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Ron DeSantis sends two planes of illegal immigrants to Martha's Vineyard

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7 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

Again, this points back to the main problem.  The left controls the MSM.  That allows them to bully everyone with impunity.  They shame the republicans for enforcing the border.  they shut down all discussion and ignore it when they ship illegals out of Martha's Vineyard quickly and by military force.  

I've been saying for decades that the #1 priority is freedom of the press. Because we don't have it right now.

The press does enjoy freedom. They just aren’t saying what YOU want them to say. The media overall is far less biased than the right claims.  The media makes money by appealing to the middle of the road to get the most viewers, and the right-wingers’ ideas and opinions just aren’t that popular. Case in point: banning abortion has long been a top issue for the right, but a large majority of Americans want Roe v Wade back.

Even The NY Times and Washington Post, often accused of being liberal rags, have multiple conservative columnists, and have no problem going after liberals. But her emails! Wouldn’t have been a thing if the MSM didn’t publish stories on it in 2016.

Finally, it’s funny that the right is ok with LAWS banning abortion and banning books. But when they get “shamed” by somebody on TV criticizing their opinions, they somehow think their freedoms are being taken away? The victim mentality is sad and pathetic IMO.

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17 minutes ago, dogcows said:

The press does enjoy freedom. They just aren’t saying what YOU want them to say. The media overall is far less biased than the right claims.  The media makes money by appealing to the middle of the road to get the most viewers, and the right-wingers’ ideas and opinions just aren’t that popular. Case in point: banning abortion has long been a top issue for the right, but a large majority of Americans want Roe v Wade back.

Even The NY Times and Washington Post, often accused of being liberal rags, have multiple conservative columnists, and have no problem going after liberals. But her emails! Wouldn’t have been a thing if the MSM didn’t publish stories on it in 2016.

Finally, it’s funny that the right is ok with LAWS banning abortion and banning books. But when they get “shamed” by somebody on TV criticizing their opinions, they somehow think their freedoms are being taken away? The victim mentality is sad and pathetic IMO.

Dope much?

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30 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

You are a troll.  The real end.

Sorry most of the idiots here are wrong 90% of the time and I enjoy pointing out when they are.  If that makes me a troll so be it

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1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

You are a troll.  The real end.

If you're just now figuring that out, it's a you problem.

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47 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Sorry most of the idiots here are wrong 90% of the time and I enjoy pointing out when they are.  If that makes me a troll so be it

Not me. Not even close. I’m wrong, maybe, 10 pct of the time. You can look it up. 

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5 minutes ago, Reality said:

If you're just now figuring that out, it's a you problem.

^says the guy “ignoring” me yet replies to almost every post that takes about me

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4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

^says the guy “ignoring” me yet replies to almost every post that takes about me

This is your on topic response to this thread?

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11 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You know what happened. If you don’t that’s on you. Show me that they weren’t calling the shots. I made the claim. I stand by it. It’s on you to disprove it. If you could you would.  You can’t 

Again you ignore the specific question I asked. 

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7 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Majority of Americans support sending illegal immigrants to Democrat-led cities: poll

Over 50% of registered voters support sending illegal immigrants to Democrat-run cities.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/majority-americans-support-migrant-bussing-call-highlight-immigration-issue-poll

The truth is: this is already happening every day.

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Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse at Syracuse University (TRAC) analyzed the numbers of asylum seekers awaiting hearings at immigration courts around the country. As of late August, nearly 750,000 people are awaiting asylum hearings in total, TRAC calculates, relying on court records.

Broken out by state, more than 125,000 people are awaiting hearings at the immigration court in California, and more than 110,000 people are awaiting them at the court in New York, per TRAC. Meanwhile, approximately 98,000 are awaiting hearings at the court in Florida. For Texas, it’s around 75,000.

The largest remaining groups are mostly awaiting hearings in courts in blue states such as New Jersey, Massachusetts and Maryland, though some are waiting for hearings at courts in red states.

Most people don’t know that though, so many buy into the theatrics of Abbott and DeSantis.

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13 minutes ago, dogcows said:

The truth is: this is already happening every day.

Most people don’t know that though, so many buy into the theatrics of Abbott and DeSantis.

Countries like Nicaragua and Venezuela are emptying their jails and sending the inmates to the USA, most people don’t know that though.

 

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9 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:


Florida-based Hispanic conservatives approve of DeSantis’ Martha's Vineyard strategy despite media narrative

https://www.foxnews.com/media/florida-based-hispanic-conservatives-approve-desantis-marthas-vineyard-strategy-despite-media-narrative

According to a couple right-wing radio hosts interviewed by Fox News, that is….

No polls are listed… just the statements of a couple radio hosts. Very newsworthy…

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1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

Countries like Nicaragua and Venezuela are emptying their jails and sending the inmates to the USA, most people don’t know that though.

 

Most liberals don’t.  

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7 minutes ago, dogcows said:

The truth is: this is already happening every day.

Most people don’t know that though, so many buy into the theatrics of Abbott and DeSantis.

No, the TRUTH is that liberal states don't care to hear them.  They're ok with ignoring them (the backlog cases), because they're fine with the people living there illegally.  They're fine with it because it helps them in the polls with their base.

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1 minute ago, dogcows said:

According to a couple right-wing radio hosts interviewed by Fox News, that is….

No polls are listed… just the statements of a couple radio hosts. Very newsworthy…

Just like CNN, MSNBC, etc. what is your point?

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26 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Countries like Nicaragua and Venezuela are emptying their jails and sending the inmates to the USA, most people don’t know that though.

How do they not “know” it when it’s plastered all over every right wing website?

All this uproar stems from one Breitbart report, claiming they have an internal DHS document. They didn’t say where they got it or exactly what it says. But we’re supposed to take their word for it. Sorry, but Breitbart has lied so many times that they need far better sourcing before anybody should believe it. Also, the extreme rhetoric about prisons being emptied is going FAR beyond what even Breitbart claimed in their initial report. If you read Breitbart, you can also read between the lines that the author is a former border patrol agent, and the source engaged in a LOT of editorializing over the supposed report. Why don’t they make the actual report public? Why don’t they send it to peer news organizations for verification?  Maybe the report is true, maybe not. But they haven’t produced it, so who knows what’s actually in it? Not a good sign when they are hiding it.

The fact is, Venezuela is falling apart due to a terrible regime, and we should be trying to help the refugees, not demonize them or use them as political props. With over 6 million people fleeing Venezuela (not all coming to America), there are sure to be a small number of criminals among them. That doesn’t mean we reject them all.

We are short workers in America, which is part of the reason we have inflation. I wish Congress would come up with a guest worker program or something to turn the “invasion” at the border into a positive in some way. Biden’s already turned back over a million migrants, but as we all can see, it’s not enough to stop it completely.

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Just now, dogcows said:

How do they not “know” it when it’s plastered all over every right wing website?

 

Liberals ignore the truth.

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2 minutes ago, dogcows said:

How do they not “know” it when it’s plastered all over every right wing website?

All this uproar stems from one Breitbart report, claiming they have an internal DHS document. They didn’t say where they got it or exactly what it says. But we’re supposed to take their word for it. Sorry, but Breitbart has lied so many times that they need far better sourcing before anybody should believe it. Also, the extreme rhetoric about prisons being emptied is going FAR beyond what even Breitbart claimed in their initial report. If you read Breitbart, you can also read between the lines that the author is a former border patrol agent, and the source engaged in a LOT of editorializing over the supposed report. Why don’t they make the actual report public? Why don’t they send it to peer news organizations for verification? 

The fact is, Venezuela is falling apart due to a terrible regime, and we should be trying to help the refugees, not demonize them or use them as political props. With over 6 million people fleeing Venezuela (not all coming to America), there are sure to be a small number of criminals among them. That doesn’t mean we reject them all.

We are short workers in America, which is part of the reason we have inflation. I wish Congress would come up with a guest worker program or something to turn the “invasion” at the border into a positive in some way. Biden’s already turned back over a million migrants, but as we all can see, it’s not enough to stop it completely.

