Kyle Rittenhouse faces civil lawsuit

[BuckSwope 654]

12 minutes ago, jonmx said:

But you are.  Your side bitches and bitches about why was Kyle there insinuating it was his mere presence which brought on the assaults.   

No, I'm not. 

I don't think it's the same to say he shouldn't be there and he deserves to get assaulted or killed.   Two very different things.  

 To me It's dumb because along with the destruction and potential loss of life from the idiot looters, adding untrained people to the mix with guns greatly increases the odds for more loss of life and injury.   That doesn't mean I think his punishment should be injury or death.  

 

 

[squistion 1,952]

52 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Nope. Lovely Maxine didn’t endorse the riots the way she did in 1992, but she didn’t condemn them either. 
Sorry I know you feel the urge to defend every liberal or leftist and I get that, but Maxine Waters is a despicable human being who has done more damage to liberal causes than any conservative ever could. 

Did she make any statement at all? Was she asked by any reporter to comment? Geebus. 

You effin hate Maxine Waters, always have and always will, based on some radio station interview you heard during the Rodney King riots that has never been completely verified (and no I don't want to relitigate that, people here can search in FBGs forums in they want to spend the time).

[MDC 7,130]

If a woman were walking around a bad part of town by herself late at night dressed provocatively, that wouldn’t justify her rape. But her own bad decisions would definitely have factored into the assault. 

 

 

[craftsman 1,045]

13 minutes ago, MDC said:

If a woman were walking around a bad part of town by herself late at night dressed provocatively, that wouldn’t justify her rape. But her own bad decisions would definitely have factored into the assault. 

 

 

And if she was attacked and she shot her attackers then she would be let free based on self defense. It's cute you found Rittenhouse provocatively dressed. You have a sick side to you. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

It would be great to see him blubbering like a whale just one more time on the stand, for old times sake.

[craftsman 1,045]

15 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

It would be great to see him blubbering like a whale just one more time on the stand, for old times sake.

It's great to see him alive and his violent attackers dead. Justice was done right that day. 

[jonmx 2,424]

8 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

It would be great to see him blubbering like a whale just one more time on the stand, for old times sake.

The thirst for blood the left has from anything conservative is why I sincerely believe the modern leftist is a kin to Nazis.   The lust for authoritarian power and the desire to see those inferior types tortured and locked up.  It is really quite sickening that humans fall for such ideology.  But here we are with the left exposing bigotry and hate and expansion of state powers to control speech, education, protests, guns, religion.  

[League Champion 1,896]

8 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

It would be great to see him blubbering like a whale just one more time on the stand, for old times sake.

Stop, that Kyle is a good Kid. The Snowflakes made him do it in self defense. He needs a statue immediately. 

[League Champion 1,896]

 

[squistion 1,952]

2 hours ago, League Champion said:

 

How many did Simpkins kill? That may have had something to do with it. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,934]

What are the chances of going to a BLM/ Antifa riot and shooting 3 people you don’t know and two of them end up being convicted pedophiles? 

[squistion 1,952]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What are the chances of going to a BLM/ Antifa riot and shooting 3 people you don’t know and two of them end up being convicted pedophiles? 

Only one was a convicted pedophile, Joseph Rosenbaum.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,934]

24 minutes ago, squistion said:

Only one was a convicted pedophile, Joseph Rosenbaum.

My bad. The other guy was a convict though. 

[RLLD 4,143]

Why is this kid still a topic? 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

On 2/5/2023 at 7:32 PM, craftsman said:

It's great to see him alive and his violent attackers dead. Justice was done right that day. 

 

Three different things can be true at the same time 

1) Rittenhouse was intentionally "persecuted" because to do so fit a very specific political narrative for Team Blue. Biden using Rittenhouse in a video to effectively call him a white supremacist and to comment on the kid's ongoing legal case is beyond partisan and beyond repugnant. Many MSM outlets, pure activists, outright lied about Rittenhouse in their stories and videos. 

