Batgirl film will not see the light of day after shooting complete for $100ish million

[Horseman 2,687]

5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Ugh...  You didn't get what I was saying to HT then.  He does exactly what Gutter did often.  That was the point.

Perhaps it's deserved in one direction and just frustration in the other, it's my experience that Gutter has a hard time with comprehension.  Very hard time.

[Hawkeye21 2,457]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

Perhaps it's deserved in one direction and just frustration in the other, it's my experience that Gutter has a hard time with comprehension.  Very hard time.

I've found that with others here as well.

[GutterBoy 2,900]

4 minutes ago, Horseman said:

No, this is what I said.

You and Mooney ought to have a read-off to see who has the worst reading comprehension.  I mean you both teeter on the limits of illiteracy.

Forcing in a minority limited their hiring pool and I'm betting there were better actress out there.  Of course there are good Latina actresses: Salma Heyek, Eva Longoria, Penelope Cruz, etc.  Leslie Grace isn't on that list.  

You're contradicting yourself.  If there are plenty of food latina actresses then casting for one doesn't limit anything.

[Horseman 2,687]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

I've found that with others here as well.

Good for you.  Next time make sure it's warranted.  

[GutterBoy 2,900]

3 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Perhaps it's deserved in one direction and just frustration in the other, it's my experience that Gutter has a hard time with comprehension.  Very hard time.

Youre an extremely stupid person and also a piece of sh1t.  You say something sh1tty then try to explain it away using semantics but we all know what you mean.

[Horseman 2,687]

7 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

You're contradicting yourself.  If there are plenty of food latina actresses then casting for one doesn't limit anything.

You think all Latina actresses are fat!?!?!?!?!

Selma pulls 10 million per movie.  Leslie probably got around 1 million for Batgirl.  Plenty of good white actresses for 1 million.  Go woke go broke.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,340]

42 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Youre an extremely stupid person and also a piece of sh1t.  You say something sh1tty then try to explain it away using semantics but we all know what you mean.

You should probably sit this thread out.  You're getting your ass handed to you bigly.

It's clear that you can't read or comprehend basic sentences or meanings of words.  Maybe you should head over to the Weenie Hut Jr forums instead.  That's more your speed.

[nobody 2,926]

1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

Im not an accountant but I think if you take the 90m loss then that's 90m of revenue that you don't have to pay taxes on.  But again thats just an educated guess.

Isn't the corporate tax rate 20% these days.  20% of 90 is 18 million in savings.

Losing more than 18 to save 18 probably isn't a good business model.

[Horseman 2,687]

1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

Im not an accountant but I think if you take the 90m loss then that's 90m of revenue that you don't have to pay taxes on.  But again thats just an educated guess.

I wish.

[peenie 2,004]

On 8/2/2022 at 7:00 PM, phillybear said:

Marvel had been on a roll movie after movie, until they hit mud with Black Panther

It made 1.3 billion. Black Panther is one of its most successful films. 

[craftsman 1,045]

2 minutes ago, peenie said:

It made 1.3 billion. Black Panther is one of its most successful films. 

People get scammed into spending their money all the time. See BLM...

[Sean Mooney 2,057]

11 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I have read that many of them are. I don’t watch them. Are you going to claim none of them are now? 

So you've never seen a superhero movie but you read there are a bunch that are. It's clear you are not equipped for this discussion (like every other discussion you butt fumble your way through on here) so stand the fook back. 

I didn't say there are some that are or are not- just asked you to name ones you think are. 

11 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Mooney thinks it’s the anti woke that are the loudest. Corporations paying millions directly to woke organizations, the pro noun and the transgender crap you can’t get away from, a summer of riots. Any future riots, CRT in schools. Yeah, the woke are struggling to be heard. This is the world this guy sees. Insane. 

You asked the loudest and the least vocal- I still say the ones who don't care are the largest group. The people who are concerned about things being "too woke" are the loudest. "Struggling to be heard" and " the loudest" are too different categories. You know that but you do what you always do in trying to push multiple issues into one. 

11 hours ago, Horseman said:

You're done because you're wrong. Nothing left to do but run. 

Tell us exactly what you think constitutes "make more theatrical" or "make more apt for theaters".  Your own words from your tiny brain. Tell us exactly what that entails or GTFO.  

 

10 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

The reports coming out are diametrically opposed to your opinion.  People who have seen the pre-screening and testing all report that it was awful and cheap looking.

The only people suggesting it's bad because the actress is Latina is the Woke liberals trying to find a reason to pin something false on "the other side".  You either don't understand the "Get Woke, Go Broke" mantra because you're just not that bright or you're being purposefully obtuse.  Which is it?

So it has to fit your narrative too I see. Re-read the very first fooking sentence in the thread and then read all the posts by JustinCharge here on this board and then come back here and with a straight face try to make the argument that he is a "Woke liberal"

7 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

As @nobody and myself stated above:  Do you REALLY think they would've shitcanned this movie if the people at the screenings would've said it was a masterpiece?

In Hollywood, if your movie doesn't get released it's because it sucks.  In fact, it sucks so bad they believed that reshoots couldn't even save it.

 

Hollywood has never released a sh!t movie? That is quite the hot take. 

7 hours ago, nobody said:

That article at least makes a better case than the posters in this thread as a purely economical decision.

If the movie was made for HBO Max and was never intended for theatrical release, a new executive could just say fock it and write it off and then blame his predecessor for executing on the move and budget poorly.  The rationale will be that the potential growth in subscription revenue to HBO Max from the move wouldn't outweigh the tax benefits.  You'd probably need to grow HBO Max revenue by 30 million plus to get positive ROI.  That only works for a new exec though. 

My current estimate is that it's 68% that the movie sucked and 32% financial.

 

I literally made this case in the first post that it was far more about budgetary issues and specifically mentioned that the movie was made for HBO Max and not theaters and it would've cost them far more money to fix the look of the picture for theaters. 

[Horseman 2,687]

8 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

So you've never seen a superhero movie but you read there are a bunch that are. It's clear you are not equipped for this discussion (like every other discussion you butt fumble your way through on here) so stand the fook back. 

I didn't say there are some that are or are not- just asked you to name ones you think are. 

You asked the loudest and the least vocal- I still say the ones who don't care are the largest group. The people who are concerned about things being "too woke" are the loudest. "Struggling to be heard" and " the loudest" are too different categories. You know that but you do what you always do in trying to push multiple issues into one. 

So it has to fit your narrative too I see. Re-read the very first fooking sentence in the thread and then read all the posts by JustinCharge here on this board and then come back here and with a straight face try to make the argument that he is a "Woke liberal"

Hollywood has never released a sh!t movie? That is quite the hot take. 

I literally made this case in the first post that it was far more about budgetary issues and specifically mentioned that the movie was made for HBO Max and not theaters and it would've cost them far more money to fix the look of the picture for theaters. 

Random thoughts by midget brain.  

[MDC 8,047]

I wouldn’t mind watching a movie about a Latina in a latex costume. 

[craftsman 1,045]

6 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Random thoughts by midget brain.  

The guy seems a bit off. Only looking to try to get a win without keeping in mind of what he is arguing for. 

[craftsman 1,045]

4 minutes ago, MDC said:

I wouldn’t mind watching a movie about a Latina in a latex costume. 

Yolanda does Albuquerque? 

[MDC 8,047]

1 minute ago, craftsman said:

Yolanda does Albuquerque? 

Yolanda is a Greek name.

I have a great aunt Yola who is still golfing at age 90. She was probably a real hellcat back in the day …

[Sean Mooney 2,057]

14 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Random thoughts by midget brain.  

[craftsman 1,045]

2 minutes ago, MDC said:

Yolanda is a Greek name.

I have a great aunt Yola who is still golfing at age 90. She was probably a real hellcat back in the day …

I've known a couple girls named Yolanda who were first generation from Mexico. I really don't the origin of names though for the most part. 

What is the meaning of the name Yolanda? The name Yolanda is primarily a female name of Spanish origin that means Violet Flower.

[nobody 2,926]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

I literally made this case in the first post that it was far more about budgetary issues and specifically mentioned that the movie was made for HBO Max and not theaters and it would've cost them far more money to fix the look of the picture for theaters. 

Your post obfuscated the message at best.

[craftsman 1,045]

3 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

So you've never seen a superhero movie but you read there are a bunch that are. It's clear you are not equipped for this discussion (like every other discussion you butt fumble your way through on here) so stand the fook back. 

I didn't say there are some that are or are not- just asked you to name ones you think are. 

You asked the loudest and the least vocal- I still say the ones who don't care are the largest group. The people who are concerned about things being "too woke" are the loudest. "Struggling to be heard" and " the loudest" are too different categories. You know that but you do what you always do in trying to push multiple issues into one. 

So it has to fit your narrative too I see. Re-read the very first fooking sentence in the thread and then read all the posts by JustinCharge here on this board and then come back here and with a straight face try to make the argument that he is a "Woke liberal"

Hollywood has never released a sh!t movie? That is quite the hot take. 

I literally made this case in the first post that it was far more about budgetary issues and specifically mentioned that the movie was made for HBO Max and not theaters and it would've cost them far more money to fix the look of the picture for theaters. 

So the woke garbage flopped. Nice. 

[Sean Mooney 2,057]

8 hours ago, nobody said:

Your post obfuscated the message at best.

I'd say the insipid arguments made against my post obfuscated the message but fair enough. 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,007]

9 hours ago, craftsman said:

The guy seems a bit off. Only looking to try to get a win without keeping in mind of what he is arguing for. 

He gets over excited and can’t think straight. He’s a rager 

[peenie 2,004]

11 hours ago, craftsman said:

People get scammed into spending their money all the time. See BLM...

Did you see it? It was entertaining and certainly no worse than the billionty other super hero movies that have come out. 

[kutulu 1,722]

10 hours ago, craftsman said:

I've known a couple girls named Yolanda who were first generation from Mexico. I really don't the origin of names though for the most part. 

What is the meaning of the name Yolanda? The name Yolanda is primarily a female name of Spanish origin that means Violet Flower.

Yolanda, I thought you said you were gonna be cool. Now when you yell at me, it makes me nervous. And when I get nervous, I get scared. And when motherfockers get scared, that's when motherfockers accidentally get shot. 

[Sean Mooney 2,057]

22 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

He gets over excited and can’t think straight. He’s a rager 

Still waiting on you to list the superhero movies you think are woke. 

[MDC 8,047]

8 pages arguing about Batgirl.  

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,340]

11 hours ago, MDC said:

I wouldn’t mind watching a movie about a Latina in a latex costume. 

I think we finally found a way to bring us all together in agreement.  Good work, MDC. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,340]

49 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Still waiting on you to list the superhero movies you think are woke. 

Captain Marvel

Thor: Love and Thunder

Every Marvel and Star Wars Series on Disney+

 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,007]

52 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Still waiting on you to list the superhero movies you think are woke. 

Captain Marvel

Thor: Love and Thunder 

Every Marvel and Star Wars series on Disney +

[GutterBoy 2,900]

14 hours ago, nobody said:

Isn't the corporate tax rate 20% these days.  20% of 90 is 18 million in savings.

Losing more than 18 to save 18 probably isn't a good business model.

Again,. Not a corp accountant, neither are you, but I've been through m&a, and I believe there are some rules around taking the debt you acquired and using it for tax advantage, and eps advantage as well.  Since it's been discussed, I would have to assume it's real, unless they are trying to cover the fact they hired a Latino character which tanked the movie.

[Cloaca du jour 2,157]

How the hell is this 8 pages??  The usual suspects who argue like old jews and hags about politics.

[Sean Mooney 2,057]

56 minutes ago, MDC said:

8 pages arguing about Batgirl.  

Important social issues here on the GC 

54 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Captain Marvel

Thor: Love and Thunder

Every Marvel and Star Wars Series on Disney+

 

Are you HT's spokesperson?

