White people "get the hell away from black people"

[dogcows 1,030]

42 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

It just so happens, that if things go to plan, I'm personally going to be teaching social studies in one of the reddest parts of Florida come September. The national embarrassment that is Jim Crow will be included in the curriculum - unapologetically. I have zero fear of teaching this material nor do I fear getting reprimanded for doing so. 

Florida law is designed to keep CRT out of the classroom, not discussions of Jim Crow. This is just smoke-fed nonsense from the left who love CRT and want to push anti-Amerika bullsh*t. We learned bad things that happened in history when I was in school. I don't have to reinvent the wheel, I just have to approach it and teach it the way my own teachers did.

Thanks for your service teaching the kids. I wish you the best. Should be good for them to learn from somebody with an international perspective.

As for the Florida law, it was designed to stop something that wasn’t happening. CRT is a grad-level college topic, not one example of it being taught in Florida’s K-12 schools. Because the law was aimed at a bogeyman, it hit all sorts of other things, and that’s why judges have already stopped parts of it. Even the name of the law “Stop WOKE” tells you this is political pandering, and bad law. So yeah, honestly you shouldn’t be worried because even if they tried to lock up a teacher for a kid feeling guilt? I can’t imagine that passing constitutional muster.

[jerryskids 6,692]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

Actually, it's not the topic.  The topic was violence, which Gutter strawmanned into murder.  Of course you are most likely to be murdered by someone you know.  Regardless, even for violence the sheer number of encounters a person has with their own race vs. other races is very high.  This idiocy of "a white person is more likely to be killed by another white person" is the very essence of lying with statistics.  

 

3 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Maybe aware your friends here who think every black person they meet is gonna shank them.  I get that they're scared sheep, that's how conservatives keep their folks in line through fear, but the reality of the situation is that white folks are much much much more likely to be harmed by other white folks.

Math

Exhibit A

[iam90sbaby 2,544]

9 hours ago, Patented Phil said:

Stop being such a virtue-signaler. It’s cowardly.  You’re smart enough to know this is a broader and more nuanced issue.

Ed wore Fubu and Jncos in the 90s 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

15 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Actually, it's not the topic.  The topic was violence, which Gutter strawmanned into murder.  Of course you are most likely to be murdered by someone you know.  Regardless, even for violence the sheer number of encounters a person has with their own race vs. other races is very high.  This idiocy of "a white person is more likely to be killed by another white person" is the very essence of lying with statistics.  

We can do violent crime if you want.  See table 5.  You're still wrong.

Criminal Victimization, 2020 – Supplemental Statistical Tables https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv20sst.pdf

[dogcows 1,030]

16 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Actually, it's not the topic.  The topic was violence, which Gutter strawmanned into murder.  Of course you are most likely to be murdered by someone you know.  Regardless, even for violence the sheer number of encounters a person has with their own race vs. other races is very high.  This idiocy of "a white person is more likely to be killed by another white person" is the very essence of lying with statistics.  

Which is why saying “math” tells white people to be scared of black people is a bad argument. People can slice and dice and frame statistics all day long.

How about paying attention to one’s surroundings? If you teach kids to be scared only of black people in poor neighborhoods, will they ignore other drug-infested neighborhoods with mostly white people in them and get hurt? It’s a foolish thing to believe, and a bad thing to pass along to the next generation.

A much better way to teach kids, IMO, is what a friend’s mom told me (when I was a kid) when we were shocked about a crime that happened in a wealthy, nice suburban area… “Crime is everywhere.”

[GutterBoy 2,898]

I teach my kids to treat everyone as equal, every race, every gender, etc.

I also teach them to stay out of bad areas, keep your head on a swivel, watch out for shady behavior, and nothing good happens past 2am.

[iam90sbaby 2,544]

All the most dangerous cities in the US are an overwhelming majority black. You can't find one city in the top 100 where that isn't the case. All the safest cities in the US are a majority White, white Hispanic or Asian. It isn't a coincidence. You can't "slice and dice" those statistics, what the fock are you all talking about?

[iam90sbaby 2,544]

1 hour ago, Voltaire said:

It just so happens, that if things go to plan, I'm personally going to be teaching social studies in one of the reddest parts of Florida come September. The national embarrassment that is Jim Crow will be included in the curriculum - unapologetically. I have zero fear of teaching this material nor do I fear getting reprimanded for doing so. 

Florida law is designed to keep CRT out of the classroom, not discussions of Jim Crow. This is just smoke-fed nonsense from the left who love CRT and want to push anti-Amerika bullsh*t. We learned bad things that happened in history when I was in school. I don't have to reinvent the wheel, I just have to approach it and teach it the way my own teachers did.

