TimHauck 1,806 Posted August 24, 2022 43 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I haven't seen the vaccine do anything to protect anyone. It protects them from dying. C’mon man, you’re better than that 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,858 Posted August 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, TimHauck said: It protects them from dying. C’mon man, you’re better than that Maybe it helps those over the age of 60 but I don't it does anything for those who are younger. People are getting sick and recovering whether they have the vaccine or not. Not only are they get sick but they are getting it more than once. It's just hard to see that it's done much good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 989 Posted August 24, 2022 Three people in my small work department got Covid, two of the three got it twice, maybe all three got it twice, I can't remember for sure. A fourth got it as well. All had 3 to 4 shots prior to getting Covid-19 infection. The other day one of them said they thought they (our Company) would offer Covid-19 shots, when we got an email that flu shots would be administered the end of September. Someone said you mean get another Covid shot like every year? I said, the shot doesn't work, my doctor agrees. One of the four flippantly said, "that's not true". I had 2 covid shots, no booster(s). I haven't gotten Covid-19 ever. I stay away from the germs, although I was exposed to it, I didn't get it, because I keep my distance slightly, about 3 feet (and it was outside) when I talked to the person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,237 Posted August 24, 2022 Yep. They are cranking it up for an attack on Trump and they got a ton of Trump touting the 'vax' video to pimp when the time comes to claim the jab juice is in fact deadly. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/24/trump-white-house-exerted-pressure-on-fda-for-covid-19-emergency-use-authorizations-house-report-finds-00053428 The Democrats’ investigation also documents White House attempts to block the FDA from collecting additional safety data on Covid-19 vaccines in order to get them to the public before the 2020 presidential election. So much for 'safe and effective'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,237 Posted August 24, 2022 16 minutes ago, Gepetto said: Three people in my small work department got Covid, two of the three got it twice, maybe all three got it twice, I can't remember for sure. A fourth got it as well. All had 3 to 4 shots prior to getting Covid-19 infection. The other day one of them said they thought they (our Company) would offer Covid-19 shots, when we got an email that flu shots would be administered the end of September. Someone said you mean get another Covid shot like every year? I said, the shot doesn't work, my doctor agrees. One of the four flippantly said, "that's not true". I had 2 covid shots, no booster(s). I haven't gotten Covid-19 ever. I stay away from the germs, although I was exposed to it, I didn't get it, because I keep my distance slightly, about 3 feet (and it was outside) when I talked to the person. That one should place his order for a coffin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,806 Posted August 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, lod001 said: Yep. They are cranking it up for an attack on Trump and they got a ton of Trump touting the 'vax' video to pimp when the time comes to claim the jab juice is in fact deadly. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/24/trump-white-house-exerted-pressure-on-fda-for-covid-19-emergency-use-authorizations-house-report-finds-00053428 The Democrats’ investigation also documents White House attempts to block the FDA from collecting additional safety data on Covid-19 vaccines in order to get them to the public before the 2020 presidential election. So much for 'safe and effective'. Thanks for the link, it doesn’t say what you think it does. It says the Trump administration pressured the FDA to not include the 60-day safety follow up, but the FDA did in fact include it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,806 Posted August 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: Maybe it helps those over the age of 60 but I don't it does anything for those who are younger. People are getting sick and recovering whether they have the vaccine or not. Not only are they get sick but they are getting it more than once. It's just hard to see that it's done much good. Maybe, lol. It might not be doing much right now because almost everyone has natural immunity at this point. But it prevented many deaths in 2021, and would have been more if more people had taken it. 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,858 Posted August 25, 2022 11 hours ago, TimHauck said: Maybe, lol. It might not be doing much right now because almost everyone has natural immunity at this point. But it prevented many deaths in 2021, and would have been more if more people had taken it. I'm still concerned at what the vaccine is going to do to healthy people in the long term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted August 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I'm still concerned at what the vaccine is going to do to healthy people in the long term. It's 2 shots and who knows how many boosters to combat a benign disease in healthy people. Can only do damage. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,595 Posted August 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said: I'm still concerned at what the vaccine is going to do to healthy people in the long term. You shouldn't be. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,595 Posted August 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said: I'm still concerned at what the vaccine is going to do to healthy people in the long term. Regardless of what people in this thread will have you believe, the health agencies around the world are monitoring the safety of the vaccine. There is not a huge worldwide conspiracy where every government health cares agency in the world is covering up major issues with the vaccine. Anti-vaxxer's are gaining popularity right now and because of that the United States has its first polio outbreak in decades, measle outbreaks are becoming more common, etc. The covid-19 vaccine does reduce chance of death and hospitalization in people under the age of 65, and while the risk is low in that age group it is not 0. Although, the FDA/CDC has not done a good job explaining to people when to get the shot, if you still have antibodies from a previous infection then it is not worth it. I hope that they do a better job of communicating that this winter, but i would not hold my breath. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,806 Posted August 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said: Regardless of what people in this thread will have you believe, the health agencies around the world are monitoring the safety of the vaccine. There is not a huge worldwide conspiracy where every government health cares agency in the world is covering up major issues with the vaccine. Anti-vaxxer's are gaining popularity right now and because of that the United States has its first polio outbreak in decades, measle outbreaks are becoming more common, etc. The covid-19 vaccine does reduce chance of death and hospitalization in people under the age of 65, and while the risk is low in that age group it is not 0. Although, the FDA/CDC has not done a good job explaining to people when to get the shot, if you still have antibodies from a previous infection then it is not worth it. I hope that they do a better job of communicating that this winter, but i would not hold my breath. Agree with everything here except Covid vax skepticism isn’t the reason there is Polio in NY. That’s most likely from a history of vax skepticism from a particular religious sect. But, wouldn’t be surprised to see more diseases that we haven’t seen in a long time time start popping up more often… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted August 25, 2022 1 hour ago, MTSkiBum said: Regardless of what people in this thread will have you believe, the health agencies around the world are monitoring the safety of the vaccine. There is not a huge worldwide conspiracy where every government health cares agency in the world is covering up major issues with the vaccine. Anti-vaxxer's are gaining popularity right now and because of that the United States has its first polio outbreak in decades, measle outbreaks are becoming more common, etc. The covid-19 vaccine does reduce chance of death and hospitalization in people under the age of 65, and while the risk is low in that age group it is not 0. Although, the FDA/CDC has not done a good job explaining to people when to get the shot, if you still have antibodies from a previous infection then it is not worth it. I hope that they do a better job of communicating that this winter, but i would not hold my breath. What does any of this have to do with what may happen 5 years from now? He said he was concerned and he should be. We all should be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted August 25, 2022 14 hours ago, TimHauck said: Maybe, lol. It might not be doing much right now because almost everyone has natural immunity at this point. But it prevented many deaths in 2021, and would have been more if more people had taken it. Why were there more deaths in 2021 with the vaccine and there were in 2020 without the vaccine? now you are trying to justify why you were scared shitless for a year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted August 25, 2022 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: Agree with everything here except Covid vax skepticism isn’t the reason there is Polio in NY. That’s most likely from a history of vax skepticism from a particular religious sect. But, wouldn’t be surprised to see more diseases that we haven’t seen in a long time time start popping up more often… Of course, we re letting millions of unvaxed illegals enter our country and roam freely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,695 Posted August 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: Of course, we re letting millions of unvaxed illegals enter our country and roam freely. True dat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,806 Posted August 25, 2022 29 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: Of course, we re letting millions of unvaxed illegals enter our country and roam freely. Greater than 90% chance that person with Polio is an Orthodox Jew. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted August 25, 2022 23 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Greater than 90% chance that person with Polio is an Orthodox Jew. Go away, that has nothing to do with my post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,806 Posted August 25, 2022 26 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: Go away, that has nothing to do with my post. Go away, your post has nothing to do with why there is polio in NY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 593 Posted August 25, 2022 4 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: I'm still concerned at what the vaccine is going to do to healthy people in the long term. I find this argument funny. people concern themselves with this yet some of those same people take street drugs or drink like fish and there is actually proof these things are harmful. the reality is there can be side effects with every drug you take. . Aspirin, Tylenol, basic cold meds can also have side effects and people dont think twice about it. a person in my family has a food allergy to onions and garlic and cant eat any processed/fast food without getting very ill (because they put garlic and onion powder in everything) I suppose if you live a clean life and only eat organic, and dont take any drugs of any kind, this kind of argument makes sense and jives with your lifestyle. but we have lots of data now on the vaccine. millions have had the jab. short term effects are known. we cant prove the long term effects because not enough time has passed. its about as safe as we can prove with data. I have had covid. and I still have some health issues still lingering as a result of having caught it. If I can keep others from having my experience I would do so. if you have bad side effects from Covid, its Not good. and I would like you not to have my experience with the virus. in the end, it is your choice, and I respect that. but do your research. there are two sides to the argument but there is also a lot of misinformation out there. make sure you get your info from a trusted source. internet chat boards are not the most reliable source for information. good luck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted August 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, Ray_T said: I have had covid. and I still have some health issues still lingering as a result of having caught it. If I can keep others from having my experience I would do so. How do you propose the do this? I have an idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,806 Posted August 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Baker Boy said: Why were there more deaths in 2021 with the vaccine and there were in 2020 without the vaccine? now you are trying to justify why you were scared shitless for a year. 35%+ of the deaths in 2021 happened before the vaccine was really available. Most of the remaining were unvaccinated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,695 Posted August 25, 2022 The greatest tennis player in the world won’t be able to participate in the US Open because he won’t get useless chemicals injected into his body. Yet illegals stream across our borders everyday and don’t even get tested. Some of you voted for this. We would be better off if you didn’t vote anymore. You can’t handle it. Or better yet just leave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,806 Posted August 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: The greatest tennis player in the world won’t be able to participate in the US Open because he won’t get useless chemicals injected into his body. Yet illegals stream across our borders everyday and don’t even get tested. Some of you voted for this. We would be better off if you didn’t vote anymore. You can’t handle it. Or better yet just leave. Djokovic could become a US citizen then he won’t have to take the vaccine. ‘Merica! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,695 Posted August 26, 2022 26 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Djokovic could become a US citizen then he won’t have to take the vaccine. ‘Merica! Do you have to respond to everything? You’re not interesting enough. Take a play or two off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,806 Posted August 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Do you have to respond to everything? You’re not interesting enough. Take a play or two off. Says the guy with 77,000 posts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,695 Posted August 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Says the guy with 77,000 posts I’m interesting. You’re not. HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,695 Posted August 26, 2022 The more that time passes, the more Alex Berenson is vindicated. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,806 Posted August 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: The more that time passes, the more Alex Berenson is vindicated. What are you referring to? Like how he promised not to settle his lawsuit against twitter but then did anyway? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,237 Posted August 26, 2022 11 hours ago, TimmySmith said: It's 2 shots and who knows how many boosters to combat a benign disease in healthy people. Can only do damage. Tim hack would love a shotglass full fo it so he could gargle it. On 8/24/2022 at 7:06 PM, TimHauck said: Thanks for the link, it doesn’t say what you think it does. It says the Trump administration pressured the FDA to not include the 60-day safety follow up, but the FDA did in fact include it. You idiot. You cannot comprehend anything. That's why you look like such a complete fool in this thread. What I'm showing is that the D's are setting the stage for their flip and blame Trump for this disastrously useless deadly garbage. It doesn't matter if the FDA included it. It's what the Ds will pimp to their brainwashed followers. Idiot. You gotta be shonuff. I mean you are easy his level of retardation. 11 hours ago, MTSkiBum said: Regardless of what people in this thread will have you believe, the health agencies around the world are monitoring the safety of the vaccine. Yeah and countries are starting to realize how horrible & deadly this crap is. UK is questioning the excess deaths. https://rairfoundation.com/germanys-largest-health-insurer-reveals-1-in-25-clients-underwent-medical-treatment-in-2021-for-covid-vaccine-side-effects/ Germany's largest health insurer reveals 1 in 25 clients underwent medical treatment in 2021 for COVID 'vaccine' side effects, an increase of 3,000%, w/1 in 500 injections expected to cause serious side effects, including permanent disability & death. Now that's what I call 'safe & effective'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,237 Posted August 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, TimHauck said: What are you referring to? Like how he promised not to settle his lawsuit against twitter but then did anyway? Your level of ignorance is off the charts, shonuff. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,806 Posted August 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, lod001 said: Tim hack would love a shotglass full fo it so he could gargle it. You idiot. You cannot comprehend anything. That's why you look like such a complete fool in this thread. What I'm showing is that the D's are setting the stage for their flip and blame Trump for this disastrously useless deadly garbage. It doesn't matter if the FDA included it. It's what the Ds will pimp to their brainwashed followers. Idiot. You gotta be shonuff. I mean you are easy his level of retardation. Yeah and countries are starting to realize how horrible & deadly this crap is. UK is questioning the excess deaths. https://rairfoundation.com/germanys-largest-health-insurer-reveals-1-in-25-clients-underwent-medical-treatment-in-2021-for-covid-vaccine-side-effects/ Germany's largest health insurer reveals 1 in 25 clients underwent medical treatment in 2021 for COVID 'vaccine' side effects, an increase of 3,000%, w/1 in 500 injections expected to cause serious side effects, including permanent disability & death. Now that's what I call 'safe & effective'. Why do they need a story for their brainwashed followers? Won’t they all be dead this time next year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,695 Posted August 26, 2022 Switzerland never shut down. They did fine. What a bunch of idiots we were after a certain point. I’m pissed I got that vaccine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,806 Posted August 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Switzerland never shut down. They did fine. They also have a high vax rate and no excess deaths currently Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 1,516 Posted August 26, 2022 30 minutes ago, lod001 said: Your level of ignorance is off the charts, shonuff. I think he might be dumber than ShoNuff. And that's saying something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted August 26, 2022 Can there be 2 liars in the world as dumb as shonuff was? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,695 Posted August 26, 2022 48 minutes ago, Horseman said: I think he might be dumber than ShoNuff. And that's saying something. That’s why I don’t think he’s Shonuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,806 Posted August 28, 2022 My man Jeffrey with an epic takedown of the unEthical Skeptic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,050 Posted August 28, 2022 On 8/24/2022 at 3:33 PM, Gepetto said: Three people in my small work department got Covid, two of the three got it twice, maybe all three got it twice, I can't remember for sure. A fourth got it as well. All had 3 to 4 shots prior to getting Covid-19 infection. The other day one of them said they thought they (our Company) would offer Covid-19 shots, when we got an email that flu shots would be administered the end of September. Someone said you mean get another Covid shot like every year? I said, the shot doesn't work, my doctor agrees. One of the four flippantly said, "that's not true". I had 2 covid shots, no booster(s). I haven't gotten Covid-19 ever. I stay away from the germs, although I was exposed to it, I didn't get it, because I keep my distance slightly, about 3 feet (and it was outside) when I talked to the person. I think people claiming they got covid multiple times are claiming that to get off work. All the shìtbags where I work magically got covid 3 or more times while everyone else got it once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,904 Posted August 28, 2022 1 minute ago, nobody said: I think people claiming they got covid multiple times are claiming that to get off work. All the shìtbags where I work magically got covid 3 or more times while everyone else got it once. Yep, Biden is doing the same thing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites