2022 Midterm Elections

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

Just now, Pimpadeaux said:

So it's bipartisan support when applied to wars launched under Republican presidents but warmongering when it's military aid to Ukraine with no boots on the ground.

Gotcha!

nope its bipartisan warmongering in both, and I am against it

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

This should help you understand the issues with the qanon theories.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/QAnon

I dont care what anyone says, Ive never read any of it, nor am I going to use a wikipedia post for info

I think conspiracy theories and promoting of them is 10000% fine, of course I am a 1A absolutist

my point I was making is the only time I ever hear anything about QAnon is from leftists

 

[TimHauck 2,856]

9 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

it was the first thing that was atop google, I just linked what I had heard elsewhere

 

“What you heard,” lol

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3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

“What you heard,” lol

yah occasionally I see a twitter comment on instagram I dont spend all day there like you

 

[TimHauck 2,856]

2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

yah occasionally I see a twitter comment on instagram I dont spend all day there like you

 

So you just spend all day here instead to parrot whatever right wing talking points you “heard” elsewhere?

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Just now, TimHauck said:

So you just spend all day here instead to parrot whatever right wing talking points you “heard” elsewhere?

no it just didnt surprise me that mcconnell the POS would have his hand in the cookie jar

and yes I am retired, I work for myself if you haven't paid attention, I can do whatever the fock I want, usually I am here when I am having coffee

[Hardcore troubadour 15,407]

So any breakdown of what way the states with delayed votes broke? Is it weighted one way or another, dems vs republicans? 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

26 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

nope its bipartisan warmongering in both, and I am against it

 

[TimHauck 2,856]

11 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

no it just didnt surprise me that mcconnell the POS would have his hand in the cookie jar

and yes I am retired, I work for myself if you haven't paid attention, I can do whatever the fock I want, usually I am here when I am having coffee

Your particular conspiracy theory doesn’t even make sense.

US gives to Ukraine

FTX gives to Ukraine

FTX gives to Dems

There is no link for getting it from Ukraine back to the Dems.  It would have to be Ukraine “giving” to FTX, which doesn’t appear to have actually happened

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3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Your particular conspiracy theory doesn’t even make sense.

US gives to Ukraine

FTX gives to Ukraine

FTX gives to Dems

There is no link for getting it from Ukraine back to the Dems.  It would have to be Ukraine “giving” to FTX, which doesn’t appear to have actually happened

I dont think I said Ukraine gave to Dems did I?

edit: I said FTX gave to Ukraine and Dems

and you added GOP so where is the conspiracy?

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I dont think I said Ukraine gave to Dems did I?

edit: I said FTX gave to Ukraine and Dems

and you added GOP so where is the conspiracy?

How do you feel about Ukraine giving to the Clownzo Foundation?

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1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said:

How do you feel about Ukraine giving to the Clownzo Foundation?

I dont care what other countries do, not my money, I care what we do, my money

 

[Mike Honcho 5,269]

 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I dont care what other countries do, not my money, I care what we do, my money

 

Well, our country clearly doesn't care about what you think.

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Just now, Pimpadeaux said:

Well, our country clearly doesn't care about what you think.

nope cause they are morons and think the govt knows whats best for them

 

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3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

nope cause they are morons and think the govt knows whats best for them

 

I'll put my money on them knowing what's best for the country over the uninformed ramblings of an angry, middle-aged white man who spends his days mutilating the English language on a low-rent message board.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said:

I'll put my money on them knowing what's best for the country over the uninformed ramblings of an angry, middle-aged white man who spends his days mutilating the English language on a low-rent message board.

im not angry in the slightest, the fact that you think the govt knows whats best shows your level of intelligence

and yep I dont use caps or punctuation and never will its unnecessary 

 

 

[TimHauck 2,856]

29 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I dont think I said Ukraine gave to Dems did I?

edit: I said FTX gave to Ukraine and Dems

and you added GOP so where is the conspiracy?

The conspiracy theory going around is that there was a money laundering scheme using money the US gave to Ukraine then giving it back to the Dems through FTX. If you don’t think that happened then we’re on the same page. My whole point is I don’t think there’s a conspiracy

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

im not angry in the slightest, the fact that you think the govt knows whats best shows your level of intelligence

and yep I dont use caps or punctuation and never will its unnecessary 

 

 

I don't rely on the government to know what's best. I educate myself on both sides of an issue and develop an informed viewpoint. You're like HT in that you develop uneducated opinions on issues with little in the way of research and thorough thought.

The world can't stand by and allow a ruthless superpower autocrat to launch a brutal, unprovoked attack on a free democratic country and commit all manner of war crimes and atrocities, destabilizing the planet thanks Ukraine's vital importance, including food and natural resources.