People from over 150 countries have crossed our southern border illegally under Biden but most people don’t know that.

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27 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

People from over 150 countries have crossed our southern border illegally under Biden but most people don’t know that.

People from over 151 countries crossed under Trump… :banana:

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18 minutes ago, dogcows said:

People from over 151 countries crossed under Trump… :banana:

Yes. It’s the same. 🤪

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40 minutes ago, dogcows said:

People from over 151 countries crossed under Trump… :banana:

At a rate of 1/6th of under Biden. 

What's easier to manage? 2 million, or 300,000? 

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1 minute ago, craftsman said:

I hope he sends 30 more planes full of those illegals to Marth's Vineyard. On a daily basis. 

I don’t think that would fit in the $12 million budget

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He needs to sustain this. Prior to this stunt the admin was getting away with pretending there was no problem. They have stopped doing that at least, which hopefully makes it more challenging to do nothing. I do not see that Biden will return to the successful Trump policies, sadly. He appears to be just fine with these people being exploited, dying, having no where to go upon arrival....but steadfastly against them going to Martha's Vineyard

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This worked out great.  The polls are in Desantis’ favor. 

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50 illegals is a humanitarian crisis yet 4 million isn't somehow. Put them all in shipping containers and sent them out. 

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1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Mayor Pete thinks a state governor should solve the immigration problem?  Maybe he wants Desantis to tie his shoes for him as well?

Whenever Arizona tries to help, we get told in no uncertain terms that it is a federal issue and to stay out of it.

Also, I thought you were a conservative who just happened to not like Trump.  Now it seems like you have a pet name for Desantis as well?  Perhaps it is time for you to embrace your transition to Leftism like 90+% of your former media brethren.  :cheers: 

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5 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Mayor Pete thinks a state governor should solve the immigration problem?  Maybe he wants Desantis to tie his shoes for him as well?

Whenever Arizona tries to help, we get told in no uncertain terms that it is a federal issue and to stay out of it.

Also, I thought you were a conservative who just happened to not like Trump.  Now it seems like you have a pet name for Desantis as well?  Perhaps it is time for you to embrace your transition to Leftism like 90+% of your former media brethren.  :cheers: 

So when it comes to abortion, MAGAtards believe it should be up to states to decide their own laws. But when it comes to immigration, MAGATards want more federal involvement.

I'm a moderate who doesn't care for the extremes. I can't stand Bernie Sanders and the socialist end of the spectrum.

Likewise, I don't like Clownzo because he's a divisive, loudmouthed, self-serving, dictator wanna be. 

And I don't like MAGAtards because they blindly follow Clownzo and have uncompromising, far-right ideology.

Deshitis is a MAGATard, and lying to illegals to get them to be part of his publicity stunt is wrong and won't solve the problem. 

Hawwww heeee hawwww. 

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2 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

So when it comes to abortion, MAGAtards believe it should be up to states to decide their own laws. But when it comes to immigration, MAGATards want more federal involvement.

I'm a moderate who doesn't care for the extremes. I can't stand Bernie Sanders and the socialist end of the spectrum.

Likewise, I don't like Clownzo because he's a divisive, loudmouthed, self-serving, dictator wanna be. 

And I don't like MAGAtards because they blindly follow Clownzo and have uncompromising, far-right ideology.

Deshitis is a MAGATard, and lying to illegals to get them to be part of his publicity stunt is wrong and won't solve the problem. 

Hawwww heeee hawwww. 

Your first paragraph is mind-numbingly ignorant.  It is the responsibility of the federal government in this country to control our border.  And as I just said but you apparently can't read, the feds get mad when states try to help.  Otherwise good job, good effort.  :thumbsup: 

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2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Your first paragraph is mind-numbingly ignorant.  It is the responsibility of the federal government in this country to control our border.  And as I just said but you apparently can't read, the feds get mad when states try to help.  Otherwise good job, good effort.  :thumbsup: 

MAGAtards think they can pick and choose governmental responsibility based on their politics, and they have no ability to compromise on issues. 

 

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