Why Do Some People Support Tyranny While Others Defy It?

[naomi 350]

Good read at ZeroHedge

"There is a fundamental question that haunts the pages of history and it is one that has never been addressed in a satisfactory manner. There are many schools of thought on why and how tyranny rises in any given society and all of them miss the mark in terms of explanations, primarily because they all allow their biases to rule their conclusions and blind them to the deeper aspects of power and conspiracy. In other words, they are willing to go down the rabbit hole only so far, and then they deny that the rabbit hole even exists.

The common assumption when it comes to autocracy or oligarchy is that people are “stupid” and easily manipulated into following compelling personalities that make promises they never intend to keep. This is a foolish oversimplification. In truth, the level of manipulation needed to lure a majority of people into dictatorship is so complex that it requires an advanced understanding of human psychology.

In our modern era, people cannot merely be ordered to submit at gunpoint, at least not right away. They must be tricked into conforming, and not only that, but they must be made to think that it was THEIR IDEA all along. Without this dynamic of self censorship and self enslavement, the population will eventually rebel no matter how oppressive the regime. A thousand year tyranny cannot exist unless a number of people are conned into applauding it, or, they directly benefit from it.

And this is where we find the true key to totalitarianism – It only thrives because there is an inherent portion of any given society that secretly loves it and wants it to exist. We might call these people useful idiots, but it is much more than that. They are not necessarily unaware of what they are doing; they understand to some extent that they are helping in the destruction of other people’s freedoms…and they revel in it. Sure, there are elitists and globalists that levy core conspiracies and seek out more and more control, but they could not accomplish much of anything without the aid of the army of sociopathic aberrations that live among us.

This strange and destructive characteristic is ever visible today in light of the covid lockdowns and the push for forced vaccinations. It is clear that there are some people out there that are overly concerned with the personal health decisions of everyone else. The science and the stats prove there is nothing for them to worry about from the virus, but they ignore the science. They thirst for the taste of power. They have become a cult which ignores all logic and demands fealty to their fraudulent narrative. They do not care about the facts, they only care that we comply.

Well, as I have said time and time again: We Will Not Comply!

And so begins the epic conflict; a tale as old as civilization itself. There are two types of people in this world: Those that want to control others, and those that want to be left alone. But what motivates the control freaks? Why are they the way they are? Lets examine some of the causes…

The Fear Engine

There are people that are driven by success, by merit, by hope, by prosperity, by faith, by optimism, by love, and by honor. And then, there are people driven by fear. There are hundreds of various fears, but only a few ways to react to any of them. Collectivists respond to fear with a desperate need to micromanage their environment; they believe that if they can dictate people and events to a certain degree, they can eliminate unexpected outcomes and be free of fear. But life does not work this way and it never will.

The level of influence these people seek is so far beyond them that it can never be attained. That is to say, they will never be satisfied until they get more. Their fears will always haunt them because fears cannot be dealt with from without, they can only be dealt with from within.

Furthermore, the things they fear often revolve around their own narcissism and are of their own making. They fear failure, but they rarely work hard enough to succeed. They fear exposure, but only because they constantly lie. They fear conflict, but only because they are weak in body and character. They fear death, because they believe in nothing greater than themselves. They clamor for dominance of their surroundings because they wrongly believe that they can cheat fate and the consequences of their own terrible choices.

The Safety Of The Mob

The issue of fear extends into the common mindset of the totalitarian and how they find safety. The idea of standing on their own two feet and standing by their principles in the face of opposition is completely foreign to them. They avoid these situations at any cost and the notion of risk is abhorrent to them. So, they instead look for a mob to blend into. This makes them feel safe in obscurity while also wielding force through collectivist action. They can feel powerful while at the same time being pitiful and weak.

These people almost always operate through large single minded groups that punish any dissension in the ranks, usually with gatekeepers that moderate the motivations of the hive.

The mob itself is a weapon, its only purpose beyond the comfort of its adherents is to destroy those people that do not hold the same beliefs or values as the controllers. There is no defensive purpose to the mob; it is an assassin’s tool, it is a nuclear bomb. And, as we have seen in every modern dictatorship from the Bolsheviks in Russia to the Fascists in Germany to the communists in Mao’s China, the totalitarian mob is capable of murdering more people than any nuclear weapon in existence, all in the name of “the greater good of the greater number.”

False Piety In Place Of Self Worth

All tyrants believe themselves to be righteous in their cause, even when they know that their actions are morally abhorrent. I have seen this dynamic on bold display during the covid mandates and the vaccine passports initiatives. Consider for a moment that 99.7% of the population is under no legitimate threat from the covid virus; they will not die from it, and in the vast majority of cases they will recover quickly from it. Yet the covid cult consistently argues that people who refuse the mandates, the lockdowns and the vaccines are putting others at risk, which is why we need to be “forced” to submit.

Most of them know according to the data that covid is not a threat, but the narrative gives them an opportunity to apply power through “moral judgment”, and so they lie, and they continue to lie about the data until they think the lie will be accepted as reality. This is a common aspect of most cults and of fundamentalist religions that have gone astray – The habit of adherents to value lies over facts and evidence not because they are trying to protect their faith, but because it affords them the chance to feel pious and superior to those they are determined to harm.

Those who disagree are labeled heretics, the lowest of the low, the unwashed terrorists. The anti-mandate crowd is thus stripped of its humanity in this way and is painted as demonic. The people who want to remain free become monsters, and the totalitarian monsters become heroes out to save the world. As author Robert Anton Wilson once said:

“The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.”

The Love Of A Cage

I feel as though I understand this mindset to an extent, but it never fails to shock me the way in which people who scratch and scrape for power over others also seem to love being slaves to the system. I’m not so sure that it is ironic, as authoritarianism does fulfill some of its promises of “security” as long as the people involved are willing to trade away any impulses of liberty. If you do as you’re told at all times and serve the system without fail, then there is a good chance you will be able to hold onto the meager necessities of survival. You will live a life, though probably not a happy one.

For those that go above and beyond and cast aside all personal principle in order to further the goals of the system, they might even enjoy a modicum of wealth beyond their peers. You see, in a despotic society, the people who are most without honor are the people that are most rewarded. They don’t need merit, or accomplishment, or skills, or even brains; all they have to do it sell their souls and do whatever it takes to catch the eye of the oligarchy. They don’t have to be good at anything, all they have to do is be evil, and for some people that’s easy.

In this way the system becomes a comfortable blanket that otherwise useless deviants can be swaddled in. They wrap themselves in it and luxuriate in its warmth. They are not concerned with freedom because freedom feels cold to them. Freedom can be isolating and the existence of choice is terrifying. When all your choices are made for you there is never any doubt or internal stress. All that is required is that you wake up each day and obey.

For weak and ignorant people, subservience is a gift instead of a curse. They believe that a cage is meant to be gilded, not escaped from, and anyone that seeks escape must be crazy or dangerous. If free people exist then the slaves are forced to question their own condition and their own compliance, so everyone must be enslaved to remove any and all doubt from society. The hive mind is placed above all else.

The Defiant And Free

The little tyrants that infiltrate humanity probably look at liberty advocates as some kind of alien creatures from far beyond the bounds of their universe. They just can’t fathom how it is possible for someone to defy the system, to stand against the mob or the collective, even when they are outnumbered or when the risk is so high. They assume that it is a form of madness or a lack of intelligence; for how could anyone smart think they have a chance of fighting back against the dictatorship?

Liberty people are individualists by nature, but we also care about the freedoms of others. There is a common propaganda narrative that claims that individualists are “selfish”, but this is not the case at all. It is not enough for us alone to escape slavery, we will not stand by and watch others be forced into bondage either. We are willing to risk our lives not just to save ourselves but to save future generations from autocracy.

As the vaccine passports and mandates continue to escalate the totalitarians will find themselves even more bewildered, because each new mechanism of control will result in even greater impetus for rebellion, and frankly at this point it is going to be us, or them. They will not stop their pursuit of dominion and we will not comply, so we are at an impasse. Our two tribes cannot coexist within the same society, maybe not even the same planet.

