Coronavirus - Doomsday

[TimHauck 2,906]

1 hour ago, Casual Observer said:

Liberal bullshit mill Buzzfeed declares the ivermectin study a fraud.  Says nothing about two of the major vaccine manufacturers losing all data on their control groups.  Amazing.  

That’s totally different from fraud.  The reason they “lost data on the control groups” was for ethical reasons to allow the placebo group to take the vaccine in the middle of a pandemic.   But that was after it already was proven effective.   And yet I’m pretty sure that’s basically the reason Pierre Kory has said he won’t due RCT’s with Ivermectin, because it works so well that he couldn’t live with himself if he deprived people of Ivermectin by giving them a placebo!

[Casual Observer 597]

17 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

That’s totally different from fraud.  The reason they “lost data on the control groups” was for ethical reasons to allow the placebo group to take the vaccine in the middle of a pandemic.   But that was after it already was proven effective.   And yet I’m pretty sure that’s basically the reason Pierre Kory has said he won’t due RCT’s with Ivermectin, because it works so well that he couldn’t live with himself if he deprived people of Ivermectin by giving them a placebo!

Sure, man.  They lost the data on control groups for ethical reasons, which are unknown to anyone on the face of the planet.  You tried to sidestep this before, but given all of the vaccinated people that are ending up hospitalized with Covid and the need for multiple more jabs of these mRNA vaccines, I think we're safe in concluding that the "vaccines" either don't work or don't work for very long.  Meanwhile, those that advocated for Ivermectin or HCQ get silenced and deplatformed.  

[TimHauck 2,906]

1 hour ago, TimmySmith said:

Sure you were, as you have been.  You even mentioned Joe Rogan, who is now the hated poster boy on the internet.  Who cares what Joe Rogan did, and I certainly am not up on him, but I can't find any place where he said it was "better" than the vaccine, which you claimed he "may" have said.   You know why you are told to promote Joe Rogan hate?  Because he is a threat. You are told to think he is a threat to national health, but in reality he is a threat to the livelihoods of very powerful people.  And you are simply their stooge.  

Bret Weinstein has said Ivermectin is a “near perfect prophylactic” and has alluded to the fact that he thinks Ivermectin should be given instead of the vaccine.  He and Ivermectin’s #1 fan Pierre Kory were on Rogan’s podcast (which is like the #1 podcast in the world or something, so a lot of people care what he thinks), I listened to some of it awhile back but can’t remember exactly what Rogan himself said, hence the “I believe” comment.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/biologist-tucker-ivermectin-effective-covid-moots-vaccine

 

[TimHauck 2,906]

6 minutes ago, Casual Observer said:

Sure, man.  They lost the data on control groups for ethical reasons, which are unknown to anyone on the face of the planet.  You tried to sidestep this before, but given all of the vaccinated people that are ending up hospitalized with Covid and the need for multiple more jabs of these mRNA vaccines, I think we're safe in concluding that the "vaccines" either don't work or don't work for very long.  Meanwhile, those that advocated for Ivermectin or HCQ get silenced and deplatformed.  

I don’t agree with the people being silenced and deplatformed about Ivermectin.  HCQ was proven to be not effective btw.

The vaccines aren’t quite as effective as we originally thought, particularly against infection, but that is likely largely due to Delta.  But they are still very effective even at 6+ months so far (but not 100%) at preventing severe disease and death.

What do you mean the reasons are unknown?  They let people voluntarily take the vaccine that were in the placebo group once it became available to the general population.

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I don’t agree with the people being silenced and deplatformed about Ivermectin.  HCQ was proven to be not effective btw.

The vaccines aren’t quite as effective as we originally thought, particularly against infection, but that is likely largely due to Delta.  But they are still very effective even at 6+ months so far (but not 100%) at preventing severe disease and death.

What do you mean the reasons are unknown?  They let people voluntarily take the vaccine that were in the placebo group once it became available to the general population.

 

This is what they say. Couldn’t it also be that the people who were at the highest risk already have had their numbers reduced. Seems logical to me if variant one kills 600k and those that survive did so because they weren’t at risk well then there is less weak individuals for it to kill

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I don’t agree with the people being silenced and deplatformed about Ivermectin.  HCQ was proven to be not effective btw.

The vaccines aren’t quite as effective as we originally thought, particularly against infection, but that is likely largely due to Delta.  But they are still very effective even at 6+ months so far (but not 100%) at preventing severe disease and death.

What do you mean the reasons are unknown?  They let people voluntarily take the vaccine that were in the placebo group once it became available to the general population.