Some 40 countries have provided Ukrainian aid this year, and our involvement has bipartisan support.

Only extremists think we have no business being involved. You're well within the minority here.

Allowing Russia to overtake Ukraine presents far more world dangers than us helping them out.

 

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7 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

I don't rely on the government to know what's best. I educate myself on both sides of an issue and develop an informed viewpoint. You're like HT in that you develop uneducated opinions on issues with little in the way of research and thorough thought.

The world can't stand by and allow a ruthless superpower autocrat to launch a brutal, unprovoked attack on a free democratic country and commit all manner of war crimes and atrocities, destabilizing the planet thanks Ukraine's vital importance, including food and natural resources.

Some 40 countries have provided Ukrainian aid this year, and our involvement has bipartisan support.

Only extremists think we have no business being involved. You're well within the minority here.

Allowing Russia to overtake Ukraine presents far more world dangers than us helping them out.

 

right but allowing us to overtake Syria, Libya, Iraq, etc is ok

and you educate yourself on both sides, thats right youre a centrist

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10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

The conspiracy theory going around is that there was a money laundering scheme using money the US gave to Ukraine then giving it back to the Dems through FTX. If you don’t think that happened then we’re on the same page. My whole point is I don’t think there’s a conspiracy

I think everything is a conspiracy, so whatever, I am willing to bet we know less than 10% of what actually goes on within our own govt, and nothing would surprise me.  The entire govt is a money laundering scheme fwiw

[jerryskids 6,790]

2 hours ago, Raven Fan said:

There's a reason his cultist are called deplorables. 

Yes, from your hero Hillary, who like you views working class people / tradies with disdain.

[Raven Fan 362]

39 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Yes, from your hero Hillary, who like you views working class people / tradies with disdain.

Disdain is a strong word...

[TimHauck 2,856]

1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I think everything is a conspiracy, so whatever, I am willing to bet we know less than 10% of what actually goes on within our own govt, and nothing would surprise me.  The entire govt is a money laundering scheme fwiw

Like I posted yesterday:

20 hours ago, TimHauck said:

 

 

 

[craftsman 1,045]

On 11/13/2022 at 5:19 PM, jerryskids said:

Yes.  This has been my point all along; this is why the Dems did so well.  Along with crap candidates in competitive races.

For the 914647805432775530th time.

Thanks for mentioning it. Again. 

[Masshole 642]

20 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Like I’ve said many times, I realize he gave a crap ton of money to Dems, but all indications are he did it hoping their policies would help his company in the future, just like rich people have done for decades.  I was simply pointing out you are yet another GC liar because your exact words were he donated to Dems “and no one else.”

Oh and speaking of FTX CEOs donating 8 figure amounts in the last election, how do you feel about their co-CEO Ryan Salame donating $20 million to Republicans?  Conspiracy!!!

https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/biggest-donors

This whole thread is worth a read.   But if you want to keep believing that the Dems aren't up to their eyeballs in this cr@pfest and somehow this involves republicans to any significant degree or manner - you do you.   

 

[Reality 3,121]

[Voltaire 5,315]

20 hours ago, Raven Fan said:

I vacation in Smith Mountain Lake Va.  To get there we drive from civilization NoVa and get progressively further into deep red Va.  As soon as you see the Trump flags with regularity you just know the confederate flags aren't far behind.  And they always go hand in hand.

When I was a kid, call it the 70s and 80s, the Confederate flag was used to mean "Southern Pride". There was no racism associated with how it was portrayed in pop culture, meaning specifically in the band Lynyrd Skynyrd nor the Dukes of Hazzard TV show. I was in the north where we have zero affinity for it, where our forefathers fought to take it down, and where local schools are named "Lincoln" and "Grant" but I never begrudged the south their flag.

Since then, in fairness, I've been overseas now for 21 years and so don't have the pulse of the country anymore on such things. I don't know if it still retains that meaning of Southern Pride of if it really has morphed into the darker racist symbol it's detractors make it out to be.

The South needed the asskicking they took in the 1860s to end slavery and I'm glad they lost. But I am curious as to what goes through the minds of the people who still do fly that flag in 2022. I'm hoping most of them still look at it the way Bo and Luke and Ronnie Van Zant and Gary Rossington did and not the way you presume they do.

[iam90sbaby 2,610]

8 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

When I was a kid, call it the 70s and 80s, the Confederate flag was used to mean "Southern Pride". There was no racism associated with how it was portrayed in pop culture, meaning specifically in the band Lynyrd Skynyrd nor the Dukes of Hazzard TV show. I was in the north where we have zero affinity for it, where our forefathers fought to take it down, and where local schools are named "Lincoln" and "Grant" but I never begrudged the south their flag.

Since then, in fairness, I've been overseas now for 21 years and so don't have the pulse of the country anymore on such things. I don't know if it still retains that meaning of Southern Pride of if it really has morphed into the darker racist symbol it's detractors make it out to be.

The South needed the asskicking they took in the 1860s to end slavery and I'm glad they lost. But I am curious as to what goes through the minds of the people who still do fly that flag in 2022. I'm hoping most of them still look at it the way Bo and Luke and Ronnie Van Zant and Gary Rossington did and not the way you presume they do.

Give it a year or two, you'll understand then 

[Raven Fan 362]

30 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

When I was a kid, call it the 70s and 80s, the Confederate flag was used to mean "Southern Pride". There was no racism associated with how it was portrayed in pop culture, meaning specifically in the band Lynyrd Skynyrd nor the Dukes of Hazzard TV show. I was in the north where we have zero affinity for it, where our forefathers fought to take it down, and where local schools are named "Lincoln" and "Grant" but I never begrudged the south their flag.

Since then, in fairness, I've been overseas now for 21 years and so don't have the pulse of the country anymore on such things. I don't know if it still retains that meaning of Southern Pride of if it really has morphed into the darker racist symbol it's detractors make it out to be.

The South needed the asskicking they took in the 1860s to end slavery and I'm glad they lost. But I am curious as to what goes through the minds of the people who still do fly that flag in 2022. I'm hoping most of them still look at it the way Bo and Luke and Ronnie Van Zant and Gary Rossington did and not the way you presume they do.

Now it's only flown by defiant "phuk your feelings" Trump supporters who DGAF if you know they're racist.

[TimHauck 2,856]

43 minutes ago, Masshole said:

This whole thread is worth a read.   But if you want to keep believing that the Dems aren't up to their eyeballs in this cr@pfest and somehow this involves republicans to any significant degree or manner - you do you.   

 

Lol.  My whole point was I don’t think Republicans are involved in a significant manner. I also don’t think Democrats are. But if the Dems are, so are the Republicans based on the $20 million that their co-CEO gave.   Speaking of, I didn’t realize that Forbes shills for Republicans now, simply including Salame as one of SBF‘s “deputies” and failing to note that the majority of the “$29 million more” went to Republicans.

I guess I wouldn’t be shocked if some schmo in Texas that had no shot of winning his race is involved somehow, but that’s really just a scam, not a conspiracy, and a far cry from what was suggested about Biden and Ukraine.

To answer the question in the tweet, my understanding is that the money probably wasn’t considered stolen until the value of their made up token tanked thanks to the binance guy selling a lot of it off. Nonetheless, I would hope that whoever received donations from anyone at FTX keeps some of that money in a fund for creditors. 

[jerryskids 6,790]

19 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Yes, from your hero Hillary, who like you views working class people / tradies with disdain.

 

18 hours ago, Raven Fan said:

Disdain is a strong word...

Yes, it is.

You said the quiet part out loud in that thread.  There is not putting that toothpaste back into the tube, you might as well just own it.  

[Masshole 642]

The FTX Dog That Didn't Bark | RealClearPolitics

That, after all, was what SBF was publicly attempting to do. He dumped $40 million into the midterm elections in support of Democrats; he donated $5.2 million to then-candidate Joe Biden during the 2020 election cycle. He had pledged the FTX foundation to hand out $1 billion in 2022. He did all of this in the name of supposed "effective altruism," a philosophy in which Left-wingers seek to use capitalism in order to enrich themselves, then dump the money into favored causes. "I wanted to get rich, not because I like money but because I wanted to give that money to charity," SBF told one interviewer.

"Effective altruism" is just another iteration of the World Economic Forum-approved "stakeholder capitalism" idea -- the idea that CEOs owe their shareholders nothing, but the world at large their time, money and resources. There is a reason that FTX had partnered with WEF -- a fact that WEF has now obscured by cleaning its website.

How many scam artists are using such "bluewashing" in order to cover for malfeasance -- all the while colluding with government figures to redraw regulations that benefit them? That, after all, was SBF's biggest scam: He was an advocate of particular types of regulation that benefitted him and used both familial and business connections in order to protect his corporatism.

And that's the dog that didn't bark here: Where were the regulators with whom SBF was close? Where were the supposed advocates of "ethical capitalism," who posit social responsibility but whose friends seem to repeatedly be caught with their fingers in the cookie jar, dating all the way back to Bernie Madoff?

Maybe, just maybe, the problem isn't with capitalism per se, and its chief admonition caveat emptor, its belief that trust is to be earned rather than granted freely. Maybe the problem is with a cadre of supposed protectors of the public who aren't out to protect the public at all, but to hobnob with other "change agents" from Bahamian estates while patting themselves on the back for all the good they're doing. 

[RLLD 4,230]

1 hour ago, Voltaire said:

The South needed the asskicking they took in the 1860s to end slavery and I'm glad they lost. But I am curious as to what goes through the minds of the people who still do fly that flag in 2022. I'm hoping most of them still look at it the way Bo and Luke and Ronnie Van Zant and Gary Rossington did and not the way you presume they do.

Racism exists, there is no question about that.  People everywhere are racists. Not just the ones we can see on TV like Joy Reid et al, but in our communities.

I hope that can change, and I believe it can. I think the best we can hope for is improvement over a long period of time. The current actions of the left are severely impeding this.

That being said the main area of progress, and the most important, is that Democrats are finally not outwardly racist in their policies....government has stopped being pointedly racist in how it operates, as have businesses and universities etc.....unless you are Asian of course.

Now Democrats hurt minorities in more clever ways that are more difficult to attribute to them. 

[craftsman 1,045]

The 2022 midterm elections should all be settled in October of 2024. 

[TimHauck 2,856]

2 hours ago, Masshole said:

The FTX Dog That Didn't Bark | RealClearPolitics

That, after all, was what SBF was publicly attempting to do. He dumped $40 million into the midterm elections in support of Democrats; he donated $5.2 million to then-candidate Joe Biden during the 2020 election cycle. He had pledged the FTX foundation to hand out $1 billion in 2022. He did all of this in the name of supposed "effective altruism," a philosophy in which Left-wingers seek to use capitalism in order to enrich themselves, then dump the money into favored causes. "I wanted to get rich, not because I like money but because I wanted to give that money to charity," SBF told one interviewer.

"Effective altruism" is just another iteration of the World Economic Forum-approved "stakeholder capitalism" idea -- the idea that CEOs owe their shareholders nothing, but the world at large their time, money and resources. There is a reason that FTX had partnered with WEF -- a fact that WEF has now obscured by cleaning its website.

How many scam artists are using such "bluewashing" in order to cover for malfeasance -- all the while colluding with government figures to redraw regulations that benefit them? That, after all, was SBF's biggest scam: He was an advocate of particular types of regulation that benefitted him and used both familial and business connections in order to protect his corporatism.

And that's the dog that didn't bark here: Where were the regulators with whom SBF was close? Where were the supposed advocates of "ethical capitalism," who posit social responsibility but whose friends seem to repeatedly be caught with their fingers in the cookie jar, dating all the way back to Bernie Madoff?

Maybe, just maybe, the problem isn't with capitalism per se, and its chief admonition caveat emptor, its belief that trust is to be earned rather than granted freely. Maybe the problem is with a cadre of supposed protectors of the public who aren't out to protect the public at all, but to hobnob with other "change agents" from Bahamian estates while patting themselves on the back for all the good they're doing. 

I’ll ask again but I’m sure you’ll just respond with an unrelated link: How do you feel about FTX’s co-CEO donating $20 million to Republicans?

Of course FTX was a scam.  But that doesn’t mean he was working with Biden and Zelensky to launder money.  He gave money to politicians because he thought it would help his business.

Fox News doing their part to stoke this conspiracy theory.  Fair and balanced, lol.

 

 

 

 

 

[OldMaid 2,130]

4 hours ago, Voltaire said:

When I was a kid, call it the 70s and 80s, the Confederate flag was used to mean "Southern Pride". There was no racism associated with how it was portrayed in pop culture, meaning specifically in the band Lynyrd Skynyrd nor the Dukes of Hazzard TV show. I was in the north where we have zero affinity for it, where our forefathers fought to take it down, and where local schools are named "Lincoln" and "Grant" but I never begrudged the south their flag.

Since then, in fairness, I've been overseas now for 21 years and so don't have the pulse of the country anymore on such things. I don't know if it still retains that meaning of Southern Pride of if it really has morphed into the darker racist symbol it's detractors make it out to be.

The South needed the asskicking they took in the 1860s to end slavery and I'm glad they lost. But I am curious as to what goes through the minds of the people who still do fly that flag in 2022. I'm hoping most of them still look at it the way Bo and Luke and Ronnie Van Zant and Gary Rossington did and not the way you presume they do.

It’s a little bit of both. I’m sure some people still fly it as a sign of southern pride, but as Ravens mentioned down thread, it has also become a symbol of white nationalism within the Trump party.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,407]

So it became a symbol of white nationalism under Trump. Nobody was saying that it was that prior to Trump.  How about the swastika? Trump start that too? 

[OldMaid 2,130]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So it became a symbol of white nationalism under Trump. Nobody was saying that it was that prior to Trump.  How about the swastika? Trump start that too? 

Somebody needs to learn what the word within means. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,407]

Just now, OldMaid said:

Somebody needs to learn what the word within means. 

You need to learn what the word became means.