Captain Marvel made like 1.1 billion worldwide.

Thor: Love and Thunder is at 670 million (second highest in that film series)...should get to 700 million. Less than the last one but the last one is highly regarded as one of the better films, and more fun ones in the MCU. This one has a different tone apparently.

The Marvel and Star Wars series are pretty much the most watched things on Disney+

 

So it ain't hurting them

[Hardcore troubadour 16,007]

6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Important social issues here on the GC 

Are you HT's spokesperson?

Captain Marvel made like 1.1 billion worldwide.

Thor: Love and Thunder is at 670 million (second highest in that film series)...should get to 700 million. Less than the last one but the last one is highly regarded as one of the better films, and more fun ones in the MCU. This one has a different tone apparently.

The Marvel and Star Wars series are pretty much the most watched things on Disney+

 

So it ain't hurting them

You asked what was woke, no mention of their box office performance. How is it that a teacher has such poor reading comprehension skills? 

[Sean Mooney 2,057]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You asked what was woke, no mention of their box office performance. How is it that a teacher has such poor reading comprehension skills? 

You did not name any films. You said "young men, and boys, target audience, dislike woke more than the ones who like it."

So yes- box office performance is tied into that. If the target audience hates woke why are they still turning out in droves to the movies and shows?

Now- this is where you spin your wheels for 12 posts or yell "Squirrel" and try to misdirect the conversation. So have fun. 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,007]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

You did not name any films. You said "young men, and boys, target audience, dislike woke more than the ones who like it."

So yes- box office performance is tied into that. If the target audience hates woke why are they still turning out in droves to the movies and shows?

Now- this is where you spin your wheels for 12 posts or yell "Squirrel" and try to misdirect the conversation. So have fun. 

 

Nonsense. You lose. 

[Sean Mooney 2,057]

14 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Nonsense. You lose. 

There are the wheels spinning. 

[Horseman 2,687]

33 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You asked what was woke, no mention of their box office performance. How is it that a teacher has such poor reading comprehension skills? 

It's his midget brain.  

Thor; Love and Thunder  

[phillybear 366]

14 hours ago, peenie said:

It made 1.3 billion. Black Panther is one of its most successful films. 

peenie, later in the thread, I clarified that I can't argue financial success, but a bad movie is a bad movie. 

Quote

Black Panther: hey, let's get a bunch of black celebrities and have them show up on set. So, has anyone seen the script? Wait, we need a script. Ah, fock it. Roll film.

The movie was directionless, really didn't make much sense, and made Killmonger the most sympathetic character in the movie by a mile. Visually, asthetically, cinematically, scenic, whatever artsy fartsy other words could be used, the movie was stunning to the eye. But it was in the mud otherwise. And you kill off the interesting Klaue character at the beginning. Why? He was interesting in Avengers Age of Ultron, and you could have gotten more out of him. In fact, did anybody but Killmonger even try to act in the move? Maybe Black Panther's sister. But everybody else was walking around dosed on sleeping pills. I thought it was a miss by Marvel. 

I fully understand that many will disagree. That's fine. I have an affinity to criticize movies/TV shows. 

[Horseman 2,687]

2 hours ago, phillybear said:

peenie, later in the thread, I clarified that I can't argue financial success, but a bad movie is a bad movie. 

The movie was directionless, really didn't make much sense, and made Killmonger the most sympathetic character in the movie by a mile. Visually, asthetically, cinematically, scenic, whatever artsy fartsy other words could be used, the movie was stunning to the eye. But it was in the mud otherwise. And you kill off the interesting Klaue character at the beginning. Why? He was interesting in Avengers Age of Ultron, and you could have gotten more out of him. In fact, did anybody but Killmonger even try to act in the move? Maybe Black Panther's sister. But everybody else was walking around dosed on sleeping pills. I thought it was a miss by Marvel. 

I fully understand that many will disagree. That's fine. I have an affinity to criticize movies/TV shows. 

I shut if off after the first 5 minutes.