2022 Midterm Elections

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

16 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

omg words an opinions ban him from life

What the fock is this unintelligible collection of words, some new kind of poetry?

 

[BuckSwope 654]

30 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

Back on topic.  This was a historically bad showing for Republicans during challenging economic times and with an unpopular president that should have led to a massive red wave.  Instead Republicans will be lucky to eek out a small majority in the house.  If Republicans continue down this path in 24 with a recovered economy and someone not named Biden running, they're getting wiped out. 

That depends on what the non-Biden nominee is.   

Would you be as confident if we are staring at Harris vs. DeSantis that the outcome will favor you?    Do you think Harris beats Trump?    

Trouble I see for Ds is that it's either Biden, which come on - he should be one and done and we all know it.  Then the logical next up is the VP and IMO that would be a huge mistake for the Ds.  She is a terrible candidate.   

If not those two, then who?

[BuckSwope 654]

16 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

My wife in the past hasn't been able to process why I like hard rock, metal and punk. 

A couple of years ago, I stumbled across this Australia band called Amyl and the Sniffers and wore out their first full-length album They released their second album last year, and it's great as well. They're a blend of hard rock, punk and old-fashioned riff rock. They make it sound fresh.

I couldn't wait to see them live, and I got my wish earlier this year, seeing them at a backyard venue in Austin. I even got to meet the singer, this crazy blonde chick with a mullet and buck teeth.

My wife went with an open mind, and we stood on the edge of the pit the whole time. She totally got it, which opened her up to giving Metallica a whirl.

We've been listening to the albums one by one on long trips, starting with the first album, and she gets them as well. We just listened to the black album yesterday.

Her favorite so far is "And Justice for All." 

That's awesome.    And Justice is my fave as well - hit me right in those formative Middle School years of rebellion.  

I have no doubt that my wife would go to an Opeth show if I asked and might even like some songs, especially the late stage ones.   We will listen to some of our 90s bands and she doesn't shy away from metal if it's in a mix and genuinely likes bands like Tool, NIN, Rage even if that's not her bag and in her rotation a lot.   Sometimes I like things to be just mine as well, so I don't push it much a little out of that reason.  

[Raven Fan 362]

16 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

That depends on what the non-Biden nominee is.   

Would you be as confident if we are staring at Harris vs. DeSantis that the outcome will favor you?    Do you think Harris beats Trump?    

Trouble I see for Ds is that it's either Biden, which come on - he should be one and done and we all know it.  Then the logical next up is the VP and IMO that would be a huge mistake for the Ds.  She is a terrible candidate.   

If not those two, then who?

Agree that Harris will throw her hat in the ring, but she won't win the nom.  She's the only person I can see losing to Trump.  My guess is it will be Newsome.  I wish Michelle would run but that seems unlikely. 

[OldMaid 2,130]

15 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

That depends on what the non-Biden nominee is.   

Would you be as confident if we are staring at Harris vs. DeSantis that the outcome will favor you?    Do you think Harris beats Trump?    

Trouble I see for Ds is that it's either Biden, which come on - he should be one and done and we all know it.  Then the logical next up is the VP and IMO that would be a huge mistake for the Ds.  She is a terrible candidate.   

If not those two, then who?

Yep. Biden/Harris needs to go. Sadly, I think Biden and his team will view the midterms as a sign that people want him to run again. 

On a curious note-Trump is threatening to spill dirt on DeSantis. That should be to watch. I guess there’s a possibility that he’s puts a big enough stink around the both of them that they end up with no viable candidate to run.

[BuckSwope 654]

2 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

Agree that Harris will throw her hat in the ring, but she won't win the nom.  She's the only person I can see losing to Trump.  My guess is it will be Newsome.  I wish Michelle would run but that seems unlikely. 

Oh, man - I think that would be bad too.   He will get flamed over woke stuff and SF crime.    Michelle is interesting, but I am also bored with Bushes/Clintons/Obamas/Trumps.   Let's break it up, as you know Jr. is probably going to try soon too.    Not sure if she would win either.   

Long story short, from what I've seen in the pool Biden is still currently their best shot, and that is a sad thing to say.    

Good grief, where are the decent POTUS candidates???

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

8 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

That's awesome.    And Justice is my fave as well - hit me right in those formative Middle School years of rebellion.  