The truth is that if voluntarism was a valued ideal then this whole fight could be avoided. If the collectivist cult was willing to accept the notion that they can choose to live in a highly micromanaged environment while others can choose to live independently, then there would be no crisis. We could easily go our separate ways. But this is not how totalitarians think: To them, all people are chattel, we are property to be staked down and reeducated until we see the light. And if we don’t see the light, we are to be done away with and erased.

This is why they are utterly to blame for the war that is coming. They cannot stop themselves from grasping for our throats and our minds. They are addicted to supremacy. They are living in a fever dream and the only drug that cools their veins is total oppression of everyone around them. I see what is coming next and it is not pretty for either side, but it will be especially gruesome for the collectivists because they cannot imagine a scenario in which they lose. They are so certain of their preeminence and the safety of their self imposed prisons that they will see failure as a phantom, a ghost that cannot touch them. It would only take a handful of minor defeats to bring them down, but this requires freedom advocates become more organized than they are.

The bottom line is this: Tyrannical systems are planned by elitists groups and governments and it is they that benefit most from the destruction of public freedoms. It is indeed a conspiracy, and the pandemic lockdowns and forced vaccine response are no exception. However, tyrannical systems could not be executed without the help of a larger psychopathic contingent of the population, and these people congregate together to make terrible things happen. It’s as if they hear a silent dog whistle as totalitarianism rises, or they smell the blood of innocent victims in the air.

Call them leftists, call them communists, call them collectivists, call them whatever you want; but know that the globalists are not our only concern. There is a wall of self absorbed and power hungry peons in the way, and they want whatever scraps they can get from the big boy’s table. They are not oblivious; they have not been tricked into doing the things they do. They are a sad and pathetic bunch but they are still dangerous in their ambitions, and they will continue to slither out of the woodwork as the covid agenda progresses."

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[supermike80 1,352]

Cliffs Notes?  I aint reading all that

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Good to see you Naomi. How you been?

(If this is actually CH, get focked welcher.)

[DonS 3,102]

I definitely defy trannies.  (which is what I thought the thread title said at first glance) 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

“The best slave is the one who thinks he is free.”

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

[TBayXXXVII 2,215]

@naomi, boy I hope a lot of that was copy/paste, because if not, that's an awful lot of typing and time for this lot.

[fandandy 3,312]

1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

@naomi, boy I hope a lot of that was copy/paste, because if not, that's an awful lot of typing and time for this lot.

That's why she has been gone so long.

This is her Opus.

[naomi 350]

7 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

@naomi, boy I hope a lot of that was copy/paste, because if not, that's an awful lot of typing and time for this lot.

 Everything was c/p except "Good read at ZeroHedge."

[Masshole 642]

Wow, that's really well written.    I usually check out ZH a couple times a month but hadn't seen this piece yet.    

Thank you for posting.  

[IGotWorms 3,474]

Lol

[Frozenbeernuts 1,654]

People are pretty horrible at looking long term. Vaccine nazis can only see short term covid numbers. They can't process the impact that it has down the road. More government control. Our kids generation being screwed financially.

They also can't equate historical comparisons of tyranny to what happens today

In short I have found a lot of them think with their emotions first. Saving lives makes me feel good. Thinking about the future doesn't make me feel good right now, so there's no point

[wiffleball 4,695]

Well, I think I'm pretty much already on record here As supporting Trannys.

[Herbivore 920]

40 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Lol

right

[TimHauck 1,898]

36 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

People are pretty horrible at looking long term. Vaccine nazis can only see short term covid numbers. They can't process the impact that it has down the road. More government control. Our kids generation being screwed financially.

They also can't equate historical comparisons of tyranny to what happens today

In short I have found a lot of them think with their emotions first. Saving lives makes me feel good. Thinking about the future doesn't make me feel good right now, so there's no point

Frozenbeernuts: says people can’t equate historical comparisons

Also Frozenbeernuts:  calls people vaccine nazis

LOL

 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Some people look to history.  Other try to erase as much as they can and convince their followers ignore what remains.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,654]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Frozenbeernuts: says people can’t equate historical comparisons

Also Frozenbeernuts:  calls people vaccine nazis

LOL

 

Its true. I have heard from liberal friends that people who are not vaccinated should be put in camps, isolated from going anywhere, hung. There are vaccine Nazis who are screaming at the unvaxxed You are going to die!!!! No, they aren't going to die. The odds of dying are extremely small. I really don't understand why people care so much. It doesn't stop transmission, so who gives a fock?

[Frozenbeernuts 1,654]

8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Frozenbeernuts: says people can’t equate historical comparisons

Also Frozenbeernuts:  calls people vaccine nazis

LOL

 

A lot of these people are also the same ones who believe socialism and communism are both good for society, and it would benefit us to move toward those forms of government and economic functions

[TimHauck 1,898]

2 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Its true. I have heard from liberal friends that people who are not vaccinated should be put in camps, isolated from going anywhere, hung. There are vaccine Nazis who are screaming at the unvaxxed You are going to die!!!! No, they aren't going to die. The odds of dying are extremely small. I really don't understand why people care so much. It doesn't stop transmission, so who gives a fock?

Ok if someone said unvaccinated people should be hung or put in camps then yes "vaccine nazi" is fair.    But if anyone's saying that they are pyschos.

[wiffleball 4,695]

5 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

A lot of these people are also the same ones who believe socialism and communism are both good for society, and it would benefit us to move toward those forms of government and economic functions

Lusten numbnuts, when they start putting you f****** idiots in ovens?then you can call them Nazis.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

10 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Its true. I have heard from liberal friends that people who are not vaccinated should be put in camps, isolated from going anywhere, hung. There are vaccine Nazis who are screaming at the unvaxxed.

No question that we all know someone personally who has said that they will break off relationships with the unvaxxed.  The government is promoting the restriction of public/private services for the unvaxxed.  Seems like the start of something truly evil.  

There is a large group of extremely ignorant people who are convinced the nazis were throwing jews in the ovens on Day 1.   

See Wiff above

[wiffleball 4,695]

The number of idiots who think the vaccine is putting trackers in them is astounding. Somebody tried to tell me that. And I looked at her and said " Oh you mean like the one that's in your phone that you carry with you constantly?"

 

The look on her face was priceless. f****** moron.

[wiffleball 4,695]

4 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

No question that we all know someone personally who has said that they will break off relationships with the unvaxxed.  The government is promoting the restriction of public/private services for the unvaxxed.  Seems like the start of something truly evil.  

There is a large group of extremely ignorant people who are convinced the nazis were throwing jews in the ovens on Day 1.   

That's ridiculous.

 

Everyone knows you have to preheat those things first.

 

Thank God Mengele didn't invent the One Pot.

[naomi 350]

The Nazi era comparisons may seem to be hyperbolic, unfair BS.

But there are some incredibly important insights to take from that time, and only because what happened is a product of what human nature does under certain conditions. And if we dive into another place, time and struggle, we can pull out most of the same cautioning (or glaring red light) insights.

This is the best thing I've ever read on this. You are naïve (or just not intuitive enough) if it takes really black and white, overt things, to 'get it.'

https://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html

[TimmySmith 2,782]

1 minute ago, wiffleball said:

That's ridiculous.

 

Everyone knows you have to preheat those things first.

1ST you have to build them.  While you are doing that, you are convincing people that certain others belong in them. 

[Frozenbeernuts 1,654]

7 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

No question that we all know someone personally who has said that they will break off relationships with the unvaxxed.  The government is promoting the restriction of public/private services for the unvaxxed.  Seems like the start of something truly evil.  

There is a large group of extremely ignorant people who are convinced the nazis were throwing jews in the ovens on Day 1.   

See Wiff above

Liberals are angling for people to be cut off if they are unvaccinated from everything.

Watch out for proposals calling for a collective ban from all social media if someone is banned from one. Also watch out for the calls to ban them from payment services too.

[TheNewGirl 1,093]

Fock me, I see Naomi is still long winded after all these years. 

I ain't reading all that shiiite. 

[DonS 3,102]

16 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Lusten numbnuts, when they start putting you f****** idiots in ovens?then you can call them Nazis.

Would ovens at least kill the Covid? 

[TimHauck 1,898]

19 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

No question that we all know someone personally who has said that they will break off relationships with the unvaxxed.  The government is promoting the restriction of public/private services for the unvaxxed.  Seems like the start of something truly evil.  

There is a large group of extremely ignorant people who are convinced the nazis were throwing jews in the ovens on Day 1.   

See Wiff above

But for those comparisons to be fair, you still have to believe the US government is eventually planning to commit mass murder.   Otherwise the "but they didn't throw people in ovens on Day 1" line doesn't hold up.

[naomi 350]

"As Lord Acton warned over a century ago, “the issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the banks” This fight is now upon us. It might be the ultimate struggle between humanity’s emancipation or our final enslavement. To prevail, we must understand our true enemies and the financial, economic, political and social structures enabling their agenda.
As the Rockefeller Foundation document reveals, they have anticipated our pushback and have surely planned diversions to misdirect our grievances toward the visible enablers of their top-down authoritarian rule. One of the greatest means of diversion are wars. We must therefore guard against believing that our enemies are the Russians, the Chinese or whomever the logic of divide-and-rule would pit us against."  ...

Thinking in terms of the U.S. government actually calling shots (literally and figuratively in this case)...

The visible enablers are just that.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

41 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

But for those comparisons to be fair, you still have to believe the US government is eventually planning to commit mass murder.   

No you don't, because no sane government would ever do that.  At least that is what every citizen believes until it happens.

Just better to never exclude anyone.  Even if you think it is for the best of reasons. 

[naomi 350]

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience.” Albert Camus

[TimHauck 1,898]

4 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

No you don't, because no sane government would ever do that.  At least that is what every citizen believes until it happens.

Just better to never exclude anyone.  Even if you think it is for the best of reasons. 

So you do think the US government may eventually be preparing for mass murder of its citizens then?

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

So you do think the US government may eventually be preparing for mass murder of its citizens then?

It's already happening. Have you seen what they are doing at the border letting in over a million disease infected violent criminals carrying fentanyl and other drugs? 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

So you do think the US government may eventually be preparing for mass murder of its citizens then?

Dunno, but let's not wait and see while they divide the country.  

(Of course there is always the possibility they funded research that ultimately killed a few 100k already)

[Utilit99 4,099]

4 minutes ago, naomi said:

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience.” Albert Camus

"Life is the sum of all your choices."

[TimHauck 1,898]

2 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Dunno, but let's not wait and see while they divide the country.  

(Of course there is always the possibility they funded research that ultimately killed a few 100k already)

Well at least you're finally coming closer to agreeing with the covid death number.

[Big Guy 1,400]

because some people are morons

[wiffleball 4,695]

2 hours ago, DonS said:

Would ovens at least kill the Covid? 

Waiting on Bier to come in here and insist Sous Vide beats the traditional Jew oven. 

[Cantaloupe 44]

3 hours ago, wiffleball said:

Lusten numbnuts, when they start putting you f****** idiots in ovens?then you can call them Nazis.

I wonder if Shake and Bake commercials in Germany use Nazis? 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

My thoughts on why some support tyranny...

Do you know what a con man is?  Its a confidence man.  Its a grifter that gets their way by simply being confident.  But why does that even work in the first place?  Because a large subset of the population has an eternal faith in authority figures.  People see someone in a suit talking confidently and they assume that person knows what to do.  This weakness exists across all classes of people, rich or poor.  They will ignore all the horrible things happening around them, simply because the leader is confident and reassuring.  Now multiply that by a factor of the government, corporations, science and education leadership all backing each other up on supporting leftist tyranny.