Coronavirus - Doomsday

[TimHauck 2,906]

6 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

"wasn't probably fake"?

Sorry, was

[TimmySmith 2,782]

4 hours ago, Fireballer said:

Cry more

I literally woulda told the chashier..."Once you get past the taste, it's really not that bad'"

 

Nothing when she bought those glasses? Nothing? Seriously?

[TimmySmith 2,782]

6 hours ago, Utilit99 said:

 

Rachel Maddow, liberal media figures slammed for 'taking the bait' on false story about Ivermectin overdoses

A number of mainstream media figures and outlets appear to have been fooled by a false story that some Oklahoma hospitals were overwhelmed with patients having overdosed on the drug Ivermectin, a parasite-fighting medication that can also be sold over the counter as a veterinary drug.

The story, which was originally reported at Oklahoma's KFOR-TV news, quoted testimony from Dr. Jason McElyea claiming that hospitals in a rural part of Oklahoma were being overrun with patients overdosing on the drug, causing gunshot victims to having to wait to be treated. 

It was later deemed false after the Northeastern Hospital System denied any patients were treated for overdoses from the drug and that McElyea hadn't actually worked at one of the hospitals in question for two months.

In a series of tweets and articles flagged by journalist Drew Holden, well-known liberal media figures, like MSNBC host Rachel Maddow, and prominent outlets like Rolling Stone shared and reported on the false story for their millions of viewers and followers, with no apparent action being taken by Twitter to combat the misinformation. 

"We’ve got to talk about the Rolling Stone invermectin (sic) article. Turns out the story about rural hospitals so flooded with ODs that they couldn’t treat other patients was made up, entirely invented. A lot of people took the bait, and I’ve got the screenshots," Holden tweeted, referencing Rolling Stone publishing their own piece on the false story, one of the first following the original reporting.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/rachel-maddow-liberal-figures-false-story-hospitals-ivermectin-overdoses

I debunked it in 30 seconds. The author should be jailed for lying.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

On 9/4/2021 at 8:34 AM, TimmySmith said:

And here we go.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/oklahomas-ers-backed-people-overdosing-053822589.html

Oooops. botcucks lying mentors are now covering their tracks. And blaming the Dr.:lol:

[TimHauck 2,906]

2 hours ago, Cdub100 said:

I bought a bunch of ZiverdoKits last year. I've used the kits 3 times over the year when I felt ill. I also gave some away to friends who asked. I wanted just the IVM and HCQ since getting zinc isn't a problem.

ETA  - I'm trying Ivermeticn as a preventive. I also believe I had covid early on. I'm also vaxxed. I just might be a unicorn.

How’d you get the prescription?  FLCCC?

[TimHauck 2,906]

2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Ima call bullshiot on this story.  Apparently she owns a horse, but she has never been to the feed store or otherwise ever bought supplies for her horse?  Or are there so many feed stores and horse owners in this thriving equine metropolis that the people working there don't know her as a horse owner? 

I’m assuming she probably hasn’t had to buy the Ivermectin in awhile so this was probably the first time she’s had to buy it since it’s been in the news.

Fair point on the second part.  However if this was somewhere like a Tractor Supply, they have almost 2,000 stores some of which aren’t really in small towns, so it is possible those stores don’t know all of their customers.

 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

17 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I’m assuming she probably hasn’t had to buy the Ivermectin in awhile so this was probably the first time she’s had to buy it since it’s been in the news.

Fair point on the second part.  However if this was somewhere like a Tractor Supply, they have almost 2,000 stores some of which aren’t really in small towns, so it is possible those stores don’t know all of their customers.

 

Or she's just another lying sos like you.

[jerryskids 6,827]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I’m assuming she probably hasn’t had to buy the Ivermectin in awhile so this was probably the first time she’s had to buy it since it’s been in the news.

