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11 minutes ago, dogcows said:

I guess a million people dying from a pandemic, 10% unemployment, and all the cities burning to the ground (as you and the right-wingers claim constantly) during the Trump years is “better” than now. You’ve got some weird standards of what you consider a better life.

Liberal cities. President doesn’t control those. More people died from Covid under pedo Joe. And now you think unemployment was trumps fault?  Trumps only fault was not firing Fauci 

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10 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Liberal cities. President doesn’t control those. More people died from Covid under pedo Joe. And now you think unemployment was trumps fault?  Trumps only fault was not firing Fauci 

If something bad happens when Trump is president, it’s not his fault.

If something bad happens when Biden is president, it is his fault. 

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10 minutes ago, dogcows said:

If something bad happens when Trump is president, it’s not his fault.

If something bad happens when Biden is president, it is his fault. 

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No. If something bad happens because of the presidents policy then it’s their fault 

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49 minutes ago, dogcows said:

If something bad happens when Trump is president, it’s not his fault.

If something bad happens when Biden is president, it is his fault. 

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Nope, Trump focked up caving in and signing that massive spending bill near the end of his term. Biden hasn't NOT focked up since he's been in office. Big difference. 

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1 hour ago, dogcows said:

I guess a million people dying from a pandemic, 10% unemployment, and all the cities burning to the ground (as you and the right-wingers claim constantly) during the Trump years is “better” than now. You’ve got some weird standards of what you consider a better life.

Might not be wise to tout a star that was worse under Biden as some proof. Biden has more control over inflation than Trump did over Covid. 
we know trump did it right since we now know the dens had the pharma folks delay the vaccine to ensure trump did not get credit

if you think we were not better you are out of your forking mind 

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1 hour ago, dogcows said:

If something bad happens when Trump is president, it’s not his fault.

If something bad happens when Biden is president, it is his fault. 

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Now do Ukraine. 

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1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Liberal cities. President doesn’t control those. More people died from Covid under pedo Joe. And now you think unemployment was trumps fault?  Trumps only fault was not firing Fauci 

Yep have to believe that these people actually believe this bullish!t they are saying…..I mean, wow, just wow…..

the level of outright stupidity to not be able to see reality is staggering

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1 hour ago, dogcows said:

If something bad happens when Trump is president, it’s not his fault.

If something bad happens when Biden is president, it is his fault. 

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It’s the same with every President. 

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15 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Baloney. That's a huge stretch, and MAGA is going to blame Biden when gas prices go up again. He's trying to keep prices down. Of course, MAGA twists that into something political and impeachable. Totally different what he did than extortion to dig up dirt on a political opponent.

 

14 hours ago, dogcows said:

Forget the violent attack on the Capitol of your country. Biden tried to keep gas prices low by negotiating with OPEC, so impeach him!

Forget what I said about Herschel Walker being too stupid to represent Republicans. He’s a perfect representative for GOP voters. 

Biden asked for 30 days which is coincidentally just after the midterms.  Does that seem like an odd duration?  Will that have a noticeable long-term effect?

And then when told no thanks, he threatened our entire relationship with the Saudis.

Worth at least a look-see?  Trump was impeached for wanting to look into the shady deals with Burisma, which anyone with two brain cells to rub together knew something shady was going on.  Is this Saudi thing not worth similar consideration?

I'd appreciate your moderate opinions on this.  :cheers:

 

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5 hours ago, jerryskids said:

 

Biden asked for 30 days which is coincidentally just after the midterms.  Does that seem like an odd duration?  Will that have a noticeable long-term effect?

And then when told no thanks, he threatened our entire relationship with the Saudis.

Worth at least a look-see?  Trump was impeached for wanting to look into the shady deals with Burisma, which anyone with two brain cells to rub together knew something shady was going on.  Is this Saudi thing not worth similar consideration?

I'd appreciate your moderate opinions on this.  :cheers:

 

Ask yourself whom the Saudi move benefits. For starters, it benefits Russia. Why did the Saudis announce this move so close to the election? 

They know pump prices will rise, and we're already seeing that. After seeing prices below $3 a gallon around here, they're at around $3.30 today.

Who benefits from gas prices spiking just before this election?

Saudis are making a doosh move, right before our elections and right before winter in Europe.

What would you do if you were Biden?

Him reacting with the arms threat makes sense and is no way the same as threatening to withhold military aid to Ukraine unless they cough up dirt on Trump's political opponent and his family.

If it were me, I'd pull aid to the Saudis and do whatever necessary to ramp up production in our own country and put aside the green-energy agenda until this sh!t settles out.

Drill, baby, drill!

I liked how Trump responded to the Saudis when they glutted the market. He stood his ground, and we kicked their ass on that one, if memory serves me.

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Biden messed with our energy supply, when it was doing fine, and completely focked it up. Now look at him. And us.  

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7 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Ask yourself whom the Saudi move benefits. For starters, it benefits Russia. Why did the Saudis announce this move so close to the election? 

They know pump prices will rise, and we're already seeing that. After seeing prices below $3 a gallon around here, they're at around $3.30 today.

Who benefits from gas prices spiking just before this election?

Saudis are making a doosh move, right before our elections and right before winter in Europe.

What would you do if you were Biden?

Him reacting with the arms threat makes sense and is no way the same as threatening to withhold military aid to Ukraine unless they cough up dirt on Trump's political opponent and his family.

If it were me, I'd pull aid to the Saudis and do whatever necessary to ramp up production in our own country and put aside the green-energy agenda until this sh!t settles out.

Drill, baby, drill!

I liked how Trump responded to the Saudis when they glutted the market. He stood his ground, and we kicked their ass on that one, if memory serves me.

Biden called Saudi the pariah, then goes begging them for help.  He brought this on himself, he also drained oil reserves and cut off futures in this country.  We were net exporters before he was in office

maybe people should wake up and vote for what helps THIS COUNTRY

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4 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Ask yourself whom the Saudi move benefits. For starters, it benefits Russia. Why did the Saudis announce this move so close to the election? 

They know pump prices will rise, and we're already seeing that. After seeing prices below $3 a gallon around here, they're at around $3.30 today.

Who benefits from gas prices spiking just before this election?

Saudis are making a doosh move, right before our elections and right before winter in Europe.

What would you do if you were Biden?

Him reacting with the arms threat makes sense and is no way the same as threatening to withhold military aid to Ukraine unless they cough up dirt on Trump's political opponent and his family.

If it were me, I'd pull aid to the Saudis and do whatever necessary to ramp up production in our own country and put aside the green-energy agenda until this sh!t settles out.

Drill, baby, drill!

I liked how Trump responded to the Saudis when they glutted the market. He stood his ground, and we kicked their ass on that one, if memory serves me.

Mostly I just love watching yourself to twist yourself in defense of Biden while maintaining yourself as a moderate.  But to your points:

- For starters, it helps the Saudis.

- What makes you think they sitting there asking themselves what world prices they can set to benefit the US?  Or a US election?  That's quite a bit of 'murcan hubris there Rusty.

- Doosh move, see above.

If I read your post correctly, you are saying that Biden is justified in performing an impeachable offense because you believe the Saudi's are intentionally NOT increasing supply to make Biden and the Dems lose?  If so, do you even think about these things before you type them, or is this what the MSM is pushing today?  

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5 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Mostly I just love watching yourself to twist yourself in defense of Biden while maintaining yourself as a moderate.  But to your points:

- For starters, it helps the Saudis.

- What makes you think they sitting there asking themselves what world prices they can set to benefit the US?  Or a US election?  That's quite a bit of 'murcan hubris there Rusty.

- Doosh move, see above.

If I read your post correctly, you are saying that Biden is justified in performing an impeachable offense because you believe the Saudi's are intentionally NOT increasing supply to make Biden and the Dems lose?  If so, do you even think about these things before you type them, or is this what the MSM is pushing today?  

You read too much Ben Shapiro. He isn't committing an impeachable offense by reacting to a Saudi move that will negatively impact the United States and the rest of the world while benefitting Russia and driving up prices to benefit themselves. Only ultraconservative weirdos are trying to stretch this into an impeachable offense. 

He's being president. He's doing his job.

Clownzo wasn't reacting. He was extorting another country for his own political gain, and he got impeached for it.

I gave props to how he reacted to the Saudis glutting the market. I also advocated more production. That's a right-wing view, which you can't acknowledge.

There is nothing Biden does that would get props from a MAGAtard.

 

 

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Every other non idiot that’s not compromised in history would just counter what opec + (+=Russia) has done and just said that we are upping our domestic production. But he’s compromised and an idiot. So here we are. 

