wiffleball 4,640 Posted July 29, 2022 I'll take it. https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/28/politics/andrew-yang-forward-party-whitman-jolly/index.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted July 29, 2022 I have been following this and Andrew Yang for several years now. I have so many thoughts but can't find the effort to type that much so I will Cliff Notes. 1. I respect Yang because he is in this for the right reasons. I might disagree with him on a lot of things, but at least he thinks outside the box. 2. With that said last election cycle he started to "sell out" to the Democratic Party just to get votes and while it turned me off, I think its why he started this so-called party. He hated himself for having to bow down to some of the crazy left wing ideals going on currently. 3. With that said (again) the Forward Party is pretty much the old school Blue Dog Democrat Party. Much better than the current weirdo's, and my ears are peaked but I need to see where it goes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,480 Posted July 29, 2022 Go for it. Your vote will probably be flipped to Biden anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,266 Posted July 29, 2022 I'm in. Time to unite and end extremism. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted July 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: I'm in. Time to unite and end extremism. Good Lord. This is like Santa Clause wanting to cancel Christmas. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584 Posted July 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: I'm in. Time to unite and end extremism. Yang is extremism Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,335 Posted July 29, 2022 Quote The group cites issues including guns, climate change and abortion as those that could benefit from a moderate approach. Cool. 3 important issues. Now tell where you stand on each. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584 Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, SUXBNME said: Cool. 3 important issues. Now tell where you stand on each. Abortion til after birth no guns Throw all money at climate nonsense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,335 Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Yang is extremism So is Rustor...Seriously, how many of his kats have been smuggled across city lines? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,266 Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, SUXBNME said: So is Rustor...Seriously, how many of his kats have been smuggled across city lines? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill E. 666 Posted July 29, 2022 During the first debate in 2020 they asked if illegals should receive free healthcare and he raised his hand along with all the other liberals onstage. He showed me then that he was right where he belonged. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,335 Posted July 29, 2022 19 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: I knew it. You're no better than Sister Ping, you fukkin commie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,335 Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Abortion til after birth no guns Throw all money at climate nonsense Hopefully not on all three. They're supposed to be moderates with this "new" party, right? I doubt they will go down the road as your post said. (at least publicly, they won't) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584 Posted July 29, 2022 7 hours ago, SUXBNME said: Hopefully not on all three. They're supposed to be moderates with this "new" party, right? I doubt they will go down the road as your post said. (at least publicly, they won't) They can’t be moderate imo. Yang is woke as there is. And a socialist to boot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted July 29, 2022 This is all we need. Two liberal parties. Jeez, wake up to reality. Let's just pray November goes as is expected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584 Posted July 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, craftsman said: This is all we need. Two liberal parties. Jeez, wake up to reality. Let's just pray November goes as is expected. I will say there should be 4 parties republican democrat libertarian progressive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,237 Posted July 29, 2022 A real 3rd party would be great (i think) but there is no way the Rs and Ds ever let this happen. The new party would have to be able to pull enough moderate Rs and Ds out of their party and sign up us independents. I would join if it could weaken the 2 party system but after established, I would quit the party and go back to independent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,117 Posted July 29, 2022 11 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said: I'm in. Time to unite and end extremism. You could've just done that by voting Republican. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted July 29, 2022 You may recall I said that the Democrats are fomenting the creation of a third party This is a natural reaction to a party that has gone off the rails and is now so radical people of good character will move away Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted July 29, 2022 I don't care how many parties there are. I'm not voting for a liberal nut job. And currently, that is about the only kind of liberal there is these days. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,117 Posted July 29, 2022 11 hours ago, KSB2424 said: I have been following this and Andrew Yang for several years now. I have so many thoughts but can't find the effort to type that much so I will Cliff Notes. 1. I respect Yang because he is in this for the right reasons. I might disagree with him on a lot of things, but at least he thinks outside the box. 2. With that said last election cycle he started to "sell out" to the Democratic Party just to get votes and while it turned me off, I think its why he started this so-called party. He hated himself for having to bow down to some of the crazy left wing ideals going on currently. 3. With that said (again) the Forward Party is pretty much the old school Blue Dog Democrat Party. Much better than the current weirdo's, and my ears are peaked but I need to see where it goes. The Forward party won't end well. What's going to happen is that they'll take more from the Democrat party than from the Republican party and the Republican's will end up winning everything, which would be the best for this country... but that's besides the point. The point is, there's more people on the Left of the ledger in this country... at least that vote anyway. That's where Yang's party will pool from because the basic foundation of his party is "Big Government". The thing is, the Democrat party has gone so far left, that in order to gain traction, he's going to have to pull from the the right... but he can't because the right is not in favor of "Big Government". So, his best course of action would be to move further left to pull in some of the less extreme Democrats. When he does that, he'll lose his base. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted July 29, 2022 I disagree that the problem with the 2 major parties is that they cater to the fringes. I think the problem is that they have no solutions to the big issues that affect all Americans (wages, healthcare, the cost of housing and education). So they focus on wedge issues to keep their side fired up without actually doing anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted July 29, 2022 It’s the fringes that ruin the two party system. this will go away, for nothing else but the name. Imagine how annoying SNL is going to be once the first headline of “joe smith (F) Indiana” see they say screw Indiana! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,117 Posted July 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mungwater said: It’s the fringes that ruin the two party system. this will go away, for nothing else but the name. Imagine how annoying SNL is going to be once the first headline of “joe smith (F) Indiana” see they say screw Indiana! I see it as the Democrats need victims, so they create them and call every Republican names, to create a divide. They push further left until everyone on the right is considered "extreme". Clearly, people on this board are buying the crap they're selling. Are their extreme/fringe righties? Of course, but the number is extremely small and blown way out of proportion. I mean, if January 6th didn't prove that, I can't imagine what would. Come one, we literally had 3+ months and 10's of thousands of people terrorizing cities, buildings, and people (yet not called terrorists), and millions of dollars... then on January 6th, you had what liberals call terrorists, about 500 people and 8 hours of disorderly conduct at the cost of like $50k. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,646 Posted July 29, 2022 What policies from the fringe right actually become policy? I’m not denying the existence of the fringe right, but they don’t get any play. The far left actually sets the agenda. Saying it’s the same is just ignorant and a relic. MTG sits on no committees and is shunned. The squad has their hand in everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted July 29, 2022 53 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I see it as the Democrats need victims, so they create them and call every Republican names, to create a divide. They push further left until everyone on the right is considered "extreme". Clearly, people on this board are buying the crap they're selling. Are their extreme/fringe righties? Of course, but the number is extremely small and blown way out of proportion. I mean, if January 6th didn't prove that, I can't imagine what would. Come one, we literally had 3+ months and 10's of thousands of people terrorizing cities, buildings, and people (yet not called terrorists), and millions of dollars... then on January 6th, you had what liberals call terrorists, about 500 people and 8 hours of disorderly conduct at the cost of like $50k. $2B in insurance claims compared to the Nancy Pelosi's spare change jar in her kitchen. Liberals will not even talk about the comparison. I don't understand how they are not embarrassed by this whole made for TV drama they are putting on when everyone knows they are just a hate group at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,117 Posted July 29, 2022 20 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: What policies from the fringe right actually become policy? I’m not denying the existence of the fringe right, but they don’t get any play. The far left actually sets the agenda. Saying it’s the same is just ignorant and a relic. MTG sits on no committees and is shunned. The squad has their hand in everything. Exactly. It's like people just want to ignore what's in front of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted July 29, 2022 Readily available guns with few regulations, abortion effectively outlawed in several states, for profit healthcare, government surveillance, nonstop military action abroad, shrinking organized labor, record corporate profits etc. If the fringe left is in charge they’re doing a really bad job of setting policy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584 Posted July 29, 2022 14 minutes ago, MDC said: Readily available guns with few regulations, abortion effectively outlawed in several states, for profit healthcare, government surveillance, nonstop military action abroad, shrinking organized labor, record corporate profits etc. If the fringe left is in charge they’re doing a really bad job of setting policy! Those aren’t far right ideas. They have been right wing ideas my whole life. And you are wrong because the new republicans are the only anti war we have healthcare should be for profit. You think doctors should Work for free? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted July 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Those aren’t far right ideas. They have been right wing ideas my whole life. And you are wrong because the new republicans are the only anti war we have healthcare should be for profit. You think doctors should Work for free? If the fringe left is setting the agenda why is US policy on every major issue centrist/right? Trump spent his only term in office carpet bombing 6-7 counties at the same time. You have a very odd definition of “anti war.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584 Posted July 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, MDC said: If the fringe left is setting the agenda why is US policy on every major issue centrist/right? Trump spent his only term in office carpet bombing 6-7 counties at the same time. You have a very odd definition of “anti war.” Really? Finishing jobs we already started please list any country that trump took us into he had generals who lied to him and obviously were running the show then at the same time look how many peace accords occurred Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,646 Posted July 29, 2022 When Trump was dropping bombs he was scrutinized, as it should be. When Biden completely botched Afghanistan it was in and out of the news, the little that did get reported, in a flash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,646 Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, MDC said: Readily available guns with few regulations, abortion effectively outlawed in several states, for profit healthcare, government surveillance, nonstop military action abroad, shrinking organized labor, record corporate profits etc. If the fringe left is in charge they’re doing a really bad job of setting policy! Government surveillance is a far right thing? Really. Lol. What a clown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Really? Finishing jobs we already started please list any country that trump took us into he had generals who lied to him and obviously were running the show then at the same time look how many peace accords occurred Not just finishing them: Trump actually escalated Obummer’s overseas drone strikes. Link But the GOP is the anti war party and fringe lefties run the show now. FFS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584 Posted July 29, 2022 55 minutes ago, MDC said: Not just finishing them: Trump actually escalated Obummer’s overseas drone strikes. Link But the GOP is the anti war party and fringe lefties run the show now. FFS Obviously you don’t pay attention. Who is voting against funding Ukraine. Who is the ones telling nato to pay their fair share. Those are republicans stances. and yes when trump came in he had warhawks running the defense so of course that happened Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted July 29, 2022 18 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said: Time to unite and end extremism. Agreed. Won't happen though. Too much money to be made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted July 29, 2022 25 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Obviously you don’t pay attention. Who is voting against funding Ukraine. Who is the ones telling nato to pay their fair share. Those are republicans stances. and yes when trump came in he had warhawks running the defense so of course that happened You can be “anti war” while drone striking 7 countries? Oh-kay pal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted July 29, 2022 What about the Silly Party? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Vyse- 65 Posted July 29, 2022 20 hours ago, wiffleball said: I'll take it. https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/28/politics/andrew-yang-forward-party-whitman-jolly/index.html I actually really like him and would love to vote for him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites