Djgb13 2,339 Posted January 11, 2023 Even CNN is throwing him under the bus over this https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRgPyWdP/ August 2022 WH Press Secretary says Biden “never mishandled classified information”. Guess more lies huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted January 11, 2023 22 minutes ago, Djgb13 said: Even CNN is throwing him under the bus over this https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRgPyWdP/ August 2022 WH Press Secretary says Biden “never mishandled classified information”. Guess more lies huh? I just assume everything KJP says is a lie or half truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted January 11, 2023 Just now, Ultra Max Power said: I just assume everything KJP says is a lie or half truth. What about this? Trump was impeached for FAR less https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRgPkht2/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,108 Posted January 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Djgb13 said: What about this? Trump was impeached for FAR less https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRgPkht2/ This will be example 1487364836 of things the media told us was a conspiracy theory that’s turns out to be true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,047 Posted January 11, 2023 Every Presidency has big scandals and minor scandals. I judge this, based on what I’m reading, to be a minor scandal. But I guess we will see. If Republicans think it’s a big scandal then they’ll devote a House investigation to it. But I suspect they will stick with investigating the Hunter Biden stuff as potentially more damaging. Just a hunch. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,047 Posted January 11, 2023 I’m also surprised that so many people seem to believe that Biden isn’t running for re-election. He’s told friends and family that he is. And if he does decide to run again, no Democrat is going to challenge him. A lot could happen this year, obviously, But for the moment I think it’s reasonable to assume that Joe Biden will be the Democratic nominee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,363 Posted January 11, 2023 Just now, Dizkneelande said: The leftist sycophantic media says what Trump did was much worse. The double standards are off the charts. they don't even bother to try hiding it at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted January 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Every Presidency has big scandals and minor scandals. I judge this, based on what I’m reading, to be a minor scandal. But I guess we will see. If Republicans think it’s a big scandal then they’ll devote a House investigation to it. But I suspect they will stick with investigating the Hunter Biden stuff as potentially more damaging. Just a hunch. This story is barely mentioned on the CNN website front page, and its context is that it has been added to the growing list of things the House plans to investigate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted January 11, 2023 So what we all know is true. Deep state exists https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRgP78RQ/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted January 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Djgb13 said: So what we all know is true. Deep state exists https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRgP78RQ/ What a bunch of nonsense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,047 Posted January 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: This story is barely mentioned on the CNN website front page, and its context is that it has been added to the growing list of things the House plans to investigate. If all the House does with their 2 years is investigate Biden scandals, it won’t be a Republican House very long. They’re supposed to be trying to help bring inflation down, that’s why they were elected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted January 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: What a bunch of nonsense. That focking ass hole believes everything he reads on Tiktok. Scary that he appears to have procreated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,596 Posted January 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: What a bunch of nonsense. Are you really denying that unelected permanent entities, and NGO’s wield an inordinate level of power in our government? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,596 Posted January 11, 2023 Just now, Shooter McGavin said: That focking ass hole believes everything he reads on Tiktok. Scary that he appears to have procreated. Sure. There is no power besides those we elect. Is that your claim? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted January 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: What a bunch of nonsense. CSpan bro. Get with the truth NPC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted January 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: That focking ass hole believes everything he reads on Tiktok. Scary that he appears to have procreated. Seeing as how it’s actual government politicians and news stations and videos from the people’s own mouths? Yea, I’d believe that. Not some random ass person on Twitter or your liberal media when they’ve been proven to lie and been caught in them. But yea, by all means McRapey keep being the NPC you are Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,047 Posted January 11, 2023 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Are you really denying that unelected permanent entities, and NGO’s wield an inordinate level of power in our government? That would be foolish to deny. But the concept of the “deep state” goes beyond that: it presumes that these folks wield power in coordination with one another for deliberate, nefarious conspiratorial purposes. THAT I deny. There’s never been any evidence of it. It’s a MAGA fantasy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted January 11, 2023 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: If all the House does with their 2 years is investigate Biden scandals, it won’t be a Republican House very long. They’re supposed to be trying to help bring inflation down, that’s why they were elected. This is exactly what I was saying with the speaker vote. Sure, the far right made McCarthy its beyatch, but now the House is going to be splintered between Democrats, moderate Republicans and the MAGAtards. The only way for anything to get done is bipartisan support that alienates the uncompromising, hyperventilating far-right knuckleheads and their endless conspiracy theories. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted January 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: If all the House does with their 2 years is investigate Biden scandals, it won’t be a Republican House very long. They’re supposed to be trying to help bring inflation down, that’s why they were elected. I often where inflation would be without the help of the J6 committee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted January 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: That focking ass hole believes everything he reads on Tiktok. Scary that he appears to have procreated. He links to TikTok talking about CNN but doesn't actually go to the CNN website, where he would find a relatively buried story about the GOP reaction. The Biden story broke Monday, so I don't have a problem with the focus today being on the GOP reaction. Right-wing infotainment sources such as Newsmax go straight for the spin their viewers want to see. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted January 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Djgb13 said: Seeing as how it’s actual government politicians and news stations and videos from the people’s own mouths? Yea, I’d believe that. Not some random ass person on Twitter or your liberal media when they’ve been proven to lie and been caught in them. But yea, by all means McRapey keep being the NPC you are So you believe everything an elected official says, like when Biden said that if you get the vaccine then you won't get covid, you believe that? Of course not, you only believe what you want to believe, we know who you are. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,047 Posted January 11, 2023 Just now, Ultra Max Power said: I often were inflation would be without the help of the J6 committee. But see that’s my whole point. Personally I thought the J6 committee hearings were important. But voters, by a small margin, disagreed: they didn’t want to look backwards, they wanted to fight inflation. That’s the main reason the Democrats lost the House. Now the Republicans appear to be repeating the same error. I don’t think the voters care much about Biden scandals; I think they care about inflation and the economy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted January 11, 2023 Also I see digby learned the term NPC recently and it's best insult now. For those of you that don't know, NPC = Non Playable Character. They are the characters in video games that have no brain, personality, or soul. They are just your basic looking people that are programmed to do one thing. My kids started using this as an ironic insult last year. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted January 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: So you believe everything an elected official says, like when Biden said that if you get the vaccine then you won't get covid, you believe that? Of course not, you only believe what you want to believe, we know who you are. Why not? You do. How come NOW it’s different? Oh that’s right, it’s cause it’s something YOU don’t like Point Proven ✌ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted January 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: But see that’s my whole point. Personally I thought the J6 committee hearings were important. But voters, by a small margin, disagreed: they didn’t want to look backwards, they wanted to fight inflation. That’s the main reason the Democrats lost the House. Now the Republicans appear to be repeating the same error. I don’t think the voters care much about Biden scandals; I think they care about inflation and the economy. I think a GOP house fights inflation simply by stopping Biden's spending spree. Leaves a lot of time for investigations at that point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted January 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: Whining a lot today aren’t ya? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted January 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: That would be foolish to deny. But the concept of the “deep state” goes beyond that: it presumes that these folks wield power in coordination with one another for deliberate, nefarious conspiratorial purposes. THAT I deny. There’s never been any evidence of it. It’s a MAGA fantasy. but its ok for Biden to give a major speech flanked by Marines effectively calling all MAGA republicans traitors right? here you are, saying conspiracy is bunk, and then you use the term MAGA to suggest trump supporters are conspiring against the nation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted January 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Djgb13 said: Why not? You do. How come NOW it’s different? Oh that’s right, it’s cause it’s something YOU don’t like Point Proven ✌ Are we talking about the Deep State? I don't think we have a deep state no, but it's also not something I like, or want. I just haven't seen enough for me to believe it exists. And it's not something that becomes "Truth" because one man says it on CSPAN. Get it? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted January 11, 2023 1 minute ago, JustinCharge said: but its ok for Biden to give a major speech flanked by Marines effectively calling all MAGA republicans traitors right? here you are, saying conspiracy is bunk, and then you use the term MAGA to suggest trump supporters are conspiring against the nation. A lot of hypocrisy with these idiots today. It’s hilarious seeing them flounder and try to recover from looking like morons. They’ve mastered that since they’re doing it every day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted January 11, 2023 Just now, Shooter McGavin said: Are we talking about the Deep State? I don't think we have a deep state no, but it's also not something I like, or want. I just haven't seen enough for me to believe it exists. And it's not something that becomes "Truth" because one man says it on CSPAN. Get it? Floundering again I see Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted January 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Djgb13 said: Whining a lot today aren’t ya? I actually have to go to a mall store to pick up an outfit for an '80s-themed party the wife and I are going to Saturday. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,047 Posted January 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: but its ok for Biden to give a major speech flanked by Marines effectively calling all MAGA republicans traitors right? here you are, saying conspiracy is bunk, and then you use the term MAGA to suggest trump supporters are conspiring against the nation. I don’t think they’re conspiring against the nation, and I don’t believe that Biden called MAGA traitors, “effectively” or otherwise. You might want to examine what he did say a little more closely, and rely less perhaps on how right wing media distorted it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted January 11, 2023 Just now, The Real timschochet said: I don’t think they’re conspiring against the nation, and I don’t believe that Biden called traitors, “effectively” or otherwise. You might want to examine what he did say a little more closely, and rely less perhaps on how right wing media distorted it. but why do you support hate speech in the guise of press? how much hatred IS in your heart? i must be a lot to do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted January 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: Still whining I see. Go back down to the basement and take a nap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted January 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: Are we talking about the Deep State? I don't think we have a deep state no, but it's also not something I like, or want. I just haven't seen enough for me to believe it exists. And it's not something that becomes "Truth" because one man says it on CSPAN. Get it? There are behind-the-scenes forces at work all over the political spectrum. The far right came up with the buzzword term Deep State just to have something to use to demonize the left. Same thing with the term MSM. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted January 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I don’t think they’re conspiring against the nation, and I don’t believe that Biden called MAGA traitors, “effectively” or otherwise. You might want to examine what he did say a little more closely, and rely less perhaps on how right wing media distorted it. Biden called MAGA republicans fascists and threats to our democracy if you want to get technical about it. Biden is clearly doing his part to divide America. There is no denying that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,047 Posted January 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Ultra Max Power said: Biden called MAGA republicans fascists and threats to our democracy if you want to get technical about it. Biden is clearly doing his part to divide America. There is no denying that. Again read the actual speech. He was very specific. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,939 Posted January 11, 2023 6 hours ago, Shooter McGavin said: Rusty trying to roast digby for going to the mall instead of the grand canyon or a Metallica concert is one of the more pathetic things I've seen here in recent history I know right? I was going to post something like "we had an hour to kill, so instead of stopping at the mall we drove up to the Grand Canyon and did a rim to rim to rim hike. 29 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: If all the House does with their 2 years is investigate Biden scandals, it won’t be a Republican House very long. They’re supposed to be trying to help bring inflation down, that’s why they were elected. I thought the "Inflation Reduction Act" was supposed to do that. Wait no, it actually isn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,047 Posted January 11, 2023 Here is the text of Biden’s speech about MAGA: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/09/01/remarks-by-president-bidenon-the-continued-battle-for-the-soul-of-the-nation/ I don’t agree with everything he said here. MAGA is a set of beliefs and some of them are loosely connected; not every person who describes themselves as “MAGA” believe everything that Biden described. In addition many MAGA people honestly believed that the 2020 election result was corrupt, and I wouldn’t call them anti-American for doing so. These are, IMO, major flaws in Biden’s statement. That being said, I think he was mostly accurate here. And while the speech did nothing to reduce our current divisiveness, it correctly defined IMO the main source of that divisiveness. So I think it was very important. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,596 Posted January 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: There are behind-the-scenes forces at work all over the political spectrum. The far right came up with the buzzword term Deep State just to have something to use to demonize the left. Same thing with the term MSM. When the intel agencies, other federal agencies, federal law enforcement and the military and NGO’s were perceived to be under the control of the right, the left referred to them as a “shadow government “. And they needed to be reigned in. Now that the right refers to them as the “deep state” and say they need to be reigned in. it’s just a conspiracy theory. Some of us have a decent memory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites