TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 8, 2021 11 hours ago, KSB2424 said: I don't think Facui and the rest "meant' to do this but it went wildly wrong and is now covering up his tracks. Whatever he was 40 years ago, he's an old tired corrupt king now. He probably didn't even realize he had "tracks". His side will turn on him eventually and claim they invented it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 8, 2021 12 hours ago, TimHauck said: So the definition of “vaccination” includes “vaccine”? Isn’t that against the rules of the English language? You're slipping down the lying hole again. Immunity vs. Protection is no small change. It totally discounts any form of Immunity not from a syringe. Over and over and over. Don't be a shill bot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted September 8, 2021 12 hours ago, Fireballer said: So will this study prove that over the top vaccination nazis are a bunch of bleeding kvnts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted September 8, 2021 2 hours ago, TimmySmith said: You're slipping down the lying hole again. Immunity vs. Protection is no small change. It totally discounts any form of Immunity not from a syringe. Over and over and over. Don't be a shill bot. I mean I don't see the big deal. If anything this just looks like they're correcting an old misleading statement that seemingly implied that all vaccines are 100% effective which most aren't. See also: flu vaccines. And yes lod, the CDC calls them vaccines - https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/keyfacts.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 8, 2021 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: I mean I don't see the big deal. If anything this just looks like they're correcting an old misleading statement that seemingly implied that all vaccines are 100% effective which most aren't. See also: flu vaccines. And yes lod, the CDC calls them vaccines - https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/keyfacts.htm They are using people like you for chumps again. They are eliminating the scientific call for immunity for the feel good of "protection". Thus they can now inject you for anything and everything without any recourse, under that guise, and you will go along with it. And come here and fight for it. Such a stooge. They don't even have to hide it anymore to you people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted September 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: They are using people like you for chumps again. They are eliminating the scientific call for immunity for the feel good of "protection". Thus they can now inject you for anything and everything without any recourse, under that guise, and you will go along with it. And come here and fight for it. Such a stooge. They don't even have to hide it anymore to you people. Newsflash buddy, they already do that. Measles mumps and rubella all have a greater than 99% survival rate and that vaccine is required for most schools Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted September 8, 2021 3 hours ago, TimHauck said: I mean I don't see the big deal. If anything this just looks like they're correcting an old misleading statement that seemingly implied that all vaccines are 100% effective which most aren't. See also: flu vaccines. And yes lod, the CDC calls them vaccines - https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/keyfacts.htm You idiot. They changed the definition to fit the garbage they are pumping into people. I don't give a fock what the CDC calls them. By definition BEFORE the CDC changed the definition, they were absolutely NOT 'vaccines'. They are corrupt liars so their opinion does not count. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted September 8, 2021 These people should be out of a job. Just look at how much influence they have over our own local Covid idiots. They are wrong time and time again and never face any consequences. https://taibbi.substack.com/p/moral-majority-media-strikes-again-cd2?s=09 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masshole 642 Posted September 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Reality said: These people should be out of a job. Just look at how much influence they have over our own local Covid idiots. They are wrong time and time again and never face any consequences. https://taibbi.substack.com/p/moral-majority-media-strikes-again-cd2?s=09 If you aren't subscribed to Taibbi's Substack, what's wrong with you? I don't think his podcasts are that good, but his writings - wow. I don't know if there is a writer around now who is better than MT. This paragraph from that story. 3 sentences long, totally explains our toxic media environment: News has become a corporatized version of the “Two Minutes Hate,” in which the goal of every broadcast is an anxiety-ridden audience provoked to the point of fury by the un-policed infamy of whatever wreckers are said to be threatening civilization this week: the unvaccinated, insurrectionists, Assadists, Greens, Bernie Bros, Jill Stein, Russians, the promoters of “white supremacy culture,” etc. Mistakes are inevitable because this brand of media business isn’t about accuracy, but rallying audiences to addictive disgust. As a result, most press people now shrug off the odd error or six, so long as they feel stories are directionally right, i.e. aimed at deserving targets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted September 8, 2021 On 9/7/2021 at 3:24 PM, TimHauck said: This isn't a study, it's a meta analysis and includes the Elgazzar study which has been retracted. Next. You lose AGAIN!!! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8415515/ Removing Elgazzar, decreases confidence to 77% for severe COVID-19 and 78% for mild-to-moderate COVID-19. We also re-examined the causality hypothesis under the most unfavorable conditions to the difference hypothesis, which occurs when the Elgazzar trial is removed. The posterior probability for the hypothesis of a causal link between COVID-19 severity, ivermectin, and mortality is still strongly supported (91.2%) in the absence of Elgazzar 2020. In our view, this Bayesian analysis, based on the statistical study data, provides sufficient confidence that ivermectin is an effective treatment for COVID-19 and this belief supports the conclusions of Bryant over those of Roman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, lod001 said: You lose AGAIN!!! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8415515/ Removing Elgazzar, decreases confidence to 77% for severe COVID-19 and 78% for mild-to-moderate COVID-19. We also re-examined the causality hypothesis under the most unfavorable conditions to the difference hypothesis, which occurs when the Elgazzar trial is removed. The posterior probability for the hypothesis of a causal link between COVID-19 severity, ivermectin, and mortality is still strongly supported (91.2%) in the absence of Elgazzar 2020. In our view, this Bayesian analysis, based on the statistical study data, provides sufficient confidence that ivermectin is an effective treatment for COVID-19 and this belief supports the conclusions of Bryant over those of Roman. Again, meta analyses are not studies. If they initially included at least one fraudulent study (which some claim should have been obvious that it was fraudulent), how do we know the others are any good either? Do you have any links to any individual studies that you like? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, lod001 said: You lose AGAIN!!! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8415515/ Removing Elgazzar, decreases confidence to 77% for severe COVID-19 and 78% for mild-to-moderate COVID-19. We also re-examined the causality hypothesis under the most unfavorable conditions to the difference hypothesis, which occurs when the Elgazzar trial is removed. The posterior probability for the hypothesis of a causal link between COVID-19 severity, ivermectin, and mortality is still strongly supported (91.2%) in the absence of Elgazzar 2020. In our view, this Bayesian analysis, based on the statistical study data, provides sufficient confidence that ivermectin is an effective treatment for COVID-19 and this belief supports the conclusions of Bryant over those of Roman. It is of the utmost importance to discredit that study, the findings of which has not been discredited by any scientist. Or anyone else for that matter. That study must be shelved to save the big lie, and liars are only too happy to do it, even though they don't know why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted September 8, 2021 JFC what a raging kunt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted September 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: It is of the utmost importance to discredit that study, the findings of which has not been discredited by any scientist. Or anyone else for that matter. That study must be shelved to save the big lie, and liars are only too happy to do it, even though they don't know why. Which "study" are you referring to? Lod's link (which isn't a study) was just posted by the authors today Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted September 8, 2021 This shlt is being pushed by nazis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted September 8, 2021 17 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: This shlt is being pushed by nazis. Yep. Politics trumps science Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 8, 2021 31 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Which "study" are you referring to? Lod's link (which isn't a study) was just posted by the authors today The Elgazzar study that you been told is so dangerous. It is, to your people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, TimmySmith said: It is of the utmost importance to discredit that study, the findings of which has not been discredited by any scientist. Or anyone else for that matter. That study must be shelved to save the big lie, and liars are only too happy to do it, even though they don't know why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Yep, good example. Must be discredited without any reference to the data. It's dangerous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted September 8, 2021 https://www.khoury.northeastern.edu/people/james-heathers/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted September 8, 2021 Well timmy boy, the MU variant is completely resistant to the jab juice. What ya got now? Keep pimping the worthless garbage? Even eric ding a ling who is a total vax pimping idiot had to admit the MU variant wont stop covid at all. I told you from the get go that this sh1t was worthless. You can jab the fock outta yourself and it wont help you. Can ya show me some studies where the jab juice will give you immunity from covid. MWAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted September 8, 2021 2 hours ago, TimmySmith said: It is of the utmost importance to discredit that study, the findings of which has not been discredited by any scientist. Or anyone else for that matter. That study must be shelved to save the big lie, and liars are only too happy to do it, even though they don't know why. https://grftr.news/why-was-a-major-study-on-ivermectin-for-covid-19-just-retracted/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted September 8, 2021 28 minutes ago, lod001 said: Well timmy boy, the MU variant is completely resistant to the jab juice. What ya got now? Keep pimping the worthless garbage? Even eric ding a ling who is a total vax pimping idiot had to admit the MU variant wont stop covid at all. I told you from the get go that this sh1t was worthless. You can jab the fock outta yourself and it wont help you. Can ya show me some studies where the jab juice will give you immunity from covid. MWAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! https://www.fox4news.com/news/covid-19-mu-variant-found-in-dallas-county ”some of the protection of the Pfizer vaccine is still effective.” I haven’t read much on Mu yet. But from what I’ve seen if it does make the vaccines worthless it will probably make natural immunity worthless too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 893 Posted September 8, 2021 22 hours ago, Fireballer said: dude. wtf???? my wife was talking about some of her friends who mentioned problems like this after vax. wow. are the vax nazis still willing to give to their daughters right now???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted September 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, porkbutt said: dude. wtf???? my wife was talking about some of her friends who mentioned problems like this after vax. wow. are the vax nazis still willing to give to their daughters right now???? I've known this for almost 9 months. Just imagine what else that sh1t is doing inside the body. It doesn't go away from what I understand either. it's criminal that they didn't shut the crap down after a month. Hell, its criminal that the CDC allowed this crap to be pumped into anyone when they knew the problems it was going to cause. This POS should be publicly executed with a guillotine: Dr. Anthony Fauci: "It is very clear now...that there are severe adverse outcomes for mother and baby during COVID-19 infection. Therefore, it is extremely important for pregnant women and women planning to get pregnant to get vaccinated." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted September 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Sick focks. The sh!t doesn't work and they are still pushing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,929 Posted September 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Fireballer said: So when it came to getting the jab my team was 60/40. I'm willing to bet at least half will get the jab to keep their job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted September 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: So when it came to getting the jab my team was 60/40. I'm willing to bet at least half will get the jab to keep their job. At this point, since it doesn't work, seems they want to try and remove the control group as much as possible. Or they are completely incompetent idiots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 893 Posted September 9, 2021 wow imagine starting a fed job out of college as a woman and being forced to take the vax after reading that they going to do 1.6 million study about the effects it has on mentrual cycles. straight focking evil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,929 Posted September 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, porkbutt said: wow imagine starting a fed job out of college as a woman and being forced to take the vax after reading that they going to do 1.6 million study about the effects it has on mentrual cycles. straight focking evil. I'm halfway through my career. I have no intention of taking the booster. I'm sure this new policy will include taking the booster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, porkbutt said: wow imagine starting a fed job out of college as a woman and being forced to take the vax after reading that they going to do 1.6 million study about the effects it has on mentrual cycles. straight focking evil. The feds are about to fire 100,000s in the middle of a horrible economy. Talk about pandering to their side. It's vile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted September 9, 2021 It's not a coincidence that the psychos are announcing this right after the virus has peaked. They will say the jab juice will end the 'pandemic' and the sheeple will believe it, even though the sh1t doesn't stop it. They know the worst is behind them and the new variants are weaker....just like every coronavirus before it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted September 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: I'm halfway through my career. I have no intention of taking the booster. I'm sure this new policy will include taking the booster. Feel free to quote me on this but I don't think that happens. Even many that got the first 2 won't want the booster, at least not before a year has passed from dose 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted September 9, 2021 As I predicted, they are going to roll the jab juice into the flu shot in order to get some more uninformed people jabbed. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/moderna-developing-single-dose-covid-19-flu-combo-vaccine-1.5578445?dc_data=6814179_samsung-carnival-canada&utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=referral&ui=aaedc879-9171-4f51-bf31-4a6772e88e6d-tuct833c0b1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 9, 2021 45 minutes ago, lod001 said: As I predicted, they are going to roll the jab juice into the flu shot in order to get some more uninformed people jabbed. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/moderna-developing-single-dose-covid-19-flu-combo-vaccine-1.5578445?dc_data=6814179_samsung-carnival-canada&utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=referral&ui=aaedc879-9171-4f51-bf31-4a6772e88e6d-tuct833c0b1 You mean say they are doing it, and give you a flu shot, because, as we know, its' the flu. In mild form. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted September 9, 2021 He said...as a parent, he wouldn't want a government making such a personal decision. The internet is forever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted September 9, 2021 This woman played Russian roulette with the jab juice and lost badly. https://www.citizensjournal.us/florida-woman-dies-of-brain-disease-after-taking-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted September 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Fireballer said: He said...as a parent, he wouldn't want a government making such a personal decision. The internet is forever. Has Newsom made comments about kids and the covid vaccine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites