Coronavirus - Doomsday

[edjr 6,607]

On 9/12/2021 at 10:19 PM, huskyhater75 said:

Cracks me up how all the trumpsters (especially in sec country) are too dumb to get there shots (morons believe all the trump BS about the virus), then when they DO get sick they come a-whining about it. Pathetic losers.

     "It'll go away then the weather gets warmer"

     "Injest some Lysol somehow into your lungs and it will go away".

     "It's all a hoax"...........................quotes from don chump, WORST president EVER

[Cdub100 3,928]

12 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

So contagious that you hear many people who tested positive sleep in thr same bed as their spouse.  Go about daily business in house with kids.  And none of the others test positive.

We cured the flu! Woo hoo!  Even yearly vaccinations couldn't do that!

It's amazing people actually believe that. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

On 9/12/2021 at 10:19 PM, huskyhater75 said:

Cracks me up how all the trumpsters (especially in sec country) are too dumb to get there shots (morons believe all the trump BS about the virus), then when they DO get sick they come a-whining about it. Pathetic losers.

     "It'll go away then the weather gets warmer"

     "Injest some Lysol somehow into your lungs and it will go away".

     "It's all a hoax"...........................quotes from don chump, WORST president EVER

THERE way dumb dumbs. THERE way way morons. 

[TimHauck 2,905]

3 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

So contagious that you hear many people who tested positive sleep in thr same bed as their spouse.  Go about daily business in house with kids.  And none of the others test positive.

We cured the flu! Woo hoo!  Even yearly vaccinations couldn't do that!

How do you know the same doesn’t happen with the flu?

And isn’t the flu shot usually only like 40% effective?

42+ million people have had covid, it must be pretty contagious right?   Some may say less due to supposed “false positives” (which of course would mean a higher death rate but the people claiming that usually don’t understand math), some say more due to uncounted cases, so I think it’s safe to say at least that number have had it.

”just asking questions”

 

 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

Dumbass anti-vaxxers gargling iodine. 

 

https://boingboing.net/2021/09/14/anti-vaxxers-now-stupidly-gargling-iodine-and-using-it-as-eye-drops-to-fight-off-covid-19.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=anti-vaxxers-now-stupidly-gargling-iodine-and-using-it-as-eye-drops-to-fight-off-covid-19

[Baker Boy 1,702]

 

Vaccinated people can get Covid.

Vaccinated people can give Covid to others.

Congress is exempt from Covid Vaccine mandates.

USPS is exempt from Covid vaccine mandates.

Tens of thousands of non vaccinated illegal aliens are being released into the USA.

Over 99% of people under 55 are not in danger of dying from Covid.

If you want to work you have to get the vaccine but if you collect welfare you don’t.
 

Don’t be afraid to see what you see.

[Casual Observer 597]

5 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Dumbass anti-vaxxers gargling iodine. 

 

https://boingboing.net/2021/09/14/anti-vaxxers-now-stupidly-gargling-iodine-and-using-it-as-eye-drops-to-fight-off-covid-19.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=anti-vaxxers-now-stupidly-gargling-iodine-and-using-it-as-eye-drops-to-fight-off-covid-19

Are you David Pescovitz?  Wouldn't surprise me.  They even depicted bottles with Cyrllic characters on it. The esteemed boingboing, by way of Rolling Stone.

Dumbasses believing anything Rolling Stone writes. 

[Fireballer 2,642]

41 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Dumbass anti-vaxxers gargling iodine. 

 

https://boingboing.net/2021/09/14/anti-vaxxers-now-stupidly-gargling-iodine-and-using-it-as-eye-drops-to-fight-off-covid-19.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=anti-vaxxers-now-stupidly-gargling-iodine-and-using-it-as-eye-drops-to-fight-off-covid-19

Not that I'm defending any of this, but the article literally says they are putting spray in the nose and eyes with a few drops of iodine mixed in and gargling with Listerine.  Nobody is "gargling iodine".

[Cdub100 3,928]

23 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Not that I'm defending any of this, but the article literally says they are putting spray in the nose and eyes with a few drops of iodine mixed in and gargling with Listerine.  Nobody is "gargling iodine".

It's like the injecting bleach lie. It's all they have.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

I've seen this posted on Facebook a few times:

WOULD YOU PUT THIS IN YOUR BODY?

Ethanol

Propyl Acetate

2-Methylpropyl acetate

Propanol

n-Butyl acetate

2-Methylpropanol

2-Methylbutyl acetate

n-Butyl propanoate

n-Butanol

n-Pentyl acetate

2-Methylbut-3-enyl acetate

2-Methylbutanol

3-Methylbut-3-enyl acetate

3-Methylbutanol

3-Methylbut-2-enyl acetate

n-Pentanol

n-Hexyl acetate

E-Hex-3-enyl acetate

Z-Hex-3-enyl acetate

Hex-4-enyl acetate

E-Hex-2-enyl acetate

n-Hexanol

Z-Hex-3-enol

E-Hex-2-enol

n-Hexyl-2-methylbutanoate

n-Heptanol

Camphor

n-Octanol

n-Oct-2-enol

1-Methoxy-4-(2 propenyl)-benzene

 

Then come all the "fock no!" comments, with the poster eventually noting that this is the chemical composition of an apple.

 

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Interesting......

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/09/covid-hospitalization-numbers-can-be-misleading/620062/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

[TimHauck 2,905]

17 hours ago, Gepetto said:

 

Research article published in Nature 

• Published: 09 November 2015

A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence

https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

Here we examine the disease potential of a SARS-like virus, SHC014-CoV, which is currently circulating in Chinese horseshoe bat populations¹. Using the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system², we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone. The results indicate that group 2b viruses encoding the SHC014 spike in a wild-type backbone can efficiently use multiple orthologs of the SARS receptor human angiotensin converting enzyme II (ACE2), replicate efficiently in primary human airway cells and achieve in vitro titers equivalent to epidemic strains of SARS-CoV. Additionally, in vivo experiments demonstrate replication of the chimeric virus in mouse lung with notable pathogenesis. Evaluation of available SARS-based immune-therapeutic and prophylactic modalities revealed poor efficacy; both monoclonal antibody and vaccine approaches failed to neutralize and protect from infection with CoVs using the novel spike protein. On the basis of these findings, we synthetically re-derived an infectious full-length SHC014 recombinant virus and demonstrate robust viral replication both in vitro and in vivo. Our work suggests a potential risk of SARS-CoV re-emergence from viruses currently circulating in bat populations.

 

SHC014-CoV

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SHC014-CoV
Virus classification
(unranked):	Virus
Realm:	Riboviria
Kingdom:	Orthornavirae
Phylum:	Pisuviricota
Class:	Pisoniviricetes
Order:	Nidovirales
Family:	Coronaviridae
Genus:	Betacoronavirus
Subgenus:	Sarbecovirus
Species:	Severe acute respiratory syndrome–related coronavirus
Strain:	SHC014-CoV
Synonyms[1]
Bat SARS-like coronavirus RsSHC014

SHC014-CoV is a SARS-like coronavirus (SL-COV) which infects horseshoe bats (family Rhinolophidae). It was discovered in Kunming County in Yunnan Province, China. It was discovered along with SL-CoV Rs3367, which was the first bat SARS-like coronavirus shown to directly infect a human cell line. The line of Rs3367 that infected human cells was named Bat SARS-like coronavirus WIV1.^[2]

Contents

• 1Discovery
• 2Virology
• 3Phylogenetic
• 4See also
• 5References
• 6References

Discovery

From April 2011 to September 2012, researchers from the Wuhan Institute of Virology collected 117 anal swabs and fecal samples of bats from a Chinese rufous horseshoe bats (Rhinolophus sinicus) colony in Kunming City (Yunnan Province in south-western China). 27 out of 117 samples (23%) contained seven different isolates of SARS-like coronaviruses, among which were two previously unknown, called RsSHC014 and Rs3367.^[2]

Virology

In 2013, bat SARS-like coronavirus Rs3367 was shown to be able to directly infect the human HeLa cell line. It was the first time that human cells had been infected with a bat SARS-like coronavirus in the lab. The strain of Rs3367 that infected the human cells was named “Bat SARS-like coronavirus WIV”.^[2]

In 2015, the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and the Wuhan Institute of Virology conducted research showing that SHC014 could be made to infect the human HeLa cell line, through the use of reverse genetics to create a chimeric virus consisting of a surface protein of SHC014 and the backbone of a SARS corona-virus.^[3][4]

The SL-SHC014-MA15 version of the virus, primarily engineered to infect mice, has been shown to differ by over 5,000 nucleotides from SARS-CoV-2, the cause of the COVID-19 pandemic.^[5]

 

 https://www.kennedy.senate.gov/public/2021/6/kennedy-calls-for-answers-on-nih-ties-to-wuhan-institute-of-virology

 

June 15 2021

WASHINGTON – Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) today urged Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), to give Congress a comprehensive list of NIH grants awarded to Dr. Peter Daszak. Daszak is the president of EcoHealth Alliance, which funneled U.S. tax dollars to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV).

“Dr. Peter Daszak was the only American citizen involved in the WHO investigation. Reports show that, at the instruction of Dr. Daszak himself, the WHO investigation did not look into information about at least 16,000 previously studied virus samples from a deleted WIV database,” wrote Kennedy.

The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), an NIH subsidiary, gave a $3.4 million grant to EcoHealth Alliance, a non-governmental organization. EcoHealth Alliance then sent $600,000 from this grant to the WIV. Previously, Daszak had strongly condemned the idea that the pandemic originated in a lab as a “conspiracy theory.” 

“In light of this troubling constellation of facts, I am requesting the NIH issue a report to Congress with a detailed listing of all of the grants that the NIH or any subsidiary agency, including the NIAID, has given to Dr. Daszak at any point, including details regarding how each grant intended to use that funding. . . . Americans deserve substantive, transparent answers to where the virus originated, what sparked the pandemic, and who may be responsible,” Kennedy concluded.

If there’s an American villain of covid, it’s Daszak.  Not sure why people are going after Fauci, at worst he’s a middleman.   This dude is the one they should be going after.

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

If there’s an American villain of covid, it’s Daszak.  Not sure why people are going after Fauci, at worst he’s a middleman.   This dude is the one they should be going after.

No reason we can't go after both.   They're both scum who broke the law.

[TimHauck 2,905]

On 9/13/2021 at 2:12 PM, Casual Observer said:

Again , you're purporting to respond to a question nobody asked.  No one, especially me, said anything about it "being bad" or not "being bad" previously.  The point was the expected decline that was supposed to occur in mid-September actually coming true and that that decline is due to some natural occurrence, not due to vaccination efforts or lack thereof.

The Arkansas spike began in Spring of this year and that's what the chart showed.  That has nothing to do with in-person instruction beginning in late Summer of 2020.  Again, you're muddying the waters and your response by trying to refer some other unquantified spike not shown on the Arkansas chart posted previously.  There has not been a spike, or succession of spikes in Arkansas, each worse than the prior one, in Arkansas over the past year.  The rest is you talking out of your a55 again.

The 2021 spike in Arkansas basically peaked the first week of many schools opening, and some had already started.  In 2020, it appears their winter peak started creeping up around the start of school (which was delayed compared to when it normally was).  I didn’t say schools opening “always” led to more cases or even were the main reason, but there is often a correlation (not speaking of Arkansas specifically).   For example, it was offered as part of the explanation for the rise in South Dakota in 2020, in addition to Sturgis.

Is there a question you actually were asking?  I don’t understand what your point is.  Yet again you are harping on the eventual decline in cases/deaths.  Which of course was gong to happen, when things go up they must come down, I never doubted that so “you’re purporting to respond to a question that nobody asked.” But it’s reasonable to conclude that it got that high to begin with (hospitalizations as high as they had ever been, deaths not far behind) due to vaccinations or lack thereof.  The only states that are seeing new waves of deaths coming close to prior peaks are those with lower vaccination rates.    Florida being the one exception, but it’s not like their vaccination rate is super high, and their vaccine numbers probably include many tourists and non-permanent residents that got vaccinated there.

