“We’re not against all vaccines, just the Covid ones”

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18 minutes ago, vomit said:

There is no 90% efficacy requirement for a vaccine.  The influenza vaccine is around 50%.

ffs there WAS!

prior to 2002, in order for something to be classified as a vaccine it had to prove a 90% efficacy rate AGAINST catching it, not 50% of making the symptoms lessor

 

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https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=50886

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7 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

ffs there WAS!

prior to 2002, in order for something to be classified as a vaccine it had to prove a 90% efficacy rate AGAINST catching it, not 50% of making the symptoms lessor

 

link?

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2 minutes ago, vomit said:

link?

Why so angry Hank? 

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41 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

there used to be a standard of 90% efficacy to be classified as a vaccine, Rubella was 86%, thats what it was paired with the MM in order to be able to classify it together

This is a complete bullsh!t lie. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Why so angry Hank? 

I just asked for a link, focking retard.

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7 minutes ago, vomit said:

This is a complete bullsh!t lie. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine

omg such complete bullsh1t I mixed up the numbers on Mumps and Rubella

omg omg omg, how dare I go off of what I was remembering

 

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15 minutes ago, vomit said:

link?

its somewhere in the covid thread, you can go look, unfortunately now, everything and I mean EVERYTHING I try only brings up info about covid

it might be somewhere in here, as I have referenced this before

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4927017/

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40 minutes ago, vomit said:

That's not what happened but you will only believe what you believe.

Yeah, it's just coincidence that they changed the definition after a "vaccine" came out that didn't meet the definition that had been accepted for a long time before that. 

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1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

omg such complete bullsh1t I mixed up the numbers on Mumps and Rubella

omg omg omg 

This is the kind of BS that have to deal with.  You have people making up complete BS lies, they get called out on it, then they make excuses.

The truth is there is no 90% efficacy requirement to be called a vaccine.  It's not the reason why Mumps or Rubella or whatever was included together.

Please.  Stop.  Lying.

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Just now, Strike said:

Yeah, it's just coincidence that they changed the definition after a "vaccine" came out that didn't meet the definition that had been accepted for a long time before that. 

The influenza vaccine didn't meet that definition either.

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Just now, vomit said:

This is the kind of BS that have to deal with.  You have people making up complete BS lies, they get called out on it, then they make excuses.

 

Yeah, you.

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5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

its somewhere in the covid thread, you can go look, unfortunately now, everything and I mean EVERYTHING I try only brings up info about covid

 

Here: https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-history/developments-by-year

MMR Vaccine introduced in 1971.

Also the pneumococcal vaccine introduced in 2001, during the fake "90% rule" is only 60%-70% effective.

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3 minutes ago, Strike said:

Yeah, you.

What did I make up?

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Here's what happened, your generic idiot, who couldn't even spell vaccine prior to 2020, they just lined up for shots, no idea about anything, these idiots all turned into Doctors/Epidemiologists overnight after getting caught up in covid conspiracies they saw on the internet while being stuck home for 2 months with nothing to do.

I really wish the idiots would just go back to being idiots and stop polluting the world with BS.

The truly hilarious part is these idiots now consider themselves woke, critical thinkers, and the rest of us are the sheep.

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18 minutes ago, vomit said:

The influenza vaccine didn't meet that definition either.

It is not a vaccine either Hank.

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1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

It is not a vaccine either Hank.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_vaccine

CHECK.  MATE.

Eat my ass, gay boy.

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Call it what you want.  For what it was meant/sold to be, I'll call it a failure of epic proportions.

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1 minute ago, vomit said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_vaccine

CHECK.  MATE.

Eat my ass, gay boy.

Well that insinuates that a shot and a vaccine are the same thing. Vaccine is turn into a meaningless term.

How can a shot that has to be administered every year and is as low as 23% effective be classified a vaccine? 

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27 minutes ago, vomit said:

Here: https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-history/developments-by-year

MMR Vaccine introduced in 1971.

Also the pneumococcal vaccine introduced in 2001, during the fake "90% rule" is only 60%-70% effective.

Yep hence why they changed their definition. It wouldn’t have been classified as that. When I get done working I will find the info for you. 
 

and god forbid I’m such a liar for mixing up the efficacy of mumps and rubella omg. 
 

nothing I have said changes anything of the fact that the Covid “vaccine” does zero to stop Covid from spreading 

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56 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=50886

Some idiots simply will not wake up as much as ya try, even when you present them with the facts.

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34 minutes ago, Strike said:

Yeah, it's just coincidence that they changed the definition after a "vaccine" came out that didn't meet the definition that had been accepted for a long time before that. 

Idiots will never be able to comprehend what took place. Slightly lesser idiots will make up an excuse for why the definition was changed.

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5 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Well that insinuates that a shot and a vaccine are the same thing. Vaccine is turn into a meaningless term.

How can a shot that has to be administered every year and is as low as 23% effective be classified a vaccine? 

It can't. He's a retard.

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4 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Well that insinuates that a shot and a vaccine are the same thing. Vaccine is turn into a meaningless term.

How can a shot that has to be administered every year and is as low as 23% effective be classified a vaccine? 

Because it fits the definition of what a vaccine is. 

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1 minute ago, lod001 said:

Idiots will never be able to comprehend what took place. Slightly lesser idiots will make up an excuse for why the definition was changed.

It's crazy to me the hill some of the idiots on this board choose to die on.  As I said I've been jabbed.  I got nothing against the Covid jab.  It's effective for what it is, but not for what we were told it was when it came out. 

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5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Yep hence why they changed their definition. It wouldn’t have been classified as that. When I get done working I will find the info for you. 
 

and god forbid I’m such a liar for mixing up the efficacy of mumps and rubella omg. 
 

nothing I have said changes anything of the fact that the Covid “vaccine” does zero to stop Covid from spreading 

You're a liar because you said the reason why Mumps, measles and rubella were combined into 1 vaccine was because one of them was < 90% effective and couldn't be a vaccine on it's own.  That is complete BS and I proved it.  Stop spinning and take the L

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4 minutes ago, Strike said:

It's crazy to me the hill some of the idiots on this board choose to die on.  As I said I've been jabbed.  I got nothing against the Covid jab.  It's effective for what it is, but not for what we were told it was when it came out. 

Exactly.  These idiots will use every excuse in the books, talking about changing definitions, fake 90% rules, etc.  sh!t that is easily proven wrong, just to fit their conspiracy theory.

Sure, when the vaccine first came it, it was supposed to be 95% effective and last possibly forever.  Instead what we know now is that it's just much less effective and doesn't last long at all.  That doesn't mean there is some vast conspiracy, it just means we didn't do a great job, but we're still working on getting better.

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51 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

its somewhere in the covid thread, you can go look, unfortunately now, everything and I mean EVERYTHING I try only brings up info about covid

it might be somewhere in here, as I have referenced this before

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4927017/

Convenient that you don't have a link

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1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

ffs there WAS!

prior to 2002, in order for something to be classified as a vaccine it had to prove a 90% efficacy rate AGAINST catching it, not 50% of making the symptoms lessor

 

Prior to 2002?

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2 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

yes I claimed it was 0% effective at stopping the spread of covid

yeah, that's stupid, especially pre-Omicron.

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On 9/29/2021 at 8:26 PM, Djgb13 said:

Even all these “cases” of covid are fake. When the health officials come right out and tell you to your face that anyone that dies from something but tests positive for covid is counted as a covid death. Add to the fact that the prime minister of a country swabbed both a goat and a bowling ball and they came back positive should tell you how much this has been blown out of proportion. Until you get an ACCURATE count of people that ACTUALLY died from JUST covid then we can talk. Til then, it’s a just a major push by governments to control their citizens and get the retards (like MDC and Tim Hack) to turn on their own countrymen in favor of politicians who don’t give AF about them. 

Another note, the vaccine does NOT stop vaccinated from contracting it. From vaxxed and unvaxxed alike. Vaccine just lessens the symptoms and helps your own body fight off the infection (straight out of a science book for the idiotic bored liberals). Doesn’t matter. Also, the unvaccinated are NOT the cause of covid mutations. A lot of retarded liberals are saying that when they have zero clue about the science behind why a virus mutates. It’s actually the vaccine along with a few other contributing factors. 

 

On 9/29/2021 at 2:18 PM, Cdub100 said:

If there was a real pandemic going on. Nobody would need to be convinced to take a vaccine. We would line up around the block to take it. 

 

On 9/3/2021 at 1:01 PM, Baker Boy said:

This entire over reach of power during the fake “pandemic” of COVID is nothing more than a Beta test on the compliance of the American people.

It is said that in the time of a revolution 50% of the people will go along easily, 30% have to be convinced and 20% will have to be eliminated. I think this is holding true.

 

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Someone said Covid isn’t real? Here? Anyone have a link? If it’s true, that guy is whack.

Above are a few examples.

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3 hours ago, Strike said:

I've had the Covid shot and I don't think it's proper to call it a vaccine.  I got the shingles vaccine a couple years ago.  It's rated to protect you for something like 10-15 years.  That's a vaccine.  A shot that may or may not protect you, and you need an undetermined number of boosters so you can get that maybe protection, isn't a vaccine in my book. 

The Shingles vaccine is 90%+ effective for "people with healthy immune systems."  It was between 68-91% effective for people with weakened immune systems.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/shingles/public/shingrix/index.html

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18 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

 

 

 

Above are a few examples.

Don't pull me into whatever slap fest you have going on.

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1 hour ago, vomit said:

This is the kind of BS that have to deal with.  You have people making up complete BS lies, they get called out on it, then they make excuses.

The truth is there is no 90% efficacy requirement to be called a vaccine.  It's not the reason why Mumps or Rubella or whatever was included together.

Please.  Stop.  Lying.

You mean like the guy who said that "99.9999% of people that get the vax have vax derived immunity", even though no studies have been done to track it and even though the FDA literally told people NOT to even get checked?

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7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

The Shingles vaccine is 90%+ effective for "people with healthy immune systems."  It was between 68-91% effective for people with weakened immune systems.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/shingles/public/shingrix/index.html

WTF does this have to do with my post, asshat? 

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29 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

You mean like the guy who said that "99.9999% of people that get the vax have vax derived immunity", even though no studies have been done to track it and even though the FDA literally told people NOT to even get checked?

Correct, no studies have been done, but I would assume my statement to be accurate.  You can disagree all you like.

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1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

 

 

 

Above are a few examples.

I stand by my post, we created a ‘pandemic’ over something that could have been handled better. Only the old and sickly needed to be protected, the rest of us should have lived our lives as normal. It is proven masks don’t work and lockdowns make the spread worse. Covid = yes, pandemic = man made.

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19 minutes ago, vomit said:

Correct, no studies have been done, but I would assume my statement to be accurate.  You can disagree all you like.

You assume  
HANK! You’re barfing again.

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2 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

I stand by my post, we created a ‘pandemic’ over something that could have been handled better. Only the old and sickly needed to be protected, the rest of us should have lived our lives as normal. It is proven masks don’t work and lockdowns make the spread worse. Covid = yes, pandemic = man made.

This is all true.  But the covid vaccine is still actually a vaccine. So is the flu shot.

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1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

You assume  
HANK! You’re barfing again.

Tell us again how the influenza vaccine is not a vaccine.