, 2021 49 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: That’s your take away? I know the virus kills people, and he has half assed and been dishonest with his non scientific, political approach to stopping the spread of it. Not calling for the border to be shut down or at least saying people should be tested before coming in is proof of that, it’s not a “different issue”. It’s denial of science for political purposes. Guilty. He is a doctor*....he's not a politician. It's not his call on the border. *- A real doctor- not like Dr. Eli David people keep tweeting. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363 Posted December 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: He is a doctor*....he's not a politician. It's not his call on the border. *- A real doctor- not like Dr. Eli David people keep tweeting. so then jackass, why can he say that yes people coming in on a plane need to be vaccinated and quarantine? science?? its his call onto protocols on planes, not on borders science!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted December 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: He is a doctor*....he's not a politician. It's not his call on the border. *- A real doctor- not like Dr. Eli David people keep tweeting. You think that was a political or a science question? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted December 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: so then jackass, why can he say that yes people coming in on a plane need to be vaccinated and quarantine? science?? its his call onto protocols on planes, not on borders science!!! Because in an enclosed structure with airflow systems and all that he probably knows a little more about how an infectious disease would operate in that setting. I mean- this isn't that hard to understand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted December 3, 2021 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: You think that was a political or a science question? Illegals crossing the border is a gotcha political question disguised as a science question. It is a dumb "if/then" scenario presented by a dumb reporter to appeal to a bunch of dumb people who can scream "Hell yeah" while spitting Hot Pocket crumbs all over their belly and computer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted December 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Illegals crossing the border is a gotcha political question disguised as a science question. It is a dumb "if/then" scenario presented by a dumb reporter to appeal to a bunch of dumb people who can scream "Hell yeah" while spitting Hot Pocket crumbs all over their belly and computer. What a waste of time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted December 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: What a waste of time. Typical for you...something is against what you believe and you shut down like a pissy pants b!tch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted December 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Typical for you...something is against what you believe and you shut down like a pissy pants b!tch. What I believe? I believe coronavirus is spread by contact, and we are not requiring a large swath of people who come here to not be tested for it, but requiring others to be. It’s either based on science or it isn’t. Which one is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted December 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: What I believe? I believe coronavirus is spread by contact, and we are not requiring a large swath of people who come here to not be tested for it, but requiring others to be. It’s either based on science or it isn’t. Which one is it? People coming on a plane and people walking across the border are not the same thing. Do you not understand why? Or are you mad about the Hot Pockets thing? Do you prefer Bagel Bites? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: That’s your take away? I know the virus kills people, and he has half assed and been dishonest with his non scientific, political approach to stopping the spread of it. Not calling for the border to be shut down or at least saying people should be tested before coming in is proof of that, it’s not a “different issue”. It’s denial of science for political purposes. Guilty. I think border crossers should be tested, yes. Looks like the rest of Fauci's answer was cut off by most clips but I'll admit I'm not really sure what all "Title 42" entails Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr Anonymous said: Big surprise everyone - Tim's chosen media hasn't informed him that Omicron hasn't hospitalized even one person in South Africa, much less killed anyone. But the jury is out if this is mild or not. Now why would they hide that from him? Oh, that's right, liberals need to hype these variants to justify mail in ballots as the only safe way to vote next election cycle. Not every case has been sequenced. Hospitalizations are increasing in the area where it was found. (But, like Delta, even increasing hospitalizations doesn't necessarily mean it's more dangerous). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted December 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: People coming on a plane and people walking across the border are not the same thing. Do you not understand why? Or are you mad about the Hot Pockets thing? Do you prefer Bagel Bites? Why aren’t they the same? They should be. One can come in with coronavirus, one can’t. Why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted December 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Why aren’t they the same? They should be. One can come in with coronavirus, one can’t. Why? People coming on a plane and people walking across the border are not the same thing. Do you not understand why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted December 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I think border crossers should be tested, yes. Looks like the rest of Fauci's answer was cut off by most clips but I'll admit I'm not really sure what all "Title 42" entails It's a health law that is on the books that the Trump administration authorized in order to turn away people at the border and deny them entrance to the country. Prior to that being enacted (I believe within the first month of the pandemic taking hold here) the US has always granted the right to seek asylum to people coming to the border. So as I have tried to say to hardcore a few times but he doesn't get it- the border crossing is more of a political question which Fauci is not, or should not, be answering. But flights and stuff like that fall more under his health jurisdiction. Again- it is a MSM reporter playing gotcha with a president Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,692 Posted December 3, 2021 4 hours ago, listen2me 23 said: It is quite wild what they are doing in Australia, a former free country. No one seems to care other than those who live there. Preach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,692 Posted December 3, 2021 4 hours ago, Mr Anonymous said: A mild variant is a friggin' gift from nature. For low risk people, which is most of us, getting Omicron is an opportunity to further increase antibodies and build herd immunity. We shouldn't be doing anything to combat this from spreading amongst anyone aside from the high risk individuals. This whole thing continues to be manipulated and dealt with in the worst possible way. Of course that's by design so none of this is surprising. Preach 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,874 Posted December 3, 2021 14 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: People coming on a plane and people walking across the border are not the same thing. Do you not understand why? Other than mode of transportation, no I personally do not. Enlighten me. Fauci cannot comment on the border by simply saying he believes they should be tested too? Is that so hard? How is that political? You are just making stuff up with "his jurisdiction" stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted December 3, 2021 1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said: Other than mode of transportation, no I personally do not. Enlighten me. Fauci cannot comment on the border by simply saying he believes they should be tested too? Is that so