NFL 2022

[Voltaire 5,523]

Lions -2.5 @  Carolina

Wash +6.5 @ SF

Giants +4.5 @ Minny

Seattle +9.5 @ KC

I don't care if they cover the spread or not, but I sure am rooting for the favorites to sweep

[Hardcore troubadour 16,037]

Damn you Fox. Fockin Mark Schlereth is calling the giants game. Volume low. Very low. 

[Reality 3,134]

49ers haven't lost in over 2 months. That's pretty cool.

[Bier Meister 1,774]

5 minutes ago, Reality said:

49ers haven't lost in over 2 months. That's pretty cool.

[MDC 8,087]

Tough to lose that was but 4 turnovers for n the road against a good team with a backup at QB and Philly still had the ball and a chance to win. Got to give Gardner Minshew a ton of credit. It wasn’t perfect or pretty but that was all you could have asked for out of your backup. 

[Big Guy 1,430]

Wow, great game!

I can't believe we actually won it even with the dangerous lack of fundamental football execution.

you guys own the point differential tie though

[Cruzer 1,996]

I don't want to hear anything about a Philly back up qb  - sure didn't hear any of that when they barely beat Dallas with Coop Rush at the helm. Dallas was decimated on the defensive side of the ball as well - solid win for sure.

That being said, Philly is clearly the better team. Their offensive line, secondary and coach are far superior to ours. I don't have the stats yet, but I will give a rundown of the BS idiocy K. Moore pulled off in this game later........ That dude is a clown. 

 

[cmh6476 1,154]

Who dey

[BeenHereBefore 1,669]

Baker looks like he found a home, so what do the Rams do next year with him and Stafford ?

[JustinCharge 2,397]

13 minutes ago, BeenHereBefore said:

Baker looks like he found a home, so what do the Rams do next year with him and Stafford ?

Baker will be a free agent at the end of the year but I think Baker is a good fit with the Rams and might be cheap so I could see the Rams offering to make him the backup with a chance at being QB1 if Stafford's spinal cord is toast, but the Rams will probably also draft a QB. Baker also as a say though and might prefer to chase a guaranteed QB1 spot elsewhere.  There's been a lot of smoke that Belichick wants Baker and it make sense from the standpoint that Belichick loves smart players and Baker has definitely shown that with an ability to pick up the playbook quickly.  Belichick even praised Baker out of the blue a couple of weeks ago for his intelligence.

https://nesn.com/2022/12/why-bill-belichick-compared-this-patriots-tackle-to-baker-mayfield/

Belichick said offensive tackle Conor McDermott, whom the Patriots signed off the New York Jets’ practice squad two weeks ago, has “picked things up well” since arriving in New England.

“About as good as you could expect for a player coming in like this,” the Patriots head coach said. “Maybe Mayfield, but it’s still pretty good.”

[BeenHereBefore 1,669]

2 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

Baker will be a free agent at the end of the year but I think Baker is a good fit with the Rams and might be cheap so I could see the Rams offering to make him the backup with a chance at being QB1 if Stafford's spinal cord is toast, but the Rams will probably also draft a QB. Baker also as a say though and might prefer to chase a guaranteed QB1 spot elsewhere.  There's been a lot of smoke that Belichick wants Baker and it make sense from the standpoint that Belichick loves smart players and Baker has definitely shown that with an ability to pick up the playbook quickly.  Belichick even praised Baker out of the blue a couple of weeks ago for his intelligence.

https://nesn.com/2022/12/why-bill-belichick-compared-this-patriots-tackle-to-baker-mayfield/

Belichick said offensive tackle Conor McDermott, whom the Patriots signed off the New York Jets’ practice squad two weeks ago, has “picked things up well” since arriving in New England.

“About as good as you could expect for a player coming in like this,” the Patriots head coach said. “Maybe Mayfield, but it’s still pretty good.”

I think McVay likes him and he stays there but could see BB wanting him and not happy with Mac.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

BTW, the Cowboys have won 10+ games in consecutive years.  That's the first time they've done that since 1995/1996 during the super bowl years.  They have a +100 point differential in consecutive years for the first time since 1994/1995.  The Cowboys have made the playoffs in consecutive years for the first time since 2006/2007.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Baker Mayfield got Hackett fired.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

with OBJ waiting until the playoffs to sign a deal and the league seemingly OK with that, it makes you wonder if that would become a trend.  why even bother playing regular season games?  when your contract is up, sit out until december, then sign a huge 1-year deal for a playoff run, then sit out until next december again.  maybe lots of WRs will try it.

[MDC 8,087]

17 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

with OBJ waiting until the playoffs to sign a deal and the league seemingly OK with that, it makes you wonder if that would become a trend.  why even bother playing regular season games?  when your contract is up, sit out until december, then sign a huge 1-year deal for a playoff run, then sit out until next december again.  maybe lots of WRs will try it.

I seriously doubt any team is going to sign OBJ this year much less let him play snaps in a postseason game after he sat all year.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

9 minutes ago, MDC said:

I seriously doubt any team is going to sign OBJ this year much less let him play snaps in a postseason game after he sat all year.

life is about trends.  nba players do load management now.  might spread to other sports.  WR seems like an obvious spot.

[MDC 8,087]

23 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

life is about trends.  nba players do load management now.  might spread to other sports.  WR seems like an obvious spot.

Load management is one thing. Signing a guy who hasn’t played in a year and giving him snaps for the first time in a playoff game is another. I don’t see it happening for OBJ this year.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

How many franchise QBs are currently in the NFL?

Josh Allen
Patrick Mahomes
Joe Burrow
Jalen Hurts
 

suspects:

Borderline:  Dak Prescott
Washed up? Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Russell Wilson, Derek Carr
injured / out of practice: Lamar Jackson, Matt Stafford, Deshaun Watson, Justin Herbert
too young:  Justin Fields, Trevor Lawrence, Brock Purdy

[listen2me 23 1,966]

2 hours ago, MDC said:

I seriously doubt any team is going to sign OBJ this year much less let him play snaps in a postseason game after he sat all year.

I could see it but not meaningful snaps.   

But it was funny how many people this year were clamoring for OBJ.  So and so SB contender.  It is like last year he wasn't very great but he did have a solid playoff I suppose.  Now off a blown knee...like what are we expecting?  People getting excited for a WR3?  He would probably still fit well with a experienced team and QB.  If his knee is fine.  But was never going to come in and make an impact after not playing for a year and blowing out his knee and getting thrown into a system.  He isn't that guy.

[MDC 8,087]

1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

I could see it but not meaningful snaps.   

But it was funny how many people this year were clamoring for OBJ.  So and so SB contender.  It is like last year he wasn't very great but he did have a solid playoff I suppose.  Now off a blown knee...like what are we expecting?  People getting excited for a WR3?  He would probably still fit well with an experienced team and QB.  If his knee is fine.  But was never going to come in and make an impact after not playing for a year and blowing out his knee and getting thrown into a system.  He isn't that guy.

If he signed with the Giants or Boys a few weeks ago he’d at least get his feet wet for a few games. No way a team is trotting him out in a playoff game for his first live game snaps. He’s not fully healthy and no longer good enough to justify that risk.

[listen2me 23 1,966]

2 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

with OBJ waiting until the playoffs to sign a deal and the league seemingly OK with that, it makes you wonder if that would become a trend.  why even bother playing regular season games?  when your contract is up, sit out until december, then sign a huge 1-year deal for a playoff run, then sit out until next december again.  maybe lots of WRs will try it.

This is a decent point.  But they will still lose money.  A lot of money.  Certain guys could fit this type of situation where it makes total sense fot them.  But the NFL doesn't rely on 1 WR let alone a 2nd 3rd type wr.  Teams would pass and wrs would be left with their pants on the ground.  

[listen2me 23 1,966]

Just now, MDC said:

If he signed with the Giants or Boys a few weeks ago he’d at least get his feet wet for a few games. No way a team is trotting him out in a playoff game for his first live game snaps. He’s not fully healthy and no longer good enough to justify that risk.

Buffalo was hammering on the door and Von Miller basically said he knows OBJ is going to end uo in Buffalo.  I never understood it.  It couldn't really hurt but people were getting too excited about the idea.  Odell is very okay now a days.  He isn't some talent that people are imagining.  

[JustinCharge 2,397]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

If he signed with the Giants or Boys a few weeks ago he’d at least get his feet wet for a few games. No way a team is trotting him out in a playoff game for his first live game snaps. He’s not fully healthy and no longer good enough to justify that risk.

how do you know how good he is right now?  in his last action, he was soaking up huge targets for the Rams in the playoffs and putting up big numbers.  He was absolutely going to be resigned by the Rams and locked in as WR2 until the injury.

[MDC 8,087]

2 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

how do you know how good he is right now?  in his last action, he was soaking up huge targets for the Rams in the playoffs and putting up big numbers.  He was absolutely going to be resigned by the Rams and locked in as WR2 until the injury.

Nobody knows how good OBJ is. That’s the point. No team is going to wait until the playoffs to find out. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

Nobody knows how good OBJ is. That’s the point. No team is going to wait until the playoffs to find out. 

the rams took a chance on him last year and won the super bowl.

[MDC 8,087]

59 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

the rams took a chance on him last year and won the super bowl.

OBJ played 8 regular season games with LA before the playoffs and he was healthy. That’s very different than coming off an ACL tear and playing no games before the postseason.

Besides, Russia is going to reduce the US to nuclear rubble before the playoffs start.

[MLCKAA 586]

On 9/3/2022 at 11:52 AM, MLCKAA said:

No one is talking Colts.  The OL and DL looked iffy in preseason, but if those issues aren’t real they could make a deep run.  Added a lot onD in the off-season and Ryan brings something at QB that they haven’t had since Peyton.

This aged well.

[BeenHereBefore 1,669]

22 minutes ago, MLCKAA said:

This aged well.

Ol matters.

[Cruzer 1,996]

9 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

with OBJ waiting until the playoffs to sign a deal and the league seemingly OK with that, it makes you wonder if that would become a trend.  why even bother playing regular season games?  when your contract is up, sit out until december, then sign a huge 1-year deal for a playoff run, then sit out until next december again.  maybe lots of WRs will try it.

As usual, you're clueless. 

OBJ didn't wait anything - he's not signed bcoz he's not healthy, not ready to play. Dallas didn't bring him in just to chat, just to wine and dine him at the Mavericks game. Jerry was prepared to make him an offer, but OBJ refused to work out... .Why? Bcoz he knew his ass wasn't fully healed yet. 

Dallas is still interested in OBJ going forward, but it's a 2023 vision - not 2022. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

2 hours ago, MDC said:

OBJ played 8 regular season games with LA before the playoffs and he was healthy. That’s very different than coming off an ACL tear and playing no games before the postseason.

on the contrary, the fact that OBJ pulled that off might make a team more likely to take a chance on OBJ this year.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

46 minutes ago, Cruzer said:

As usual, you're clueless. 

OBJ didn't wait anything - he's not signed bcoz he's not healthy, not ready to play. Dallas didn't bring him in just to chat, just to wine and dine him at the Mavericks game. Jerry was prepared to make him an offer, but OBJ refused to work out... .Why? Bcoz he knew his ass wasn't fully healed yet. 

Dallas is still interested in OBJ going forward, but it's a 2023 vision - not 2022. 

how is that arguing with anything i said?  theres still time for OBJ to sign somewhere.

[Cruzer 1,996]

25 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

how is that arguing with anything i said?  theres still time for OBJ to sign somewhere.

You said OBJ has waited until the playoffs to sign, as if some stroke of strategic genius...............hogwash. 

OBJ has waited to sign bcoz (one) he's not ready and (two) he's refused to work out for anyone. The fact the playoffs are coinciding with his timeframe is pure coincidence - not strategic. 