And you’re right, you didn’t say it was bad. I did. And it was.   Having your highest hospitalizations of the entire pandemic when vaccines are widely availbable...is bad.

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

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And you’re right, you didn’t say it was bad. I did. And it was.   Having your highest hospitalizations of the entire pandemic when vaccines are widely availbable...is bad.

As noted in the report I linked to above, the severity of hospitalizations now is not the same as it was a year ago.  So, comparing numbers now to previous peaks is misleading.

[BudBro 183]

3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

42+ million people have had covid, it must be pretty contagious right?   Some may say less due to supposed “false positives” (which of course would mean a higher death rate but the people claiming that usually don’t understand math), some say more due to uncounted cases, so I think it’s safe to say at least that number have had it.

”just asking questions”

 

 

42+M, then, have the same immunity (perhaps better immunity according to the Israel report) as those who have been vaccinated, since that is the point of the vaccination.  If one has co-morbidities or is above 65 years of age, it is probably wise to consider the shots to build the anitibodies in the plasma and bone marrow for use if they catch the virus.  If one is younger and has a high chance to survive the virus, a shot likely isn't needed.  The Atlantic article today shows that most of the people hospitalized have been vaccinated and are being hospitalized for reasons other than covid, only to test positive once in the hospital.

Another study found that those who survived sars-cov-1 17 years ago still had antibodies needed to fight sars-cov-2, even though the strains are 22% different.  That means that booster shots are not needed once the antibodies have been created and stored.  If a person has had covid and a positive pcr test, there is no reason to fear them being unvaxxed. 

[TimHauck 2,905]

17 minutes ago, Strike said:

As noted in the report I linked to above, the severity of hospitalizations now is not the same as it was a year ago.  So, comparing numbers now to previous peaks is misleading.

Interesting just saw that thanks for sharing.  I agree, hospitalizations are just one metric and can potentially be misleading.  However, as mentioned their deaths got to about 75% of the prior peak.

[TimHauck 2,905]

15 minutes ago, BudBro said:

42+M, then, have the same immunity (perhaps better immunity according to the Israel report) as those who have been vaccinated, since that is the point of the vaccination.  If one has co-morbidities or is above 65 years of age, it is probably wise to consider the shots to build the anitibodies in the plasma and bone marrow for use if they catch the virus.  If one is younger and has a high chance to survive the virus, a shot likely isn't needed.  The Atlantic article today shows that most of the people hospitalized have been vaccinated and are being hospitalized for reasons other than covid, only to test positive once in the hospital.

Another study found that those who survived sars-cov-1 17 years ago still had antibodies needed to fight sars-cov-2, even though the strains are 22% different.  That means that booster shots are not needed once the antibodies have been created and stored.  If a person has had covid and a positive pcr test, there is no reason to fear them being unvaxxed. 

The Atlantic article doesn’t say most of those hospitalized are vaccinated.  In fact it’s subtly saying exactly the opposite:

Total % mild or asymptomatic: 48%

Unvaccinated 45%

Vaccinated 57%

 

So the unvaccinated are weighing a lot more on that number.

 

[BudBro 183]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

The Atlantic article doesn’t say most of those hospitalized are vaccinated.  In fact it’s subtly saying exactly the opposite:

Total % mild or asymptomatic: 48%

Unvaccinated 45%

Vaccinated 57%

 

So the unvaccinated are weighing a lot more on that number.

 

Researchers from Harvard Medical School, Tufts Medical Center, and the Veterans Affairs Healthcare System took on the task of trying to figure out how serious Covid cases were in those hospitalized, and how many people counted as Covid hospitalizations were actually in the hospital for Covid, versus getting a Covid test after being admitted for something else. 

The study "analyzed the electronic records for nearly 50,000 COVID hospital admissions at the more than 100 VA hospitals across the country," The Atlantic wrote. It "checked to see whether each patient required supplemental oxygen or had a blood oxygen level below 94 percent" in order to try and determine if cases met the NIH's threshold for "severe COVID". 

What the study found was that from March 2020 to January 2021, 36% of Covid cases in the hospital were mild or asymptomatic. From January 2021 to June 2021, during the Delta variant's spread, that number rose all the way to 48%. For vaccinated hospital patients, the number rose to a stunning 57%. 

As The Atlantic put it in their own words: "The study suggests that roughly half of all the hospitalized patients showing up on COVID-data dashboards in 2021 may have been admitted for another reason entirely, or had only a mild presentation of disease."

Either way, those who have already tested positive for covid are as safe to you as those who have been vaccinated. 

[Casual Observer 597]

35 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

The 2021 spike in Arkansas basically peaked the first week of many schools opening, and some had already started.  In 2020, it appears their winter peak started creeping up around the start of school (which was delayed compared to when it normally was).  I didn’t say schools opening “always” led to more cases or even were the main reason, but there is often a correlation (not speaking of Arkansas specifically).   For example, it was offered as part of the explanation for the rise in South Dakota in 2020, in addition to Sturgis.

Is there a question you actually were asking?  I don’t understand what your point is.  Yet again you are harping on the eventual decline in cases/deaths.  Which of course was gong to happen, when things go up they must come down, I never doubted that so “you’re purporting to respond to a question that nobody asked.” But it’s reasonable to conclude that it got that high to begin with (hospitalizations as high as they had ever been, deaths not far behind) due to vaccinations or lack thereof.  The only states that are seeing new waves of deaths coming close to prior peaks are those with lower vaccination rates.    Florida being the one exception, but it’s not like their vaccination rate is super high, and their vaccine numbers probably include many tourists and non-permanent residents that got vaccinated there.

And you’re right, you didn’t say it was bad. I did. And it was.   Having your highest hospitalizations of the entire pandemic when vaccines are widely availbable...is bad.

That's great.  We were talking about a chart that showed a spike beginning early this Summer, extrapolating to a peak and dropping off mid-September.  No mention of 2020.  Stop talking out of your a55.

[TimHauck 2,905]

Just now, Casual Observer said:

That's great.  We were talking about a chart that showed a spike beginning early this Summer, extrapolating to a peak and dropping off mid-September.  No mention of 2020.  Stop talking out of your a55.

The reason for talking about the 2021 spike was because of how high it got. Not to point out the obvious and say, “well it will come down eventually.”

The 2020 comment was just in relation to the general observation that there’s often (but not always) a correlation to schools opening and increased case.

[TimHauck 2,905]

14 minutes ago, BudBro said:

Researchers from Harvard Medical School, Tufts Medical Center, and the Veterans Affairs Healthcare System took on the task of trying to figure out how serious Covid cases were in those hospitalized, and how many people counted as Covid hospitalizations were actually in the hospital for Covid, versus getting a Covid test after being admitted for something else. 

The study "analyzed the electronic records for nearly 50,000 COVID hospital admissions at the more than 100 VA hospitals across the country," The Atlantic wrote. It "checked to see whether each patient required supplemental oxygen or had a blood oxygen level below 94 percent" in order to try and determine if cases met the NIH's threshold for "severe COVID". 

What the study found was that from March 2020 to January 2021, 36% of Covid cases in the hospital were mild or asymptomatic. From January 2021 to June 2021, during the Delta variant's spread, that number rose all the way to 48%. For vaccinated hospital patients, the number rose to a stunning 57%. 

As The Atlantic put it in their own words: "The study suggests that roughly half of all the hospitalized patients showing up on COVID-data dashboards in 2021 may have been admitted for another reason entirely, or had only a mild presentation of disease."

Either way, those who have already tested positive for covid are as safe to you as those who have been vaccinated. 

Agree with your last paragraph.  Maybe even moreso.

But yes, I read the article.  However, you stated “most of the people hospitalized have been vaccinated.”  The article did not say that, and based on the numbers it’s saying exactly the opposite.

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5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Agree with your last paragraph.  Maybe even moreso.

But yes, I read the article.  However, you stated “most of the people hospitalized have been vaccinated.”  The article did not say that, and based on the numbers it’s saying exactly the opposite.

Ok, I'm not looking deeper, but 57% seems like it would fit in the "most" category (being above 50 and all). 

Peace!