Fair point on the second part.  However if this was somewhere like a Tractor Supply, they have almost 2,000 stores some of which aren’t really in small towns, so it is possible those stores don’t know all of their customers.

 

My first point wasn't about Ivermectin; it's certainly possible she hasn't needed it before.  But she had to buy horse supplies Tim, so that they might infer that she has a horse!  The implication being that getting horse supplies was an unusual thing for a horse owner.   

[fandandy 3,313]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

My first point wasn't about Ivermectin; it's certainly possible she hasn't needed it before.  But she had to buy horse supplies Tim, so that they might infer that she has a horse!  The implication being that getting horse supplies was an unusual thing for a horse owner.   

Why are you focused on this?

Make a lasting thread.  Something of import.

Challenge our collective minds.

What the fock is this?  Covid.  

Three hundred and fifty-four pages and on it goes.

Add something.  You are smart.

 

 

[fandandy 3,313]

This thread is where the dumb people congregate. 

[fandandy 3,313]

If there was Raid for stupidity I would spray it in this thread.

[jerryskids 6,827]

2 minutes ago, fandandy said:

Why are you focused on this?

Make a lasting thread.  Something of import.

Challenge our collective minds.

What the fock is this?  Covid.  

Three hundred and fifty-four pages and on it goes.

Add something.  You are smart.

 

 

Different things interest me.  In this thread for instance, I'm intrigued by the sticktoitiveness of @TimHauck in continuing his pretty much solo battle against the board anti-vaxxers.  I'm not an anti-vaxxer but I like to throw in some small surgical jabs at Tim to see how it is received. 

[fandandy 3,313]

14 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Different things interest me.

Start a thread with something else interesting.

[TimHauck 2,906]

7 hours ago, jerryskids said:

My first point wasn't about Ivermectin; it's certainly possible she hasn't needed it before.  But she had to buy horse supplies Tim, so that they might infer that she has a horse!  The implication being that getting horse supplies was an unusual thing for a horse owner.   

I didn’t get the impression that she had never been there, just that she hadn’t had to buy Ivermectin in awhile.  Also it kinda sounded like she didn’t really “need” the other supplies, she just bought them so it wouldn’t seem like she was buying the Ivermectin for herself. Maybe that’s more evidence the story is fake, I don’t own a horse so I’m not sure how often one needs to buy horse supplies.

I’m not saying I think the story is definitely true, but it’s possible.     Honestly though I’m surprised the horse version has become the most popular to talk about, since not that many people have horses.  It’s a common dog heartworm pill too.  Maybe because you still need a vet prescription for that, but pretty much anyone with a dog can get it.

[TimHauck 2,906]

On 9/5/2021 at 8:26 PM, Cdub100 said:

No

You don’t think India’s covid deaths are undercounted?

[Cdub100 3,929]

Just now, TimHauck said:

You don’t think India’s covid deaths are undercounted?

No

[TimHauck 2,906]

1 minute ago, Cdub100 said:

No

Lol

[Reality 3,121]

Thread, Fauci exposed. 

 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

9 minutes ago, Reality said:

Thread, Fauci exposed. 

 

It is another example of righties being right.  

It is another example of that great quote.  

Whats the difference between a conservative conspiracy and the truth?  6 months.  

[TimmySmith 2,782]

56 minutes ago, Reality said:

Thread, Fauci exposed. 

 

To quote one of the top liberal leaders of our time, "What difference, at this point, does it make"? 

[Cdub100 3,929]

24 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

To quote one of the top liberal leaders of our time, "What difference, at this point, does it make"? 

"That was four days ago, five days." - Biden

[lod001 1,344]

We need Rand Paul to really go after fraudci.

[lod001 1,344]

I don't think they can bribe everyone.

https://wildsage.us/index.php/2021/09/06/india-charges-who-scientist-soumya-swaminathan-for-mass-murder-the-beginning-of-accountability/

[jerryskids 6,827]

2 hours ago, Reality said:

Thread, Fauci exposed. 

