Coronavirus - Doomsday

[TimHauck 2,931]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yet you still won’t answer why they were doing it. You come here and tout the narrative from the government and “science” all the time, but hide from this. What you think isn’t answering the question, because it’s not the question. The question is why they did what they did, not what you think. 

Huh?  The government wasn't doing it, certain pharmacies were.   I don't know why, I wish they wouldn't have because that might have prevented people from getting scammed from groups like the FLCCC and AFLD who were charging ridiculous amounts just to prescribe it. 

Edit: And it's not like hardly anyone was getting it.  88k people got it during 1 week in August - https://www.wpr.org/insurers-have-spent-millions-ivermectin-which-hasnt-been-proven-yet-work-against-covid-19

[TimHauck 2,931]

38 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Nice try. The vaccine had zero to do with herd immunity. Zero. It did aid some in recovery. And that is a win that you should just grab and run with.

Well technically we probably still don't have herd immunity, as prior infection didn't help all that much against Omicron either.   And since most people seem to agree that covid will come back seasonally, it seems the assumption is that people are going to get infected multiple times over their lifetime.   But yes, both prior infection and vaccine immunity will help make sure that those infections don't turn deadly as often as they did in 2020 and 2021.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Huh?  The government wasn't doing it, certain pharmacies were.   I don't know why, I wish they wouldn't have because that might have prevented people from getting scammed from groups like the FLCCC and AFLD who were charging ridiculous amounts just to prescribe it. 

The government was saying they don’t work. Why? Had they done a study? When? Yet people were willing to take them and they are safe. Why say they don’t work? 

[TimHauck 2,931]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The government was saying they don’t work. Why? Had they done a study? When? Yet people were willing to take them and they are safe. Why say they don’t work? 

The company that makes it said it didn't work.

[TimHauck 2,931]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The government was saying they don’t work. Why? Had they done a study? When? Yet people were willing to take them and they are safe. Why say they don’t work? 

What do you mean they?  If you're also referring to HCQ, that was proven to not work via a large study.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Well technically we probably still don't have herd immunity, as prior infection didn't help all that much against Omicron either.  

   By sheer luck it ended right after everyone got Omicron. All it took was an unavoidable strain.  Earlier strains would have done it if we handled it right.

[TimHauck 2,931]

11 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

   By sheer luck it ended right after everyone got Omicron. All it took was an unavoidable strain.  Earlier strains would have done it if we handled it right.

But most people seem to think "it" hasn't actually ended.  Unless by "it" you mean the significant increase in deaths from it, then hopefully yes, but that would be due to both vaccine and natural immunity.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

But most people seem to think "it" hasn't actually ended.  Unless by "it" you mean the significant increase in deaths from it, then hopefully yes, but that would be due to both vaccine and natural immunity.

"It" didn't start with Covid 19. SARS has been around and will continue to be around. And you are continually banging the drum for the ways things went, whereas the rest of us know much of it was avoidable.  Way more failure than success in the way things went down. Best not to defend it.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

38 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

What do you mean they?  If you're also referring to HCQ, that was proven to not work via a large study.

GTFO. They said it didn’t work the moment Trump mentioned it. When was the study? 

[TimHauck 2,931]

42 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

"It" didn't start with Covid 19. SARS has been around and will continue to be around. And you are continually banging the drum for the ways things went, whereas the rest of us know much of it was avoidable.  Way more failure than success in the way things went down. Best not to defend it.

Do you mean unavoidable?  Yes, most people eventually getting infected was probably unavoidable, but the measures taken enabled many people to not get infected until after getting a vaccine or the milder Omicron.   Whether the economic and social impact of some of the measures taken was worth it is certainly debatable (and I never agreed with all of them), but they absolutely saved lives.

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Bill Barr said that trump AND mtg thought Herd Immunity was having people live with cattle (georgia, alabama, etc) so the cattle would become infected instead of the people. Lysol, anyone?

[TimHauck 2,931]

41 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

GTFO. They said it didn’t work the moment Trump mentioned it. When was the study? 

The Recovery trial out of the UK.

https://www.recoverytrial.net/results

No clinical benefit to HCQ.

Same trial found Dexamethasone, a cheap steroid (proof there isn't a conspiracy against cheap medicines to treat covid), did work (cut deaths by 1/3).

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

The Recovery trial out of the UK.

https://www.recoverytrial.net/results

No clinical benefit to HCQ.