hard? How is that political? You are just making stuff up with "his jurisdiction" stuff. I have to believe at this point you guys are just being purposely obtuse at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,692 Posted December 3, 2021 3 hours ago, jerryskids said: Even Trevor Noah is starting to see the light. Good take. The problem with listening to a CEO of a vaccine company is the old "to a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail" adage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,692 Posted December 3, 2021 4 hours ago, TimHauck said: So you agree that the vaccines save lives? Your issue is that because Fauci has been wrong on some things that people don't trust the vaccine even though they should and not as many people have gotten them as would have otherwise? Has Fauci claimed that he specifically has saved lives? If not, then it's not hypocritical. The vaccine is saving lives. Mandating it isn't (and thus not mandating it isn't killing people). C'mon man. We don't really know that it's any more mild than prior strains yet (hopefully it is). ALL of the variants have been mostly mild. But ~0.5-1% still adds up. Anyone who is at high risk absolutely should get the vaccine. The powers that be want the rest of us to get the vaccine for two reasons: They have the CEO of vaccine companies in their ear They've been pimping the vaccines so hard and so long, they need to seem right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,692 Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said: Because in an enclosed structure with airflow systems and all that he probably knows a little more about how an infectious disease would operate in that setting. I mean- this isn't that hard to understand. You're high if you think that's the reason. These border crossers probably spend more time in closer quarters crammed in backs of trucks on their way to the border than anyone on a flight does. It's purely political. That's very, very obvious and very, very stupid since no one would even care if border crosses got tested. The only reason people are defending it is the blue team is doing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted December 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: I have to believe at this point you guys are just being purposely obtuse at this point. I assume your contention is they can spread it inside the plane. Makes sense I guess. Is that it? Because If it is you’re dumber or more ill informed than I imagined. You are aware they are put on buses and planes at the border and transported all over this country, right? Holy shite. You didn’t know that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363 Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said: People coming on a plane and people walking across the border are not the same thing. Do you not understand why? Or are you mad about the Hot Pockets thing? Do you prefer Bagel Bites? infected people are infected people PERIOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted December 3, 2021 We won’t be seeing Sean for a bit now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted December 3, 2021 mooney is a complete retard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363 Posted December 3, 2021 Cun7 face Psaki says we can ban domestic travel even but idiots like Tim and Sean thing the borders being open is cool for illegals https://www.instagram.com/reel/CXB2J_LA_s6/?utm_medium=copy_link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted December 3, 2021 20 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Cun7 face Psaki says we can ban domestic travel even but idiots like Tim and Sean thing the borders being open is cool for illegals https://www.instagram.com/reel/CXB2J_LA_s6/?utm_medium=copy_link The mouthpiece of the least liked President in history. And she delivers every press conference with 2 middle fingers up to the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted December 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: The mouthpiece of the least liked President in history. And she delivers every press conference with 2 middle fingers up to the world. So arrogant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,087 Posted December 3, 2021 Rumor: Celine Dion Is Paralyzed Due To Covid Vaccine (msn.com) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,087 Posted December 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: The mouthpiece of the least liked President in history. And she delivers every press conference with 2 middle fingers up to the world. She's worse than the Iraqi Information Minister was during the first Gulf War. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, nobody said: You're high if you think that's the reason. These border crossers probably spend more time in closer quarters crammed in backs of trucks on their way to the border than anyone on a flight does. It's purely political. That's very, very obvious and very, very stupid since no one would even care if border crosses got tested. The only reason people are defending it is the blue team is doing it. 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I assume your contention is they can spread it inside the plane. Makes sense I guess. Is that it? Because If it is you’re dumber or more ill informed than I imagined. You are aware they are put on buses and planes at the border and transported all over this country, right? Holy shite. You didn’t know that? 1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: infected people are infected people PERIOD Once more for the dummies....there are different systems at play in how people come here and they create different scenarios.....ON TOP OF THAT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY- there is a law on the books about the US handles this. It is not as simple as Dr. Fauci saying "Test the people at the border" because he is not someone who makes policy. He only advises on policy. Geez you guys are goofy. How do you function? I'd be mad at teachers too if three individual school systems failed you all so badly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363 Posted December 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Once more for the dummies....there are different systems at play in how people come here and they create different scenarios.....ON TOP OF THAT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY- there is a law on the books about the US handles this. It is not as simple as Dr. Fauci saying "Test the people at the border" because he is not someone who makes policy. He only advises on policy. Geez you guys are goofy. How do you function? I'd be mad at teachers too if three individual school systems failed you all so badly. but again he makes policy on domestic travel and planes cool I can guarantee he hasn't once damn time said we need to test everyone at the border and yah we got laws on the books ITS ILLEGAL TO ENTER THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY hows that working out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted December 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Once more for the dummies....there are different systems at play in how people come here and they create different scenarios.....ON TOP OF THAT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY- there is a law on the books about the US handles this. It is not as simple as Dr. Fauci saying "Test the people at the border" because he is not someone who makes policy. He only advises on policy. Geez you guys are goofy. How do you function? I'd be mad at teachers too if three individual school systems failed you all so badly. Then why doesn’t he advise to test at the border? Biden is under no obligation to take his advice. But he doesn’t. How come? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted December 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, NorthernVike said: Rumor: Celine Dion Is Paralyzed Due To Covid Vaccine (msn.com) I heard this months ago. I knew it was the juice taking her out of action when I heard she got the jab and later had major health issues. I see the article is from late OCT. Oh well, too bad. Sacrifices have to be made to pimp the jab. Don't care how much $ ya got. Don't care who has adverse reactions or dies, gotta pimp the death shot because it is making some people big $. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites