DonS 3,292 Posted January 12, 2023 59 minutes ago, Djgb13 said: Seriously. If I left with ANY classified documents, hell even if I left with a patient schedule, I’d be arrested and brought up on charges. But classified documents in not only an unsecured drawer but also in a garage? Yea, that’s treason and jail time. EXPLICITLY stated in my briefings when I was in that if we left with ANY classified documents, pictures, recordings, etc. we WOULD be thrown in jail and prosecuted to the fullest extent I wonder if my annual security clearance refresher will be updated to explicitly state NOT to leave classified docs in an unsecured garage? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: So per the Biden’s there are two important distinctions between this situation and the Trump one: 1. It was accidental, not deliberate. 2. Unlike with Trump, Biden’s people have cooperated with the DOJ the whole time. IF these assertions are true (and I have no way of knowing) then while this is an embarrassment for Biden, it’s not going to be a big deal. That being said I think that given that this has now happened twice, Garland should probably appoint a special counsel. Trump had the ability to declassify, Biden did not. Trump had the documents secured, Biden did not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,406 Posted January 12, 2023 This arrogant Fock to actually claim it was safe in file cabinets because his Corvette is there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,753 Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said: Trump had the ability to declassify, Biden did not. Trump had the documents secured, Biden did not. 1. There’s no evidence that Trump declassified anything. 2. Can you prove either assertion? Because both appear to be highly disputed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,406 Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, The Real timschochet said: 1. There’s no evidence that Trump declassified anything. 2. Can you prove either assertion? Because both appear to be highly disputed. He said ability. That can be argued. Biden didn’t have the authority. That is not in dispute. Read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted January 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, DonS said: I wonder if my annual security clearance refresher will be updated to explicitly state NOT to leave classified docs in an unsecured garage? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: 1. There’s no evidence that Trump declassified anything. 2. Can you prove either assertion? Because both appear to be highly disputed. Hey dumbass. One was illegal. The other was not. Do you see the difference? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted January 12, 2023 17 minutes ago, supermike80 said: Selective prosecution.....he cant go after Trump now I have two thoughts on this. My first thought is, Fock that. Go get these politicians, that is what is supposed to happen, stop allowing these people to abbuae their positions My second thought is, oh yes he will go after Trump…. You think these people have ANY shame? You think they will suddenly become philosophically honest? Please…. He will give Biden a pass, go after Trump and give us all the finger as he does it….Democrats do not give a fooooxk…. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,753 Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Djgb13 said: Hey dumbass. One was illegal. The other was not. Do you see the difference? Not really because if Trump didn’t declassify (and there remains no evidence whatsoever that he did) them what Trump did is illegal as well. Though in both cases I don’t care because I think they were both likely accidental. That being said there IS a big difference if the news can be believed: Biden’s people, once the error was discovered, have cooperated; Trump did not. That’s what places Trump in some legal jeopardy according to most experts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,907 Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, RLLD said: I have two thoughts on this. My first thought is, Fock that. Go get these politicians, that is what is supposed to happen, stop allowing these people to abbuae their positions My second thought is, oh yes he will go after Trump…. You think these people have ANY shame? You think they will suddenly become philosophically honest? Please…. He will give Biden a pass, go after Trump and give us all the finger as he does it….Democrats do not give a fooooxk…. Im saying if they go after Trump, and not Biden, his lawyers can claim selective prosecution and that's the end of that. Considering there is literally zero chance Biden will be charged with any crime, they can't charge Trump either and expect to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Not really because if Trump didn’t declassify (and there remains no evidence whatsoever that he did) them what Trump did is illegal as well. Though in both cases I don’t care because I think they were both likely accidental. That being said there IS a big difference if the news can be believed: Biden’s people, once the error was discovered, have cooperated; Trump did not. That’s what places Trump in some legal jeopardy according to most experts. Just stop. I’ll capitalize everything so your dumbass can make sure to read it and comprehend it. BIDEN POSSESSING THEM IS ILLEGAL!!!!!! Full stop. That’s all you need to know. Trump at least had them LEGALLY. Biden even POSSESSING them is ILLEGAL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,406 Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Not really because if Trump didn’t declassify (and there remains no evidence whatsoever that he did) them what Trump did is illegal as well. Though in both cases I don’t care because I think they were both likely accidental. That being said there IS a big difference if the news can be believed: Biden’s people, once the error was discovered, have cooperated; Trump did not. That’s what places Trump in some legal jeopardy according to most experts. What’s the process for a president to declassify documents? Also, what’s the process for a VP to do it? As long as we're looking for proof. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,753 Posted January 12, 2023 In any case, per the title of this thread, things actually DO look good for Joe at the moment despite this situation- because the inflation issue appears to be dying down and the economy is booming. If this continues he’s going to be re-elected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,753 Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Djgb13 said: Just stop. I’ll capitalize everything so your dumbass can make sure to read it and comprehend it. BIDEN POSSESSING THEM IS ILLEGAL!!!!!! Full stop. That’s all you need to know. Trump at least had them LEGALLY. Biden even POSSESSING them is ILLEGAL Trump didn’t have them legally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted January 12, 2023 Having a tough time processing the "accidental" angle. Whoops, were those classified documents?! The box looked exactly like the box with my collector bobbleheads in it. Same, size, color and everything. Those darn movers must have grabbed the wrong box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Trump didn’t have them legally. YES he did. HE was president. HE is able to have them legally. Biden does NOT. Now shut the fock up you focking monkey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,753 Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: What’s the process for a president to declassify documents? Also, what’s the process for a VP to do it? 1. I don’t know the process, but the evidence suggests that whatever it is Trump didn’t do it. 2. A VP doesn’t have the power to declassify; what Biden did was illegal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: In any case, per the title of this thread, things actually DO look good for Joe at the moment despite this situation- because the inflation issue appears to be dying down and the economy is booming. If this continues he’s going to be re-elected. Focking retard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,753 Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, Djgb13 said: YES he did. HE was president. HE is able to have them legally. Biden does NOT. Now shut the fock up you focking monkey He had them past the time he was President. Therefore it’s illegal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, The Real timschochet said: He had them past the time he was President. Therefore it’s illegal. And guess what? He can declassify them which is prob what he did. But you’ll say “wE dOnT kNoW tHaT” like the typical monkey you are Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,753 Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Djgb13 said: Focking retard You seem to love these personal attacks. I can assure you they do nothing to help your arguments. If you want to take issue with something I’ve written then do your best to prove me wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: You seem to love these personal attacks. I can assure you they do nothing to help your arguments. If you want to take issue with something I’ve written then do your best to prove me wrong. Shut up monkey you know you’ve been proven wrong by everyone here but your dumbass pushes through Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted January 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, supermike80 said: Im saying if they go after Trump, and not Biden, his lawyers can claim selective prosecution and that's the end of that. Considering there is literally zero chance Biden will be charged with any crime, they can't charge Trump either and expect to win. I do not share your optimism these efforts toward Trump are obviously just efforts to keep him in the news in a negative light. in every instance, they were always doomed to failure. This was obvious, but they did it anyway, because it wasn’t about actually getting him. It was about denigrating him. I just don’t see how this instance will be any different Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,753 Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, Djgb13 said: And guess what? He can declassify them which is prob what he did. But you’ll say “wE dOnT kNoW tHaT” like the typical monkey you are He can’t declassify them AFTER he is President. He would have had to do that before leaving the White House. It’s a drawn out procedure with much paperwork involved. There is no evidence that this happened and nobody has testified or asserted otherwise. I think therefore a reasonable assumption is that he didn’t declassify them, and therefore broke the law. You’re welcome to assume otherwise but I don’t think you have much of a leg to stand on. You’re just wishing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, The Real timschochet said: He can’t declassify them AFTER he is President. He would have had to do that before leaving the White House. It’s a drawn out procedure with much paperwork involved. There is no evidence that this happened and nobody has testified or asserted otherwise. I think therefore a reasonable assumption is that he didn’t declassify them, and therefore broke the law. You’re welcome to assume otherwise but I don’t think you have much of a leg to stand on. You’re just wishing. Monkey monkey monkey. That’s all you’re good for. Dance for me monkey. Do as your masters tell you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,907 Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, RLLD said: I do not share your optimism these efforts toward Trump are obviously just efforts to keep him in the news in a negative light. in every instance, they were always doomed to failure. This was obvious, but they did it anyway, because it wasn’t about actually getting him. It was about denigrating him. I just don’t see how this instance will be any different Well the bonus is the law is still pretty much the law. The dems can continue to smear him in the media, and they will, but as far as legally, if he's charged and they do not charge Biden, he will get off and it will be another liberal time waster Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: He can’t declassify them AFTER he is President. He would have had to do that before leaving the White House. It’s a drawn out procedure with much paperwork involved. There is no evidence that this happened and nobody has testified or asserted otherwise. I think therefore a reasonable assumption is that he didn’t declassify them, and therefore broke the law. You’re welcome to assume otherwise but I don’t think you have much of a leg to stand on. You’re just wishing. This dude's troll game is an 11\10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Reality said: This dude's troll game is an 11\10. 100% dude is a focking moron and actually believes what he’s saying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,753 Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, RLLD said: I do not share your optimism these efforts toward Trump are obviously just efforts to keep him in the news in a negative light. in every instance, they were always doomed to failure. This was obvious, but they did it anyway, because it wasn’t about actually getting him. It was about denigrating him. I just don’t see how this instance will be any different Hey RLLD I actually don’t fully disagree with you. I do believe that some of the stuff against Trump is designed to keep him in a negative light. I’ve never been much impressed with this classified doc investigation, I’m pretty sure it was all a screwup. I also think that, while Trump’s performance on January 6 was morally rotten and IMO worthy of impeachment and removal, it will be almost impossible to prove he did anything criminally wrong and thus any prosecution resulting from that will be over the top. That said I don’t think this applies to ALL the investigations. Specifically the Georgia thing is really serious. Trump is on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to come up with votes for him. That’s a criminal act and I believe he should go to jail for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,753 Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Djgb13 said: 100% dude is a focking moron and actually believes what he’s saying Thank you at least for stating that I believe what I am saying. That’s true. No trolling involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted January 12, 2023 I see no reason to drag monkeys into this discussion. I like monkeys. Baboons sort of intimidate me, but generally I am good with simians. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,753 Posted January 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, supermike80 said: Well the bonus is the law is still pretty much the law. The dems can continue to smear him in the media, and they will, but as far as legally, if he's charged and they do not charge Biden, he will get off and it will be another liberal time waster Neither is going to be charged for this issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: Thank you at least for stating that I believe what I am saying. That’s true. No trolling involved. I'm adjusting your score, 12\10 Nice work bro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted January 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Hey RLLD I actually don’t fully disagree with you. I do believe that some of the stuff against Trump is designed to keep him in a negative light. I’ve never been much impressed with this classified doc investigation, I’m pretty sure it was all a screwup. I also think that, while Trump’s performance on January 6 was morally rotten and IMO worthy of impeachment and removal, it will be almost impossible to prove he did anything criminally wrong and thus any prosecution resulting from that will be over the top. That said I don’t think this applies to ALL the investigations. Specifically the Georgia thing is really serious. Trump is on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to come up with votes for him. That’s a criminal act and I believe he should go to jail for it. Thanks, I see your point, makes sense. I will remain a little cheesed off at Democrats using our tax money to pursue political outcomes to benefit them as they have done, I hope they stop doing this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,753 Posted January 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, RLLD said: Thanks, I see your point, makes sense. I will remain a little cheesed off at Democrats using our tax money to pursue political outcomes to benefit them as they have done, I hope they stop doing this Unfortunately both parties do far too much of this. We’re about to spend millions of taxpayer dollars investigating Hunter Biden. In lieu of what the Democrats did I get it; alls fair in love and war. But I’m also guessing it will be a colossal waste of money. And in the end what is accomplished? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,406 Posted January 12, 2023 21 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: He can’t declassify them AFTER he is President. He would have had to do that before leaving the White House. It’s a drawn out procedure with much paperwork involved. There is no evidence that this happened and nobody has testified or asserted otherwise. I think therefore a reasonable assumption is that he didn’t declassify them, and therefore broke the law. You’re welcome to assume otherwise but I don’t think you have much of a leg to stand on. You’re just wishing. So why hasn’t he been charged? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted January 12, 2023 Garland is speaking in 15 minutes. Not sure if it is related to this situation or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,406 Posted January 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Hey RLLD I actually don’t fully disagree with you. I do believe that some of the stuff against Trump is designed to keep him in a negative light. I’ve never been much impressed with this classified doc investigation, I’m pretty sure it was all a screwup. I also think that, while Trump’s performance on January 6 was morally rotten and IMO worthy of impeachment and removal, it will be almost impossible to prove he did anything criminally wrong and thus any prosecution resulting from that will be over the top. That said I don’t think this applies to ALL the investigations. Specifically the Georgia thing is really serious. Trump is on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to come up with votes for him. That’s a criminal act and I believe he should go to jail for it. Why hasn’t he been charged? And FYI, he asking them to disqualify votes that were already cast , not find new ones. Big difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted January 12, 2023 https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/01/biden-corvette-055.jpg NYPOST found the stash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted January 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Unfortunately both parties do far too much of this. We’re about to spend millions of taxpayer dollars investigating Hunter Biden. In lieu of what the Democrats did I get it; alls fair in love and war. But I’m also guessing it will be a colossal waste of money. And in the end what is accomplished? I am eager to have the Hunter Biden laptop explored in full. I want to know where the money funneled to Joe through Hunter came from, and then see if any policies implemented by Joe correlate to benefit those sources of money I do not see this as an extravagant move. I think. The American people should have this explored Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
