White people "get the hell away from black people"

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

I didn't call you racist for stating data, I called you racist for saying whites should be cautious around blacks.

We've talked about the causes behind crime.  Genetics is not a factor despite the geek club opinions, poverty is a huge factor, there are people that study this for a living.

And yet blacks tell each other to be cautious around whites all day long, every day, 24/7 and you're nowhere to be found calling them "racist".  GTFO.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

blacks tell each other to be cautious around whites all day long, every day, 24/7

They do?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,912]

Blacks don’t commit a lot of crime. But they are the biggest victims of it. And as we have learned , it’s people of the same race that harm each other the most. Watching Gutterdumb and Dumb Cows and that pigeon dude dance around and contradict themselves is Fockin sad.  You should all slap yourself in the face.  

[GutterBoy 2,898]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Blacks don’t commit a lot of crime. But they are the biggest victims of it. And as we have learned , it’s people of the same race that harm each other the most. Watching Gutterdumb and Dumb Cows and that pigeon dude dance around and contradict themselves is Fockin sad.  You should all slap yourself in the face.  

Actually you just backed up what we've been saying.  I don't think you meant to.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,912]

5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Actually you just backed up what we've been saying.  I don't think you meant to.

Hey dikhead, I’ve been pointing out the correlation between crime and community for quite sometime.  Of course you contradicted me then. Now you, as usual, flip to the other side when it suits you. You have zero conversational skills. Probably because you never leave the house and interact with adults.  

[jerryskids 6,550]

19 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I didn't call you racist for stating data, I called you racist for saying whites should be cautious around blacks.

We've talked about the causes behind crime.  Genetics is not a factor despite the geek club opinions, poverty is a huge factor, there are people that study this for a living.

Do you have a link to your assertion that genetics is not a factor?  Since you said there are people who study it for a living I thought it would be easy to find.  But I googled "is there a genetic link to violence in black people" and got no clear answer.  I'm confident that if the answer were "no," I'd have gotten a definitive answer.  There are however several genes linked to violent crime, so that general relationship is established.

I certainly agree that poverty/environment is a large factor.  But the distribution of the causes doesn't particularly matter in the moment where I decide to be a little more cautious.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Hey dikhead, I’ve been pointing out the correlation between crime and community for quite sometime.  Of course you contradicted me then. Now you, as usual, flip to the other side when it suits you. You have zero conversational skills. Probably because you never leave the house and interact with adults.  

You've been talking about how blacks have a quick twitch to violence.  Nothing you've said here is accurate.  You make sh1t up non stop.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

8 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Do you have a link to your assertion that genetics is not a factor?  Since you said there are people who study it for a living I thought it would be easy to find.  But I googled "is there a genetic link to violence in black people" and got no clear answer.  I'm confident that if the answer were "no," I'd have gotten a definitive answer.  There are however several genes linked to violent crime, so that general relationship is established.

I certainly agree that poverty/environment is a large factor.  But the distribution of the causes doesn't particularly matter in the moment where I decide to be a little more cautious.

Sorry I don't have a link that says that black people don't have a genetic disposition to violence.  Do you have a link that says they do?

[jerryskids 6,550]

8 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Sorry I don't have a link that says that black people don't have a genetic disposition to violence.  Do you have a link that says they do?

Well then why did you say the link doesn't exist?

No, I don't have a link which says they do, which IMO implies that it hasn't been studied.  Which is sad, since knowledge is power, and with knowledge we can take appropriate action.

Or the search engines are not showing the results, much like ChatGPT chastises you for asking for data.

[seafoam1 2,798]

2 hours ago, Patented Phil said:

 

That ChatGPT response should terrify everyone.  The world’s leading AI platform has “learned” to withhold black crime statistics.

So true.

[dogcows 1,030]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

Sorry, but am I to interpret that you are defending ChatGPT for being woke?   

ChatGPT can do much more complex tasks than finding FBI or similar data, which defines/qualifies things like definition of violence, age ranges, definition of black, etc.

I qualified young black males because they are by far the problem.  I'd need to look up an appropriate age range, but finding that data is not rocket surgery.  A table of 4 x 50+ year old black women do not elicit caution.

Before we go further, it would help to know if you believe that young black males do NOT commit violent crime at a significantly higher rate than other demographics.  If that's the case, we have a reality problem and should probably just stop now. 

Oh so the computer is woke now? God, everything is “woke.” The word has no f-ing meaning anymore, so why not use other words to express your thoughts?

Pilow biter’s question didn’t mention the FBI. And the questions I posed? They are answered very incompletely by the FBI data. Read through it some time and you’ll discover that although we discuss these statistics as being definitive, they aren’t. Many crimes don’t have races of perpetrators identified, or they aren’t sure. Sometimes the victim claims it’s something, sometimes the cops say it, etc, etc. You want a computer to disregard all that uncertainty and confirm your pre-existing biases? That’s pretty weak.

Claiming a computer WOULD be on YOUR side, if only its programmers weren’t so “woke”‘ is one of the most intellectually lazy things I’ve seen in quite a while.

[BuckSwope 654]

7 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Well then why did you say the link doesn't exist?

No, I don't have a link which says they do, which IMO implies that it hasn't been studied.  Which is sad, since knowledge is power, and with knowledge we can take appropriate action.

Or the search engines are not showing the results, much like ChatGPT chastises you for asking for data.

I'm not sure if there is direct studies that have been funded - at least not directly. I'd think you could get close with stats around the world based on skin color that factor in similar incomes, IQ, etc.   Maybe not though.

[jerryskids 6,550]

1 minute ago, dogcows said:

Oh so the computer is woke now? God, everything is “woke.” The word has no f-ing meaning anymore, so why not use other words to express your thoughts?

Pilow biter’s question didn’t mention the FBI. And the questions I posed? They are answered very incompletely by the FBI data. Read through it some time and you’ll discover that although we discuss these statistics as being definitive, they aren’t. Many crimes don’t have races of perpetrators identified, or they aren’t sure. Sometimes the victim claims it’s something, sometimes the cops say it, etc, etc. You want a computer to disregard all that uncertainty and confirm your pre-existing biases? That’s pretty weak.

Claiming a computer WOULD be on YOUR side, if only its programmers weren’t so “woke”‘ is one of the most intellectually lazy things I’ve seen in quite a while.

You saw the ChatGPT response to the question I presume.  In which case I wonder why you would question it.

Also you didn't answer my question.

Otherwise good post, good effort.  

[seafoam1 2,798]

4 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Oh so the computer is woke now? God, everything is “woke.” The word has no f-ing meaning anymore, so why not use other words to express your thoughts?

Pilow biter’s question didn’t mention the FBI. And the questions I posed? They are answered very incompletely by the FBI data. Read through it some time and you’ll discover that although we discuss these statistics as being definitive, they aren’t. Many crimes don’t have races of perpetrators identified, or they aren’t sure. Sometimes the victim claims it’s something, sometimes the cops say it, etc, etc. You want a computer to disregard all that uncertainty and confirm your pre-existing biases? That’s pretty weak.

Claiming a computer WOULD be on YOUR side, if only its programmers weren’t so “woke”‘ is one of the most intellectually lazy things I’ve seen in quite a while.

wow. Liberals are so stupid.

[BuckSwope 654]

1 minute ago, dogcows said:

Oh so the computer is woke now? God, everything is “woke.” The word has no f-ing meaning anymore, so why not use other words to express your thoughts?

Pilow biter’s question didn’t mention the FBI. And the questions I posed? They are answered very incompletely by the FBI data. Read through it some time and you’ll discover that although we discuss these statistics as being definitive, they aren’t. Many crimes don’t have races of perpetrators identified, or they aren’t sure. Sometimes the victim claims it’s something, sometimes the cops say it, etc, etc. You want a computer to disregard all that uncertainty and confirm your pre-existing biases? That’s pretty weak.

Claiming a computer WOULD be on YOUR side, if only its programmers weren’t so “woke”‘ is one of the most intellectually lazy things I’ve seen in quite a while.

Well for starters, everybody should be terrified of AI.   I was hoping to be dead before this take over.   

I don't think that it says the computer is woke, but my understanding of these things is that they are just predicting machines that spit out what they calculate to be the response.   I think it's interesting that it would choose that response as well.   OR maybe the AI isn't as sophisticated as advertised and it's still getting too much input from the companies and that's where it's coming from?

[jerryskids 6,550]

2 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

I'm not sure if there is direct studies that have been funded - at least not directly. I'd think you could get close with stats around the world based on skin color that factor in similar incomes, IQ, etc.   Maybe not though.

I don't necessarily think there is anything inherent in black skin which makes a person violent.  I do wonder though, for American descendants of slaves, if for hundreds of years they were bred to maximize physical prowess and minimize intelligence, is it possible that that could be a factor?  But you can't ask that question; heck there are several people reading this thinking "OMFG you are so focking raciss$#@!" for asking a question which might help to explain a behavior we observe.  So we pretend it isn't possible.

As we move more generations away from that effect, and as we mix breeding/races, I expect the effect, if any, will eventually go away.  Perhaps that is the "plan" of the people who choose not to study it?   

[Hardcore troubadour 14,912]

It’s not genetics. It’s culture. And the black culture views violence as acceptable. 

[League Champion 1,896]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s not genetics. It’s culture. And the black culture views violence as acceptable. 

This

[League Champion 1,896]

38 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Sorry I don't have a link that says that black people don't have a genetic disposition to violence.  Do you have a link that says they do?

See what you want to see, believe what you want to believe. 

[BuckSwope 654]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

I don't necessarily think there is anything inherent in black skin which makes a person violent.  I do wonder though, for American descendants of slaves, if for hundreds of years they were bred to maximize physical prowess and minimize intelligence, is it possible that that could be a factor?  But you can't ask that question; heck there are several people reading this thinking "OMFG you are so focking raciss$#@!" for asking a question which might help to explain a behavior we observe.  So we pretend it isn't possible.

As we move more generations away from that effect, and as we mix breeding/races, I expect the effect, if any, will eventually go away.  Perhaps that is the "plan" of the people who choose not to study it?   

You had me to that last part, then it got a bit much.    I hear what you are saying, but I think it might be one of those answers people largely don't want to know for fear of how the info could be used.    Another possible reason is because all the white people in power don't want to add another possible log to the fire when we fund a study that shows that correlation to slavery.  

As to your line of questioning, I honestly don't know how it wouldn't have a negative effect via some of those things you brought up - damn near an entire group of people denied education and bred for obedience?  Yeah, that might take a toll for a bit.  It feels like we can joke around about or talk about their physical superiority, so we are already admitting that slavery had ramifications genetically. 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

What "figures" has the DNC cult told you to say?  Or are these "any figures I have seen" really just made up?

He won’t provide any content.  He’s just like Gutterpedo.  All they do in here is dispute facts and argue with people.  Weirdos get off on it.

[dogcows 1,030]

12 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I don't necessarily think there is anything inherent in black skin which makes a person violent.  I do wonder though, for American descendants of slaves, if for hundreds of years they were bred to maximize physical prowess and minimize intelligence, is it possible that that could be a factor?  But you can't ask that question; heck there are several people reading this thinking "OMFG you are so focking raciss$#@!" for asking a question which might help to explain a behavior we observe.  So we pretend it isn't possible.

As we move more generations away from that effect, and as we mix breeding/races, I expect the effect, if any, will eventually go away.  Perhaps that is the "plan" of the people who choose not to study it?   

2023 and we still have people advocating for eugenics.

[seafoam1 2,798]

Just now, dogcows said:

2023 and we still have people advocating for eugenics.

Aborting children is the in thing. 

[BuckSwope 654]

4 minutes ago, dogcows said:

2023 and we still have people advocating for eugenics.

GTFO with this.    

[squistion 1,944]

3 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

What "figures" has the DNC cult told you to say?  Or are these "any figures I have seen" really just made up?

Race and crime in the United States - Wikipedia

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828]

2 hours ago, squistion said:

Race and crime in the United States - Wikipedia

Yeah that's not going to work. You're going to need to do better than that. Please show your work.

This is the question you have to answer: What percentage of crime do Blacks commit in the United States?

You're the one disputing that. You need to show your work.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

The following crime data is from the 2021 FBI UCR system:

• Blacks committed 39.8% of all violent crimes - over 3.3 times the per capita rate of whites and hispanics combined.
• Blacks committed 56.8% of all murders - over 6.6 times the per capita rate of whites and hispanics combined.

The following crime data is from the FBI UCR system's recent report - Law Enforcement Officers Feloniously Killed - with data through 2022:

• In the last year when the race of the cop-killer was reported 100% of the time, 2018, blacks committed 40.4% of all murders of cops.
• Since the 2020 Summer of Love, white cops as a percentage of all cop killings has increased from 71.1% to 87.1% to 89.8%.  I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

Blacks are more violent than all other races.

[jerryskids 6,550]

4 hours ago, dogcows said:

2023 and we still have people advocating for eugenics.

Advocating for eugenics? Did you punch yourself in the face before posting this? Obviously you don't want to have a nuanced discussion, nananaracissnanana words.

[dogcows 1,030]

6 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Advocating for eugenics? Did you punch yourself in the face before posting this? Obviously you don't want to have a nuanced discussion, nananaracissnanana words.

Let me know when they breed the crime out of the black folk. While they’re at it, why not try to breed a master race? Maybe they could call it the Jerry-an race.

It’s a morally and mentally bankrupt argument. Let’s say slave owners were able to successfully figure out how to breed humans for certain traits. Why would they breed for violent tendencies? Slave owners would want slaves to be strong but docile. You didn’t even think your argument through.

Worse, such an argument feeds tropes such as black people being violent, or not feeling pain. Such prejudice still exists, even among doctors. It’s proven that doctors regularly underestimate the pain suffered by black people because they believe bullshit like you expressed above. Slave owners claimed black people didn’t feel as much pain as an excuse for whipping them. Why not add “natural born killers” to the list of traits you falsely assign to black people?

Also, the vast majority of black people DON’T commit violent crimes. Yet another simple fact that shows the idiocy of the genetically-engineered violent criminals argument.

[BuckSwope 654]

8 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Yeah that's not going to work. You're going to need to do better than that. Please show your work.

This is the question you have to answer: What percentage of crime do Blacks commit in the United States?

You're the one disputing that. You need to show your work.

 

7 hours ago, Patented Phil said:

The following crime data is from the 2021 FBI UCR system:

• Blacks committed 39.8% of all violent crimes - over 3.3 times the per capita rate of whites and hispanics combined.
• Blacks committed 56.8% of all murders - over 6.6 times the per capita rate of whites and hispanics combined.

The following crime data is from the FBI UCR system's recent report - Law Enforcement Officers Feloniously Killed - with data through 2022:

• In the last year when the race of the cop-killer was reported 100% of the time, 2018, blacks committed 40.4% of all murders of cops.
• Since the 2020 Summer of Love, white cops as a percentage of all cop killings has increased from 71.1% to 87.1% to 89.8%.  I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

Blacks are more violent than all other races.

 

[Sean Mooney 1,936]

1 minute ago, BuckSwope said:

 

 

You are going to have to make an audio recording of the post here because @EternalShinyAndChrome can't read apparently. 

[BuckSwope 654]

2 hours ago, dogcows said:

Let me know when they breed the crime out of the black folk. While they’re at it, why not try to breed a master race? Maybe they could call it the Jerry-an race.

It’s a morally and mentally bankrupt argument. Let’s say slave owners were able to successfully figure out how to breed humans for certain traits. Why would they breed for violent tendencies? Slave owners would want slaves to be strong but docile. You didn’t even think your argument through.

Worse, such an argument feeds tropes such as black people being violent, or not feeling pain. Such prejudice still exists, even among doctors. It’s proven that doctors regularly underestimate the pain suffered by black people because they believe bullshit like you expressed above. Slave owners claimed black people didn’t feel as much pain as an excuse for whipping them. Why not add “natural born killers” to the list of traits you falsely assign to black people?

Also, the vast majority of black people DON’T commit violent crimes. Yet another simple fact that shows the idiocy of the genetically-engineered violent criminals argument.

You bring up some good points while going overboard on the accusations of jerryskids' intent.  

As function of crime/violent crime, imo the answer lies more in the conditions and history of the community.  Imo when people say something like "blacks are more violent", they are telling me they believe there is something inherently different about them as humans that makes it so, which I highly disagree with.  Imo you put any other group through a similar historical experience, and the outcome would be similar.   We see white communities going down a similar route as jobs dry up, drugs are infused, etc.  

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 minute ago, BuckSwope said:

Imo when people say something like "blacks are more violent", they are telling me they believe there is something inherently different about them as humans that makes it so, which I highly disagree with.  

Same here.  I'm a pretty docile guy and firmly believe that everyone is entitled to their opinion, however misguided it may be, but this is something that actually angers me.  And add in the fact that people who say that blacks are inherently violent use crime stats to back up their racism, it's just sad, and I wish there weren't people like this still in the world.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,912]

Blacks are about 50 pct of the murder victims. Who is killing them? 

[dogcows 1,030]

57 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

You bring up some good points while going overboard on the accusations of jerryskids' intent.

Yea, I go over the top and make a lot of sarcastic comments… doesn’t mean I think Jerry is a Nazi. He definitely isn’t. Sorry it’s just my style of communication for better or worse. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828]

3 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

 

 

That's exactly the post by @Patented Phil that squiz was disputing which is why I asked him to show his work since he didn't believe it.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828]

3 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

You are going to have to make an audio recording of the post here because @EternalShinyAndChrome can't read apparently. 

Actually, yur the one who needs the recording.  See my post above, non-reader.  

[BuckSwope 654]

12 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

That's exactly the post by @Patented Phil that squiz was disputing which is why I asked him to show his work since he didn't believe it.

Well, you asked about crime, and he answered with violent crime/murder.    I see that happen a ton. 

[RLLD 4,143]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Blacks are about 50 pct of the murder victims. Who is killing them? 

The answer depends on who you ask, and what their political motivations are.  But the real answer is that people tend to kill within their "group" more so than outside.

It is just politically expedient to pretend there is some secret white villany against black people.....you can make money from it and also gain power, so they propogate it. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,480]

No one needs to get away from black people..... but everyone needs to get away from the white liberal.