IGotWorms 3,321 Posted August 15, 2020 How come there’s literally no defense anymore?? Is it rule changes or what? People just quit playing D? I’m trying to get back into it but literally every time down the court these guys are just scoring at will. Where’s the battle? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,900 Posted August 15, 2020 Analytics. Teams realized that shooting 3s is far more efficient than the long 2. That and everything is a foul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,321 Posted August 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, MDC said: Analytics. Teams realized that shooting 3s is far more efficient than the long 2. That and everything is a foul. Well sh1t, they oughta make it a 2.5 then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,737 Posted August 15, 2020 24 minutes ago, MDC said: Analytics. Teams realized that shooting 3s is far more efficient than the long 2. That and everything is a foul. Not arguing any of that. I'ts sh!t to watch though. Nothing but 3 pointers launched. I really miss 90's basketball. Except for the knicks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,684 Posted August 15, 2020 Ratings way down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted August 15, 2020 Following the college model..Plus the lead guy in the league sets the tone. Michael was an angry, fearless, dangerous competitor. Lebron is a woke, brand conscious, businessman. Just look at the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12th Man 884 Posted August 15, 2020 Go woke go broke. Haven’t watched that sad sack league in years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 1,602 Posted August 15, 2020 It doesn't take much math to see shooting 40 percent for 3's is more productive than shooting 50 percent for 2's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,684 Posted August 15, 2020 They still have China. For now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,321 Posted August 15, 2020 It’s not political, d0uches Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,321 Posted August 15, 2020 58 minutes ago, jonmx said: It doesn't take much math to see shooting 40 percent for 3's is more productive than shooting 50 percent for 2's. Okay so I’m serious, make it 2.5. If game ends with .5 pt differential you round to a tie (so, overtime). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,684 Posted August 15, 2020 Just now, IGotWorms said: It’s not political, d0uches It’s not? They are walking billboards for politics now. It’s written on the court. Take it up with them, doosh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,321 Posted August 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: It’s not? They are walking billboards for politics now. It’s written on the court. Take it up with them, doosh. I’m asking about the game, not whether your wittle feewings have been hurt 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,684 Posted August 15, 2020 Just now, IGotWorms said: I’m asking about the game, not whether your wittle feewings have been hurt My feelings are fine. I’ve been boycotting this stupid game for about twenty years now. You gotta be a complete idiot to keep watching this product. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted August 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: It’s not political, d0uches Your naivete never ceases to amaze. The people that run the game are allowed to run the game the way they want because not allowing them to do so is infringing upon their rights. The men who used to run it only knew how to create a product for the masses, but they weren't woke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,900 Posted August 15, 2020 18 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: It’s not political, d0uches Everything is political to this crowd. Most Geeks are “that guy” in every office and at every Thanksgiving table. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 360 Posted August 15, 2020 12 hours ago, IGotWorms said: How come there’s literally no defense anymore?? Is it rule changes or what? People just quit playing D? I’m trying to get back into it but literally every time down the court these guys are just scoring at will. Where’s the battle? Your questions are fair- the game has changed. There is no defense and it’s basically a look at me shooting fest. For many, the NBA is not enjoyable to watch. Couple that with the league making it political- And it’s even more unwatchable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,065 Posted August 15, 2020 11 hours ago, shorepatrol said: Not arguing any of that. I'ts sh!t to watch though. Nothing but 3 pointers launched. I really miss 90's basketball. Except for the knicks. same thing in baseball....strikeout or homerun...everyone swinging for fences. I cant stand it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,321 Posted August 15, 2020 12 hours ago, shorepatrol said: Not arguing any of that. I'ts sh!t to watch though. Nothing but 3 pointers launched. I really miss 90's basketball. Except for the knicks. 90s was definitely the heyday. Was decent up until the Celtics super team iteration, sharp downhill turn from there (not saying that’s why, though the super team thing did not help at all). And I loved the Knicks. Mostly just because I desperately wanted someone to beat the Bulls. Knicks, Pacers, Cavs...whoever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,684 Posted August 15, 2020 1 hour ago, MDC said: Everything is political to this crowd. Most Geeks are “that guy” in every office and at every Thanksgiving table. Does “that guy” make your cry at Thanksgiving? Does your mascara run? Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 1,602 Posted August 15, 2020 1 hour ago, IGotWorms said: It’s not political, d0uches - defunding police - demanding reparations - terrorizing cities with violence if so-called justice is not provided - demanding looters be let go. There is a ton of politics involved. If BLM were about equality and fair treatment, i woukd be 100 percent behind them. I fail to see that message being articulated. They want equal outcomes not based on ability or work, but based on what they want. It is classic commumism and very political. The only difference is their rhetoric is based on skin color and not class. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,128 Posted August 15, 2020 I wish they'd gtfo of Orlando Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,321 Posted August 15, 2020 2 hours ago, jonmx said: - defunding police - demanding reparations - terrorizing cities with violence if so-called justice is not provided - demanding looters be let go. There is a ton of politics involved. If BLM were about equality and fair treatment, i woukd be 100 percent behind them. I fail to see that message being articulated. They want equal outcomes not based on ability or work, but based on what they want. It is classic commumism and very political. The only difference is their rhetoric is based on skin color and not class. The question had to do with the game of basketball. So quit cryin’ into your Natty Ice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 1,602 Posted August 15, 2020 2 hours ago, IGotWorms said: The question had to do with the game of basketball. So quit cryin’ into your Natty Ice Pointing out just how stupidly wrong you are <<< >>> Cryin' ............HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,127 Posted August 16, 2020 The game started to suck in the mid '00's. Then LeDumb James, Wade, and Bosh, made that "super team", and the NBA started to lose me. After LeDumb trashed the cops in Ferguson, I left. Never been back since. I literally have not watched a second of basketball in what, 6 years or so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Blue 06 195 Posted August 16, 2020 If I didn’t gamble, I’d skip the nba. Just not that interested. However, they have made me a ton of money so I love the sport. Weird how that works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted August 16, 2020 On 8/15/2020 at 6:30 AM, jonmx said: It doesn't take much math to see shooting 40 percent for 3's is more productive than shooting 50 percent for 2's. To be specific, what happened is that 2-point shooting percentage dropped while 3-point shooting percentage rose by a lot. We reached a point where some teams have a high enough 3-point shooting percentage to focus on shooting threes. http://www.besttickets.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/3-Percents.png http://www.besttickets.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/2-Percents.png Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted August 16, 2020 On 8/14/2020 at 9:35 PM, IGotWorms said: How come there’s literally no defense anymore?? Is it rule changes or what? People just quit playing D? I’m trying to get back into it but literally every time down the court these guys are just scoring at will. Where’s the battle? You're just now realizing this? It's nothing these days for both teams to score over 120 points. The fans have accepted that an important part of the game is no longer important to them. Idk what has happened to society in general. More scoring in every league until defense doesn't matter. Do white people care about defense more, so that when less white people started watching the sport was given a green light to shift? That and most of the league has zero shot at ever winning a championship. At least in football all it takes is hiring the right people to put in management Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,065 Posted August 16, 2020 i will watch curling and world championships of cornhole before watching 10 seconds of NBA. Sad thing growing up I loved it..magic..bird...jordan..that jordan special really took me back. I couldnt care any less about the nba now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,994 Posted August 16, 2020 21 hours ago, jonmx said: Pointing out just how stupidly wrong you are <<< >>> Cryin' ............HTH Jon, Meet Sho Nuff's brother from another mother. Engage with him at your own risk. RIsk of banging your head against a wall at his stupidity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,994 Posted August 16, 2020 On 8/15/2020 at 8:53 AM, Old School said: Your questions are fair- the game has changed. There is no defense and it’s basically a look at me shooting fest. For many, the NBA is not enjoyable to watch. Couple that with the league making it political- And it’s even more unwatchable. This is about where I'm at. I've been slowly losing interest in the game over the last 10 years due to the rule and style changes of the game. Now that they've gone completely woke I think I"m pretty much done with it. I bet on a Nuggets game the other day so watched it. It was very competitive through the third quarter. Was essentially tied going in to the fourth. I was getting ready for an exciting finish and hoping to win my bet. But the head coach of the Nuggets opted to sit all his starters. He conceded the game. Fock that. Pop started that but it's becoming more and more prevalent, and even Pop doesn't sit his players in the middle of a winnable game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 174 Posted August 16, 2020 Haven't watched a game since they broke off play in March. Don't want politics mixed in with my sports. They are free to be political if they choose but they'll do it without me. Honestly I haven't missed it so it's not even so much I'm consciously trying to make a statement, it was just such a turn off I don't care anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted August 17, 2020 The NBA and MLB product just isnt good enough to warrant watching and caring about what feels like exhibition games. You call tell the players aren't really into it without the fans. If you follow international Soccer its the same. We'll see about the NFL, but I suspect the quality will be down also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,321 Posted August 17, 2020 I might shift my interest entirely to hockey. Been enjoying that so far Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,578 Posted August 17, 2020 I keep seeing NBA and wanting to check it out because it is sports and then I remember they hate white people Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted August 17, 2020 21 hours ago, Strike said: This is about where I'm at. I've been slowly losing interest in the game over the last 10 years due to the rule and style changes of the game. Now that they've gone completely woke I think I"m pretty much done with it. I bet on a Nuggets game the other day so watched it. It was very competitive through the third quarter. Was essentially tied going in to the fourth. I was getting ready for an exciting finish and hoping to win my bet. But the head coach of the Nuggets opted to sit all his starters. He conceded the game. Fock that. Pop started that but it's becoming more and more prevalent, and even Pop doesn't sit his players in the middle of a winnable game. Thats another thing. They don't play nearly as hard in the regular season so that they can milk the NBA for a few more years of pay. How can anyone support that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites