Utilit99 4,099 Posted February 18, 2021 Also, "I totally hear that because my brother had a delivery service for medical marijuana. The clientele were parents with their kids in school," board member Richie Masadas appeared to say. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-oakley-school-board-video-teachers-reopen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,018 Posted February 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: Also, "I totally hear that because my brother had a delivery service for medical marijuana. The clientele were parents with their kids in school," board member Richie Masadas appeared to say. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-oakley-school-board-video-teachers-reopen Very diverse group though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted February 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Very diverse group though. What's sad is they are calling their teachers babysitters. That's how they approach their profession. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,693 Posted February 18, 2021 Fuk them. They openly admit their teachers are babysitters, pay them accordingly. Some professions have a true lack of awareness and the feeling of being untouchable. https://www.change.org/p/registrar-of-voters-contra-costa-county-recall-oakley-union-elementary-school-district-board?redirect=false Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,996 Posted February 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Fuk them. They openly admit their teachers are babysitters, pay them accordingly. Some professions have a true lack of awareness and the feeling of being untouchable. https://www.change.org/p/registrar-of-voters-contra-costa-county-recall-oakley-union-elementary-school-district-board?redirect=false I'm not sure you guys want to pay teachers like you pay babysitters. How much does a babysitter make per hour $10-$20 an hour? Now do that for 30 kids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,996 Posted February 18, 2021 Disgusting behaviorr BTW and she should step down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,397 Posted February 18, 2021 23 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: What's sad is they are calling their teachers babysitters. That's how they approach their profession. They’re saying the parents think of the teachers as babysitters, which is true in a lot of cases. Some of those other statements were much worse though 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,018 Posted February 18, 2021 Teachers have had it way too good for too long. They don’t deserve the pedestal they are put on. They continually prove it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,032 Posted February 19, 2021 The worst thing about this is that this isn't the only school board that feels this way. They just got caught. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: They’re saying the parents think of the teachers as babysitters, which is true in a lot of cases. Some of those other statements were much worse though You miss big time on this one. They should have been talking about their obligations to the students they teach (or not teach in this case) with the kind of concern that teachers should have. Kids need school and parents know it. That's why many parents base their location desires on the school district their kids will be going to. They should realize that good education is expensive and that it takes two parents to work to put a few kids through school over a 16 year period. Fock them. They take no pride in their jobs. They see themselves as babysitters. And that is how many of them approach their jobs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,157 Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Fireballer said: Fuk them. They openly admit their teachers are babysitters, pay them accordingly. Some professions have a true lack of awareness and the feeling of being untouchable. https://www.change.org/p/registrar-of-voters-contra-costa-county-recall-oakley-union-elementary-school-district-board?redirect=false My wife would gladly take 5 dollars an hour per kid...6 hour days..don't even pay her for lunch. 28 kids x 5 = 140 X6 = 840 a day...x 180...151k Fock yeah...sign her up!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,355 Posted February 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Cloaca du jour said: My wife would gladly take 5 dollars We know. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,693 Posted February 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said: My wife would gladly take 5 dollars an hour per kid...6 hour days..don't even pay her for lunch. 28 kids x 5 = 140 X6 = 840 a day...x 180...151k Fock yeah...sign her up!!!!! They're not independent contractors. What would a sitter make that works for a company? $10 an hour? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 444 Posted February 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said: My wife would gladly take 5 dollars an hour per kid...6 hour days..don't even pay her for lunch. 28 kids x 5 = 140 X6 = 840 a day...x 180...151k Fock yeah...sign her up!!!!! Why? So her best students evolve into adulthood posting at the GC? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,018 Posted February 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Fireballer said: They're not independent contractors. What would a sitter make that works for a company? $10 an hour? Good thing it’s only 180 days, 6 hours a day, unlike the rest of the workers in this country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,157 Posted February 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Good thing it’s only 180 days, 6 hours a day, unlike the rest of the workers in this country. It should be all year..kids forget to much in summers. Summer Is an outdated concept anyway...kids aren't planting and harvesting anymore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted February 19, 2021 21 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said: It should be all year..kids forget to much in summers. Summer Is an outdated concept anyway...kids aren't planting and harvesting anymore One part of me agrees with you whole hearted on this. Another part of me is, let the kids be kids in grade school. But decrease the amount of summer vacation as you go into high school. By senior year, you go to school 12 months a year with a couple 2 week vacation periods. Get people ready for life. This would be something that would be easy to phase in to the school system as we know it. I think in grade school the kids learn more in the summer time off about social interaction. Grade school work takes little effort to understand unless the kid has mental issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 840 Posted February 19, 2021 This is one reason kids are so messed up these days.....because parents aren't raising them...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,871 Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Teachers have had it way too good for too long. They don’t deserve the pedestal they are put on. They continually prove it. Just like politicians. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,655 Posted February 19, 2021 34 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: One part of me agrees with you whole hearted on this. Another part of me is, let the kids be kids in grade school. But decrease the amount of summer vacation as you go into high school. By senior year, you go to school 12 months a year with a couple 2 week vacation periods. Get people ready for life. This would be something that would be easy to phase in to the school system as we know it. I think in grade school the kids learn more in the summer time off about social interaction. Grade school work takes little effort to understand unless the kid has mental issues. College is even worse. Winter break can be a month and a half. Summer break is longer than in grade school. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,157 Posted February 19, 2021 12 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Teachers have had it way too good for too long. They don’t deserve the pedestal they are put on. They continually prove it. Rofl....you act like the top 2 percent of teachers represent the majority. You are so wrong. What pedestal? Everyone hates teachers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,474 Posted February 19, 2021 11 hours ago, Cloaca du jour said: My wife would gladly take 5 dollars an hour per kid...6 hour days..don't even pay her for lunch. 28 kids x 5 = 140 X6 = 840 a day...x 180...151k Fock yeah...sign her up!!!!! With your wife’s pension and health benefits she is close to that figure right now. dont forget the pension and health benefits.....for life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,282 Posted February 19, 2021 To be fair, the average teenage kid is just barely there, goes to school, does enough to get by. The ones BELOW that "average" are human filth, destined for prison. And then you have the high performers of course, who bust their arse and eventually secure some success for which they are vilified.... I give teachers some credit, they tend to deal with the spawn of some of the worst parenting one could possibly imagine, but I would say the majority of the kids are decent enough. They DO play something of an important role, and probably should be better paid. But at the end of the day, the well-being and success of the children is mostly on the parents. Sadly, there are substantial amounts of people out there who are just worthless, and produce equally worthless adults to replace them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,397 Posted February 19, 2021 The thing I'm most disappointed by them is that after a year of online meetings they don't know when other people are in the meeting? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,679 Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Cloaca du jour said: Rofl....you act like the top 2 percent of teachers represent the majority. You are so wrong. What pedestal? Everyone hates teachers! If your wife isn't on a pedestal, then move to NJ. These people here will put her on one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,693 Posted February 19, 2021 https://www.nationalreview.com/news/email-records-revealed-how-teachers-unions-are-fighting-to-keep-virginia-schools-shuttered/ In his community, most stores, restaurants, churches, and salons are open, Taliaferro said, “but not the schools. The schools are somehow too dangerous.” “The high school students here in Fairfax County, you will find them working at your local grocery stores, at your local Chipotle,” he said. “So the teachers unions want you to believe that it is too dangerous to open schools while they go to the grocery stores to buy groceries, or to the Chipotle to buy a burrito bowl to go from a high school kid that they’re afraid to teach. That is Twilight Zone stuff.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,838 Posted February 19, 2021 These dopes are in the next town over. One has already resigned. Protest scheduled for tomorrow, I believe. Shouldn't be long before the rest of them resign or get removed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,838 Posted February 20, 2021 Entire Oakley school board resigns over embarrassing hot mic moment during public meeting Link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,032 Posted February 20, 2021 1 hour ago, 5-Points said: Entire Oakley school board resigns over embarrassing hot mic moment during public meeting Link Good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,693 Posted February 20, 2021 1 hour ago, 5-Points said: Entire Oakley school board resigns over embarrassing hot mic moment during public meeting Link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,282 Posted February 20, 2021 1 hour ago, 5-Points said: Entire Oakley school board resigns over embarrassing hot mic moment during public meeting Link They cancelled themselves Oh and, no love lost for ANY school board.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,397 Posted February 20, 2021 School boards don’t even get paid much do they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,018 Posted February 20, 2021 Who cares? It’s the teachers and their union that run the show and are ruining things. They are the problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,397 Posted February 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Who cares? It’s the teachers and their union that run the show and are ruining things. They are the problem. I dunno I always thought school boards and the actual teachers often don’t really agree on a lot of things Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,018 Posted February 20, 2021 Just now, TimHauck said: I dunno I always thought school boards and the actual teachers often don’t really agree on a lot of things So? School boards get to hire the Superintendent. They have little control over the union and their contract. The unions run the show. Isn’t it obvious at this point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,397 Posted February 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So? School boards get to hire the Superintendent. They have little control over the union and their contract. The unions run the show. Isn’t it obvious at this point? My point is people seemed to use this thread to rail on teachers when it was the school board, not the teachers being the issue here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,018 Posted February 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, TimHauck said: My point is people seemed to use this thread to rail on teachers when it was the school board, not the teachers being the issue here. The teachers are the issue. They are the ones holding everything back. This isn’t an issue and nobody WGAF if the schools were open Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,032 Posted February 26, 2021 More Oopsies...... https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/education/la-mesa-school-board-member-facing-criticism-for-comments-made-at-meeting/509-6ae0ec8d-4205-4a1d-ae48-3ae8dc59cbd5 Watch the video. It's great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,679 Posted February 26, 2021 On 2/20/2021 at 4:42 PM, TimHauck said: I dunno I always thought school boards and the actual teachers often don’t really agree on a lot of things I think that depends on the districts. In a lot of school districts in NJ, boards are made up of primarily educators. The overwhelming majority here are either current teachers or administrators or retired teachers or administrators. If teachers and board members don't agree on things, then they really only have themselves to blame because they're involved in all of the decisions. In the district where I went to school, there were 15 board members. My friend's mom was pretty mad with the way things were being done so she ran for a spot and happened to win. Her brother also ran and won too. They were the only two non-educators on the board. Basically, anytime decisions were made, the educators pretty much ignored my friend's mom and uncle and did what they wanted. Even if some of the members agreed with them, those members just voted with the others. Here's the funny part about the education system, at least in NJ anyway. The teachers have their own union and the administrators have theirs. Usually when teachers complain, it's about policies that the administrators put in place. Though, instead of blaming the administrators, they blame the government. Here's the best part. They still vote for those people!! NJ is pretty much blue. There are definitely pockets of red in the state and some towns are dark red... basically, there are no Democrat politicians. Though, that's on the local level. Of NJ's 21 counties, I believe the county officials are Democrat let in 18 of them. So even if the town is red, the likelihood is that the County people above them are blue. Democrat county officials give more money to Democrat towns than Republican towns. Shocking, I know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites