Insurrection Hearings

[Voltaire 5,317]

41 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

feels like rotten timing for this.  there are so many enormous issues out there.  many will see the hearings as a distraction or hitjob on trump.  might very well backfire and make trump look even better than he does today.

They don’t have anything else but “Orange Man bad” and abortion. So they draw this out Thru November.

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19 hours ago, jonmx said:

Narrative:  A huge well-coordinated heavily armed mob stormed the Capitol breaking thru barricades in a deadly attempt to over throw the government.

Reality

Well-coordinated = a paid informant with a blow-horn

Heavily-armed = flag pole and a thing of bear spray.

Stormed = police opening doors and allowing them to go thru check points where they were scanned.  

Barricades = a few of 3' high bike racks.  

Deadly = police beating and shooting unarmed women. 

Overthrow the government = stole a coat rack 

Feared for her life = at a different building across the street

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

Bottom line: No one actually believes the government was in danger of being overthrown. Not for a minute. It was a mob that got out of control, but mostly peaceful. Many have paid the price for their actions that day. This is an attempt to make it more than it was. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

Also, the riots after Trump took over were worse. And so were the democrat backed  riots of 2020. They had real impact and still do. All Jan 6 has wrought is fever dreams for Libtards. 

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Sorry if already posted, but they’re going after Jack Del Rio for saying it like it is…
 

 

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6 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

Sorry if already posted, but they’re going after Jack Del Rio for saying it like it is…
 

 

Oh my god. He has a different opinion. Must be a racist too. 

[Mike Honcho 5,283]

I'm impressed with how many of you are going into this with an open mind, carefully listening to all the evidence before reaching any conclusions. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

5 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

I'm impressed with how many of you are going into this with an open mind, carefully listening to all the evidence before reaching any conclusions. 

So they have been holding back? Our democracy is at stake and they are waiting for the big reveal in prime time, like the bachelor? Is that how governments work now? Good morning stupid person. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

When are they going to put the liberal backed summer of 2020 insurrections commitee together to find out what the fock happened there?

Oh, they're not. This isn't a political stunt in the least. 

Have fun watching the Farce TV show. Brought to you by nasty pelosi. The lady who turned down Trump's suggestion to build up the security at the capital that day.

 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 minute ago, Utilit99 said:

When are they going to put the liberal backed summer of 2020 insurrections commitee together to find out what the fock happened there?

Oh, they're not. This isn't a political stunt in the least. 

Have fun watching the Farce TV show. Brought to you by nasty pelosi. The lady who turned down Trump's suggestion to build up the security at the capital that day.

 

DC was attacked on that they day, they were threatened, so they will go after who went after them.  They don't give a fock about the regular citizens that they are supposed to defend.  They only care about themselves.  All of them.

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56 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Also, the riots after Trump took over were worse. And so were the democrat backed  riots of 2020. They had real impact and still do. All Jan 6 has wrought is fever dreams for Libtards. 

What makes it worse than it really was is the fact that it was a government building.  That notches the severity of the event a little bit.  It's like punching some random dude in the face versus punching a cop in the face.

[Utilit99 4,099]

2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

What makes it worse than it really was is the fact that it was a government building.  That notches the severity of the event a little bit.  It's like punching some random dude in the face versus punching a cop in the face.

Liberal backed blm and antifa burned down a police station. More damage right there than anything done in the capital.. And that's just one thing of the summer of 2020 insurrections backed by liberals. 

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Just now, Utilit99 said:

Liberal backed blm and antifa burned down a police station. More damage right there than anything done in the capital.. And that's just one thing of the summer of 2020 insurrections backed by liberals. 

I am 100% in agreement with you that more should have been done with those riots.  Not going to disagree at all but that's not what we're talking about.  I think our nation's capitol is a little bigger deal than a local police station though.

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Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

I am 100% in agreement with you that more should have been done with those riots.  Not going to disagree at all but that's not what we're talking about.  I think our nation's capitol is a little bigger deal than a local police station though.

agreed.  And most normal people don't defend the riots and the looting, only the extreme left would do that.

Both the BLM/Antifa riots and Jan 6 were bad.  You can't compare one to another though.  The right tries to do this by saying more buildings were burned in the riots, the left says that the govt was almost overthrown.  Both arguments are disingenuous. 

Congress is making a big deal out of this because it's the Capitol, and secondarily they hate Trump.

The right wants to make a big deal out of the BLM riots because they hate BLM.

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I am 100% in agreement with you that more should have been done with those riots.  Not going to disagree at all but that's not what we're talking about.  I think our nation's capitol is a little bigger deal than a local police station though.

It wasn't just a single police station. Didn't you see the riots across multiple cities. People dying. Cops having molotov cocktails, rocks, cans of frozen drinks, stores looted and burned, and a shltload of products stolen along with people being put out of business?

If you seriously don't think the riots of 2020, which were whole heartedly back by multiple liberal politicians, were worse than what happened at the capital, then there is really no point going on with this. Just enjoy the farce that will take place prime time tonight. pelosi getting her hair done for the event. I hope she has everyone dressed in the right outfits. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

The fact that this thing is primetime tells you everything you need to know.

[TBayXXXVII 2,546]

16 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

DC was attacked on that they day, they were threatened, so they will go after who went after them.  They don't give a fock about the regular citizens that they are supposed to defend.  They only care about themselves.  All of them.

Let's say Trump won and the Democrats were on the side of the "Insurrection"... would the media have treated it the same way?

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9 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I am 100% in agreement with you that more should have been done with those riots.  Not going to disagree at all but that's not what we're talking about.  I think our nation's capitol is a little bigger deal than a local police station though.

I absolutely think the inverse. I think it’s 1000 times worse that you burn down your neighbors business cause you don’t like something the police did. At least these idiots went to the root of the problem with their protests and didn’t burn down my house 

fock the govt

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1 hour ago, avoiding injuries said:

Sorry if already posted, but they’re going after Jack Del Rio for saying it like it is…
 

 

One of my favorite Vikings. 

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11 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

agreed.  And most normal people don't defend the riots and the looting, only the extreme left would do that.

Both the BLM/Antifa riots and Jan 6 were bad.  You can't compare one to another though.  The right tries to do this by saying more buildings were burned in the riots, the left says that the govt was almost overthrown.  Both arguments are disingenuous. 

Congress is making a big deal out of this because it's the Capitol, and secondarily they hate Trump.

The right wants to make a big deal out of the BLM riots because they hate BLM.

If you don’t hate BLM you’re a complete moron

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8 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

The fact that this thing is primetime tells you everything you need to know.

The fact that majority of the people here think that these hearings are going to be focused on the 'riot' tells me everything I need to know.

[Utilit99 4,099]

2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I absolutely think the inverse. I think it’s 1000 times worse that you burn down your neighbors business cause you don’t like something the police did. At least these idiots went to the root of the problem with their protests and didn’t burn down my house 

fock the govt

Or your business. Spot on. It's way worse. Having politicians fan the flames of civil unrest in multiple states/cities at one time across the country is traitorous. $2B in damages and people dead and others lives destroyed. And the conclusion was to defund the police and that added to the tragedy. We all know what came out of the defund the police experiment.

If pelosi only took Trump's suggestion to stock up on security this whole event at the capital would never have come about. But as we know, if Trump told them to do something they do the opposite. 

 

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The media is already starting to back track and refer to it as the "January 6th Riots".  It's almost like they know what the results of these hearings will be.

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29 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

What makes it worse than it really was is the fact that it was a government building.  That notches the severity of the event a little bit.  It's like punching some random dude in the face versus punching a cop in the face.

Lots of government buildings have been either attacked or occupied over the years.  Still, symbolically I get your point when it is the nation's capital rather than a local police station, a municipal center, or a statehouse or capital.  It does seem to carry greater import.

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19 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Let's say Trump won and the Democrats were on the side of the "Insurrection"... would the media have treated it the same way?

CNN and MSNBC?  No.  Foxnews and Newsmax would be crying about it.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

34 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

What makes it worse than it really was is the fact that it was a government building.  That notches the severity of the event a little bit.  It's like punching some random dude in the face versus punching a cop in the face.

So the federal courthouse in Portland doesn’t count? And the ICE facility? And the fire bombing of police cars? And the fires set in police stations ? And others? 

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So the federal courthouse in Portland doesn’t count? And the ICE facility? And the fire bombing of police cars? And the fires set in police stations ? And others? 

Of course they do.  It's like you are trying to make up an argument that no one else is having.  It all matters.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

Just keep in mind, the government was never in danger of being overthrown. The business of the government resumed later that day, in the Capitol. If you can’t show Trump was behind an attempt to forcibly overthrow the government, this is a political stunt. Nothing more. The perps have been arrested and charged. 

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25 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

The fact that this thing is primetime tells you everything you need to know.

Yup.

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1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Of course they do.  It's like you are trying to make up an argument that no one else is having.  It all matters.

You think one matters more. I don’t. I think they all matter,  but one is being undersold, and the other is being oversold. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

This will be like a prime time Geraldo Rivera show about the live opening of Al Capone's vault in Chicago. 

Same outcome too. 

Or maybe closer to the witch hunt trials.

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

You think one matters more. I don’t. I think they all matter,  but one is being undersold, and the other is being oversold. 

The national capitol carries more significance.  There is absolutely no arguing that.  Does it make it more important that all the other buildings in the grand scheme of things?  No.  That's not what I have been debating.  Engorgeous George seems to be the only one that understands what the hell I'm talking about.  You can't see that I'm not disagreeing with you.

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

The national capitol carries more significance.  There is absolutely no arguing that.  Does it make it more important that all the other buildings in the grand scheme of things?  No.  That's not what I have been debating.  Engorgeous George seems to be the only one that understands what the hell I'm talking about.  You can't see that I'm not disagreeing with you.

Government is not more significant than the people it governs. And politicians should be the first to say that. Although, they don't live that way. They place themselves above the people.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

The national capitol carries more significance.  There is absolutely no arguing that.  Does it make it more important that all the other buildings in the grand scheme of things?  No.  That's not what I have been debating.  Engorgeous George seems to be the only one that understands what the hell I'm talking about.  You can't see that I'm not disagreeing with you.

I’ll argue it.  I don’t think anyones safety is more important  than another’s. When someone or a group harms another, they all should be prosecuted as much as the law calls for. This did not happen. Argue that. You seem to think I don’t believe the mob from Jan 6 should be punished. 

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3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

The national capitol carries more significance.  There is absolutely no arguing that.  Does it make it more important that all the other buildings in the grand scheme of things?  No.  That's not what I have been debating.  Engorgeous George seems to be the only one that understands what the hell I'm talking about.  You can't see that I'm not disagreeing with you.

Of course I am a bit of a loon, but yes, I take your points and those who do not are unlikely ever to do so for partisan reasons.  Your difficulty being heard is that you speak from the rational, objective middle.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

Just now, Engorgeous George said:

Of course I am a bit of a loon, but yes, I take your points and those who do not are unlikely ever to do so for partisan reasons.  Your difficulty being heard is that you speak from the rational, objective middle.  

It’s rational and objective to not charge certain people for crimes, but to charge others? Medieval times are calling. It’s for you. 

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2 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Government is not more significant than the people it governs. And politicians should be the first to say that. Although, they don't live that way. They place themselves above the people.

Being a servant of the People" is a great way to keep from being one of the people. Who would want that.  One does the screwing, the other gets screwed, but sloppily and without release.

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’ll argue it.  I don’t think anyones safety is more important  than another’s. When someone or a group harms another, they all should be prosecuted as much as the law calls for. This did not happen. Argue that. You seem to think I don’t believe the mob from Jan 6 should be punished. 

I wasn't even talking about personal safety in this specific discussion, but argue away.

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s rational and objective to not charge certain people for crimes, but to charge others? Medieval times are calling. It’s for you. 

Hello, is this the Medieval Times?  The damn paperboy threw my paper on the roof again.  Let me speak to the manager.

[RLLD 4,231]

This little mockery of a hearing should solidify the hardest left of the base for the Democrats, whether or not it might sway centrists in a way to help their position for this November is more difficult to imagine. I cannot be sure if they hope to salvage this years elections or ding Trump.  My god they fear that man.....