Same trial found Dexamethasone, a cheap steroid (proof there isn't a conspiracy against cheap medicines to treat covid), did work (cut deaths by 1/3).

June of 2020? Please. 

[TimHauck 2,931]

10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

June of 2020? Please. 

Yup,, that's how long we've known that HCQ didn't work.  Yet idiots keep bringing it up.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yup,, that's how long we've known that HCQ didn't work.  Yet idiots keep bringing it up.

Trump brought up HQC in may 2020 . Damn they released that “study” fast. Come on. At some point do you maybe say things are always a bit too convenient? 

[TimHauck 2,931]

9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Trump brought up HQC in may 2020 . Damn they released that “study” fast. Come on. At some point do you maybe say things are always a bit too convenient? 

The study was from the UK.  Not everything is about Trump.  You have TDS.

[TimHauck 2,931]

And HCQ was added to the study on March 2nd.  Had Trump even acknowledged that covid existed by that point?

https://www.isrctn.com/ISRCTN50189673

[TimmySmith 2,782]

51 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

 Whether the economic and social impact of some of the measures taken was worth it is certainly debatable (and I never agreed with all of them), but they absolutely saved lives.

Impossible to know.  Without question we failed to immediately and properly handle high risk people.  it is entirely possible low risk could have carried on as normal the entire time and they would have eventually saved the high risk with their immunity and the vaccine.  Fear mongering took over and Fauci is solely to blame for that.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

And HCQ was added to the study on March 2nd.  Had Trump even acknowledged that covid existed by that point?

https://www.isrctn.com/ISRCTN50189673

I think he did. Your crew called him a racist. Remember? Yeah, January of 2020. Now say ooops. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,365]

6 hours ago, TimHauck said:

The Recovery trial out of the UK.

https://www.recoverytrial.net/results

No clinical benefit to HCQ.

Same trial found Dexamethasone, a cheap steroid (proof there isn't a conspiracy against cheap medicines to treat covid), did work (cut deaths by 1/3).

No clinical benefit to Tylenol either yet many people were recommended to take it

[shorepatrol 1,871]

7 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Well technically we probably still don't have herd immunity, as prior infection didn't help all that much against Omicron either.   And since most people seem to agree that covid will come back seasonally, it seems the assumption is that people are going to get infected multiple times over their lifetime.   But yes, both prior infection and vaccine immunity will help make sure that those infections don't turn deadly as often as they did in 2020 and 2021.

There is no vaccine immunity. You keep stating this like a focking moron. 

[TimHauck 2,931]

15 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I think he did. Your crew called him a racist. Remember? Yeah, January of 2020. Now say ooops. 

Oh yeah, that was right before he said it would disappear on multiple occasions.

[TimHauck 2,931]

10 hours ago, shorepatrol said:

There is no vaccine immunity. You keep stating this like a focking moron. 

Immunity as in protecting you from serious illness if you do get infected. Same thing previous infection provided against Omicron.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

36 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Oh yeah, that was right before he said it would disappear on multiple occasions.

It’s not what you say, it’s what you do. He kicked ass. Also, It has disappeared.  Where’s Fauci? And you didn’t say oops. 

[jerryskids 6,853]

20 hours ago, TimHauck said:

And HCQ was added to the study on March 2nd.  Had Trump even acknowledged that covid existed by that point?

https://www.isrctn.com/ISRCTN50189673

That study evaluated patients who were hospitalized with Covid; that is to say, already in pretty bad shape.  Is it possible HCQ is effective as a prophylactic and/or early onset?  That's what I think I recall as the assertion, although admittedly this stuff is all jumbled in my brain at this point. 

[Baker Boy 1,704]

7 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Immunity as in protecting you from serious illness if you do get infected. Same thing previous infection provided against Omicron.

immunity

[iˈmyo͞onədē]

 

NOUN

1. the ability of an organism to resist a particular infection or toxin by the action of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells.

   
    

    

   but people who have received the “vaccine’ have died from Covid where is the immunity.

[BudBro 183]

8 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Immunity as in protecting you from serious illness if you do get infected. Same thing previous infection provided against Omicron.

The "jabs" aren't vaccines and never provided any immunity.  In the original subterfuge regarding the advertising push to get everyone poisoned, they were touted to be vaccines.  Those who took the jabs still acquired the various strains of the virus, just expressed lesser symptoms, allowing them to become spreaders by not staying home.  The definition of "vaccine" had to be amended to help the subterfuge continue, as you have done here.  You are intentionally trying to deceive others.

[vomit 502]

5 minutes ago, BudBro said:

The "jabs" aren't vaccines and never provided any immunity.  In the original subterfuge regarding the advertising push to get everyone poisoned, they were touted to be vaccines.  Those who took the jabs still acquired the various strains of the virus, just expressed lesser symptoms, allowing them to become spreaders by not staying home.  The definition of "vaccine" had to be amended to help the subterfuge continue, as you have done here.  You are intentionally trying to deceive others.

If this jagoff is serious, it is scary that there are people out there spewing this sh!t

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

36 minutes ago, vomit said:

If this jagoff is serious, it is scary that there are people out there spewing this sh!t

Easy Hank. Hank the angry dwarf! Was there a drunken in there too, or was it just angry? 

[TimHauck 2,931]

55 minutes ago, BudBro said:

The "jabs" aren't vaccines and never provided any immunity.  In the original subterfuge regarding the advertising push to get everyone poisoned, they were touted to be vaccines.  Those who took the jabs still acquired the various strains of the virus, just expressed lesser symptoms, allowing them to become spreaders by not staying home.  The definition of "vaccine" had to be amended to help the subterfuge continue, as you have done here.  You are intentionally trying to deceive others.

The vaccines were still 60-80% effective against infection even of Delta.

Thank you for admitting that the vaccines worked at lessening symptoms though.

You realize prior infection didn't provide true "immunity" against Omicron either, right?

[Reality 3,121]

Get ready for these stories to trickle out.

We'll never get the real stats but, if they are saying it at all you can only imagine how off it really was.

No surprise.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

The stats are bullshit. Have been from jump. I told you so. 

[Gepetto 1,374]

Biden requiring masks on airplanes, at airports, on trains and transit hubs for another month.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-extend-airplane-transit-mask-mandate-through-april-18-official-2022-03-10/

[Utilit99 4,099]

13 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

Biden requiring masks on airplanes, at airports, on trains and transit hubs for another month.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-extend-airplane-transit-mask-mandate-through-april-18-official-2022-03-10/

Yeah. Because it will be gone in 30 days. But not yet. We are dealing with science here.

[TimHauck 2,931]

1 hour ago, Reality said:

Get ready for these stories to trickle out.

We'll never get the real stats but, if they are saying it at all you can only imagine how off it really was.

No surprise.

CDC has always tracked “with Covid” deaths, and I’m sure that’s all this article is referring to (not 100% sure since paywalled).  Same as the old stories like in Colorado with the murder victims, etc.

But CDC also tracks deaths where Covid was the underlying cause.  90% of “with Covid” deaths had Covid as the underlying cause.

Deaths where Covid was the underlying cause were not overcounted.  If anything they were undercounted, especially early on but even if you look at deaths by week and cause during the Delta wave, they were most likely undercounted then too (it wasn’t from the vaccines, Casual Observer).

 

[Cdub100 3,936]

59 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

Biden requiring masks on airplanes, at airports, on trains and transit hubs for another month.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-extend-airplane-transit-mask-mandate-through-april-18-official-2022-03-10/

Fock quit with this sh1t

[Casual Observer 597]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

CDC has always tracked “with Covid” deaths, and I’m sure that’s all this article is referring to (not 100% sure since paywalled).  Same as the old stories like in Colorado with the murder victims, etc.

But CDC also tracks deaths where Covid was the underlying cause.  90% of “with Covid” deaths had Covid as the underlying cause.

Deaths where Covid was the underlying cause were not overcounted.  If anything they were undercounted, especially early on but even if you look at deaths by week and cause during the Delta wave, they were most likely undercounted then too (it wasn’t from the vaccines, Casual Observer).

 

Boy, there sure were a lot of "Covid" deaths in the last quarter of 2021 and the first couple of months of this year for a Covid strain as severe as the common cold and where vaxx manufacturers admitted non-efficacy against Omicron.  I wonder what could have caused all of these excess deaths?

[Gepetto 1,374]

Can they get us a vax for a hangnail?  And for paper cuts, please!

[Reality 3,121]

4 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The stats are bullshit. Have been from jump. I told you so. 

Yup, no doubt. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

19 minutes ago, Reality said:

Yup, no doubt. 

And when I say bullshit, I don’t mean inaccurate. I mean contrived bullshit. Also known as lies.