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11 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

You read too much Ben Shapiro. He isn't committing an impeachable offense by reacting to a Saudi move that will negatively impact the United States and the rest of the world while benefitting Russia and driving up prices to benefit themselves. Only ultraconservative weirdos are trying to stretch this into an impeachable offense. 

He's being president. He's doing his job.

Clownzo wasn't reacting. He was extorting another country for his own political gain, and he got impeached for it.

I gave props to how he reacted to the Saudis glutting the market. I also advocated more production. That's a right-wing view, which you can't acknowledge.

There is nothing Biden does that would get props from a MAGAtard.

 

 

What did Biden accomplish?  He complained to the Saudis and they did nothing about it other than tell the whole world he complained and it accomplished nothing.  Gas prices going up again is the result of Biden as President.  Biden should read a book titled The Art of the Deal.  Boom! Pow! Sucka

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Biden only cares about keeping the price down so he can maintain his own power. He doesn’t give two shites about the people that have to pay for it. Not one bit. Nobody lies as much as Biden does if power isn’t his primary goal. And the goal of his masters. He doesn’t care about the people. He wouldn’t have to tell you how much he does if he did. He would show it.  

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1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said:

You read too much Ben Shapiro. He isn't committing an impeachable offense by reacting to a Saudi move that will negatively impact the United States and the rest of the world while benefitting Russia and driving up prices to benefit themselves. Only ultraconservative weirdos are trying to stretch this into an impeachable offense. 

He's being president. He's doing his job.

Clownzo wasn't reacting. He was extorting another country for his own political gain, and he got impeached for it.

I gave props to how he reacted to the Saudis glutting the market. I also advocated more production. That's a right-wing view, which you can't acknowledge.

There is nothing Biden does that would get props from a MAGAtard.

 

 

I'm interested to hear if you (1) watch Shapiro, or (2) puppet what your MSM masters are telling you.

Regardless, cmon... not just a little look-see into it?  It's so outside of the realm of possibility that it is beyond consideration?  As a reminder, Trump with Burisma buying off Hunter is the bar.  :cheers: 

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12 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I'm interested to hear if you (1) watch Shapiro, or (2) puppet what your MSM masters are telling you.

Regardless, cmon... not just a little look-see into it?  It's so outside of the realm of possibility that it is beyond consideration?  As a reminder, Trump with Burisma buying off Hunter is the bar.  :cheers: 

There's that clichéd MSM label. I read everything. 

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15 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

There's that clichéd MSM label. I read everything. 

So what do you think, maybe just an eentsy weentsy probe? 

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Just now, jerryskids said:

So what do you think, maybe just an eentsy weentsy probe? 

Your probe is eentsy weentsy.

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36 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Your probe is eentsy weentsy.

But it spins! 

Also, I'll take that as a "no".

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8 hours ago, jerryskids said:

 

Biden asked for 30 days which is coincidentally just after the midterms.  Does that seem like an odd duration?  Will that have a noticeable long-term effect?

And then when told no thanks, he threatened our entire relationship with the Saudis.

Worth at least a look-see?  Trump was impeached for wanting to look into the shady deals with Burisma, which anyone with two brain cells to rub together knew something shady was going on.  Is this Saudi thing not worth similar consideration?

I'd appreciate your moderate opinions on this.  :cheers:

 

I linked in the Biden thread at least one specific law Trump broke regarding Ukraine. People didn’t want to click it since it was on an NBC server, so here’s the original tweet from the GAO. (If the link in the tweet doesn’t work: https://www.gao.gov/assets/b-331564.pdf )

TLDR? The law required Trump to disburse the funds authorized by Congress. He failed to do so, in order to gain political advantage.

If Biden negotiated (and failed) to get the Saudis to delay production cuts, what law(s) did he break? As far as I know, he didn’t spend any government money illegally or fail to disburse funds required by law. He simply negotiated, and if true, in a way that would lead to political advantage. It happens every day. The difference is that Trump broke a law in the course of his negotiations.

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3 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Ask yourself whom the Saudi move benefits. For starters, it benefits Russia. Why did the Saudis announce this move so close to the election? 

They know pump prices will rise, and we're already seeing that. After seeing prices below $3 a gallon around here, they're at around $3.30 today.

Who benefits from gas prices spiking just before this election?

Saudis are making a doosh move, right before our elections and right before winter in Europe.

What would you do if you were Biden?

Him reacting with the arms threat makes sense and is no way the same as threatening to withhold military aid to Ukraine unless they cough up dirt on Trump's political opponent and his family.

If it were me, I'd pull aid to the Saudis and do whatever necessary to ramp up production in our own country and put aside the green-energy agenda until this sh!t settles out.

Drill, baby, drill!

I liked how Trump responded to the Saudis when they glutted the market. He stood his ground, and we kicked their ass on that one, if memory serves me.

The timing aspect: it was the Saudis who chose the timing of this production cut, not Biden.

Anybody who takes a moment to view this from a non-American lens will see that this has much more to do with Saudis supporting their allies: Russia. This will be a huge help to Russia’s war effort.

If America and the EU do not retaliate, then the Saudis can help Russia’s invasion with no consequences. Something will need to be done. Stopping arms sales might be one thing. Supporting Iran would be terrible for the Saudis, but we can’t do that since Iran is just as bad, if not worse, than the Saudis. The options are limited; I’m guessing stopping arms sales will be the tactic they go with.

Right-wingers will bank on the ignorance of the Fox News audience and ignore it all in favor of “muh impeachment!”

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21 minutes ago, dogcows said:

I linked in the Biden thread at least one specific law Trump broke regarding Ukraine. People didn’t want to click it since it was on an NBC server, so here’s the original tweet from the GAO. (If the link in the tweet doesn’t work: https://www.gao.gov/assets/b-331564.pdf )

TLDR? The law required Trump to disburse the funds authorized by Congress. He failed to do so, in order to gain political advantage.

If Biden negotiated (and failed) to get the Saudis to delay production cuts, what law(s) did he break? As far as I know, he didn’t spend any government money illegally or fail to disburse funds required by law. He simply negotiated, and if true, in a way that would lead to political advantage. It happens every day. The difference is that Trump broke a law in the course of his negotiations.

I see your hand and raise you a NYT article on the first impeachment:

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Three constitutional scholars invited by Democrats to testify at the first impeachment hearing before the House Judiciary Committee said that President Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine for political gain clearly met the historical definition of impeachable offenses.

 

Noah Feldman, a professor at Harvard, argued that attempts by Mr. Trump to withhold a White House meeting and military assistance from Ukraine as leverage for political favors constitute impeachable conduct, as was the act of soliciting foreign assistance on a phone call with Ukraine’s leader.

“President Trump has committed impeachable high crimes and misdemeanors by corruptly abusing the office of the presidency,” Mr. Feldman said. “Specifically, President Trump has abused his office by corruptly soliciting President Volodymyr Zelensky to announce investigations of his political rivals in order to gain personal advantage, including in the 2020 presidential election.”

Michael J. Gerhardt, a professor at the University of North Carolina, argued that Mr. Trump had “committed several impeachable offenses” by taking actions regarding Ukraine that were worse than Richard Nixon’s misconduct during Watergate.

“If left unchecked, the president will likely continue his pattern of soliciting foreign interference on his behalf in the next election,” Mr. Gerhardt said.

Pamela S. Karlan, a Stanford law professor, told lawmakers that the president’s attempt to “strong arm a foreign leader” would not be considered politics as usual by historical standards.

“It is, instead, a cardinal reason why the Constitution contains an impeachment power,” she said. “If we are to keep faith with the Constitution and our Republic, President Trump must be held to account.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/04/us/politics/impeachment-hearings.html

There's more, feel free to click through and read. :cheers:

 

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3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I see your hand and raise you a NYT article on the first impeachment:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/04/us/politics/impeachment-hearings.html

There's more, feel free to click through and read. :cheers:

 

I’m familiar with all of it; I watched the hearings at the time.  I’ve already read that exact article before.

What I don’t see are the parallels with Biden and the Saudis, for reasons I outlined above. This is just “‘Trump got impeached so Biden needs to get impeached too.” Nothing more.

Again, what law did Biden break? He didn’t strong-arm anybody. The right wing media and politicians DESPERATELY want this to be the same. It’s not even close.

Just to hit an obvious difference: regardless of the timing, keeping oil prices down benefits all Americans. Getting “dirt” on a rival politician only benefits your political campaign.

Consider that it was the Saudis who decreased the production, one month before elections. One could say they are the ones attempting to interfere in an election… But even that seems unlikely (at least to be the only reason). They are trying to help out Russia at a critical moment. Any delay in production cuts would hurt Russia and help Ukraine.