2) Rittenhouse is a complete and total idiot. If he was defending his own family business and stayed on his own property lines, because that was the means to pay the rent and put food on the table for his single mom and sisters, then so be it. If he had to go out to save one of his sisters from harm, and did whatever was necessary to bring her back alive, then so be it. But he went out and was in a place where he didn't need to be. He was also, tragically, the only male in his household. The father is/was apparently some kind of deadbeat. The mother was, by all accounts, marginally employed. His job is to find a way to protect and provide for his mother and sisters. By risking his life like that, he risked his ability to protect them. I get that some say he was trying to defend his community. My answer is the same as always - Get your own house in order first, then see about helping others. That's not selfish. 

3) Just because Rittenhouse is an imbecile doesn't mean he's removed from the ability to act in self defense. The kid was lucky. There was video. And his assailants were indefensible based on their past records. This kid was WAY WAY WAY LUCKY. He could have been killed. He could have shot an innocent person in the background by mistake. There was a lot that could have gone very wrong for him very quickly. 

Nothing Rittenhouse did helped the Pro 2A movement. He didn't do a single thing to help law abiding gunowners anywhere. The narrative for specifically gun rights is totally toxic around Rittenhouse. 

So for the rest of his life, he will get death threats. Legitimate ones. So will his family. Think about the pain, stress and financial turmoil he put his mother and sisters through during this entire ordeal. I don't agree with the gutless BS that Team Blue did to him to score political points, but the kid has to think about his actual family. Now his mom and sisters will have to look over their shoulders the rest of their lives. Again, if the "defense" was his own property and a business of his family, that's different. So be it. But none of this had to happen. 

This is a story about one dumb@ass kid running into more dipsh!ts, who happened to be criminals, in a full blown riot. I don't see "justice" here, I really don't. The kid was lucky. Without that footage and without the massive financial legal warchest because he also fit the GOP agenda at the time, he would have been convicted, and then to seal the back end off, the establishment Democrats would have had him put down in prison. Just to make sure. To fit the right "narrative" 

Personally, I believe anywhere in America, once a riot is declared, small business owners should put road flares around their property line. Anyone who crosses it can be shot without legal penalty. I'd like to see a Constitutional Amendment passed to support that. Those thugs and gutless scum out there aren't just burning and looting a diner or a clothing store, it's a means for someone to put food on the table for their children. You don't mess with a man's capacity to feed his family. You just don't do it. 

I honestly find it ridiculous that there are statues of George Floyd out there. He's a career criminal and a deadbeat dad. He "allegedly" stuck a gun in the belly of a pregnant woman as he was robbing her. Why not Mae Carol Jemison or Gladys West?  In the same way, any Conservative 'pundit' who uplifts Rittenhouse ( think someone like Steven Crowder, etc), then how does that help Conservatism overall? The answer is it doesn't. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,934]

It’s ok that Biden calls him a white suoremacist  before his trial.  But let’s throw Trump in jail for “talking shitt”.  

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s ok that Biden calls him a white suoremacist  before his trial.  But let’s throw Trump in jail for “talking shitt”.  

 

 

"July was the 48th consecutive month with one million or more adjusted background checks, the best measure of retail gun sales."

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/july-marked-the-48th-straight-month-4-years-of-firearm-sales-over-1-million/

 

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I completely agree with your sentiments. I respect your sentiments. 

Clearly most of the current establishment Democrats and activist radical left have submitted to pure tyrannical authoritarian behavior in the open. Their gutless purity tests and drive for identity politics is indefensible. 

But to actually "win" regarding the entire Rittenhouse scandal and trial, Conservatives need to keep creating more responsible legal gun owners in this country. Four straight years and the numbers don't lie that show that each new gunowner becomes a new Pro 2A advocate. For non gun owners, when there are punitive restrictive gun laws, they don't feel like they are losing anything. They aren't invested ( It's the same with how many childless couples don't really pay much attention to what's going on in local school districts, actual parents there are more invested because it impacts them more)  But once someone becomes a gun owner, each ridiculous gun grabbing law looks more and more like tyranny. 

Team Blue is close to losing the overall "gun debate" in this country. If you Defund The Police, and keep bailing out career criminals and refuse to enforce actual civil order via bought and paid for rogue DA's through Soros, then the public will not respond well to more gun grabbing laws. New York is a hard line Blue stronghold. And Kathy Hochul almost lost to Lee Zeldin over law and order there, plus Hochul's idiotic attempts to take everyone's guns away after turning the city into a criminal cesspool. 

We, as Conservatives, can't focus on the hypocrisy, we have to get the practical numbers and logistics on our side. This is how Roe was overturned. It was a fight, inch by inch, for decades, at the local level, with fund raising and practical political advocacy in many small towns and areas. To win State Legislature seats, that were ready to move when Roe couldn't stand any longer. 

The radical left fails because it's feelings over facts. Feelings over pragmatism. Feelings over planning and strategy. Feelings over everything. Conservatives win through process, logistics, tactics and simply grinding it out inch by inch. We win via each new responsible gun owner, one at a time. 

Real victories are like the Wish Bone offense. You have a full back slam into defenders again and again and carve a path for the running back and you grind out yards a few a time, slow but steady progress. Chew up the clock,  wear down their defense, and stick to the long term plan. It's tedious, but it works. We can't focus on playing "their game", we need to play our own game. 

If Conservatives stay the course, then real retribution will happen soon enough in it's own time. 

 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

On 2/6/2023 at 3:44 AM, League Champion said:

Stop, that Kyle is a good Kid. The Snowflakes made him do it in self defense. He needs a statue immediately. 

 

 

Small dollar political donations. 

Team Blue and the DNC are far more heavily reliant on small dollar political donations than the GOP. This is why the BLM "protests" and looting/rioting was so profitable. Each major riot that happened, it created a groundswell in the national daily media cycle, of which the activist left leaning MSM was complicit, and it drove fundraising. Every donation to BLM was sent through the Act Blue portal, which allowed a kickback mechanism later to the DNC. Every small business that burned, Democrats in elected office got paid. Sad and pathetic as that becomes, that's what really happened. That's why Oregon refused to call in the National Guard until AFTER Biden won the general election. Didn't matter that the endless nights of rioting, burning and looting destroyed the practical local tax bases and blew up the budgets of many big cities. 

AOC is the ultimate litmus test on where small dollar donations stand with Team Blue. She has ZERO major big hitter corporate donors on her roster. ZERO. Establishment Democrats made it a point to choke her out financially, and through Obama and Clinton's cooked "Joint Finance Agreements" via DNC HQ. Ocasio Cortez is almost entirely reliant on working class people chipping in 20 dollars here or 50 dollars there. She "bent the knee" because she has one of the highest paid staffs in all of Congress and spends more on social media ad buys than anyone else in professional politics outside of POTUS contenders in a general election run. To hold her platform and stay relevant in the national daily media cycle, AOC is almost entirely reliant on social media engagement and almost non stop fundraising. 

Did climate change policy come through for young voters? 15 dollar minimum wage? Medicare For All? Student Loan Forgiveness on a broad scale? Free college for anyone who wants it? 

Her fundraising has tanked. So has every other Democrat up and down the ticket. This is what happens when you screw up the economy, play the stupid culture war game, go after kids in schools, push Pro-Trans extremism, rainbow flag everything up, cook up stupid "bail reform", Defund The Police, hit people at the gas pump, rent and grocery store prices, ruin the Southern Border and turn it into a swinging open gate, leave billions in weapons for terrorists in Afghanistan, demand everyone get the jab or lose their jobs, gaslight everyone with the activist MSM, declare war on the working class, screw with parents in every direction, and on and on and on and on. 

The more you choke out their money, the harder is for them to win elections. If they can't win, you don't see more stupid crap like London Breed paying 300 dollars a month for criminals not to shoot each other in public. Or vending machines with crack pipes in them in New York. 

What does this have to do with Rittenhouse? 

Every single time a Conservative pundit mentions Rittenhouse, it helps Team Blue's fundraising. This is part of the reason why the activist MSM went after the kid so hard for so long. He was a cash cow for DNC HQ. 

So, "No", don't put up a statue of Rittenhouse. Ignore him and pretend he doesn't exist. Then that helps choke Team Blue out financially. Which makes it easier for them to lose. And lose big. 

Win the war, not a few tiny pitched battles in the dark. Small fierce firefights in isolated patches don't change the landscape here. 

@League Champion , I have nothing but the greatest respect for you and you are one of my most favorite posters here in the GC. So I'm saying to trust me when I point out that it's best to leave Rittenhouse in the past and let's watch these Team Blue motherf**ers financially choke out. Let them starve. As Tony Soprano says - Everyone can suffer. Bring them right down to K Rations. 

[League Champion 1,896]

7 minutes ago, Blue Horseshoe said:

@League Champion , I have nothing but the greatest respect for you and you are one of my most favorite posters here in the GC. S

Likewise, mad respect my friend. 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

 

[Voltaire 5,202]

3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

My bad. The other guy was a convict though. 

All three were convicts, only the short one was a pedophile. Presumably, the unshot fourth attacker who refused to testify did so because he also had a criminal record, but that's speculation.

 

[jonmx 2,424]

3 hours ago, squistion said:

How many did Simpkins kill? That may have had something to do with it. 

Unlike Rittenhouse, Simpkins actually committed a crime.   

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

 

Kyle Rittenhouse is Richie Aprile. 

There's no win there. None at all. I don't agree with his political persecution. I also don't agree with his own personal choices to be out there that night. 

But when someone keeps presenting you with a lose/lose/lose situation, you have to cut bait on them. The kid get a second chance at life. Because, again, without the massive media coverage and fundraising from the Conservative base and Conservative media, Rittenhouse would have been convicted. And small dollar donations for Team Blue would have exploded and gone through the roof if Rittenhouse was put down in prison. 

In effect, for the money involved, had Rittenhouse been convicted, it would have been the same thing as a death sentence. 

Team Blue and DNC HQ had NO problem watching cities burn in 2020. Just sat back as working class small business owners got massacred in the open. Many of them minorities. The radical left didn't bat an eye. Do you think they would have hesitated to have someone carve up Rittenhouse like a fish in a cell somewhere for the upside of millions of dollars pumped through Act Blue for it? 

The kid clearly isn't smart enough to realize how close he came to getting full on buckwheats. 

Leave him in the rear view mirror. Better for him and better for all Conservatives. 

[jonmx 2,424]

5 minutes ago, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

The kid clearly isn't smart enough to realize how close he came to getting full on buckwheats. 

 

He knew exactly how close he was.  He waited until the last second in each case where his life would have ended if he did not act.  The most picture perfect execution of self-defense ever caught on film.  Incredible discipline and control of his weapon under extreme pressure.  

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

Just now, jonmx said:

He knew exactly how close he was.  He waited until the last second in each case where his life would have ended if he did not act.  The most picture perfect execution of self-defense ever caught on film.  Incredible discipline and control of his weapon under extreme pressure.  

 

 

No, I mean I don't believe Rittenhouse truly understands that he would have been assassinated if he had been convicted. 

Think about the media narratives in the activist left leaning MSM and through Big Social Media if Rittenhouse ended up buckwheats. Team Blue could have netted an easy 50 million in small dollar political donations and had the shrill cackles on The View screaming out that it was "justice"  He would have kept being smeared as a "white supremacist" and a MAGA related "militia extremist" as the dollars poured in. Someone would leak photos of him in a jail cell with his throat cut open. 

Let's just be honest about it here. The radical left and the core of the establishment Democrats clearly want us all dead. They want Conservatives wiped out eventually. Until then?  Silenced. Locked up. Fired from our jobs and careers. And when they can't come after us adults, they will go directly after our children. But yes, I agree, from a technical standpoint, Rittenhouse acted, in so far as the video shows, in self defense. He didn't fire until there was no alternative in his circumstances. However I still posit that being in the overall situation in the first place was under his control and still the choice to be there was an idiotic decision. 

I support Rittenhouse's right to defend himself under the principle of law, but still condemn him for being a dipsh!t dumb@ss kid who leans more and more into imbecile territory the more he speaks in front of a camera. But "Yes", many people would have done far worse for themselves in the same circumstances, from a purely tactical and technical standpoint, including many with far more training and experience. 

jon, I have always had a lot of love in my heart for you and you stood tall at the "other place" no matter the odds, you know that, but this Rittenhouse kid does ZERO to help Conservatives win the war against the radical left. He doesn't have a role in the big picture to help us all move forward and upward. 

[The Real timschochet 6,421]

Kyle Rittenhouse is a white supremacist idiot. He doesn’t deserve to be in jail for that. He deserves to be in jail, probably, for having committed murder. Unfortunately there’s not enough evidence to prove it. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,934]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Kyle Rittenhouse is a white supremacist idiot. He doesn’t deserve to be in jail for that. He deserves to be in jail, probably, for having committed murder. Unfortunately there’s not enough evidence to prove it. 

How is he a WHite supremacist ?

[squistion 1,952]

59 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Unlike Rittenhouse, Simpkins actually committed a crime.   

Rittenhouse committed crimes too, shooting three people, resulting in one homicide - that was why he charged and tried (but like OJ and George Zimmerman, he was acquitted by a jury). 

[jonmx 2,424]

37 minutes ago, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

No, I mean I don't believe Rittenhouse truly understands that he would have been assassinated if he had been convicted. 

Think about the media narratives in the activist left leaning MSM and through Big Social Media if Rittenhouse ended up buckwheats. Team Blue could have netted an easy 50 million in small dollar political donations and had the shrill cackles on The View screaming out that it was "justice"  He would have kept being smeared as a "white supremacist" and a MAGA related "militia extremist" as the dollars poured in. Someone would leak photos of him in a jail cell with his throat cut open. 

Let's just be honest about it here. The radical left and the core of the establishment Democrats clearly want us all dead. They want Conservatives wiped out eventually. Until then?  Silenced. Locked up. Fired from our jobs and careers. And when they can't come after us adults, they will go directly after our children. But yes, I agree, from a technical standpoint, Rittenhouse acted, in so far as the video shows, in self defense. He didn't fire until there was no alternative in his circumstances. However I still posit that being in the overall situation in the first place was under his control and still the choice to be there was an idiotic decision. 

I support Rittenhouse's right to defend himself under the principle of law, but still condemn him for being a dipsh!t dumb@ss kid who leans more and more into imbecile territory the more he speaks in front of a camera. But "Yes", many people would have done far worse for themselves in the same circumstances, from a purely tactical and technical standpoint, including many with far more training and experience. 

jon, I have always had a lot of love in my heart for you and you stood tall at the "other place" no matter the odds, you know that, but this Rittenhouse kid does ZERO to help Conservatives win the war against the radical left. He doesn't have a role in the big picture to help us all move forward and upward. 

I disagree.  It has been clear for a long time that the left views conservatives as inferior human beings and believes they should be treated unfairly.  Rittenhouse made it crystal clear that the authoritarian leftist feels Conservatives don't even deserve to live.  

People need to wake up to just how evil this leftist movement has become.  It is fundamentally no different than any of the totalitarian movements of the 20th century which will stop at nothing to eliminate the opposition. 

I listened to all these highly intelligent lawyers at FBG somehow rationalizing that the Riddenhouse case was not a complete political lynching, and it really blew my mind how stupid they really were.  Even Binger in open court admitted the case was political.  

[jonmx 2,424]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Kyle Rittenhouse is a white supremacist idiot. He doesn’t deserve to be in jail for that. He deserves to be in jail, probably, for having committed murder. Unfortunately there’s not enough evidence to prove it. 

Moronic belief #1,329,482 from our resident brownshirt. 

[jonmx 2,424]

16 minutes ago, squistion said:

Rittenhouse committed crimes too, shooting three people, resulting in one homicide - that was why he charged and tried (but like OJ and George Zimmerman, he was acquitted by a jury). 

Are you stupid?  Rhetorical, we all know the answer.  

Self-defense is not a crime and is certainly not Homicide.  In the OJ case his lawyers wisely packed the jury with a bunch of older black women, who sympathized with OJ and ignored the evidence of his clear guilt.  In the Rittenhouse case every second of the interaction was caught on tape and the jury made the positive determination that it was self-defense.   None of the evidence was ignored.  

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

24 minutes ago, jonmx said:

People need to wake up to just how evil this leftist movement has become.

 

You achieve that by winning lots of elections. 

