Alias Detective 1,179 Posted March 16, 2020 I felt he needed to be recognized on the first page. There aren’t any other President Trump threads on the first page. The first time in a long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,480 Posted March 16, 2020 Thank you, Mr President, for giving up your Billionaire lifestyle and making life better for American citizens! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted March 16, 2020 Trump 2020!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 905 Posted March 16, 2020 He really stinks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted March 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Herbivore said: He really stinks Maybe. I never smelled him. But, he's a great president. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted March 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, Herbivore said: He really stinks Most fat people do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, MDC said: Most fat people do. What weight of a woman do you call fat? 5’5” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted March 16, 2020 I have a bad feeling that the COVID-19 virus is going to be the end of Trump not being re-elected... I hope that I am wrong, but the longer this drags on, the closer we come to President Biden or President Sanders... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted March 16, 2020 26 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: What weight of a woman do you call fat? 5’5” Anything over 230 is out of the question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted March 16, 2020 Killing it. Granted, the last 2 were horrible so it wouldn't take much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,480 Posted March 16, 2020 31 minutes ago, posty said: I have a bad feeling that the COVID-19 virus is going to be the end of Trump not being re-elected... I hope that I am wrong, but the longer this drags on, the closer we come to President Biden or President Sanders... What is Trump doing wrong that any other President would do differently? I think he is kicking ass. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, lickin_starfish said: What is Trump doing wrong that any other President would do differently? I think he is kicking ass. His approval rating will go down because of how he started off with this virus handling and with a very eager MSM to pick at everything his approval rating will probably drop more and it is very tough to win re-election with approvals in the upper 30s and low 40s... Plus if the economy goes into the crapper because no one is working, even though it isn't his fault directly, he will get the blame... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted March 16, 2020 So now he is on TV saying how bad this virus is a month after saying it is no big deal Ugg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted March 16, 2020 Wow he just said the media has done a good and fair job He must be sick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted March 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, bandrus1 said: So now he is on TV saying how bad this virus is a month after saying it is no big deal He evolved... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted March 16, 2020 24 minutes ago, bandrus1 said: So now he is on TV saying how bad this virus is a month after saying it is no big deal Ugg Well, no one believes what he says anyway. Heck this morning he said everything was under control, then this afternoon he said we had to fix a very broken system. I just don't think he knows anything and tries to BS his way through it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,594 Posted March 16, 2020 47 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: What is Trump doing wrong that any other President would do differently? I think he is kicking ass. He still is not acting quick enough. All restaurants, bars, etc in the country need shut down today and he needs to fund all employees with emergency unemployment insurance. If he would have done this 2 weeks ago it would have been better, but today is still better than doing it tomorrow. He should have all of the information. He knows what all the European countries, etc are going through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted March 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said: He still is not acting quick enough. All restaurants, bars, etc in the country need shut down today and he needs to fund all employees with emergency unemployment insurance. If he would have done this 2 weeks ago it would have been better, but today is still better than doing it tomorrow. He should have all of the information. He knows what all the European countries, etc are going through. What is the etc.? I can go along with bars and restaurants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,594 Posted March 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: What is the etc.? I can go along with bars and restaurants. Beaches, casinos, movie theaters, other misc places that have many people that I am unable to think of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, MTSkiBum said: Beaches, casinos, movie theaters, other misc places that have many people that I am unable to think of. Places specifically designed to target large audiences. Ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,854 Posted April 9, 2020 @Strike I'll respond to your post here instead of clogging up the other thread more than I already have. "WTF would you have Trump do? Sell off all his businesses to be President? You aren't disqualified from being President simply because you're a successful businessman. Heck, we should be happy that someone with real world experience wants that position. If Jeff Bezos wants to be President does he have to sell Amazon?" I don't think there is anything Trump can do now. This is one of the biggest reasons I didn't want Trump as President and didn't think he should have ran. He has far too many conflicts of interest to be running our country and I don't think he can be trusted. I don't think Bezos should run for President either due to conflicts of interest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,975 Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: @Strike I'll respond to your post here instead of clogging up the other thread more than I already have. "WTF would you have Trump do? Sell off all his businesses to be President? You aren't disqualified from being President simply because you're a successful businessman. Heck, we should be happy that someone with real world experience wants that position. If Jeff Bezos wants to be President does he have to sell Amazon?" I don't think there is anything Trump can do now. This is one of the biggest reasons I didn't want Trump as President and didn't think he should have ran. He has far too many conflicts of interest to be running our country and I don't think he can be trusted. I don't think Bezos should run for President either due to conflicts of interest. So anyone successful should be precluded from running for President. Got it. Well, you should talk to your congresspeople about changing the constitution then. What do YOU propose the qualifications be for running for President? I look forward to the answer to this question lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,646 Posted April 9, 2020 Nancy Pelosi is the second richest person in all of Congress. Her conflicts don’t seem to bother Hawkeye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,286 Posted April 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: @Strike I'll respond to your post here instead of clogging up the other thread more than I already have. "WTF would you have Trump do? Sell off all his businesses to be President? You aren't disqualified from being President simply because you're a successful businessman. Heck, we should be happy that someone with real world experience wants that position. If Jeff Bezos wants to be President does he have to sell Amazon?" I don't think there is anything Trump can do now. This is one of the biggest reasons I didn't want Trump as President and didn't think he should have ran. He has far too many conflicts of interest to be running our country and I don't think he can be trusted. I don't think Bezos should run for President either due to conflicts of interest. Seriously. This is a weird take. So no one that owns a business can run for President. Oy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, supermike80 said: Seriously. This is a weird take. So no one that owns a business can run for President. Oy It's an absurd take on his part but, he only recently started paying attention to politics.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,975 Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, supermike80 said: Seriously. This is a weird take. So no one that owns a business can run for President. Oy When I was formulating my response I was thinking about posting something snarky about how we have a large homeless population so we have a large pool of Presidential candidates. Then it occurred to me that those people would have a conflict of interest just as much as Trump does. That's why I asked him what he would propose for Presidential qualifications. What I really want to know is who DOESN'T have a conflict of interest on some level? Everyone does, and all we can do is put in place rules to try to create a barrier between those conflicts of interest and the public office the person holds. And we've done that. And Trump is adhering to those rules. Which is why MDC looks like such an idiot on this topic. He literally thought Trump and his sons were running his businesses out of the WH. He's either got so much TDS that he ignored the illegality of that scenario or he's truly dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, supermike80 said: Seriously. This is a weird take. So no one that owns a business can run for President. Oy Poor Hawk. Doesn't realize the Soros' of world run the DNC. It's not a weird take, it's an absurdly naïve take. Ask him how the Clintons, and the Obama's are now worth 100's of millions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,854 Posted April 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Strike said: So anyone successful should be precluded from running for President. Got it. Well, you should talk to your congresspeople about changing the constitution then. What do YOU propose the qualifications be for running for President? I look forward to the answer to this question lol. That's not what I'm saying and I think you know that. I think it's important for anyone running for President to separate themselves from any conflicts of interest as best they can. I also think if there are any conflicts of interest that the President should be very open and transparent about them, especially internationally. This is a bit long but it has a lot of great info. https://harvardjol.com/2018/03/25/it-is-all-about-the-money-presidential-conflicts-of-interest/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,117 Posted April 9, 2020 On 3/16/2020 at 3:08 PM, MDC said: Anything over 230 is out of the question. A woman at 5'-5", obese would be anything over 180 lbs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,854 Posted April 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Nancy Pelosi is the second richest person in all of Congress. Her conflicts don’t seem to bother Hawkeye. I don't know what her conflicts of interest are, I'd have to look into that. Being rich does not equate to having conflicts of interest though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,854 Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, TimmySmith said: Poor Hawk. Doesn't realize the Soros' of world run the DNC. It's not a weird take, it's an absurdly naïve take. Ask him how the Clintons, and the Obama's are now worth 100's of millions. I really don't think you are understanding what I've been talking about at all. I'm not talking about people getting rich from being in the government. That can be a part of it but it's not exactly what I've been talking about. That's why I suggested that some should do research on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,854 Posted