 

I can’t say I’m surprised.  I can’t even say I object, as there are significant benefits as well as risks to such research, and I’m not expert enough to make that call.  But it is yet another example of the government being Machiavellian with their lies to us.  Also if we are going to fund such research, I’d rather we do it where we control things, not do it through that slipshod lab in Wuhan.  By the way, if this is confirmed, it takes some wind out of the sails of “make China pay$#@!”   

[TimmySmith 2,782]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

I can’t say I’m surprised.  I can’t even say I object, as there are significant benefits as well as risks to such research, and I’m not expert enough to make that call.  But it is yet another example of the government being Machiavellian with their lies to us.  Also if we are going to fund such research, I’d rather we do it where we control things, not do it through that slipshod lab in Wuhan.  By the way, if this is confirmed, it takes some wind out of the sails of “make China pay$#@!”   

I think we all agree on the following:

1. Wuhan is the SARS capital of the world, so that is where the lab is.

2. We funded a grant for some research within that lab.

3. There was other research going on there as well.

That is pretty much all Fauci is willing to admit to. Isn't it ridiculous after 2 years, it's still all we know for certain.  Even the scientific community can't agree beyond that. 

 

 

[lod001 1,344]

I assume we all know why we are doing this in China, right? It's because of what just happened. Any leak can be blamed on china and as we see, nothing will be done about it. 

They can't perform this insanity in a lab in the USA.

So when a rea global killer, (not this weak virus) is unleashed,  even when it comes from china, nothing will be done about it.

[TimHauck 2,906]

36 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

I think we all agree on the following:

1. Wuhan is the SARS capital of the world, so that is where the lab is.

2. We funded a grant for some research within that lab.

3. There was other research going on there as well.

That is pretty much all Fauci is willing to admit to. Isn't it ridiculous after 2 years, it's still all we know for certain.  Even the scientific community can't agree beyond that. 

 

 

Agree

[lod001 1,344]

So there are 2 docs in the next town up with an IVM/HCQ/vitamin cocktail. $150 infusion.

Dude goes there with covid. Can barely walk. Wearing a mask. The doc says you don't need the mask. Sat him down, gave him the IV, he walked right out and was out mowing his yard the next day. True story.

These docs said that no one should be dying from this. 

I'm wondering if its the same cocktail Dr. Brian Tyson, in CA, has been using. Seems like the same results. HIS STORY: 

https://www.thedesertreview.com/news/doctors-story-of-light-and-life-the-covid-darkness-overcome-part-viii-chapter-2/article_0ad07982-faf5-11eb-8a92-07429a756e32.html

[TimHauck 2,906]

On 8/30/2021 at 9:32 AM, Cdub100 said:

I'm not here at your beck and call.

Like all scientific studies, there isn't one best study to use. So your question at the very start is stupid.

A very quick search brought me to this page that rolled up a bunch of studies. Maybe you can start there and cherry-pick whatever information you want to prove your side.

https://ivmmeta.com/#fig_fpp.

Results

Figure 3, 4, and 5 show results by treatment stage. Figure 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, and 13 show forest plots for a random effects meta-analysis of all studies with pooled effects, and for studies reporting mortality results, ICU admission, mechanical ventilation, hospitalization, recovery, COVID-19 cases, and viral clearance results only. Figure 14 shows results for peer reviewed trials only and Figure 15 shows results restricted to serious outcomes. Table 1 summarizes the results.

Treatment time	Number of studies reporting positive effects	Total number of studies	Percentage of studies reporting positive effects	Probability of an equal or greater percentage of positive results from an ineffective treatment	Random effects meta-analysis results
Early treatment	24	27	88.9%	1 in 41 thousand	72% improvement RR 0.28 [0.18‑0.45] p < 0.0001
Late treatment	20	22	90.9%	1 in 17 thousand	40% improvement RR 0.60 [0.48‑0.76] p < 0.0001
Prophylaxis	14	14	100%	1 in 16 thousand	86% improvement RR 0.14 [0.08‑0.25] p < 0.0001
All studies	58	63	92.1%	1 in 1 trillion	68% improvement RR 0.32 [0.25‑0.40] p < 0.0001

This cardiologist basically asked the same question.  Guess he's stupid too.  He's also not a "shill for the left" as he has questioned various things about the pandemic, and being a cardiologist, is concerned with the myocarditis risk to the young of the vaccines.

 

Since no one here was able to share a good example, these appear to be 2 of the leading responses he got (according to him).  He mentions 3 but not sure which the third one was.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bjd.19821 (I think I've seen this one before, may have been posted here at one point)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8101859/#!po=35.8333

I will read them a little later.

However the only reason I noticed this post was this tweet today:

 

 

[lod001 1,344]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

This cardiologist basically asked the same question.  Guess he's stupid too.  He's also not a "shill for the left" as he has questioned various things about the pandemic, and being a cardiologist, is concerned with the myocarditis risk to the young of the vaccines.

 

Since no one here was able to share a good example, these appear to be 2 of the leading responses he got (according to him).  He mentions 3 but not sure which the third one was.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bjd.19821 (I think I've seen this one before, may have been posted here at one point)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8101859/#!po=35.8333

I will read them a little later.

However the only reason I noticed this post was this tweet today:

 

 

 a clown that no one has ever heard of asks for studies and pisses and moans when no one responds....because no one knows he even exists. 

Reading his BS tweets, of course no one is going to respond to the quack. He's totally bias. 

[fandandy 3,313]

You dorks figure it out yet?

Is it safe for me to leave the house?

I"m covered up with an afghan but the way it was knitted leaves gaps.  Don't get me wrong, it's beautiful but am I safe hiding under this in the closet.

 

I'll hang up and listen...

[lod001 1,344]

1 minute ago, fandandy said:

You dorks figure it out yet?

Is it safe for me to leave the house?

I"m covered up with an afghan but the way it was knitted leaves gaps.  Don't get me wrong, it's beautiful but am I safe hiding under this in the closet.

 

I'll hang up and listen...

You're fine as long as you don't have the jab juice running thru your veins. If you got the sh1t, you are potentially a ticking timebomb.

[TimHauck 2,906]

24 minutes ago, lod001 said:

 a clown that no one has ever heard of asks for studies and pisses and moans when no one responds....because no one knows he even exists. 

Reading his BS tweets, of course no one is going to respond to the quack. He's totally bias. 

Huh?

He does have 10k followers (not that that means anything in terms of his skill as a doctor), but he does have a slight following.

And people did respond.  He just pointed out what was wrong with most of the replies.   The few decent ones he said as much.

I don't know everything he's said, but again, he's been skeptical of several of the "narratives."   Heck his pinned tweet is making fun of Topol.

Another example - 

 

Or is this tweet wrong since he's a quack?

[lod001 1,344]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Huh?

He does have 10k followers (not that that means anything in terms of his skill as a doctor), but he does have a slight following.

And people did respond.  He just pointed out what was wrong with most of the replies.   The few decent ones he said as much.

I don't know everything he's said, but again, he's been skeptical of several of the "narratives."   Heck his pinned tweet is making fun of Topol.

Another example - 

 

Or is this tweet wrong since he's a quack?

I was going by his 'ivermectin does not work' tweet which is now gone. Maybe he will grow a brain and figure it out.

Dr. Pierre Kory would set this guy straight if he really wanted the answer. He either knows that or is way too dumb to research it.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

3 minutes ago, lod001 said:

I was going by his 'ivermectin does not work' tweet which is now gone. Maybe he will grow a brain and figure it out.

Dr. Pierre Kory would set this guy straight if he really wanted the answer. He either knows that or is way too dumb to research it.

A major side effect of Ivermectin is it makes libs heads explode.

[Cdub100 3,929]

[lod001 1,344]

You asked for this Tim. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/

https://search.nih.gov/search?utf8=✓&affiliate=nih&query=ivermectin&commit=Search

Not sure why I bother since i know you won't agree. You will did and did and dig for even one word in the study to cling to your hopes that you will be right about Ivermectin.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360]

 

[posty 2,705]

Oh boy...

Biden to address pandemic-weary nation

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-to-address-pandemic-weary-nation-172846459.html

WASHINGTON — President Biden will address the nation on Thursday, the White House said, laying out a "six-pronged strategy" to combat the coronavirus pandemic throughout the fall. The speech will likely mark a stark departure from the upbeat announcements of last spring, as vaccination rates rose and infection rates declined.

The Delta variant frustrated President Biden's plans for a "summer of freedom." With cold weather approaching and children returning to school, he faces a challenge in telling Americans that the end is still in sight— but that he, and they, must do more to bring the pandemic to its conclusion.

Americans' confidence in Biden's handling of the pandemic is waning. A new poll from Gallup found that only 40 percent of Americans say the president is communicating clearly on the pandemic; 42 percent say he lacks clarity. "This is the first time Americans have not been more positive than negative about his communication, as a presidential candidate or president-elect in 2020 or as president this year," Gallup senior editor Jeffrey M. Jones wrote of those results on Tuesday.

A senior administration official disputed that the president was frustrated by the trajectory of the pandemic. Biden is "focused on getting more people vaccinated and putting an end to this virus," the official said.

Thursday's speech will be almost exactly six months since the president put the nation on a "war footing" against the coronavirus. "We're making some real progress now," he said during that address, delivered during the primetime hour from the East Room of the White House.

Since that day, 142 million Americans have been fully vaccinated, a monumental achievement by any measure. But that figure accounts for only slightly more than half of the nation's entire population — 53 percent — which has given the Delta variant plenty of opportunity to spread. Vaccinations are rising again, to an average of about 950,000 per day, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. But deaths from COVID-19 have been rising, too, to more than 1,300 per day. By contrast, deaths had fallen to below 300 per day in mid-June.

"His administration will pull every lever to get the pandemic under control," the White House said in a statement. He will not, however, issue a national vaccine mandate. Speaking to reporters travelling with the president aboard Air Force One, White House press secretary Jen Psaki said that the federal government does not have the authority to issue such a rule.

Absent such a dramatic move, the president will have to resort to piecemeal measures that both entice the unvaccinated and make life increasingly uncomfortable for them. In July, French president Emmanuel Macron made vaccination mandatory for dining and travel, as well as for health care workers in France.

The White House would not say what the new initiatives announced on Thursday will be, only that they would reach "across the public and private sectors." The president has frequently touted vaccine requirements issued in recent months by private corporations. And he has issued focused mandates, including for employees of the federal government and nursing home workers.

Another contentious issue Biden will need to address is that of booster shots for recipients of the two-dose mRNA vaccines manufactured by Pfizer and Moderna. Data from Israel showed declining protection from the Pfizer vaccine against the Delta variant. Regulators in the United States are divided about whether to administer booster shots, and when.

Psaki told reporters that the administration would take "advice and counsel" from the Food and Drug Administration and the CDC, even as public health officials in the U.S. closely watch how the pandemic progresses in Israel, which has a high vaccination rate and a robust scientific establishment that collaborates frequently with American researchers and institutions.

"We'll base it on our own health advisers," Psaki said.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

27 minutes ago, lod001 said:

You asked for this Tim. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/

https://search.nih.gov/search?utf8=✓&affiliate=nih&query=ivermectin&commit=Search

Not sure why I bother since i know you won't agree. You will did and did and dig for even one word in the study to cling to your hopes that you will be right about Ivermectin.

You are going to force "lyin' tim" to make an appearance.