I have no doubt that my wife would go to an Opeth show if I asked and might even like some songs, especially the late stage ones.   We will listen to some of our 90s bands and she doesn't shy away from metal if it's in a mix and genuinely likes bands like Tool, NIN, Rage even if that's not her bag and in her rotation a lot.   Sometimes I like things to be just mine as well, so I don't push it much a little out of that reason.  

I'm going to skip "Load" and "Re-load" with her. She liked a lot of the songs on black album, but the ones she didn't like are closer to the style that dominates "Load" and "Re-load." 

I'll go straight to "St. Anger," which I think is a great album. I acknowledge "Master of Puppets" being their best and arguably the G.O.A.T., but my favorite is "Death Magnetic." 

It came out at the perfect time for me. Hurricane Ike had caused $40,000 to my property, and my mom had just died, so there was a lot about that album that resonates with me.

"All Nightmare Long" could have been the soundtrack to Hurricane Ike. Only three years had passed since Hurricane Rita trashed my house, so "Crawl through the wreckage one more time ... " really hit home for me. The whole album's riffs are ridiculous.

[BuckSwope 654]

3 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Yep. Biden/Harris needs to go. Sadly, I think Biden and his team will view the midterms as a sign that people want him to run again. 

On a curious note-Trump is threatening to spill dirt on DeSantis. That should be to watch. I guess there’s a possibility that he’s puts a big enough stink around the both of them that they end up with no viable candidate to run.

I can see that as well, and think you might be right.    I don't think Tuesday was so much a vote for Biden as it was a vote against abortion bans and stop the steal rhetoric.  JMO though.  

Yes, Trump vs. DeSantis could be a "fun" battle royale to watch.  Of course he's already said he knows more about him than just about anybody.     His go-to move.   Was it more than DeSantis' wife, or she was the only one who knew more?  I can't keep it straight.  

[OldMaid 2,130]

2 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Oh, man - I think that would be bad too.   He will get flamed over woke stuff and SF crime.    Michelle is interesting, but I am also bored with Bushes/Clintons/Obamas/Trumps.   Let's break it up, as you know Jr. is probably going to try soon too.    Not sure if she would win either.   

Long story short, from what I've seen in the pool Biden is still currently their best shot, and that is a sad thing to say.    

Good grief, where are the decent POTUS candidates???

Outside of Reagan, California candidates have faired horribly at running for POTUS. If Gavin truly has presidential ambitions he should take a stab at VP first.

We’ve got 2yrs for someone else to rise up from the shadows. Maybe someone from the newly elected class will prove worthy. :dunno;

[BuckSwope 654]

3 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Outside of Reagan, California candidates have faired horribly at running for POTUS. If Gavin truly has presidential ambitions he should take a stab at VP first.

We’ve got 2yrs for someone else to rise up from the shadows. Maybe someone from the newly elected class will prove worthy. :dunno;

Isn't it more like 6months or so?  Trump will probably announce soon, and it seems like we are getting closer to 12-18 months of campaigning now, so I would think a lot of the hopefuls will start coming out of the woodwork by summer.  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

43 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

What the fock is this unintelligible collection of words, some new kind of poetry?

 

yes you are against people saying whatever the fock they want, words hurt you

[OldMaid 2,130]

1 minute ago, BuckSwope said:

Isn't it more like 6months or so?  Trump will probably announce soon, and it seems like we are getting closer to 12-18 months of campaigning now, so I would think a lot of the hopefuls will start coming out of the woodwork by summer.  

Yes, you are right, my bad. The machine will need to be fired up sooner than later. Maybe wishful thinking on my part that we could stop with the never ending presidential campaigning. 

[BuckSwope 654]

1 minute ago, OldMaid said:

Yes, you are right, my bad. The machine will need to be fired up sooner than later. Maybe wishful thinking on my part that we could stop with the never ending presidential campaigning. 

That's why I don't think the Ds will be digging much farther than Biden and Harris.   It doesn't feel like anyone else is ramping up, and like you said I think they are making the mistake of attributing too much of Tuesday to Joe.  

I do wonder if they are waiting on Trump/Desantis and the reaction from the GOP before deciding to trot out Biden.  

The mistake the Ds would make is thinking Harris can beat anyone.  Also Joe vs DeSantis would be bad, imo.  

The mistake the Rs would make is letting Trump be the nomination. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

yes you are against people saying whatever the fock they want, words hurt you

More LiteracyHaters Revenge sentence atrocities.

1.) https://vivaphonics.com/how-to-teach-sentence-writing/#:~:text=When students start reading simple,level that requires the practice.

Children in kindergarten learn "that a sentence begins with an uppercase letter and ends with a period."

This marks two consecutive sentences that lack both of those.

2.) https://www.nightzookeeper.com/curriculum/punctuation/grade-1#:~:text=At Grade 1 level%2C children,question mark and exclamation point.

First-graders learn proper comma usage. Avoiding comma splices - such as the one you deployed here - comes a little later in elementary school.

I was able to decipher this sentence, accusing me of being "against people saying whatever the fock they want ... "

I'm all for the First Amendment and free speech. I'm also for libel and slander law as well as information platforms being responsible for their content.

Aside from this letter containing crazy MAGAtard ramblings, it's a perfectly fine exercise of free speech if it were only words on a page.

But this page was shoved into someone's mailbox, which is a federal crime:

https://blog.oup.com/2017/07/mailboxes-us-mail/#:~:text=All the Facts%3A A History,the United States since 1870&text=Because it is against Federal,%245%2C000 and an organization %2410%2C000.

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Because it is against Federal law to put anything in a mailbox, “on which no postage has been paid,” and if caught doing so a person could be fined up to $5,000 and an organization $10,000. Called the Mailbox Restriction Law, most countries do not have such legislation. But there is more. In the US, people receiving mail must pay for mailboxes, and these have to meet government specifications, or provide slots in their front doors through which postal carriers deliver mail. The Postal Service also “owns” our mailboxes and sets all the regulations involving them.

This law has been around since 1934, but I guess you'd be fine with Rachel Maddow shoving Antifa and BLM literature into your mailbox, because that's "free speech" and all.

[OldMaid 2,130]

17 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

That's why I don't think the Ds will be digging much farther than Biden and Harris.   It doesn't feel like anyone else is ramping up, and like you said I think they are making the mistake of attributing too much of Tuesday to Joe.  

I do wonder if they are waiting on Trump/Desantis and the reaction from the GOP before deciding to trot out Biden.  

The mistake the Ds would make is thinking Harris can beat anyone.  Also Joe vs DeSantis would be bad, imo.  

The mistake the Rs would make is letting Trump be the nomination. 

I think so, too. If Joe decides he wants to run again, there won’t be much pushback. I won’t vote for him again unless it is another Biden/Trump situation. I don’t love DeSantis, but I’d have to see what he brings to the table. 

I can’t fathom them letting Trump get the nomination again, but then again, I couldn’t the first time either. 

One more thing- Liberals need to stop saying the want Liz Cheney to run. No. No you do not, stupid.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

3 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

I think so, too. If Joe decides he wants to run again, there won’t be much pushback. I won’t vote for him again unless it is another Biden/Trump situation. I don’t love DeSantis, but I’d have to see what he brings to the table. 

I can’t fathom them letting Trump get the nomination again, but then again, I couldn’t the first time either. 

One more thing- Liberals need to stop saying the want Liz Cheney to run. No. No you do not, stupid.

Me voting for DeSantis depends on him crystallizing his positions on various issues. 

He supports the Ukrainian resistance and criticized Biden for not being tough enough on Russia. 

He opposes legalizing recreational marijuana use. 

His handling of COVID. 

He voted against Hurricane Sandy disaster relief but requested federal relief for Hurricane Ian. 

His economic positions. 

His abortion position. 

Education. 

Environment. 

Guns. 

Health care. 

Immigration. 

Law enforcement. 

LGBQ. 

Veterans. 

Voting. 

He's done a ton of flip-flopping on many of these issues, such as abortion. Detected heartbeat is too soon a cutoff.

 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

2 hours ago, dogcows said:

What an idiot he is. Trump clearly said to inject disinfectant, not bleach. Get it right, Ravens fan.

 

Yup, been a nutty conspiracy in crazier right wing circles for a couple decades now. They think bleach is some magic cure all just as long as you don’t drink too much of it. Big pharma doesn’t want you to know or there goes their profits    

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1 hour ago, BuckSwope said:

That depends on what the non-Biden nominee is.   

Would you be as confident if we are staring at Harris vs. DeSantis that the outcome will favor you?    Do you think Harris beats Trump?    

Trouble I see for Ds is that it's either Biden, which come on - he should be one and done and we all know it.  Then the logical next up is the VP and IMO that would be a huge mistake for the Ds.  She is a terrible candidate.   

If not those two, then who?

Both sides have a baked in number of EVs.  Out of the remaining EVs at large, the D's have more paths to 270.  The R's have to thread a needle almost EVERY time.  

Harris would be competitive and have a chance against DeSantis. She'll lose that race though.  She'd be competitive against Trump and win.   Biden would be competitive and have a chance against DeSantis.  He'd probably lose.  Biden would beat Trump.

 

Republicans SHOULD be backing DeSantis in 2024 over Trump in the primary.  The iron is never going to be hotter for DeSantis..If has to play second fiddle to Trump in 24....he'll get all the backlash and stink of Trump on him.

 

2028?........ Wes Moore for the Democrats.  

[IGotWorms 4,058]

1 hour ago, OldMaid said:

Outside of Reagan, California candidates have faired horribly at running for POTUS. If Gavin truly has presidential ambitions he should take a stab at VP first.

We’ve got 2yrs for someone else to rise up from the shadows. Maybe someone from the newly elected class will prove worthy. :dunno;

Buttigieg could be a possibility. Whitmer. You don’t hear a lot about Corey Booker these days but I thought he might have a shot

[IGotWorms 4,058]

26 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Me voting for DeSantis depends on him crystallizing his positions on various issues. 

He supports the Ukrainian resistance and criticized Biden for not being tough enough on Russia. 

He opposes legalizing recreational marijuana use. 

His handling of COVID. 

He voted against Hurricane Sandy disaster relief but requested federal relief for Hurricane Ian. 

His economic positions. 

His abortion position. 

Education. 

Environment. 

Guns. 

Health care. 

Immigration. 

Law enforcement. 

LGBQ. 

Veterans. 

Voting. 

He's done a ton of flip-flopping on many of these issues, such as abortion. Detected heartbeat is too soon a cutoff.

 

I’m concerned with his abuses of power in Florida. Going after Disneyland because they didn’t back some right wing law he wanted and stuff like that

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9 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Buttigieg could be a possibility. Whitmer. You don’t hear a lot about Corey Booker these days but I thought he might have a shot

All three would be awful candidates.

[OldMaid 2,130]

9 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Buttigieg could be a possibility. Whitmer. You don’t hear a lot about Corey Booker these days but I thought he might have a shot

No. Maybe. Is he still alive?  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,424]

6 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I’m concerned with his abuses of power in Florida. Going after Disneyland because they didn’t back some right wing law he wanted and stuff like that

What didn’t you like about that law? 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

All three would be awful candidates.

Yeah probably. There aren’t many good ones out there, on either side  

[IGotWorms 4,058]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What didn’t you like about that law? 

Well if you read my post, my issue was the retaliatory abuse of power. I don’t even remember exactly what the law itself was about and I don’t particularly care — the issue is Disney expressed some mild and belated misgivings over it, IIRC, and so Desantis went after them using his powers as governor.

[RLLD 4,230]

2 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

I’m concerned with his abuses of power in Florida. Going after Disneyland because they didn’t back some right wing law he wanted and stuff like that

I think Disney’s special allowance was long overdue for removal 

 

[craftsman 1,045]

1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

Well if you read my post, my issue was the retaliatory abuse of power. I don’t even remember exactly what the law itself was about and I don’t particularly care — the issue is Disney expressed some mild and belated misgivings over it, IIRC, and so Desantis went after them using his powers as governor.

Kind of a key point. Just a little one. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,424]

So Worms has no issue with Disney using it’s power to attempt to undermine the will of the voters.  Democracy is at stake. Corporations decide now, not the people.  