April 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, supermike80 said: Seriously. This is a weird take. So no one that owns a business can run for President. Oy No. That is not what I said at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,975 Posted April 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: That's not what I'm saying and I think you know that. I think it's important for anyone running for President to separate themselves from any conflicts of interest as best they can. I also think if there are any conflicts of interest that the President should be very open and transparent about them, especially internationally. This is a bit long but it has a lot of great info. https://harvardjol.com/2018/03/25/it-is-all-about-the-money-presidential-conflicts-of-interest/ I'm not reading that. It is an opinion piece written by someone who graduated law school in 2018. Plus, I know what conflict of interest is. If you have a specific point from that article you'd like to highlight, feel free to post it here. But I don't think you'll find many educated people in this country who would suggest we should prohibit Trump or Bezos from being President simply because they own businesses that might be impacted by their Presidential decisions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted April 9, 2020 There are a couple of options: - put businesses into a blind trust to help prevent obvious conflicts - provide disclosures like tax returns and trades similar to what Congress has to do. It won’t prevent conflicts of interest, but it can make it more transparent to taxpayers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,117 Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: No. That is not what I said at all. The issue with your stance though is, "where do you draw the line"? If Trump has conflicts of interest because of his businesses, but successful business people are allowed to be the president... where's the line? At what level of success exempts you from running for president? I asked a hard core liberal a similar question on Kavanaugh. His stance was that Kavanugh shouldn't be on the Supreme Court, but he should still be allowed to be a judge. I asked him at what level he could be a judge. At what point is an "accused" (with the only evidence proving his innocence), allowed to be a judge. To note, he never gave an answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,975 Posted April 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: That's not what I'm saying and I think you know that. I think it's important for anyone running for President to separate themselves from any conflicts of interest as best they can. I also think if there are any conflicts of interest that the President should be very open and transparent about them, especially internationally. This is a bit long but it has a lot of great info. https://harvardjol.com/2018/03/25/it-is-all-about-the-money-presidential-conflicts-of-interest/ To expand on my previous point about your article, this is from the "preamble" of the article where she defines the purpose of the article: Quote President Donald Trump was the first President in decades to refuse to remove notions of financial conflicts of interest. This is not a factual statement. Trump has stated, and there is no proof otherwise, that he has nothing to do with running his businesses while being President. His sons, who were already helping run them, are in charge of them while he is President. Absent proof that this is not the case that statement is her opinion and is actually wrong. Why would I trust anything else she writes if she starts off with a false premise? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,854 Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: There are a couple of options: - put businesses into a blind trust to help prevent obvious conflicts - provide disclosures like tax returns and trades similar to what Congress has to do. It won’t prevent conflicts of interest, but it can make it more transparent to taxpayers I don't think there is a way for there never to be a forms of conflicts of interest for anyone running for President and that's why I think it's important for there to be transparency. A lot of our government is held to strict regulations when it comes to this but our VP and President are not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,854 Posted April 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: The issue with your stance though is, "where do you draw the line"? If Trump has conflicts of interest because of his businesses, but successful business people are allowed to be the president... where's the line? At what level of success exempts you from running for president? I asked a hard core liberal a similar question on Kavanaugh. His stance was that Kavanugh shouldn't be on the Supreme Court, but he should still be allowed to be a judge. I asked him at what level he could be a judge. At what point is an "accused" (with the only evidence proving his innocence), allowed to be a judge. To note, he never gave an answer. That's a great question and I think it's one that we should all be asking. I think it's important that we make sure that our President is transparent as possible when it comes to any possible conflicts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,854 Posted April 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Strike said: To expand on my previous point about your article, this is from the "preamble" of the article where she defines the purpose of the article: This is not a factual statement. Trump has stated, and there is no proof otherwise, that he has nothing to do with running his businesses while being President. His sons, who were already helping run them, are in charge of them while he is President. Absent proof that this is not the case that statement is her opinion and is actually wrong. Why would I trust anything else she writes if she starts off with a false premise? Isn't the fact that his children run the business and are involved in his administration a conflict of interest itself? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
