Boom! Disney getting canceled 🤣😅

[RogerDodger 797]

34 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Guardians grossed $840M.  Prod cost $250M.  250*2.5= $625M.

Roger thinks that's breaking even

Exactly, tiny brain.  You cant make a profit without breaking past the even point. Unlike their other movies this year.  Holy fok you're dumb.  

Minor in finance.

[Gladiators 1,979]

18 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Exactly, tiny brain.  You cant make a profit without breaking past the even point. Unlike their other movies this year.  Holy fok you're dumb.  

Minor in finance.

After getting owned so badly in this thread, he decided to just go ahead and own himself.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

18 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Exactly, tiny brain.  You cant make a profit without breaking past the even point. Unlike their other movies this year.  Holy fok you're dumb.  

Minor in finance.

Yeah no one is buying that.  You can't do math.  You're a complete idiot.

[RogerDodger 797]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

Yeah no one is buying that.  You can't do math.  You're a complete idiot.

Read the room. Everyone but you. You're on an island. Dummy Island. 

[RLLD 4,191]

Disney can handle it. I wont be investing in them so long as they prioritize social pursuits over profit though. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

10 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Read the room. Everyone but you. You're on an island. Dummy Island. 

It's a room full of idiots.  This island is nice.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,226]

Gutterboy is all weepy about the bud light bottlers getting laid off, but DGAF about the 7k Disney employees losing their jobs. 

[Strike 5,385]

12 hours ago, RLLD said:

Disney can handle it. I wont be investing in them so long as they prioritize social pursuits over profit though. 

Can handle what?  Did you see the link I posted?  Disney is up for sale.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

51 minutes ago, Strike said:

Can handle what?  Did you see the link I posted?  Disney is up for sale.

Did you read the link you posted?

Disney is not up for sale.

Quote

Rumors have long swirled that Iger will end up selling all of Disney to Apple. It’s still hard to imagine Iger selling Disney to anyone. He was always a builder — not a seller.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,226]

10 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

Did you read the link you posted?

Disney is not up for sale.

 

Just 1/3 of it. lol. 

[RogerDodger 797]

Not for sale!

Think of it as a garage sale.  

 

Then selling your car. 

 

Then moving out of your house into a condo.  

[Sean Mooney 1,966]

On 7/17/2023 at 8:14 PM, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

 

Mooney Math says not only did they break even, they realized another $250-$300 million in profits from that imaginary profit thingy.  Just like the Little Mermaid, Elemental and Indiana Jones.  Profit is easy when you get to keep all 100% of the worldwide box office ticket sales. 

You get off on lying about what people said

That is the only reason you keep repeating things I did not say

[TimHauck 2,716]

On 7/12/2023 at 9:36 AM, GutterBoy said:

You really wanna do this?  It's amazing how invested you are in Disney box office numbers.  Personally I really don't care, but I'm more interested in shutting up loud mouth ignorant ass holes like yourself.  So here it goes.

First we need to agree on a formula, which I'm sure we can't, because you're a douche.  There is no one formula, and studios aren't very public or accurate when it comes to the numbers, so we'll have to make some assumptions here.

Your math is (production cost + marketing) x 2 = total expense.  Seems kinda arbitrary.

From all my research, and I've been googling for about 30 mins, the generally agreed upon number is  2.5x production. https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/a0os16/other_thumb_rule_to_calculate_movie_profits/

 

In general, it's complicated https://gizmodo.com/how-much-money-does-a-movie-need-to-make-to-be-profitab-5747305

Another article that goes even deeper than just box office, as there are other avenues of revenue like home and merch: https://entertainmentstrategyguy.com/2019/11/20/the-great-irishman-challenge-how-to-calculate-the-feature-film-profitability-part-i/

And here is an interesting quora talking about how studios don't want to make a profit, in short that translates to profit sharing, which they want to avoid https://www.quora.com/How-does-one-calculate-the-gross-and-net-profit-of-a-filmt

So I'll admit that I didn't know much about how box office numbers worked prior to these discussions.  I don't work in the industry and it's not a hobby.  But after 30 mins of googling I'll call myself an expert now.  So now I'll correct where you are wrong.

Movie	    Gross	Prod Cost	2.5x prod	Profit
Guardians	841	     250	       625	      216
Mermaid 	543    	 250	       625        -82
Ant Man   	476	     200	       500        -24
Indiana Jo	252	     295	       737.5	  -485.5
Elemental	255	     200           500	      -245

Those are the top 5 movies from Disney for 2023 so far.

So Guardians is +216, not +140. 

Mermaid is -82, not -240.

Black Panther was released in 2022, same as Avatar which was their most successful movie in recent history.

Ant Man is -24, not -240

So the total profit for 2023 is not -170.  If you include avatar sales alone it's in the black, but again, that's technically a 2022 release (Dec 16 2022)

You also didn't include Indiana Jones and Elemental.  Indiana Jones has a tough hill to climb to break even, and Elemental is likely a bust.  I include these in full transparency, even though the numbers aren't good so far for Indy, but it's early.

I shared all this in case anyone is interested in learning more and having an honest conversation.

I fully expect your response to be along the lines of "Tiny is poor, tiny can't do math and isn't good with words, tiny is a life loser, I win", go ahead with it if you like.

Looking at the industry as a whole, I think it's still struggling from covid, theater closures, costs, people giving up on movies, etc.  And I think the whole industry might be in trouble.

Good article on that: https://kievkelvin.com/blog/why-is-the-film-industry-dying/

Disney struggling because they are woke?  That's just stupid.

also, more receipts:

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/guardians-of-the-galaxy-3-box-office-staying-power-1235605571/
https://movieweb.com/the-little-mermaid-box-office-success/
https://screenrant.com/how-much-ant-man-wasp-quantumania-cost-to-make
https://screenrant.com/indiana-jones-dial-destiny-budget-box-office-prediction/
https://screenrant.com/elemental-movie-budget-box-office-prediction/

Elemental seems to be making a bit of a comeback, as it has grossed $362 million and apparently is now the highest grossing animated Pixar film since Covid.

From what I hear it’s actually a good movie.  But the marketing was sh1t.  Because of that it seems the marketing budget may have been lower than typical and I’ve seen several estimates that it “only” needs $400 million to break even, although of course it’s still a bit shy of that.  But not a total flop like some initially thought.

 

 

[dogcows 1,030]

87 pages later… is Disney cancelled yet?

[Reality 3,121]

Not great, Bob.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/09/media/nightcap-iger-disney/index.html 

[RLLD 4,191]

13 minutes ago, Reality said:

Not great, Bob.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/09/media/nightcap-iger-disney/index.html 

Will it really matter who is placed in charge?  I mean, they are chasing people away with both their social activism as well as prices.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

 they are chasing people away with both their social activism as well as prices.

Are they really?  I mean, two of this board biggest righties, you and cdub, both have vacation plans there, right?

[RLLD 4,191]

8 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Are they really?  I mean, two of this board biggest righties, you and cdub, both have vacation plans there, right?

Yep, but I notice you did not ask if I was taking kids....

[GutterBoy 2,898]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Yep, but I notice you did not ask if I was taking kids....

No, Sorry I didn't really care.  So tell us, are you taking the kids?

Back to the point, they're not chasing away people in any meaningful numbers based on activism.  Prices? Sure.

[RLLD 4,191]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

No, Sorry I didn't really care.  So tell us, are you taking the kids?

Back to the point, they're not chasing away people in any meaningful numbers based on activism.  Prices? Sure.

Perhaps you are correct, and the announcement from the company is wrong, or is a lie, it might take some time to noodle that out.....for now, lets assume the compant is correct in their reporting of performance.

Now, not taking kids....not to Disney, never again.   Going to encourage my kids to not take THEIR kids....until the company ends its misguided exploitation of the mentally ill for social status. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Perhaps you are correct, and the announcement from the company is wrong, or is a lie, it might take some time to noodle that out.....for now, lets assume the compant is correct in their reporting of performance.

Now, not taking kids....not to Disney, never again.   Going to encourage my kids to not take THEIR kids....until the company ends its misguided exploitation of the mentally ill for social status. 

So you're OK supporting Disney who you think exploits the mentally ill, but you don't want your kids to support them?  Sorry having trouble understanding the logic here.

[RLLD 4,191]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

So you're OK supporting Disney who you think exploits the mentally ill, but you don't want your kids to support them?  Sorry having trouble understanding the logic here.

I won't expose my kids to them any further, and will encourage anyone with kids to do the same. Their exploitation of the mentally ill is also a problem, but this falls right into line with my other area of hypocrisy....abortion....I support abortion and that is unusual for a conservative....because while I oppose murder, I support it in the case of people willing to murder their babies.  With regard to Disney, "I" am able to handle exposure to their disgusting views, and enjoy the park for the food and wine, while avoiding any of their movies and such. And no longer invest as well.

I think people like to pretend their are not hypocrits, be we all are to some degree, even when we try to avoid it. So I embrace it.  

Now, if the company wants to make money, meet their fiduciary duty to their investors, then they should be seeking to generate revenue and profit......not join in with sick social movements. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I won't expose my kids to them any further, and will encourage anyone with kids to do the same. Their exploitation of the mentally ill is also a problem, but this falls right into line with my other area of hypocrisy....abortion....I support abortion and that is unusual for a conservative....because while I oppose murder, I support it in the case of people willing to murder their babies.  With regard to Disney, "I" am able to handle exposure to their disgusting views, and enjoy the park for the food and wine, while avoiding any of their movies and such. And no longer invest as well.

I think people like to pretend their are not hypocrits, be we all are to some degree, even when we try to avoid it. So I embrace it.  

Now, if the company wants to make money, meet their fiduciary duty to their investors, then they should be seeking to generate revenue and profit......not join in with sick social movements. 

What age do you think it's safe for someone to be exposed to Disney material?

[RLLD 4,191]

23 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

What age do you think it's safe for someone to be exposed to Disney material?

I think that will depend on the parent, but in terms of their sexualization of content, perhaps 14.....maybe....

[GutterBoy 2,898]

32 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I think that will depend on the parent, but in terms of their sexualization of content, perhaps 14.....maybe....

OK, that's fair, because you got hard over some 15 and 16 year old asians the other day.  Wasn't sure if you were accepting of your hypocrisy there as well.

[RLLD 4,191]

3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

OK, that's fair, because you got hard over some 15 and 16 year old asians the other day.  Wasn't sure if you were accepting of your hypocrisy there as well.

I was not getting hard    But I did want to highlight it, it seems like someone is collecting up these kids, putting them in stripper clothing, and then having them gyrate on stage to lip synced music....it seems....odd...

[Wade Garrett 155]

What disney content is sexualzing children?  And when did this happen?  I raised my kids in the '2000's and '2010's and no one said boo about Disney sexualzing kids.

Oh it's another alt right boogeyman created to keep the sheep scared?  Like their fear of non-whites and extreme focus on trannies?

Now it makes sense. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,226]

4 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

Are they really?  I mean, two of this board biggest righties, you and cdub, both have vacation plans there, right?

I don’t.  

[League Champion 1,909]

On 8/9/2023 at 12:25 PM, Wade Garrett said:

Now it makes sense.

 

[Wade Garrett 155]

2 minutes ago, League Champion said:

 

I see you're ready to go again LeagueLoser.  Guess you got some rest from this morning and now you're back to posting your spank bank of tranny pics.  You are quite bigly pathetic boyo.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,002]

5 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

I see you're ready to go again LeagueLoser.  Guess you got some rest from this morning and now you're back to posting your spank bank of tranny pics.  You are quite bigly pathetic boyo.

Ready to go against YOU? 

Your a f'n lightweight troll.  Don't confuse your output with quality.  It's all noise to everyone.  Go back to doing what you do best - they call you Glory Hole Garrett for a reason.  I'm sure there's a Truckstop that needs your services somewhere.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

If i am getting a correct read on the disney situation, they are taking a stab at slashing the movie budgets quite a bit instead of reeling back wokism. 

[Wade Garrett 155]

3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Ready to go against YOU? 

Your a f'n lightweight troll.  Don't confuse your output with quality.  It's all noise to everyone.  Go back to doing what you do best - they call you Glory Hole Garrett for a reason.  I'm sure there's a Truckstop that needs your services somewhere.

LMFAO.

Stay out of this junior.  Your cultist IQ barely qualifies you to be a sheetrock mudder or farmer, let alone spar with me.

And speaking of glory holes, you certainly do seem to know a lot about that particular feature of the gay lifestyle.

I'm guessing you and Roger/Horsesass are good "friends"...

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,002]

Just now, Wade Garrett said:

LMFAO.

Stay out of this junior.  Your cultist IQ barely qualifies you to be a sheetrock mudder or farmer, let alone spar with me.

And speaking of glory holes, you certainly do seem to know a lot about that particular feature of the gay lifestyle.

I'm guessing you and Roger/Horsesass are good "friends"...

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Back to your glory hole, you racist and bigoted POS.

Even your ex-boyfriend GutterPedo can't stand you. 

[Wade Garrett 155]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Back to your glory hole, you racist and bigoted POS.

Even your ex-boyfriend GutterPedo can't stand you. 

Again with your glory hole this, glory hole that.  Like LeagueLoser with his spank bank of trannie pics and Roger/Horsesass and his love of gay porn and being bottomed.

Is this place some kind of homo dating site and I'm unaware?  I mean I get that you homos are homos but your kind seem to run rampant here.  Racist, moron homos.  Not really the ideal way to go through life boyos.

SAD

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,002]

Just now, Wade Garrett said:

Again with your glory hole this, glory hole that.  Like LeagueLoser with his spank bank of trannie pics and Roger/Horsesass and his love of gay porn and being bottomed.

Is this place some kind of homo dating site and I'm unaware?  I mean I get that you homos are homos but your kind seem to run rampant here.  Racist, moron homos.  Not really the ideal way to go through life boyos.

SAD

Hey, how can you type and service a glory hole at the same time?  I guess you are the Wade Garrett of glory holes!  A legend in the glory hole space.

How long you been a racist and bigoted POS?  You're a far left loon who uses gay insults and slurs? 

GTFO, you f'n loser.

[Wade Garrett 155]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Hey, how can you type and service a glory hole at the same time?  I guess you are the Wade Garrett of glory holes!  A legend in the glory hole space.

How long you been a racist and bigoted POS?  You're a far left loon who uses gay insults and slurs? 

GTFO, you f'n loser.

Again with the glory hole talk.  I assume the next step is you telling me where the most active glory holes are.

You've legit outed yourself, just like Roger/Hoursesass, as a cok loving homo.

Love this for you.

Looking forward to your next glory hole take.  You're getting more specific each time you chub up and talk about it. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,002]

2 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Again with the glory hole talk.  I assume the next step is you telling me where the most active glory holes are.

You've legit outed yourself, just like Roger/Hoursesass, as a cok loving homo.

Love this for you.

Looking forward to your next glory hole take.  You're getting more specific each time you chub up and talk about it. 

Glory Hole Garrett - it's what you live by.  I mean, you're called Glory Hole Garrett for a reason - and it's not because you're good at anything else.  Glory Holes - it's what you do.  Hence, Glory Hole Garrett.

You've earned it!

[Wade Garrett 155]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Glory Hole Garrett - it's what you live by.  I mean, you're called Glory Hole Garrett for a reason - and it's not because you're good at anything else.  Glory Holes - it's what you do.  Hence, Glory Hole Garrett.

You've earned it!

#26

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,002]

Just now, Wade Garrett said:

I've serviced 26 glory holes today alone!  I truly am the Wade Garret of Glory Holes!

Congrats?