Lee Zeldin held strong in New York and flipped seats. That small difference allowed the current Congressional hearings we are seeing right now. Jim Jordan, Josh Hawley, John Kennedy, Matt Gaetz and Elise Stefanik, whatever people think of them as individual politicians, are doing a strong job of dragging out a lot of critical issues from the past three years. Also in 2020, four House seats flipped for the GOP in California, when all campaigning was locked down almost completely. Those were staggering wins and they added up with the past Mid Terms to help Conservatives today. 

The easiest way to win elections is to cut off the other side's money supply. ( This is how Hillary Clinton took over the DNC and the entire Party apparatus in 2016, legacy "Joint Finance Agreements" basically created an open money laundering feudal system where down the ticket Democrat could fall in line or be choked out from the money train. None of this is a secret. Donna Brazile openly admitted it in the national daily media cycle because she wanted to avoid being stuck as the Team Blue patsy and be sent to prison)  Talking about Kyle Rittenhouse raises Team Blue's fund raising. 

You are correct in that activist radical leftists will never admit when they are wrong. Never. We can't change their minds. IMHO Conservatives should only engage to appeal to independents, moderates and undecideds on the sideline. 

You win lots of elections and you can change Section 230, which changes how Big Social Media operates. You win lots of elections and you put yourself in a better position to keep Conservatives on SCOTUS. You win lots of elections and you can pass more laws to stop the hard LGBT push into public schools. Look at Trump's shocking victory in 2016. It helped turn the tide for Roe Vs Wade. 

I want what you want. I'm just pushing the Gregg Williams angle here. Take the head off the snake. Which is always look for the money, and take out the money pipeline. Everything else will fall in place like dominos in a row. 

Look at the AOC example I pointed out. She was forced to "kiss the ring" because she ran out of money. She despises the establishment Democrats. And they hate her intensely right back. But she's in a corner now. So she has to surrender. Same thing can happen to Team Blue all up and down the ticket if their fund raising falls apart. 

Here's how national fundraising for the DNC started to collapse. Every GOP candidate has a media team searching for every photo and every video and every audio clip of their local Team Blue opponent with Joe Biden and/or Kamala Harris. Because it's poison. It's political poison to be a Democrat and be seen with Biden right now. That means all that material is being used in all campaigns for the Republican Party. If you vote for Congressman X, you are really voting for Joe Biden. That's toxic. 

You are right. I'll say it. But if you want the radical leftists here to say it, they never will. Going after them to say it is just a pathway for them to try to get you banned. That's all they want to do. Enrage you, bait you and then eventually Report Button all over you. 

If you want to argue, IMHO, do it with facts, stats, data, links, photos, PDFs, videos, articles, analysis, polling, etc, etc. The radical left always will perish under the weight of real facts. 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

4 hours ago, RLLD said:

Why is this kid still a topic? 

 

Rittenhouse will be used in a lot of campaigns FOR THE NEXT DECADE to try to push for more gun grabbing laws. 

Just because you can technically do something doesn't mean it's a good idea. Just because it's not illegal to walk out into a full blown riot doesn't make it a good idea. Just because you can carry an AR-15 with you out there during a riot doesn't make it a good idea. I'm not saying Rittenhouse should have just laid there and let people kill him. I'm saying Conservatives really need to play the long game and operate with no margin of error.  If you know you are being hunted the way Conservatives are persecuted, don't wear a figurative bright orange vest and jump up and down screaming for people to shoot at you. 

In 2020, in the Georgia battleground, the rule set for a disputed election requires a "Risk Limiting Audit"  The person who created the protocol ( actually a person who opposes Trump in real life) spoke up and said Secretary Of State Brad Raffensperger didn't actually follow protocol. He counted votes that were missing in a physical sense ( i.e. a misplaced or lost thumb drive) but did not assess for wrongly tabulated votes. 

Now when Trump called Governor Brad Kemp, he asked Kemp to use his "emergency powers" as Governor to overrule the SOS office, to force another RLA. One under protocol. While this is technically legal and while there is a good point here from the GOP, it was completely idiotic by Trump. Trump doesn't understand election law. He didn't even understand what he was asking Kemp. He was repeating what an analyst in private tried to explain to him. In the most idiotic way possible. Kemp was the previous Secretary of State when Stacey Abrams ran against him the first time for Governor. She sued Kemp and Georgia. She actually had a fair point ( I don't think she was right but Kemp was administering an election where he was a candidate, that's just plain stupid) So there was NO WAY Kemp was going to reopen that bottle of chaos for his own political survival to appease Trump. 

Trump did what Trump always does. Never shuts up. Talks about things where he's not actually an expert in the subject matter. Takes a bad situation and makes it worse. Every GOP official in Georgia down the ticket had to inherit the gigantic mess that Trump left behind. They had to answer questions about this madness long after Trump left. It very likely cost Perdue and Loffler their run off elections in the Senate. 

Technically speaking, from a legal standpoint, that call to Kemp did not break the law. But it was unethical. And it was a bad politics. And it showed a glaring lack of ability to "read a room" in the most mundane political sense. But Donald Trump cannot help but be an aggravating exhausting total moron. For no real purpose. For no real strategy. For no real point at all. 

Judge Amy Totenberg was an Obama appointee to the bench in Georgia. She OVERRULED the Georgia State Legislature to allow Dominion Voting Systems to be purchased by Raffensperger for the state for future elections. DVS did not meet the minimum guidelines for a voting system based on actual Georgia law. Totenberg's sister is Nina Totenberg of NPR, who is known Trump hater. So the judge got massive media cover for this madness. However no one can broach this issue because the only discussion in the media is about Trump's idiotic phone calls to Kemp and Raffensperger.  Amy Klobuchar and Elizabeth Warren drafted a letter denouncing DVS in May/June of 2020, during the primary season, in preparation to challenge voters later if Trump won the 2020 election. No one can talk about that either. Because the focus is on Trump and his stupid phone calls. Now these calls are part of one of the indictments and it's more media madness instead of talking about things like health care, civil order, the economy, gas prices, food prices, national security, the Border, etc, etc. Basically Trump is giving the activist MSM non stop fodder to AVOID talking about the failures of Team Blue and the Biden Administration. Trump's endless narcissism is actually helping Joe Biden right now. 

Just because Republicans and Conservatives can do something, doesn't mean they should. Just because they can ride the line sometimes, doesn't make that always a good idea. 

Rittenhouse hurt every law abiding gun owner in this country. The more anyone is exposed to that kid with a camera in his face, the harder it is to ignore that he's a total imbecile. This kid is in Ryan Leaf territory. Apt to sit on the TV and watch the couch. 

Rittenhouse like Trump is a lose/lose/lose situation. Conservatives and the GOP need to put those mindless morons in the rearview mirror. 

It's hard enough to win elections if you do everything "right" Why add more of this self inflicted chaos when it's not needed? 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

2 hours ago, jonmx said:

He knew exactly how close he was.  He waited until the last second in each case where his life would have ended if he did not act.  The most picture perfect execution of self-defense ever caught on film.  Incredible discipline and control of his weapon under extreme pressure.  

Well done jon.   spot on.  It was picture perfect self defense.  

[seafoam1 2,803]

Rittenhouse should have lawsuits against creepy joe for defamation.

[squistion 1,952]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

Are you stupid?  Rhetorical, we all know the answer.  

Self-defense is not a crime and is certainly not Homicide.  In the OJ case his lawyers wisely packed the jury with a bunch of older black women, who sympathized with OJ and ignored the evidence of his clear guilt.  In the Rittenhouse case every second of the interaction was caught on tape and the jury made the positive determination that it was self-defense.   None of the evidence was ignored.  

And people say the jury made the postive determination with OJ and the murderer George Zimmerman too.

[jonmx 2,424]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

And people say the jury made the postive determination with OJ and the murderer George Zimmerman too.

You are a legal illiterate.  Self-defense is a defense which you have to prove by preponderance of evidence.  OJ just had to cast doubt on the prosecutions case. 

[The Real timschochet 6,421]

New lawsuit: 

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/30/kyle-rittenhouse-sued-kenosha-anti-racism-protest

[5-Points 3,389]

28 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

New lawsuit: 

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/30/kyle-rittenhouse-sued-kenosha-anti-racism-protest

They will lose. That kid toucher's own actions brought about his demise. Nobody made him attack KR. 

[TheNewGirl 1,347]

FFS, how many times is this kid going to be sued? Jesus.