[Masshole 642]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

If there’s an American villain of covid, it’s Daszak.  Not sure why people are going after Fauci, at worst he’s a middleman.   This dude is the one they should be going after.

Yup.   I doubt Fauci even really knew, in any kind of meaningful way, what they were doing there.    Daszak not only was the triggerman, they let him lead the original WHO "investigation" that said that it wasn't lab created.   

[Gepetto 1,371]

2 hours ago, BudBro said:

Ok, I'm not looking deeper, but 57% seems like it would fit in the "most" category (being above 50 and all). 

Peace!

It reads that Of vaccinated people in the hospital that tested positive for Covid  57% of those cases were mild or asymptomatic.  It does not say anything about what percentage of people in the hospital with Covid were vaccinated.  It could be anything, it doesn't say.

[shorepatrol 1,870]

10 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

So contagious that you hear many people who tested positive sleep in thr same bed as their spouse.  Go about daily business in house with kids.  And none of the others test positive.

We cured the flu! Woo hoo!  Even yearly vaccinations couldn't do that!

Yep. Wife and daughter had it last year. Changed nothing. My son, son in law and myself never got it or didn't know if we had it. 

[Cdub100 3,928]

Thank God Carl the flight attendant got this domestic terrorist off the plane.

 

[IndyColtsFan 325]

Twila, get yer fat ass down to the feed store and get me some horse dewormer and iodine. I gots teh COVID, and my fellow die-hard Trump lovers say this stuff knocks out teh COVID, if you can convince the doctors to take me off the ventilator here in the hospital first so I can ingest that stuff and wash it down with an ice-cold Bud Light. Yeeeeeeeeehaaaaaawwww!

[Utilit99 4,099]

19 minutes ago, IndyColtsFan said:

Twila, get yer fat ass down to the feed store and get me some horse dewormer and iodine. I gots teh COVID, and my fellow die-hard Trump lovers say this stuff knocks out teh COVID, if you can convince the doctors to take me off the ventilator here in the hospital first so I can ingest that stuff and wash it down with an ice-cold Bud Light. Yeeeeeeeeehaaaaaawwww!

Newbie's alive and kicking!!!! 

[Cdub100 3,928]

1 minute ago, Utilit99 said:

Newbie's alive and kicking!!!! 

Rusty,

[Utilit99 4,099]

Just now, Cdub100 said:

Rusty,

Crap. I get them all mixed up. Trouble with liberal tribbles.

[IndyColtsFan 325]

1 minute ago, Cdub100 said:

Rusty,

I saw in the Yooper Feed Store flyer that shoving smelt up your butt prevents COVID, but you already knew this. Yoop on! 

[IndyColtsFan 325]

2 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Crap. I get them all mixed up. Trouble with liberal tribbles.

The unfunniest of the unfunny.

[Utilit99 4,099]

Just now, IndyColtsFan said:

The unfunniest of the unfunny.

Fagdandy replies again. 

[Cdub100 3,928]

1 minute ago, IndyColtsFan said:

I saw in the Yooper Feed Store flyer that shoving smelt up your butt prevents COVID, but you already knew this. Yoop on! 

I can tell it's you because of your fancy ten cent writing. 

[IndyColtsFan 325]

5 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

I can tell it's you because of your fancy ten cent writing. 

My writing is free, much like Yooper inbreeding, resulting in Soldiers of Capt. Crazysauce. Smelt it and dealt it! Yeeeeehaaaewww!

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Rusty is a spastic little fella

[listen2me 23 1,873]

The NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero initially reported that five assistant coaches, all of whom are vaccinated, tested positive but updated that number shortly after to six coaches and a team nutritionist – all fully vaccinated.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

16 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

The NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero initially reported that five assistant coaches, all of whom are vaccinated, tested positive but updated that number shortly after to six coaches and a team nutritionist – all fully vaccinated.

But that's 0.0002 of all coaches everywhere. No vax is 100%. They will be mild cases.   There are a few others. bot knows them.

[listen2me 23 1,873]

It is funny because the NFL said if outbreak happens because of an unvaccinated player teams may have to forfeit games.  But some how outbreak amongst vaccinated is A OK.  

It is comical.