I’m sure these facts won’t stop Republicans if they take the House. Many already said they’d impeach Biden before without having any basis. 

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14 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I see your hand and raise you a NYT article on the first impeachment:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/04/us/politics/impeachment-hearings.html

There's more, feel free to click through and read. :cheers:

 

Biden isn't going to face impeachment for responding to the Saudi move to cut production. You just got engorged over some far-right podcast. :cheers:

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22 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I see your hand and you a NYT article on the first impeachment:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/04/us/politics/impeachment-hearings.html

There's more, feel free to click through and read. :cheers:

 

Whatever. Truth is Trump was not trying to gain politically but was concerned about improper Biden dealings with Ukraine.  And now Biden is President, Ukraine is at war and the United States is spending $60 billion plus (Taxpayer money) fighting a proxy war with Russia on land in Ukraine.

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3 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

Whatever. Truth is Trump was not trying to gain politically but was concerned about improper Biden dealings with Ukraine.  And now Biden is President, Ukraine is at war and the United States is spending $60 billion plus (Taxpayer money) fighting a proxy war with Russia on land in Ukraine.

Spot on.

These idiots like rusty and whoever this dog person is, they are exactly like everybody they hate on the right. Only, they are the left version. It's really sad that they don't see it.

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23 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

Whatever. Truth is Trump was not trying to gain politically but was concerned about improper Biden dealings with Ukraine.  And now Biden is President, Ukraine is at war and the United States is spending $60 billion plus (Taxpayer money) fighting a proxy war with Russia on land in Ukraine.

Trump was “concerned” about Biden and Ukraine? He wasn’t trying to politically gain? The same guy who called the Sec of State of Georgia and told him to “find” 11 thousand votes? Thanks for the laugh.

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6 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Trump was “concerned” about Biden and Ukraine? He wasn’t trying to politically gain? The same guy who called the Sec of State of Georgia and told him to “find” 11 thousand votes? Thanks for the laugh.

11 thousand fraudulent votes. Bit of a difference. You guys always have to lie. 

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22 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

11 thousand fraudulent votes. Bit of a difference. You guys always have to lie. 

Muh fraud. 😪

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Personally, I don't think trying to get a country to postpone an announcement until after an election and retaliating against them when the don't cave comes very close to qualifying as "high crimes and misdemeanors" but, compared to other impeachable "offenses" we've seen, it is worse than lying about a blow job, investigating a corrupt business deal overseas, or holding a rally that got out of hand.

 Impeachment has become an unserious joke and is just standard fare when the House of Representatives is controlled by the opposition party now. Besides, what Biden* did was slightly worse than the other three nothingburger impeachments. At least Biden's* "offense" registers a momentary blip of inappropriateness.  So maybe dumbass Biden* deserves to be impeached anyway so he can join the club. In the end though, that can of worms is dangerous to open, the Dems want an excuse to throw him under the bus anyway, maybe the GOP will give it to them, and its just so scary to think of Border Tsar Harris as president.

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20 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Personally, I don't think trying to get a country to postpone an announcement until after an election and retaliating against them when the don't cave comes very close to qualifying as "high crimes and misdemeanors" but, compared to other impeachable "offenses" we've seen, it is worse than lying about a blow job, investigating a corrupt business deal overseas, or holding a rally that got out of hand.

 Impeachment has become an unserious joke and is just standard fare when the House of Representatives is controlled by the opposition party now. Besides, what Biden* did was slightly worse than the other three nothingburger impeachments. At least Biden's* "offense" registers a momentary blip of inappropriateness.  So maybe dumbass Biden* deserves to be impeached anyway so he can join the club. In the end though, that can of worms is dangerous to open, the Dems want an excuse to throw him under the bus anyway, maybe the GOP will give it to them, and its just so scary to think of Border Tsar Harris as president.

Biden's role in the US has been bullshlt since forever. Oh, and I didn't care if Clinton lied about a BJ, I do care, a lot, that he did it under oath. 

 

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10 hours ago, dogcows said:

I’m familiar with all of it; I watched the hearings at the time.  I’ve already read that exact article before.

What I don’t see are the parallels with Biden and the Saudis, for reasons I outlined above. This is just “‘Trump got impeached so Biden needs to get impeached too.” Nothing more.

Again, what law did Biden break? He didn’t strong-arm anybody. The right wing media and politicians DESPERATELY want this to be the same. It’s not even close.

Just to hit an obvious difference: regardless of the timing, keeping oil prices down benefits all Americans. Getting “dirt” on a rival politician only benefits your political campaign.

Consider that it was the Saudis who decreased the production, one month before elections. One could say they are the ones attempting to interfere in an election… But even that seems unlikely (at least to be the only reason). They are trying to help out Russia at a critical moment. Any delay in production cuts would hurt Russia and help Ukraine.

I’m sure these facts won’t stop Republicans if they take the House. Many already said they’d impeach Biden before without having any basis. 

He overtly said there will be consequences for US relations with Saudi Arabia.  Are you just typing random excuses at this point?

And it wasn't just the Saudis, it was all of OPEC+.  For a person who likes to demand proof even when none is possible, you seem quick to convict them.

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Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Faisal bin Farhan said the OPEC+ decision was purely economic and was taken unanimously by its member states.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-president-biden-re-evaluating-relationship-with-saudi-after-opec-decision-2022-10-11/

Again, I'm not saying Biden is guilty.  I'm saying that by the bar set for Trump, it's worth a little investigation. You have concluded there is absolutely no reason to investigate, I think because he didn't try to withhold money from Saud Arabia.  Good logic, that should cut back on future impeachments.  :thumbsup: 

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Perhaps Biden should return to Saudi Arabia and smear the contents of his Depends on the walls of the Great Mosque of Mecca like the riotous MAGAtards did in the Capitol on Jan. 6.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-trump-capitol-riot-poopers-20210107-prlsqytyabgdhnexushotl4nam-story.html

Now THAT might be an impeachable offense!

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5 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Perhaps Biden should return to Saudi Arabia and smear the contents of his Depends on the walls of the Great Mosque of Mecca like the riotous MAGAtards did in the Capitol on Jan. 6.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-trump-capitol-riot-poopers-20210107-prlsqytyabgdhnexushotl4nam-story.html

Now THAT might be an impeachable offense!

I’m so sorry your trauma lingers over the events of Jan 6. Congress should provide funding for counseling for those affected. I wish you luck on your journey towards healing. 

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1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

He overtly said there will be consequences for US relations with Saudi Arabia.  Are you just typing random excuses at this point?

And it wasn't just the Saudis, it was all of OPEC+.  For a person who likes to demand proof even when none is possible, you seem quick to convict them.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-president-biden-re-evaluating-relationship-with-saudi-after-opec-decision-2022-10-11/

Again, I'm not saying Biden is guilty.  I'm saying that by the bar set for Trump, it's worth a little investigation. You have concluded there is absolutely no reason to investigate, I think because he didn't try to withhold money from Saud Arabia.  Good logic, that should cut back on future impeachments.  :thumbsup: 

First, you have to have a crime before you have an investigation. 

Second, the only source claiming Biden asked only for a month wait on the production costs….. The Saudis. Also, if you want to get into the weeds, a month extension from Oct 5 would have put the production cut announcement just a few days before the election, which would have been last-minute bad news for the Democrats, possibly a disaster for the election. When one starts to look at the details and actually think about it, it makes less and less sense.

So no, there should be no investigation because there’s no alleged crime, and the imagined political advantage would actually have been a liability instead.

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1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Faisal bin Farhan said the OPEC+ decision was purely economic and was taken unanimously by its member states

Because the Saudis always tell the truth, right? I’m noticing that, so far, this entire “impeach Biden” movement hinges on taking the Saudis at their word without question. 

Here’s another side to the story:

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/commodities/oil-opec-output-cut-saudi-arabia-coerced-dissenters-white-house-2022-10?op=1

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4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’m so sorry your trauma lingers over the events of Jan 6. Congress should provide funding for counseling for those affected. I wish you luck on your journey towards healing. 

Jan. 6 remains a hot topic in this country. A committee hearing was conducted last week and included a vote to subpoena Clownzo to testify, with potential criminal charges looming in regard to his orchestration and subsequent non-action regarding that day. 

Meanwhile, no one but you gives a rat's ass about our Iraq War almost 20 years ago. It's relevant only for history books.

I follow current events, such as Jan. 6, while your butt hurt over an antiquated event remains. 

I used this on my sons when they were babies and had diaper rash.

Slather some of this on your poophole, and your Iraq War, like a miracle, will disappear.

 

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