[jerryskids 6,793]

6 hours ago, dogcows said:

Arizona’s GOP-majority legislature could have done something about it. Instead, they hired “Cyber Ninjas” and then spent all their time obsessing over ballot drop boxes instead of figuring out a way to quickly and efficiently count ballots. Here’s a good summary of all their new election laws post 2020. I don’t see anything in there that would actually help count ballots faster. Instead, they focused on making it harder to vote from home and easier to purge people’s voter registrations.

https://www.azpolicy.org/2022/07/22/new-election-laws/

More info on why it took so long:

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/2022-election-why-is-it-taking-so-long-for-arizona-to-count-ballots

What a crap post.  Your first is a shotgun list of law changes.  Which of those is responsible for the delay?  Here's one from the list:

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• Election officials are required to tally mail-in ballots earlier, and post the preliminary numbers at 8:00 on Election Day (2021)

Your second mentions a specific reason; validation of the ballot:

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"When people are told to drop off their early ballot on Election Day, those can't be counted that night. You can't just run them through a machine. They have to be signature checked, scanned first, then processed by a bipartisan board before they can be counted," said former Maricopa County Recorder Helen Purcell.

I thought you said signature checks were done by everyone as part of making 2020 the bestest most secure election evah!?

The article also mentions another significant delay:  poor printing of ballots:

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There are also about 17,000 outstanding ballots — about 7% of those cast in person on Election Day — that were set aside due to a Tuesday printing problem at about a quarter of the county’s vote tabulation centers. 

This printing BTW is to enable people to go to any polling place and print their ballot, a new capability which encourages voting and makes it easier.  

The early votes weren't counted in a timely manner, signature checking was inefficient, and printing problems existed, none of which are legislative issues, but rather on the Secretary of State, Katie Hobbs, the mouse who is very possibly rewarded for her incompetence.

I talked about this last time you tried to blame this all on the GOP, to my knowledge you ignored it, I fully expect you to ignore it yet again.  When you do it a third time, I'll just say "read my earlier responses" and save some time.

 

 

5 hours ago, dogcows said:

There’s an adult in your house? Oh right, your mom.

This is your response to RHR saying he got 4 ballots.  Gun thrown.

[dogcows 1,030]

25 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

This is your response to RHR saying he got 4 ballots.  Gun thrown.

IMO, when somebody straight up lies, they don’t really deserve a serious reply.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

41 minutes ago, dogcows said:

IMO, when somebody straight up lies, they don’t really deserve a serious reply.

I don’t need to lie I got mine my ex wife’s my ex roommate and a name I’ve never seen. My ex wife also got one at her house and my old roommate did as well

its Cali. They send them in bulk

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Newsome, Whitmer, Booker, Buttiegieg?

JFC are you guys serious?  

[IGotWorms 4,058]

1 minute ago, KSB2424 said:

Newsome, Whitmer, Booker, Buttiegieg?

JFC are you guys serious?  

Who would you advance from the dem side?  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,424]

1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

Who would you advance from the dem side?  

Kamala. 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Kamala. 

Lol sure you would

[lod001 1,344]

4 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Buttigieg could be a possibility. Whitmer. You don’t hear a lot about Corey Booker these days but I thought he might have a shot

3 POS, idiots.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Just now, lod001 said:

3 POS, idiots.

 

8 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Who would you advance from the dem side?  

 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

3 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Well if you read my post, my issue was the retaliatory abuse of power. I don’t even remember exactly what the law itself was about and I don’t particularly care — the issue is Disney expressed some mild and belated misgivings over it, IIRC, and so Desantis went after them using his powers as governor.

Yeah, he's a doosh. He's in the same ballpark as Clownzo when it comes to retaliatory politics. 

Ultimately, the Florida taxpayers could suffer, because Disney footed the bill for its own police, fire and infrastructure.

Without that special district, that means other entities have to deal with it, which might mean higher taxes to pay for it.

DeShittis is just another racist, homophobic MAGAtard who duped illegal immigrants to take a ride north at taxpayer expense.

[Raven Fan 362]

20 minutes ago, lod001 said:

3 POS, idiots.

And as these midterms prove, any of them would crush Trump.  All Rs have to do is not run Trump and they have a slight chance, but of course Rs aren't known as the party of Trump for nothing.

D landslide in 24.  Gonna be nice. 

[KSB2424 3,148]

31 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Who would you advance from the dem side?  

NC Governor Roy Cooper.  He's a Democrat so I disagree with a lot of things he is "for" but I respect the man.  I believe he's in politics for the right reason even though I disagree with him on many issues.  He's not crazy, he's not ultra liberal, he reminds me of an old school Democrat.  And well, he can put two sentences together without sounding like a complete idiot.  Which would be a step up from the current administration.  

ETA: I didn't mind Tulsi Gabbard and Andrw Yang either.  But the Democratic Party went so far left it left those candidates.