If he were ready, if he had worked out for Dallas - Jerry more than likely would have signed him, he was ready - he'd be a Cowboy now. 

[cmh6476 1,154]

 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

32 minutes ago, Cruzer said:

You said OBJ has waited until the playoffs to sign, as if some stroke of strategic genius...............hogwash. 

OBJ has waited to sign bcoz (one) he's not ready and (two) he's refused to work out for anyone. The fact the playoffs are coinciding with his timeframe is pure coincidence - not strategic. 

If he were ready, if he had worked out for Dallas - Jerry more than likely would have signed him, he was ready - he'd be a Cowboy now. 

you and i think VERY differently. 

you seem to assume that all 32 teams will operate not just rationally, but will use the rationale that you deem correct.  i pretty much never think that way.  i leave plenty of room for teams to come to different conclusions on what they want to do and even make errors.  humans make mistakes.  a LOT. 

but I suppose my way of thinking is why i am firmly convinced russia will nuke us.  when you factor in that russia has a different morality AND they can make errors, it seems to me its slam dunk they will nuke.  but someone like rusty who is more rigid in his thinking and less intelligent cannot see that and just assumes Russia will make the perfectly logical decision and make it in a way that conforms to western thinking.  so it blows his mind that someone can say russia is gonna nuke.

so, to me, there is a good chance OBJ might sign somewhere still.

its almost like you are having reading comprehension difficulty.  I am saying "looking at the situation, i think theres a good chance OBJ might still sign somewhere" whereas you think i am saying "if i was running an nfl team, i would sign OBJ today".

[BeenHereBefore 1,669]

21 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

 

Those games were fixed for the spread not cause of the teams like the guy who posted the video thinks. Yea Minn still won the game but didn't cover the spread.

[Cruzer 1,996]

7 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

you and i think VERY differently. 

you seem to assume that all 32 teams will operate not just rationally, but will use the rationale that you deem correct.  i pretty much never think that way.  i leave plenty of room for teams to come to different conclusions on what they want to do and even make errors.  humans make mistakes.  a LOT. 

but I suppose my way of thinking is why i am firmly convinced russia will nuke us.  when you factor in that russia has a different morality AND they can make errors, it seems to me its slam dunk they will nuke.  but someone like rusty who is more rigid in his thinking and less intelligent cannot see that and just assumes Russia will make the perfectly logical decision and make it in a way that conforms to western thinking.  so it blows his mind that someone can say russia is gonna nuke.

so, to me, there is a good chance OBJ might sign somewhere still.

its almost like you are having reading comprehension difficulty.  I am saying "looking at the situation, i think theres a good chance OBJ might still sign somewhere" whereas you think i am saying "if i was running an nfl team, i would sign OBJ today".

You're right, we do think differently - I'm not a fkn idiot. 

You're also a professional crawfisher........ all this mumbo jumbo about rationale and deeming conclusions is crap. You proclaimed OBJ to be strategically waiting to sign and I called you out for being wrong, which seems to be a pattern.......... BTW, how's that genius prediction you made about Dak playing his last game as a Cowboy end of last year, that Dallas wouldn't resign him, BANK IT you said.

You should maybe stick to Legos or something. 

[MDC 8,087]

9 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

on the contrary, the fact that OBJ pulled that off might make a team more likely to take a chance on OBJ this year.

Teams aren’t going to give OBJ his first snaps in a year in a playoff game. 

[wiffleball 4,797]

I'm only a drive-by observer these days, but it seems like this year has been a pretty good year for football.  Thrilling last minute wins, records broken, and a whole slew of young quarterbacks that are compelling if nothing else.

 

... And then there's the broncos...

[JustinCharge 2,397]

8 hours ago, MDC said:

Teams aren’t going to give OBJ his first snaps in a year in a playoff game. 

sports is trending that way.

[MDC 8,087]

1 hour ago, JustinCharge said:

sports is trending that way.

I predict he doesn’t play this year.