Don't start spewing lefty nonsense those kids and their parents in red Florida will eat you alive 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

27 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

All the most dangerous cities in the US are an overwhelming majority black. You can't find one city in the top 100 where that isn't the case. All the safest cities in the US are a majority White, white Hispanic or Asian. It isn't a coincidence. You can't "slice and dice" those statistics, what the fock are you all talking about?

It's all about dem marshmallows

[jerryskids 6,692]

51 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

We can do violent crime if you want.  See table 5.  You're still wrong.

Criminal Victimization, 2020 – Supplemental Statistical Tables https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv20sst.pdf

What am I supposed to learn from that link that refutes what I said?

[GutterBoy 2,898]

Just now, jerryskids said:

What am I supposed to learn from that link that refutes what I said?

69% of violent crime against white victims was committed by white perps 

[RLLD 4,187]

1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said:

Maybe aware your friends here who think every black person they meet is gonna shank them.  I get that they're scared sheep, that's how conservatives keep their folks in line through fear, but the reality of the situation is that white folks are much much much more likely to be harmed by other white folks.

Math

Agree, but then perhaps there needs to be a much wider message available to everyone.  The issue is not isolated.  The people are exploited by both politicians as well as media now. Any instance with the proper mix of people, in the proper victim/victimizer setup, is exploited as some proof or example of a false narrative. It's now the norm, sadly. 

[iam90sbaby 2,544]

46 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

It's all about dem marshmallows

Now you're getting it

[Strike 5,367]

41 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

69% of violent crime against white victims was committed by white perps 

Jerry already addressed this point:

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Of course you are most likely to be murdered by someone you know.  Regardless, even for violence the sheer number of encounters a person has with their own race vs. other races is very high.  This idiocy of "a white person is more likely to be killed by another white person" is the very essence of lying with statistics.  

Do you not read the thread?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,192]

Glad that we can acknowledge that most crimes are committed within one’s own community. Keep that in mind when you hear about violence against lgbtq. 

[jerryskids 6,692]

13 minutes ago, Strike said:

Jerry already addressed this point:

Do you not read the thread?

Thanks, saved me the reply to him.  I'm heading out for the day, which is good because I realized that I've been wasting time arguing with people who don't believe irrefutable facts.

ETA:  And don't even bother to read a 5-sentence post before responding with attempted virtue signaling talking points.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,192]

Hispanics are going to make whites a minority in this country. But for the purposes of crime stats they are white.  Got it. I love you people. If you weren’t so dumb and easily led you might get everything you want.  

[GutterBoy 2,898]

26 minutes ago, Strike said:

Jerry already addressed this point:

Do you not read the thread?

Yes, and then Jerry accused me of moving the goalposts to murder, so I provided the violent crime numbers for him. Did you not read the thread?

[GutterBoy 2,898]

16 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Thanks, saved me the reply to him.  I'm heading out for the day, which is good because I realized that I've been wasting time arguing with people who don't believe irrefutable facts.

ETA:  And don't even bother to read a 5-sentence post before responding with attempted virtue signaling talking points.

Enjoy your day, and watch out for the  Blacks!  Be safe!

[Strike 5,367]

3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Yes, and then Jerry accused me of moving the goalposts to murder, so I provided the violent crime numbers for him. Did you not read the thread?

But your post didn't contradict the post you were replying to.  It's like you're trying to provide evidence of something, anything, that you think the non-critical mind will accept.  That's what you libs do.  Just throw out random numbers and/or statements that don't make sense or don't address the point and hope no one notices.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

But your post didn't contradict the post you were replying to.  It's like you're trying to provide evidence of something, anything, that you think the non-critical mind will accept.  That's what you libs do.  Just throw out random numbers and/or statements that don't make sense or don't address the point and hope no one notices.

Smh.

The point is that whites should be scared of blacks.  Data was thrown out showing that they shouldn't, but you and your side will make excuses for the data, while saying that you can't argue with data.  It's ridiculous.

We're at the point where your side is gonna be scared of blacks, and there is nothing that will change your opinion.

So, enjoy your Sunday and good luck.

[League Champion 1,908]

48 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

The point is that whites should be scared of blacks

You shouldn't be scared of anything but statistics do prove that they are a more violent breed, especially when in packs. Go walk down South Central at 1 in the morning and see how that goes for you. 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

The party that demonizes police and burns down cities because 12 unarmed blacks are killed per year, now wants to tell whites they are racist for fearing black men, who constitute only 6% of the population yet commit 52% of all crime.

Libtard math.  

[squistion 2,090]

26 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

The party that demonizes police and burns cities because 12 unarmed blacks are killed per year, now wants to tell whites they are racist for fearing black men when they are 6% of the population and commit 52% of all crime.

Libtard math.  

Figures are not correct and are misleading. The 13% of Blacks in this country do not commit 52% of all crime.

I found this on Reddit which explains it better than I can.

Do black people really commit 52% of crime in America? : r/TooAfraidToAsk (reddit.com)

That 52% of is homicide specifically - not all crime. See here.

If you’re only counting violent crime, then blacks are over represented - but not 52%.

It’s important to contextualize the reason though - a lot of that is related to gangs and the drug trade, which are problems in poor urban neighborhoods. Blacks are, on average, poorer for some probably obvious historical reasons.

A lot of types of crime are correlated to poverty.

Violent crime isn’t all crime though. When you look at crimes like fraud, insider trading, slander/libel, copyright violation and on and on - well, you get a pretty different picture.

 

 

[seafoam1 2,891]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

Figures are not correct and are misleading. The 13% of Blacks in this country do not commit 52% of all crime.

I found this on Reddit which explains it better than I can.

Do black people really commit 52% of crime in America? : r/TooAfraidToAsk (reddit.com)

That 52% of is homicide specifically - not all crime. See here.

If you’re only counting violent crime, then blacks are over represented - but not 52%.

It’s important to contextualize the reason though - a lot of that is related to gangs and the drug trade, which are problems in poor urban neighborhoods. Blacks are, on average, poorer for some probably obvious historical reasons.

A lot of types of crime are correlated to poverty.

Violent crime isn’t all crime though. When you look at crimes like fraud, insider trading, slander/libel, copyright violation and on and on - well, you get a pretty different picture.

 

 

So you say "figures are not correct and are misleading" then you give figures. 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

7 minutes ago, squistion said:

Figures are not correct and are misleading. The 13% of Blacks in this country do not commit 52% of all crime.

I found this on Reddit which explains it better than I can.

Do black people really commit 52% of crime in America? : r/TooAfraidToAsk (reddit.com)

That 52% of is homicide specifically - not all crime. See here.

If you’re only counting violent crime, then blacks are over represented - but not 52%.

It’s important to contextualize the reason though - a lot of that is related to gangs and the drug trade, which are problems in poor urban neighborhoods. Blacks are, on average, poorer for some probably obvious historical reasons.

A lot of types of crime are correlated to poverty.

Violent crime isn’t all crime though. When you look at crimes like fraud, insider trading, slander/libel, copyright violation and on and on - well, you get a pretty different picture.

You tell me then - what percentage of violent crime in America is committed by blacks?

I asked this EXACT question to ChatGPT just now.  Here’s the answer I got back:

As an AI language model, I cannot provide a biased answer to this question. It is important to avoid generalizations and stereotypes based on race or ethnicity. It is crucial to address the root causes of crime such as poverty, lack of education, unemployment, and other systemic issues that affect all communities, irrespective of race or ethnicity.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

8 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

You tell me then - what percentage of violent crime in America is committed by blacks?

I asked this EXACT question to ChatGPT just now.  Here’s the answer I got back:

As an AI language model, I cannot provide a biased answer to this question. It is important to avoid generalizations and stereotypes based on race or ethnicity. It is crucial to address the root causes of crime such as poverty, lack of education, unemployment, and other systemic issues that affect all communities, irrespective of race or ethnicity.

Chatgpt telling this dude not to be a racist lol

[seafoam1 2,891]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Chatgpt telling this dude not to be a racist lol

So numbers are racist? 

Liberals are so stupid. 

[squistion 2,090]

25 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

You tell me then - what percentage of violent crime in America is committed by blacks?

From any figures I have seen it is not 52% as you claim.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

29 minutes ago, squistion said:

From any figures I have seen it is not 52% as you claim.

I did not claim that.  I said 52% of all crime.  

I didn’t expect you to answer to answer the question.  You’re a chicken-shitt.  

[Patented Phil 1,469]

 

48 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

So numbers are racist? 

Liberals are so stupid. 

That ChatGPT response should terrify everyone.  The world’s leading AI platform has “learned” to withhold black crime statistics.

[squistion 2,090]

25 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

I did not claim that.  I said 52% of all crime.  

I didn’t expect you to answer to answer the question.  You’re a chicken-shitt.  

And that figure is incorrect. They don't commit 52% of all crime.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

13 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

 

That ChatGPT response should terrify everyone.  The world’s leading AI platform has “learned” to withhold black crime statistics.

Scared of blacks, terrified of AI.

BE A MAN! *slap* What's the matter with you.

[jerryskids 6,692]

1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

Chatgpt telling this dude not to be a racist lol

 

23 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

 

That ChatGPT response should terrify everyone.  The world’s leading AI platform has “learned” to withhold black crime statistics.

Yep.  It was a simple question of data, there was nothing racist about it.  Lefties like Gutter don't care though because ChatGPT is programmed to be in his camp.  

If we can't discuss data, we cannot address a problem.  It is irrefutable that more violent crime per capita is committed by blacks.  Is it environmental?  Genetic?  Some combo?  What can we do to improve things?  Don't know for all, because Gutter and DogCows instantly yell racist for even stating the data, I presume hoping it will just change at some point.

ETA:  I should clarify this is young black males.

[squistion 2,090]

8 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Scared of blacks, terrified of AI.

BE A MAN! *slap* What's the matter with you.

Why should anyone care of AI has to say in response to any question?

[dogcows 1,030]

People are mad that the chatbot has been programmed not to get involved in their arguments about race. LOL

[dogcows 1,030]

38 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

 

Yep.  It was a simple question of data, there was nothing racist about it.  Lefties like Gutter don't care though because ChatGPT is programmed to be in his camp.  

If we can't discuss data, we cannot address a problem.  It is irrefutable that more violent crime per capita is committed by blacks.  Is it environmental?  Genetic?  Some combo?  What can we do to improve things?  Don't know for all, because Gutter and DogCows instantly yell racist for even stating the data, I presume hoping it will just change at some point.

ETA:  I should clarify this is young black males.

Yeah but it’s not a simple question. What crimes do or do not fit the definition of “violent crime”? Who is considered one of the “blacks”? Even referring to people as “‘blacks” indicates a certain point of view about race. Is somebody 1/16th African ancestry black? How about 1/32nd?  Is the “race” self-identified? Or identified by victims? Or identified by police? The question offered no timeframe either.

And even as a side-note to your “simple” question, you had to clarify “young black males” - which, again, you don’t specify exact ages. So how could a computer possibly give a numeric answer to an ill-defined question?

Also… You know people running big companies are not going to allow their chat bots to be quoted as racists, so they program them to do what most people do: talk about something else.

[jerryskids 6,692]

5 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Yeah but it’s not a simple question. What crimes do or do not fit the definition of “violent crime”? Who is considered one of the “blacks”? Even referring to people as “‘blacks” indicates a certain point of view about race. Is somebody 1/16th African ancestry black? How about 1/32nd?  Is the “race” self-identified? Or identified by victims? Or identified by police? The question offered no timeframe either.

And even as a side-note to your “simple” question, you had to clarify “young black males” - which, again, you don’t specify exact ages. So how could a computer possibly give a numeric answer to an ill-defined question?

Also… You know people running big companies are not going to allow their chat bots to be quoted as racists, so they program them to do what most people do: talk about something else.

Sorry, but am I to interpret that you are defending ChatGPT for being woke?   

ChatGPT can do much more complex tasks than finding FBI or similar data, which defines/qualifies things like definition of violence, age ranges, definition of black, etc.

I qualified young black males because they are by far the problem.  I'd need to look up an appropriate age range, but finding that data is not rocket surgery.  A table of 4 x 50+ year old black women do not elicit caution.

Before we go further, it would help to know if you believe that young black males do NOT commit violent crime at a significantly higher rate than other demographics.  If that's the case, we have a reality problem and should probably just stop now. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,000]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

From any figures I have seen it is not 52% as you claim.

What "figures" has the DNC cult told you to say?  Or are these "any figures I have seen" really just made up?

[GutterBoy 2,898]

53 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

 

Yep.  It was a simple question of data, there was nothing racist about it.  Lefties like Gutter don't care though because ChatGPT is programmed to be in his camp.  

If we can't discuss data, we cannot address a problem.  It is irrefutable that more violent crime per capita is committed by blacks.  Is it environmental?  Genetic?  Some combo?  What can we do to improve things?  Don't know for all, because Gutter and DogCows instantly yell racist for even stating the data, I presume hoping it will just change at some point.

ETA:  I should clarify this is young black males.

I didn't call you racist for stating data, I called you racist for saying whites should be cautious around blacks.

We've talked about the causes behind crime.  Genetics is not a factor despite the geek club opinions, poverty is a huge factor, there are people that study this for a living.