 

This is what they say. Couldn’t it also be that the people who were at the highest risk already have had their numbers reduced. Seems logical to me if variant one kills 600k and those that survive did so because they weren’t at risk well then there is less weak individuals for it to kill

 

Basically I had it I never felt like I was gonna die I never felt like it was anything that major but I have a strong immune system so do the rest of the people so they’re getting sick but they’re not dying at the same rate that doesn’t mean that the vaccine is being affective

 

There’s also a CDC report saying at least 80% of the population is been exposed and had some type of immunity those could all be major factors yes the only thing they want to push us to stupid vaccine

[lod001 1,344]

3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I don’t agree with the people being silenced and deplatformed about Ivermectin.  HCQ was proven to be not effective btw.

 

Wrong again as usual. 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7534595/

https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/hydro-treatment-study

https://newsrescue.com/suddenly-so-many-studies-show-efficacy-of-hydroxychloroquine-against-covid-by-up-to-200/

[Casual Observer 597]

4 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I don’t agree with the people being silenced and deplatformed about Ivermectin.  HCQ was proven to be not effective btw.

The vaccines aren’t quite as effective as we originally thought, particularly against infection, but that is likely largely due to Delta.  But they are still very effective even at 6+ months so far (but not 100%) at preventing severe disease and death.

What do you mean the reasons are unknown?  They let people voluntarily take the vaccine that were in the placebo group once it became available to the general population.

 

You would never get rid of that data.  Never.  Moreover, you wouldn't intentionally pollute your control group.  That whole story is bullshit.  They destroyed that data to hide it.  Your failure to point that out and admit it speaks volumes.

The "vaccines" are not effective or not effective for very long.  This is proven by vaccinated hospitalization rates and the need for a third jab.  Nebulous terms like severe disease are belied by the fact the vaccinated are hospitalized.

[lod001 1,344]

So the case in Ohio where the judge forced the hospital to give the patient on a ventilator, ivermectin.:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/butler-county-woman-testifies-controversial-141500734.html

https://www.daytondailynews.com/local/butler-county-woman-testifies-that-controversial-drug-helped-her-husband-in-covid-19-fight/74C7YZOFL5GGTJTPF2KCL2EQTQ/

there has been a "remarkable improvement" in the past three days after the use of Ivermectin, as his level of dependency on the ventilator has dropped from 100 percent to 50 percent.

3 days.

If he survives, which looks promising, that's 3-0 for the judges/ivermectin forcing the hospital to do the right thing.

 

 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

19 minutes ago, lod001 said:

So the case in Ohio where the judge forced the hospital to give the patient on a ventilator, ivermectin.:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/butler-county-woman-testifies-controversial-141500734.html

https://www.daytondailynews.com/local/butler-county-woman-testifies-that-controversial-drug-helped-her-husband-in-covid-19-fight/74C7YZOFL5GGTJTPF2KCL2EQTQ/

there has been a "remarkable improvement" in the past three days after the use of Ivermectin, as his level of dependency on the ventilator has dropped from 100 percent to 50 percent.

3 days.

If he survives, which looks promising, that's 3-0 for the judges/ivermectin forcing the hospital to do the right thing.

 

 

Why is any and every covid treatment drug "controversial"? Do the libs want everyone who catches covid to not get treatment? 

[TimHauck 2,906]

48 minutes ago, Casual Observer said:

You would never get rid of that data.  Never.  Moreover, you wouldn't intentionally pollute your control group.  That whole story is bullshit.  They destroyed that data to hide it.  Your failure to point that out and admit it speaks volumes.

The "vaccines" are not effective or not effective for very long.  This is proven by vaccinated hospitalization rates and the need for a third jab.  Nebulous terms like severe disease are belied by the fact the vaccinated are hospitalized.

“Never,” except they did the same exact thing with the polio vaccine which was approved in ~9 months - https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/blog/sixtieth-anniversary-polio-pioneers

I don’t think there’s much difference between “severe disease” and hospitalization.  The vaccines are ~80-90%+ effective at preventing hospitalization according to most data.  I think the “need” for the third jab is still up for debate.

[TimHauck 2,906]

34 minutes ago, lod001 said:

So the case in Ohio where the judge forced the hospital to give the patient on a ventilator, ivermectin.:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/butler-county-woman-testifies-controversial-141500734.html

https://www.daytondailynews.com/local/butler-county-woman-testifies-that-controversial-drug-helped-her-husband-in-covid-19-fight/74C7YZOFL5GGTJTPF2KCL2EQTQ/

there has been a "remarkable improvement" in the past three days after the use of Ivermectin, as his level of dependency on the ventilator has dropped from 100 percent to 50 percent.

3 days.

If he survives, which looks promising, that's 3-0 for the judges/ivermectin forcing the hospital to do the right thing.

 

 

Wait didn’t you already say it didn’t work once they were that sick?

What were the other 2 cases?  I do remember reading of at least one other one but don’t remember the outcome.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Gettin paid OT bot?

[TimHauck 2,906]

3 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

This is what they say. Couldn’t it also be that the people who were at the highest risk already have had their numbers reduced. Seems logical to me if variant one kills 600k and those that survive did so because they weren’t at risk well then there is less weak individuals for it to kill

 

Basically I had it I never felt like I was gonna die I never felt like it was anything that major but I have a strong immune system so do the rest of the people so they’re getting sick but they’re not dying at the same rate that doesn’t mean that the vaccine is being affective

 

There’s also a CDC report saying at least 80% of the population is been exposed and had some type of immunity those could all be major factors yes the only thing they want to push us to stupid vaccine

You sound drunk.  How old are you?(curious in terms of your covid symptoms)

Cumulatively speaking, Delta is more deadly, no question.  At least one study has shown it increases the risk of hospitalization.  There’s a chance each individual infection is comparable in deadliness but it’s more contagious so more infections ultimately leads to more deaths.

The “the weak already died” argument was dumb to begin with but really went out the window when Florida’s daily covid deaths reached its highest of the entire pandemic.  They do have a decent amount of people vaccinated, but 1) the deaths do seem to be largely amongst the unvaccinated, although tough to know for sure since they hide/distort a lot of their data - 

 

and 2) their vaccination rate is likely boosted by non-resident snowbirds/tourists that got vaccinated there.  Regardless, even their allegedly “decent” vaccination rate still left a lot of people unvaccinated.

Link to this CDC document?  I actually posted something similar but it says more like 20% (as of July)  - https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#national-lab

[TimHauck 2,906]

2 hours ago, lod001 said:

Wrong again as usual. 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7534595/

https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/hydro-treatment-study

https://newsrescue.com/suddenly-so-many-studies-show-efficacy-of-hydroxychloroquine-against-covid-by-up-to-200/

This is what a real study looks like - https://www.recoverytrial.net/news/statement-from-the-chief-investigators-of-the-randomised-evaluation-of-covid-19-therapy-recovery-trial-on-hydroxychloroquine-5-june-2020-no-clinical-benefit-from-use-of-hydroxychloroquine-in-hospitalised-patients-with-covid-19

 

(This is the same trial that showed the effectivess of dexamethasone, a cheap generic).

Do you have any more suggested reading on Ivermectin?  You mentioned an article earlier, but again am also willing to read studies if you have any good ones to suggest (preferably not meta analyses but beggars can’t be choosers I guess).

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360]

59 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

You sound drunk.  How old are you?(curious in terms of your covid symptoms)

Cumulatively speaking, Delta is more deadly, no question.  At least one study has shown it increases the risk of hospitalization.  There’s a chance each individual infection is comparable in deadliness but it’s more contagious so more infections ultimately leads to more deaths.

The “the weak already died” argument was dumb to begin with but really went out the window when Florida’s daily covid deaths reached its highest of the entire pandemic.  They do have a decent amount of people vaccinated, but 1) the deaths do seem to be largely amongst the unvaccinated, although tough to know for sure since they hide/distort a lot of their data - 

 

and 2) their vaccination rate is likely boosted by non-resident snowbirds/tourists that got vaccinated there.  Regardless, even their allegedly “decent” vaccination rate still left a lot of people unvaccinated.

Link to this CDC document?  I actually posted something similar but it says more like 20% (as of July)  - https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#national-lab

1) I don’t drink. I do use a lot of voice text though  I’m 46

 

[lod001 1,344]

8 hours ago, TimHauck said:

This is what a real study looks like - https://www.recoverytrial.net/news/statement-from-the-chief-investigators-of-the-randomised-evaluation-of-covid-19-therapy-recovery-trial-on-hydroxychloroquine-5-june-2020-no-clinical-benefit-from-use-of-hydroxychloroquine-in-hospitalised-patients-with-covid-19

 

(This is the same trial that showed the effectivess of dexamethasone, a cheap generic).

Do you have any more suggested reading on Ivermectin?  You mentioned an article earlier, but again am also willing to read studies if you have any good ones to suggest (preferably not meta analyses but beggars can’t be choosers I guess).

 

Your 'real' study is bogus BS. It's a known fact that studies were done with HCQ, giving lethal amounts, in order to cause deaths. You can deny that all ya want.

I already posted the link to over 100 studies. Not posting it again. C19 ivermectin.com or something like that.

 

[lod001 1,344]

9 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Wait didn’t you already say it didn’t work once they were that sick?

What were the other 2 cases?  I do remember reading of at least one other one but don’t remember the outcome.

I post sh1t the doctors I follow believe. I don't make sh1t up. Yes, both made remarkable recoveries. You can deny ivermectin all you want but as usual, you are wrong. I can only laugh that the best you can do is say something like 'but didn't you say', because this shows once again, you are clueless and simply won't admit you are completely wrong. A well known shotard trait.

[Cdub100 3,929]

2 hours ago, lod001 said:

Your 'real' study is bogus BS. It's a known fact that studies were done with HCQ, giving lethal amounts, in order to cause deaths. You can deny that all ya want.

I already posted the link to over 100 studies. Not posting it again. C19 ivermectin.com or something like that.

 

Some of the studies only gave HCQ and not zinc and some form of Doxcycline.

 

[TimHauck 2,906]

2 hours ago, lod001 said:

Your 'real' study is bogus BS. It's a known fact that studies were done with HCQ, giving lethal amounts, in order to cause deaths. You can deny that all ya want.

I already posted the link to over 100 studies. Not posting it again. C19 ivermectin.com or something like that.

 

I don’t have time to read 100 studies.  Can you share one that you like?   I think you also mentioned an article earlier, can you share that? 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

And here we go.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/oklahomas-ers-backed-people-overdosing-053822589.html

[TimHauck 2,906]

9 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

1) I don’t drink. I do use a lot of voice text though  I’m 46

 

“Some form” of immunity.  That’s including the vaccine

[Cdub100 3,929]

7 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

And here we go.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/oklahomas-ers-backed-people-overdosing-053822589.html

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure they are.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

2 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure they are.

And here, he says it's because of covid, no mention of ivermectin.  what a stooge they are making of this doctor, botcuck, and everyone trying to derail their gravy train

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/tulsaworld.com/news/state-and-regional/watch-now-this-is-not-just-covid-domino-effect-backs-up-oklahoma-hospitals-with-no/article_20c0d850-0a62-11ec-a376-e7df03dd09bf.amp.html

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

“Some form” of immunity.  That’s including the vaccine

And your point is??

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360]

Don’t forget to take your daily covid pills 

[Cdub100 3,929]

1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Don’t forget to take your daily covid pills 

And wear 27 masks.

[TimHauck 2,906]

2 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

And your point is??

Here is your quote earlier:

18 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

This is what they say. Couldn’t it also be that the people who were at the highest risk already have had their numbers reduced. Seems logical to me if variant one kills 600k and those that survive did so because they weren’t at risk well then there is less weak individuals for it to kill

 

Basically I had it I never felt like I was gonna die I never felt like it was anything that major but I have a strong immune system so do the rest of the people so they’re getting sick but they’re not dying at the same rate that doesn’t mean that the vaccine is being affective

 

There’s also a CDC report saying at least 80% of the population is been exposed and had some type of immunity those could all be major factors yes the only thing they want to push us to stupid vaccine

You said “80%...have been exposed” which is not true, since the vaccine doesn’t “expose” you.   But I’m not sure what you’re even getting at here...you’re saying “all they want to push is the stupid vaccine,” meanwhile basically saying that the vaccine is the reason 80% of people have some type of immunity.”   So you agree the vaccines work?

[TimHauck 2,906]

2 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Don’t forget to take your daily covid pills 

Isn’t that Ivermectin?

[Reality 3,121]

Cuz, huh?

 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

13 minutes ago, Reality said:

Cuz, huh?

 

Highly contagious Delta variant.

[TimHauck 2,906]

9 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Highly contagious Delta variant.

it's true

[TimmySmith 2,782]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

it's true

Obviously, every news source says it.

 

[Cloaca du jour 2,151]

Prepare for schools to be masking up and going virtual again.

Its comin....I hope not, but the magic 8 ball says its likely

[Cloaca du jour 2,151]

I know of four people vaxxed in march that are sick with covid and feeling crappy..fever, congestion..nothing too serious..been a few days.

[TimHauck 2,906]

28 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Obviously, every news source says it.

 

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.02.21258076v3.full-text

Quote

our results shown in Fig. 4 indicate that the Delta variant is ×1.3-1.7 (50% bCI) fold more transmissible than earlier/co-circulating SARS-CoV-2 lineages in Delhi, including the Alpha variant

[TimHauck 2,906]

39 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said:

Prepare for schools to be masking up and going virtual again.

Its comin....I hope not, but the magic 8 ball says its likely

Many schools were already masking up

[Baker Boy 1,703]

33 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Many schools were already masking up

Child abuse since there is no science to back this up.
 

If I were a parent I would want my child to build their own natural immunity when they are t an age when there is little chance of death. Man will never beat Mother Nature and the people that think we can are very dangerous to the human race.

[Fireballer 2,642]

 

[Cdub100 3,929]

51 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

 

Covid cult at it again.