thegeneral 2,996 Posted April 3, 2023 1 minute ago, RLLD said: Good to know. I surmise that if the system were used against you in this manner you might not feel the same way. The system used against me I know…Trump always the victim. I haven’t spent the last few years claiming people are guilty if they don’t testify, if they plead the 5th. Trump can do this all he wants during his various legal entanglements he is finding himself in, it’s just example 973 of why he’s a total chump ass loud mouth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,154 Posted April 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, thegeneral said: The system used against me I know…Trump always the victim. I haven’t spent the last few years claiming people are guilty if they don’t testify, if they plead the 5th. Trump can do this all he wants during his various legal entanglements he is finding himself in, it’s just example 973 of why he’s a total chump ass loud mouth. Trump is not always the victim, but your failure to recognize is use of that is telling. And if you presume the system will only ever be used against those with whom you have philosophical differences, and never against you, I applaud your cute naïveté but I do not share it.... I prefer to have them get him without these violations to the legal system, and if they can do it I am all for it.....I welcome a politician, any of them, being placed in jail. They are almost all corrupt pieces of filth, let them rot in jail for all I care. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,996 Posted April 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, RLLD said: Trump is not always the victim, but your failure to recognize is use of that is telling. And if you presume the system will only ever be used against those with whom you have philosophical differences, and never against you, I applaud your cute naïveté but I do not share it.... I prefer to have them get him without these violations to the legal system, and if they can do it I am all for it.....I welcome a politician, any of them, being placed in jail. They are almost all corrupt pieces of filth, let them rot in jail for all I care. Trump is always the victim, just ask him. ”The system” has always been used against politicians and it is always under review as this will be. Back to my original point. Will Trump testify? Probably not because it would be a bad idea for his dumb ass to get up there. He then should be hoisted on his own petard. He’s a chump ass loud mouth. Crooked Hillary testified before Congress for 10 hours Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,001 Posted April 3, 2023 Comparing dead Americans, including an ambassador, to,as far as we know right now, a campaign finance problem. Nice work Libtards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,387 Posted April 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Who the fock is this clown? FFS. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,996 Posted April 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: Who the fock is this clown? FFS. Hi newgirl. How are you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,996 Posted April 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Comparing dead Americans, including an ambassador, to,as far as we know right now, a campaign finance problem. Nice work Libtards. Lock him up…lock him up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,154 Posted April 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Trump is always the victim, just ask him. ”The system” has always been used against politicians and it is always under review as this will be. Back to my original point. Will Trump testify? Probably not because it would be a bad idea for his dumb ass to get up there. He then should be hoisted on his own petard. He’s a chump ass loud mouth. Crooked Hillary testified before Congress for 10 hours Not always, I mean, haven't we been told repeatedly that AA's are the "victim"? The system has never been weaponized against a politician to this extent. I think Clinton runs a distant second. Trump is absolutely a blowhard, and certainly a dooshbag and likely not someone I would like, but I do not need to like him if he does a good job, and he did a good job. Frankly, I would prefer Desantis since he is less of an arrogant pr!ck, but the lefists would certainly do the same to him. Hillary was filthy, and having met her and spent time around her team i can tell you....also not someone any one of us would like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,088 Posted April 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: Who the fock is this clown? FFS. Another unstable commie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,996 Posted April 3, 2023 Just now, Dizkneelande said: Another unstable commie Very much a capitalist Mr. Dizknicklenads! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,250 Posted April 3, 2023 1 hour ago, thegeneral said: Did you just go “I know you are but what am I” No I just stated a fact Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,276 Posted April 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: Who the fock is this clown? FFS. Seems very Newbieish to me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,996 Posted April 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Strike said: Seems very Newbieish to me. Fairly new but an old account. This place has some very unique posters. Sort of like a time warp to middle school at times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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paulinstl 296 Posted April 3, 2023 17 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: The NY Times and many other leftist outlets claim this isn’t a politically motivated prosecution. They’ll just say anything. Was your reaction similar when The Wall Street Journal published over 3000 editorials supporting the investigation of Bill Clinton during Whitewater? Republicans wrote the book on weaponizing congressional investigations. Poor memory? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,001 Posted April 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, paulinstl said: Was your reaction similar when The Wall Street Journal published over 3000 editorials supporting the investigation of Bill Clinton during Whitewater? Republicans wrote the book on weaponizing congressional investigations. Poor memory? This isn’t a Congressional investigation. This is a prosecution. I thought I made that clear when I said prosecution. HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted April 3, 2023 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: This isn’t a Congressional investigation. HTH. Whitewater started out as an investigation by the Justice Department. Same story, different party this time doing the political bullsh1t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,118 Posted April 3, 2023 1 minute ago, paulinstl said: Whitewater started out as an investigation by the Justice Department. Same story, different party this time doing the political bullsh1t. At least you're admitting what this is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted April 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Reality said: At least you're admitting what this is. As far as the hush money, yes I think it's political. If he is charged with illegal campaign finance violations, then it leaves the realm of partisan attack moves into real crime. I'd sing a different tune then. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted April 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, paulinstl said: Whitewater started out as an investigation by the Justice Department. Same story, different party this time doing the political bullsh1t. Also, both the Senate and the House had committee hearings on Whitewater. Guess HT was too busy keeping the streets safe to watch the news. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,399 Posted April 3, 2023 1 hour ago, TheNewGirl said: Who the fock is this clown? FFS. Another FBG reject man-child. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,171 Posted April 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Strike said: Did what? Commit business fraud by filing a payoff to Stormy Daniels as a legal expense. Does anyone think Trump didn’t do this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,996 Posted April 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, MDC said: Commit business fraud by filing a payoff to Stormy Daniels as a legal expense. Does anyone think Trump didn’t do this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted April 3, 2023 1 minute ago, MDC said: Commit business fraud by filing a payoff to Stormy Daniels as a legal expense. Does anyone think Trump didn’t do this? Trump's entire life has been spent gaming the system, breaking laws, not paying creditors, lying his a$$ off about anything, cheating in golf and marriage...etc... I don't know why anyone would ever consider he didn't do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,171 Posted April 3, 2023 56 minutes ago, paulinstl said: Was your reaction similar when The Wall Street Journal published over 3000 editorials supporting the investigation of Bill Clinton during Whitewater? Republicans wrote the book on weaponizing congressional investigations. Poor memory? Tardcore thinks Clinton was the best POTUS of his lifetime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,171 Posted April 3, 2023 1 minute ago, paulinstl said: Trump's entire life has been spent gaming the system, breaking laws, not paying creditors, lying his a$$ off about anything, cheating in golf and marriage...etc... I don't know why anyone would ever consider he didn't do it. The funny part is it would have been 100% legal to pay Stormy off. But Don had to file it as a legal expense. Dirtbags gonna dirtbag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted April 3, 2023 His fat ass is landing in Laguardia at this moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 362 Posted April 3, 2023 Just saw the warning that came across the Federal Government website for tomorrow: "Across this great Nation; on Tues. April 4th, 2023...the following businesses should be on a heightened sense of security; All You Can Eat Buffets and Smorgasboards; for an influx of overweight, sweating while they're eating white men dresses in camoflage fatigues, tactical vests, street hockey kneepads and elbow guards and skateboard helmets and or red "MAGA" hats. These men might give off a sense of agitation due to the indictement of Donald Trump....but the only real threat they pose is to the toilet and sewer systems after their 6500 calorie second breakfast/brunch/lunch/linner workouts. We advise to not directly engage in their political rhetoric and whining and for waiters and waitresses to just nod their heads in agreement and give them some extra whipped cream on their third piece of pie." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,276 Posted April 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, MDC said: Commit business fraud by filing a payoff to Stormy Daniels as a legal expense. Does anyone think Trump didn’t do this? I don't think they can prove he did that. Did he pay off Stormy Daniels? She got paid off but I've heard conflicting information as to whether he ever repaid his lawyer so I'll wait for the evidence on Trump's involvement in that one. I suspect he was involved but big deal. Paying someone off for an NDA is not abnormal. I don't think they're alleging it was business fraud but election fraud. That's how they make it a federal offense, theoretically. It's very shaky legal grounds and exactly the same thing John Edwards did and he was acquitted. And Edwards used election funds so his offense was actually worse. As far as classifying it as a legal expense, that's exactly what Hitlery did to cover up her paying for the Steele Dossier. Haven't seen you complaining that she hasn't been charged with a felony. Point is, everything you allege has already been done by others who weren't prosecuted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,276 Posted April 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, zsasz said: Just saw the warning that came across the Federal Government website for tomorrow: "Across this great Nation; on Tues. April 4th, 2023...the following businesses should be on a heightened sense of security; All You Can Eat Buffets and Smorgasboards; for an influx of overweight, sweating while they're eating white men dresses in camoflage fatigues, tactical vests, street hockey kneepads and elbow guards and skateboard helmets and or red "MAGA" hats. These men might give off a sense of agitation due to the indictement of Donald Trump....but the only real threat they pose is to the toilet and sewer systems after their 6500 calorie second breakfast/brunch/lunch/linner workouts. We advise to not directly engage in their political rhetoric and whining and for waiters and waitresses to just nod their heads in agreement and give them some extra whipped cream on their third piece of pie." Uh. I don't think t.j. booker is MAGA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted April 3, 2023 37 minutes ago, Horseman said: Another FBG reject man-child. How awesome would it be if Trump were held in jail without bond? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,597 Posted April 3, 2023 22 minutes ago, MDC said: The funny part is it would have been 100% legal to pay Stormy off. But Don had to file it as a legal expense. Dirtbags gonna dirtbag. 15 minutes ago, Strike said: I don't think they can prove he did that. Did he pay off Stormy Daniels? She got paid off but I've heard conflicting information as to whether he ever repaid his lawyer so I'll wait for the evidence on Trump's involvement in that one. I suspect he was involved but big deal. Paying someone off for an NDA is not abnormal. I don't think they're alleging it was business fraud but election fraud. That's how they make it a federal offense, theoretically. It's very shaky legal grounds and exactly the same thing John Edwards did and he was acquitted. And Edwards used election funds so his offense was actually worse. As far as classifying it as a legal expense, that's exactly what Hitlery did to cover up her paying for the Steele Dossier. Haven't seen you complaining that she hasn't been charged with a felony. Point is, everything you allege has already been done by others who weren't prosecuted. Yeah, my understanding is that the payoff would be OK as an election expense, so they need to prove that Trump's intention was not election-related but, I guess, general reputation-related. I don't see how they do that, if that's the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted April 3, 2023 It's all conjecture right now, but if I was a Trump insider, the fact that there are 30 criminal counts would make me pretty concerned. I know prosecutors can stack and piggy back criminal charges, but 30? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,171 Posted April 3, 2023 24 minutes ago, Strike said: I don't think they can prove he did that. Did he pay off Stormy Daniels? She got paid off but I've heard conflicting information as to whether he ever repaid his lawyer so I'll wait for the evidence on Trump's involvement in that one. I suspect he was involved but big deal. Paying someone off for an NDA is not abnormal. I don't think they're alleging it was business fraud but election fraud. That's how they make it a federal offense, theoretically. It's very shaky legal grounds and exactly the same thing John Edwards did and he was acquitted. And Edwards used election funds so his offense was actually worse. As far as classifying it as a legal expense, that's exactly what Hitlery did to cover up her paying for the Steele Dossier. Haven't seen you complaining that she hasn't been charged with a felony. Point is, everything you allege has already been done by others who weren't prosecuted. They’re alleging that Trump filed the payoff as a legal expense = business fraud. That’s a misdemeanor offense. The felony election fraud charge is pretty weak. But it is amusing to see Trump himself accused of fraud. You could throw the book at Hillary and Edwards too for all I care. Fock them both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,276 Posted April 3, 2023 1 minute ago, MDC said: They’re alleging that Trump filed the payoff as a legal expense = business fraud. That’s a misdemeanor offense. The felony election fraud charge is pretty weak. But it is amusing to see Trump himself accused of fraud. You could throw the book at Hillary and Edwards too for all I care. Fock them both. The statute of limitations on the misdemeanor expired years ago. That's why they're going for the federal felony. So, if you think that felony is weak then you should agree they don't have a case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,387 Posted April 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, paulinstl said: It's all conjecture right now, but if I was a Trump insider, the fact that there are 30 criminal counts would make me pretty concerned. I know prosecutors can stack and piggy back criminal charges, but 30? Number of charges/counts is meh. It's what they have actual proof for. I know someone who had a long long list of counts and they could only actually prove one; resulted in like 6 months probation or something. Nothing NEAR what it could have been if they had actual proof of the other charges. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,171 Posted April 3, 2023 Just now, Strike said: The statute of limitations on the misdemeanor expired years ago. That's why they're going for the federal felony. So, if you think that felony is weak then you should agree they don't have a case. I don’t think they have a case - there’s a 0% chance Trump serves any time. I guess my point is it’s not a “witch hunt” if the guy actually did it and we all know he did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,276 Posted April 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Yeah, my understanding is that the payoff would be OK as an election expense, so they need to prove that Trump's intention was not election-related but, I guess, general reputation-related. I don't see how they do that, if that's the case. I think you have it backwards. They're trying to tie it to the election so they can go for the federal election fraud offense because the statute of limitations on the misdemeanor already expired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,276 Posted April 3, 2023 Just now, MDC said: I don’t think they have a case - there’s a 0% chance Trump serves any time. I guess my point is it’s not a “witch hunt” if the guy actually did it and we all know he did. Charging someone when you know you can't win is a witch hunt. Period. Prosecutors are only supposed to file charges when they have a chance to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites