Hawkeye21 1,858 Posted October 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Surprise that Hawkeye doesn’t like displays of American might. Even though he lives under its protection and would be eaten alive without it. Why do you make crap like this up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,858 Posted October 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, FlyinHeadlock said: Without a draft the main recruiting tools of the military are sports and movies. I can't tell you how many fighter pilots I talked to who either joined because of Top Gun or the Blue Angels. It inspired almost all of them. Same for military ads during games showcasing free education and healthcare. How are we going to recruit with everyone getting free college and healthcare. Damn near impossible. We would have to implement a draft or accept having a weak military. China would love it. Bye bye Taiwan. There's nothing wrong with doing it, just as long as people can admit to what it really is. Some like to act as if it's our military performing some patriotic display when in reality it is a business decision from our military to recruit more people. As a spectator it truly is a patriotic moment and enjoyable, but I don't think that is honestly it's intended purpose. Same reason why the NFL has a military presence at most games, they are trying to take advantage of people's patriotism in order to gain more fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,392 Posted October 20, 2020 43 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I think the main purpose of the flyovers is for marketing themselves. The fact that they are flying allows them to use it as training hours and anytime it gets brought up as them wasting money they can say it's treated as training. It's pretty basic business really. All kinds of business activities happen for one reason but get expensed for as something else like training or advertising. I do the same thing. You do know that if they weren't doing a flyover at a stadium, they would actually be training somewhere else nearby, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,858 Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Fireballer said: You do know that if they weren't doing a flyover at a stadium, they would actually be training somewhere else nearby, right? Possibly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,392 Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: Possibly. Does being so obtuse come naturally, or do you work at it? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,702 Posted October 20, 2020 Nobody does a fly over in Iowa. What would they fly over? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,858 Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Fireballer said: Does being so obtuse come naturally, or do you work at it? I don't know if they would be doing training exercises elsewhere instead? Those flyovers are scheduled based on the event schedules and not the military's training schedule, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,858 Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Nobody does a fly over in Iowa. What would they fly over? Beautiful Kinnick stadium. You suck at this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,702 Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: Beautiful Kinnick stadium. You suck at this. Never heard of it. Maybe I did , but don’t remember. Who plays there, the Cubs single A team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,237 Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: Beautiful Kinnick stadium. You suck at this. Is that "field of dreams"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,858 Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Never heard of it. Maybe I did , but don’t remember. Who plays there, the Cubs single A team? I'm surprised you never heard of the Hawkeyes. The entire team and band ran a train on your mom. I'm sure she's told you about them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,702 Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: I'm surprised you never heard of the Hawkeyes. The entire team and band ran a train on your mom. I'm sure she's told you about them. Good one. Still doesn’t register. Any big games ever played there that would be worthy of a fly over? Maybe a Trump rally in 2016? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted October 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Does being so obtuse come naturally, or do you work at it? He has a very igotworms vibe. Enters a thread with zero knowledge of the topic, makes an ignorant statement.. Get's schooled by some locals, becomes sort of educated. Then forms some half-cocked new stance based on his old ignorant preconceived notions and the newly found info he received from having his teeth kicked in with facts. New thread, rinse, repeat. It's a never ending cycle. Obtusely existing is his only option. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,858 Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Reality said: He has a very igotworms vibe. Enters a thread with zero knowledge of the topic, makes an ignorant statement.. Get's schooled by some locals, becomes sort of educated. Then forms some half-cocked new stance based on his old ignorant preconceived notions and the newly found info he received from having his teeth kicked in with facts. New thread, rinse, repeat. It's a never ending cycle. Obtusely existing is his only option. Why don't you tell me how I was wrong. Provide me with examples on how wrong I am. If you do well then I will apologize for my ignorant statements. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,858 Posted October 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Good one. Still doesn’t register. Any big games ever played there that would be worthy of a fly over? Maybe a Trump rally in 2016? The flyover before the Ohio State game back in 2010 was one of the greatest flyovers. They flew way too low and got in trouble for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,702 Posted October 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: The flyover before the Ohio State game back in 2010 was one of the greatest flyovers. They flew way too low and got in trouble for it. Oh. Yeah, I guess when Ohio State visits it’s a big deal. In 2010. Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BudBro 117 Posted October 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: The flyover before the Ohio State game back in 2010 was one of the greatest flyovers. They flew way too low and got in trouble for it. That is how it should be done! This 1000 ft minimum has to go after watching this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,858 Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Oh. Yeah, I guess when Ohio State visits it’s a big deal. In 2010. Lol. I was just pointing out the most memorable one because it was awesome. I think they do at least one flyover every year. Iowa always has a tribute to locals currently serving in the military and our veterans. I'm sure Iowa State has the occasional flyover as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BudBro 117 Posted October 20, 2020 Since RedZone began, I find it difficult to imagine why anyone would be interested in watching a national broadcast, having to endure announcers and commercials, and wasting endless hours watching a bunch of nothing happen between the 20s. As an aside, if you listen carefully to Aikman, you can actually hear Madden. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,858 Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, BudBro said: Since RedZone began, I find it difficult to imagine why anyone would be interested in watching a national broadcast, having to endure announcers and commercials, and wasting endless hours watching a bunch of nothing happen between the 20s. As an aside, if you listen carefully to Aikman, you can actually hear Madden. I switched from Dish to Hulu and the RedZone channel is the one I miss the most. The Bears game is really the only game I want to watch the entirety of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,858 Posted October 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, BudBro said: That is how it should be done! This 1000 ft minimum has to go after watching this one. I have a poster of the flyover in my office. I don't think anyone who was there will forget that flyover. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,702 Posted October 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, BudBro said: Since RedZone began, I find it difficult to imagine why anyone would be interested in watching a national broadcast, having to endure announcers and commercials, and wasting endless hours watching a bunch of nothing happen between the 20s. As an aside, if you listen carefully to Aikman, you can actually hear Madden. I DVR prime time games and start watching about an hour into the game, just watching the plays. I hate every announcer and don’t want have to watch commercials. I can’t see watching any other way from now on. Listening to Romo, Aikman and Collinsworth drone on betweeen plays is so tiresome at this point. Plus no Michelle Tafaoya and the other useless sideline reporters. “ he has overcome so much”. Ugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted October 20, 2020 26 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Why don't you tell me how I was wrong. Provide me with examples on how wrong I am. If you do well then I will apologize for my ignorant statements. Oh, I apologize if I made it sound like I wanted some sort of back and forth with you. Simply pointing out your obvious tendencies, which are there for everybody to see. You can either acknowledge them, be less hasty and ignorant in the future or continue as you were... Makes no difference to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,858 Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Reality said: Oh, I apologize if I made it sound like I wanted some sort of back and forth with you. Simply pointing out your obvious tendencies, which are there for everybody to see. You can either acknowledge them, be less hasty and ignorant in the future or continue as you were... Makes no difference to me. So, you make a baseless claim and then take your ball and go home. Well done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I DVR prime time games and start watching about an hour into the game, just watching the plays. I hate every announcer and don’t want have to watch commercials. I can’t see watching any other way from now on. Listening to Romo, Aikman and Collinsworth drone on betweeen plays is so tiresome at this point. Plus no Michelle Tafaoya and the other useless sideline reporters. “ he has overcome so much”. Ugh. Sideline reporting has got to be one of the worst ideas the broadcasts have ever come up with that is still around. If Dennis Miller was still on MNF that would have been the worst. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,702 Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Reality said: Oh, I apologize if I made it sound like I wanted some sort of back and forth with you. Simply pointing out your obvious tendencies, which are there for everybody to see. You can either acknowledge them, be less hasty and ignorant in the future or continue as you were... Makes no difference to me. Bingo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,858 Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Bingo At least I try to back up my opinions. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,702 Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: At least I try to back up my opinions. They’re your opinions. They don’t need back up. It’s your beliefs that do and you don’t do that very well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,858 Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: They’re your opinions. They don’t need back up. It’s your beliefs that do and you don’t do that very well. Why wouldn't opinions need to be backed up? Opinions are based on something which can give more or less credit to them. What's wrong with my beliefs and what does it have to do with this thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Isles 583 Posted October 20, 2020 Can’t believe this thread is close to 3 pages. Oh wait. I guess I can ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mike Isles said: Can’t believe this thread is close to 3 pages. Oh wait. I guess I can ? Thanks for adding to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyinHeadlock 459 Posted October 20, 2020 These flyover costs are practically nothing. Every squadron in the country is constantly doing cross country flights or training on carriers. It is constant and never ends. It would be like debating backing the car out of the garage to wash it. Seriously. Buck is an idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,996 Posted October 20, 2020 43 minutes ago, BudBro said: Since RedZone began, I find it difficult to imagine why anyone would be interested in watching a national broadcast, having to endure announcers and commercials, and wasting endless hours watching a bunch of nothing happen between the 20s. As an aside, if you listen carefully to Aikman, you can actually hear Madden. Redzone isn't perfect. Also, my receiver lets me break my tv in to 4 smaller tv's with different channels on each. For the first game each week, I can watch two games plus redzone at the same time, and still have a fourth window if there's other sports to watch. Works out pretty well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted October 20, 2020 What an attention f@g we have here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted October 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, Strike said: Redzone isn't perfect. Also, my receiver lets me break my tv in to 4 smaller tv's with different channels on each. For the first game each week, I can watch two games plus redzone at the same time, and still have a fourth window if there's other sports to watch. Works out pretty well. You could make better use of this for porn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,996 Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Utilit99 said: You could make better use of this for porn. Oh yeah. Nothing better than Toobin on a 77 inch TV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 559 Posted October 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Surprise that Hawkeye doesn’t like displays of American might. Even though he lives under its protection and would be eaten alive without it. Also lives in a state that's 'protected' by the USDA. The following is from 2012. Imagine how much taxpayers shell out in 2020. https://www.thegazette.com/2012/06/28/iowa-farmers-1-3-billion-in-subsidies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,736 Posted October 20, 2020 4 hours ago, lod001 said: Can see that wimpy joe buck being a biden supporter. Aikman obviously took way too many concussions. Meh, Troy's always been a bit of a doosh. This doesn't surprise me at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,400 Posted October 20, 2020 those 2 have become way too attached Troy used to be cool, but Buckfutt has turned him ghey 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,858 Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, easilyscan said: Also lives in a state that's 'protected' by the USDA. The following is from 2012. Imagine how much taxpayers shell out in 2020. https://www.thegazette.com/2012/06/28/iowa-farmers-1-3-billion-in-subsidies I'm not sure what your point is with this post? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
