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1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I don’t know enough to form an opinion on it yet. I didn’t know enough to to say for sure if Trump was guilty either. All I can do is wait and see what happens. 
 

If Obama is guilty then I’ll lose a lot of respect for him and hope he gets what he deserves. I have no loyalty to him. 

You are correct that people on both sides can be pretty set in their beliefs.  What always bugged me about Obama was that the MSM was so hell bent on making sure our first black president was viewed as successful, he got an 8-year hall pass.  And if you dared question his policies... racist words.

This Fast and Furious stuff was one of the best (worst?) examples.  It's very clear that we provided guns to bad guys who killed a lot of people including our good guys.  A lot of it went thru Arizona so we were keenly aware of it here.  Here's a link describing it from Forbes:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2011/09/28/fast-and-furious-just-might-be-president-obamas-watergate/#7abf6bd9752a

But meh, no big deal right?  I also found it interesting that if you google "fast and furious" you get nothing on the front page other than movie franchise info; you would think that with the Mexican news the real thing might be considered relevant. :dunno:

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3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

You are correct that people on both sides can be pretty set in their beliefs.  What always bugged me about Obama was that the MSM was so hell bent on making sure our first black president was viewed as successful, he got an 8-year hall pass.  And if you dared question his policies... racist words.

This Fast and Furious stuff was one of the best (worst?) examples.  It's very clear that we provided guns to bad guys who killed a lot of people including our good guys.  A lot of it went thru Arizona so we were keenly aware of it here.  Here's a link describing it from Forbes:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2011/09/28/fast-and-furious-just-might-be-president-obamas-watergate/#7abf6bd9752a

But meh, no big deal right?  I also found it interesting that if you google "fast and furious" you get nothing on the front page other than movie franchise info; you would think that with the Mexican news the real thing might be considered relevant. :dunno:

Thanks for the info. 

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14 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

If this thing actually goes down and Hussein gets charged, riversco may be right about his civil war prediction. I only say that because look at how much everyone freaked out over the Ahmaud BS and it was proven he was a criminal, there are now black Panthers with AR's all over that small town in Georgia. Imagine if Hussein actually does get charged, you better believe the Jihad squad and others will be tweeting call to actions to their NPC followers.

With Trump breaking laws constantly, and everyone who conspires with him getting off, if they create some nonsense reason to charge Obama, cities will burn to the ground. It will be the worst rioting in out country's history. Every major city will be a war zone. 

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3 minutes ago, The Observer said:

With Trump breaking laws constantly, and everyone who conspires with him getting off, if they create some nonsense reason to charge Obama, cities will burn to the ground. It will be the worst rioting in out country's history. Every major city will be a war zone. 

Create ? What if its proven ? You scumbags still going to flip out ? 

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3 minutes ago, drobeski said:

Create ? What if its proven ? You scumbags still going to flip out ? 

Proven-proven, or William Barr proven?

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5 minutes ago, drobeski said:

Create ? What if its proven ? You scumbags still going to flip out ? 

When Trump was being impeached, I never hoped he'd be removed from office. I was glad the facts came out and how bad or made him look to not let any witnesses testify, but I knew his removal would cause Charlottesville times 100.   You guys should all be hoping Barr doesn't play along with Trump's sham and decide to charge Obama with anything. It will not end well for your cities. 

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8 minutes ago, The Observer said:

When Trump was being impeached, I never hoped he'd be removed from office. I was glad the facts came out and how bad or made him look to not let any witnesses testify, but I knew his removal would cause Charlottesville times 100.   You guys should all be hoping Barr doesn't play along with Trump's sham and decide to charge Obama with anything. It will not end well for your cities. 

You didn't answer 

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14 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Proven-proven, or William Barr proven?

proven, documents and testimony 

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9 minutes ago, The Observer said:

When Trump was being impeached, I never hoped he'd be removed from office. I was glad the facts came out and how bad or made him look to not let any witnesses testify, but I knew his removal would cause Charlottesville times 100.   You guys should all be hoping Barr doesn't play along with Trump's sham and decide to charge Obama with anything. It will not end well for your cities. 

Lift some more weights 

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3 minutes ago, drobeski said:

proven, documents and testimony 

The Barr legal system has become so shady and biased that it better be so rock solid that it couldn't possibly be questioned.  Like Obama would pretty much have to confess 

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15 minutes ago, The Observer said:

When Trump was being impeached, I never hoped he'd be removed from office. I was glad the facts came out and how bad or made him look to not let any witnesses testify, but I knew his removal would cause Charlottesville times 100.   You guys should all be hoping Barr doesn't play along with Trump's sham and decide to charge Obama with anything. It will not end well for your cities. 

Trying to set aside the tough guy bravado for a second, are you admitting that groups like Antifa are violent?  And that they will attack our cities if Obama is accused of crimes?  I mean, it seems so, I just want to make sure I understand.  :cheers:

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2 minutes ago, The Observer said:

The Barr legal system has become so shady and biased that it better be so rock solid that it couldn't possibly be questioned.  Like Obama would pretty much have to confess 

You have no clue

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3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Trying to set aside the tough guy bravado for a second, are you admitting that groups like Antifa are violent?  And that they will attack our cities if Obama is accused of crimes?  I mean, it seems so, I just want to make sure I understand.  :cheers:

No. This wouldn't be about a group trying to combat white supremacists. This will be more inner city rioting. 

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Trump is real tough on Twitter. When asked about it today, he didn't have the courage or the coherence to tell the public what the hell he was talking about. His audience is the red hats that attend his rallies. Even he's embarrassed to make up lies in front of the other 65%

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3 minutes ago, The Observer said:

No. This wouldn't be about a group trying to combat white supremacists. This will be more inner city rioting. 

Yeah, that's what Antifa is about, combating white supremacists.  :lol:

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6 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Yeah, that's what Antifa is about, combating white supremacists.  :lol:

Anti fascist. It's exactly what it's about. Be smarter. 

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16 minutes ago, The Observer said:

No. This wouldn't be about a group trying to combat white supremacists. This will be more inner city rioting. 

You mean like the all the white supremicist righties with ODS violently rioted for 8 years under Obummer?  Oh wait, nevermind. Your post says ALOT about your side.

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27 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Anti fascist. It's exactly what it's about. Be smarter. 

See there you go again. Trolling? Or serious?  If serious, my god you are Sho Nuff dumb. 

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1 hour ago, drobeski said:

You didn't answer 

Thank you for quoting Newbie so I can see that stupid post...

He never wanted Trump impeached but he wanted him assassinated...

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7 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Antifa ANTI FAscist Antifa. 

Please tell me you're not just now learning this 

for you Posty, he truly thinks ANTIFA is anti-fascist

and he will also tell you NAZI's arent socialist 

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4 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Antifa ANTI FAscist Antifa. 

Please tell me you're not just now learning this 

Lol Go check out their flag and compare it to the 1933 German communist party flag. You are one dumb MFer. 

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7 minutes ago, posty said:

Thank you for quoting Newbie so I can see that stupid post...

He never wanted Trump impeached but he wanted him assassinated...

Stop pretending you have me on ignore. Not a single person believes that. No one. 

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40 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Antifa ANTI FAscist Antifa. 

Please tell me you're not just now learning this 

I like our chances.

 

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38 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

for you Posty, he truly thinks ANTIFA is anti-fascist

and he will also tell you NAZI's arent socialist 

Did you all know Nazi's were socialists?!?! Thats right 👍🏿👍🏽👍🏻 checkmate Democrats 😈😈♟️

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52 minutes ago, posty said:

Thank you for quoting Newbie so I can see that stupid post...

He never wanted Trump impeached but he wanted him assassinated...

Yeah, scumbag 

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So, we are going to find out who unmasked Flynn (it’s Yates, book it), but then that should lead us to who leaked the unmasking, which is a felony. Now, considering that the Obamabots, when under oath, would not say they saw evidence of Russian collusion, that says a lot about their fortitude. They didn’t want to risk a perjury rap. Someone is rolling over.  They know the penalty for lying to the FBI. I’d put my money on Sally. 

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2 hours ago, The Observer said:

Anti fascist. It's exactly what it's about. Be smarter. 

:lol:

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1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So, we are going to find out who unmasked Flynn (it’s Yates, book it), but then that should lead us to who leaked the unmasking, which is a felony. Now, considering that the Obamabots, when under oath, would not say they saw evidence of Russian collusion, that says a lot about their fortitude. They didn’t want to risk a perjury rap. Someone is rolling over.  They know the penalty for lying to the FBI. I’d put my money on Sally. 

It’s happening. Watch Newbie flip and flail. 

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2 minutes ago, 12th Man said:

It’s happening. Watch Newbie flip and flail. 

He already quit this .  Besides, he can’t keep up. Incapable. 

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1 hour ago, iam90sbaby said:

I like our chances.

 

Newbie is the little bltch slapping the stick at the guy right before he gets punched in the face. :lol:

Of course, not on the internet. Cause Newbie is really tough on the internet. It you don't believe it, just ask him.

 

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10 hours ago, The Observer said:

Antifa ANTI FAscist Antifa. 

Please tell me you're not just now learning this 

No one cares what the name is supposed to stand for.  They are a radical leftist cult.

Or are you so stupid that if Stalin had renamed the communist party the Peace and Love party, you would automatically assume they stood for peace and love?

Are you stupid or trolling?

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16 minutes ago, riversco said:

No one cares what the name is supposed to stand for.  They are a radical leftist cult.

Or are you so stupid that if Stalin had renamed the communist party the Peace and Love party, you would automatically assume they stood for peace and love?

Are you stupid or trolling?

There are times I swear he is trolling but then he channels his inner Sho Nuff. Nope. He’s that dumb. 

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21 minutes ago, riversco said:

No one cares what the name is supposed to stand for.  They are a radical leftist cult.

Or are you so stupid that if Stalin had renamed the communist party the Peace and Love party, you would automatically assume they stood for peace and love?

Are you stupid or trolling?

Jerry decided to turn this into an Antifa thread. I made the comment that if Trump/Barr fabricate some reason to charge Obama with a crime, we will see rioting like this country has never seen before. It'll make the Rodney King riots like like a church bake sale.

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5 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Jerry decided to turn this into an Antifa thread. I made the comment that if Trump/Barr fabricate some reason to charge Obama with a crime, we will see rioting like this country has never seen before. It'll make the Rodney King riots like like a church bake sale.

The only fabricating was done by Hussein. 

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It is unlikely Obama will be ever held accountable for his misdeeds, just like any other president.  But he also has the additional shield of his ethnicity. I doubt any underling would ever allow him to take the hit for his actions.

I am willing to settle for the underlings, that is where the focus should be.  My expectation is that the politician will be dirty and corrupt, and my further expectation is that the system and the people running it will shield us from that politician. It is becoming ever more clear that they were complicit with that dirty politician...and that needs to be fixed.  We will never fix politics, but we need systems in place that protect us, and I think we do.....but the people who should have stood up for us instead sucked Obama's d!ck....

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12 hours ago, The Observer said:

Stop pretending you have me on ignore. Not a single person believes that. No one. 

We ALL have you on ignore and we ALL believe that :D 

 

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2 minutes ago, Big Guy said:

We ALL have you on ignore and we ALL believe that :D 

 

"You have chosen to ignore Big Guy. His ridiculousness will no longer damage your pupils" 

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2 hours ago, RLLD said:

but the people who should have stood up for us instead sucked Obama's d!ck

I agree with this and it's a major problem with politics and people who support politicians.  It happens with every President that I've seen.

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12 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I agree with this and it's a major problem with politics and people who support politicians.  It happens with every President that I've seen.

Really? The media protects every president? Interesting.  

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